[android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-17 Thread nagamatu
Dear Android Developers,

I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.

| Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need to 
add a physical address
| to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be 
available on your app's detail page to
| all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure to 
update your information on
| your Settings page. 

| If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory to 
provide a physical address 
| where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address on 
your account, it may result in
| your apps being removed from the Play Store.

I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an 
individual developer.
This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my physical 
address.

I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply to 
messages that is written
in review at Google Play.

If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in public, I 
do not care for it.
But do you want to know your home address in public?

# I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement. 

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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Phillips
Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in your
address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.

I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home address. I
wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.

Mark
On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:

> Dear Android Developers,
>
> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>
> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need to
> add a physical address
> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
> available on your app's detail page to
> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure to
> update your information on
> | your Settings page.
>
> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory to
> provide a physical address
> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address on
> your account, it may result in
> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>
> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
> individual developer.
> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my physical
> address.
>
> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply to
> messages that is written
> in review at Google Play.
>
> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in public, I
> do not care for it.
> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>
> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Not just a blatant privacy violation.

They're putting developers' lives at risk.

Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or Western
Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where criminal
activity is relatively high.

It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price by
its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.

A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
either.

-- K


2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :

> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in your
> address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>
> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home address. I
> wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.
>
> Mark
> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:
>
>> Dear Android Developers,
>>
>> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>>
>> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need
>> to add a physical address
>> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
>> available on your app's detail page to
>> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure
>> to update your information on
>> | your Settings page.
>>
>> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory to
>> provide a physical address
>> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address on
>> your account, it may result in
>> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>>
>> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
>> individual developer.
>> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my physical
>> address.
>>
>> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply
>> to messages that is written
>> in review at Google Play.
>>
>> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in public,
>> I do not care for it.
>> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>>
>> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>>
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Dallas Singletary
It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES  and I can't find out were to
add the address I don't see a place in settings to add an address. Of
course you could use your local post offices address and just put C/O
General Delivery
On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:

> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>
> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>
> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or Western
> Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where criminal
> activity is relatively high.
>
> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price by
> its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>
> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
> either.
>
> -- K
>
>
> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :
>
>> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in your
>> address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>>
>> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home address.
>> I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.
>>
>> Mark
>> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Android Developers,
>>>
>>> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>>>
>>> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need
>>> to add a physical address
>>> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
>>> available on your app's detail page to
>>> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure
>>> to update your information on
>>> | your Settings page.
>>>
>>> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory to
>>> provide a physical address
>>> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address on
>>> your account, it may result in
>>> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>>>
>>> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
>>> individual developer.
>>> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my
>>> physical address.
>>>
>>> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply
>>> to messages that is written
>>> in review at Google Play.
>>>
>>> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in public,
>>> I do not care for it.
>>> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>>>
>>> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Dallas Singletary
Does anyone see a place to add an address in the settings of the Dev
Console? If so, can you post a screenshot I can't seem to find it. As far
as I can see, there is no field for address in my Dev console settings.
On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:

> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>
> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>
> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or Western
> Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where criminal
> activity is relatively high.
>
> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price by
> its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>
> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
> either.
>
> -- K
>
>
> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :
>
>> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in your
>> address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>>
>> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home address.
>> I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.
>>
>> Mark
>> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Android Developers,
>>>
>>> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>>>
>>> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need
>>> to add a physical address
>>> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
>>> available on your app's detail page to
>>> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure
>>> to update your information on
>>> | your Settings page.
>>>
>>> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory to
>>> provide a physical address
>>> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address on
>>> your account, it may result in
>>> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>>>
>>> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
>>> individual developer.
>>> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my
>>> physical address.
>>>
>>> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply
>>> to messages that is written
>>> in review at Google Play.
>>>
>>> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in public,
>>> I do not care for it.
>>> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>>>
>>> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>>>
>>> --
>>> nagamatu
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Phillips
The PO Box I meant has a physical address. For example, Mailboxes Etc and
many other similar places offer a real street address and suite number. No
different than any other business address. I did not mean a box at the Post
Office. MBE charges about $13/month for the smallest personal box. There
are other similar stores that cost less. And you can call to see if you
have any mail, so you don't have to go there until someone sends you a
letter bomb...;)

I totally understand that this is an onerous pain-in-the*** hoop that we
have to jump through. Just one more reason to dislike Google. However, as I
have seen over the years on this list, it is VERY hard to argue with
Google, let alone find a way to start a discussion. So, I was just trying
to provide a helpful suggestion to meet the requirements of the new rule.

Mark

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Dallas Singletary 
wrote:

> It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES  and I can't find out were to
> add the address I don't see a place in settings to add an address. Of
> course you could use your local post offices address and just put C/O
> General Delivery
> On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:
>
>> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>>
>> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>>
>> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or
>> Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where
>> criminal activity is relatively high.
>>
>> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price by
>> its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
>> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>>
>> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
>> either.
>>
>> -- K
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :
>>
>>> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in your
>>> address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>>>
>>> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home address.
>>> I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:
>>>
 Dear Android Developers,

 I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.

 | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need
 to add a physical address
 | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
 available on your app's detail page to
 | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure
 to update your information on
 | your Settings page.

 | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory
 to provide a physical address
 | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address
 on your account, it may result in
 | your apps being removed from the Play Store.

 I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
 individual developer.
 This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my
 physical address.

 I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply
 to messages that is written
 in review at Google Play.

 If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in
 public, I do not care for it.
 But do you want to know your home address in public?

 # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.

 --
 nagamatu

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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Dallas Singletary
Completely understand what your are saying Mark. Sorry I misunderstood, I
was just stating that per Google(Via Email), I could not use my PO Box I
would need to add a home/business address with a street number and name.
For me, I will just use my local post offices' address and put C/O General
Delivery and just go pick the mil up from the post office so I don't have
to expose my home address. I am a Google & Android Enthusiast but,this is
kinda an unnessery pain for Developers.

Best Regards,
Dallas
On Sep 19, 2014 6:35 PM, "Mark Phillips"  wrote:

> The PO Box I meant has a physical address. For example, Mailboxes Etc and
> many other similar places offer a real street address and suite number. No
> different than any other business address. I did not mean a box at the Post
> Office. MBE charges about $13/month for the smallest personal box. There
> are other similar stores that cost less. And you can call to see if you
> have any mail, so you don't have to go there until someone sends you a
> letter bomb...;)
>
> I totally understand that this is an onerous pain-in-the*** hoop that we
> have to jump through. Just one more reason to dislike Google. However, as I
> have seen over the years on this list, it is VERY hard to argue with
> Google, let alone find a way to start a discussion. So, I was just trying
> to provide a helpful suggestion to meet the requirements of the new rule.
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Dallas Singletary 
> wrote:
>
>> It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES  and I can't find out were to
>> add the address I don't see a place in settings to add an address. Of
>> course you could use your local post offices address and just put C/O
>> General Delivery
>> On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:
>>
>>> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>>>
>>> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>>>
>>> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or
>>> Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where
>>> criminal activity is relatively high.
>>>
>>> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price
>>> by its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
>>> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>>>
>>> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
>>> either.
>>>
>>> -- K
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :
>>>
 Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in
 your address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.

 I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home
 address. I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.

 Mark
 On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:

> Dear Android Developers,
>
> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>
> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you
> need to add a physical address
> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
> available on your app's detail page to
> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make
> sure to update your information on
> | your Settings page.
>
> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory
> to provide a physical address
> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address
> on your account, it may result in
> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>
> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
> individual developer.
> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my
> physical address.
>
> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can
> reply to messages that is written
> in review at Google Play.
>
> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in
> public, I do not care for it.
> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>
> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Phillips
Dallas,

I completely agree.

The only reason I can think they want this information is for Homeland
Security or something related. When one rents a box at MBE or the PO, one
has to show valid id like driver's license or passport or something with a
photo. If you app incites riots or takes over an airplane and holds the
passengers for ransom, then they know where you live and how to find you.
It can't be to send you a monthly check.;)

Mark

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dallas Singletary 
wrote:

> Completely understand what your are saying Mark. Sorry I misunderstood, I
> was just stating that per Google(Via Email), I could not use my PO Box I
> would need to add a home/business address with a street number and name.
> For me, I will just use my local post offices' address and put C/O General
> Delivery and just go pick the mil up from the post office so I don't have
> to expose my home address. I am a Google & Android Enthusiast but,this is
> kinda an unnessery pain for Developers.
>
> Best Regards,
> Dallas
> On Sep 19, 2014 6:35 PM, "Mark Phillips" 
> wrote:
>
>> The PO Box I meant has a physical address. For example, Mailboxes Etc and
>> many other similar places offer a real street address and suite number. No
>> different than any other business address. I did not mean a box at the Post
>> Office. MBE charges about $13/month for the smallest personal box. There
>> are other similar stores that cost less. And you can call to see if you
>> have any mail, so you don't have to go there until someone sends you a
>> letter bomb...;)
>>
>> I totally understand that this is an onerous pain-in-the*** hoop that we
>> have to jump through. Just one more reason to dislike Google. However, as I
>> have seen over the years on this list, it is VERY hard to argue with
>> Google, let alone find a way to start a discussion. So, I was just trying
>> to provide a helpful suggestion to meet the requirements of the new rule.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Dallas Singletary 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES  and I can't find out were
>>> to add the address I don't see a place in settings to add an address. Of
>>> course you could use your local post offices address and just put C/O
>>> General Delivery
>>> On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:
>>>
 Not just a blatant privacy violation.

 They're putting developers' lives at risk.

 Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or
 Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where
 criminal activity is relatively high.

 It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price
 by its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
 intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.

 A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
 either.

 -- K


 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :

> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in
> your address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>
> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home
> address. I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.
>
> Mark
> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:
>
>> Dear Android Developers,
>>
>> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>>
>> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you
>> need to add a physical address
>> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
>> available on your app's detail page to
>> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make
>> sure to update your information on
>> | your Settings page.
>>
>> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory
>> to provide a physical address
>> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address
>> on your account, it may result in
>> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>>
>> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
>> individual developer.
>> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my
>> physical address.
>>
>> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can
>> reply to messages that is written
>> in review at Google Play.
>>
>> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in
>> public, I do not care for it.
>> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>>
>> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>>
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Dallas Singletary
Mark,

You are completely correct, IMO

But, what's to stop people from using someone else's address or an
abandoned house/buildings address. So, in reality it is doing no good. Most
people have DDA and get there payments direct deposited so they have no
need to receive paper checks. On top of that, your address is already on
file in your Google Wallet Merchant Account, which is private so what is
Google up to with this move. I am an extreme Android Enthusiast (In
reality, Google as a whole Enthusiast), what you could call an extreme
Google Fanboy but, some of the stuff they been doing as of late is kinda
puzzling.

Best Regards,
Dallas
On Sep 19, 2014 7:57 PM, "Mark Phillips"  wrote:

> Dallas,
>
> I completely agree.
>
> The only reason I can think they want this information is for Homeland
> Security or something related. When one rents a box at MBE or the PO, one
> has to show valid id like driver's license or passport or something with a
> photo. If you app incites riots or takes over an airplane and holds the
> passengers for ransom, then they know where you live and how to find you.
> It can't be to send you a monthly check.;)
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dallas Singletary 
> wrote:
>
>> Completely understand what your are saying Mark. Sorry I misunderstood, I
>> was just stating that per Google(Via Email), I could not use my PO Box I
>> would need to add a home/business address with a street number and name.
>> For me, I will just use my local post offices' address and put C/O General
>> Delivery and just go pick the mil up from the post office so I don't have
>> to expose my home address. I am a Google & Android Enthusiast but,this is
>> kinda an unnessery pain for Developers.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Dallas
>> On Sep 19, 2014 6:35 PM, "Mark Phillips" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The PO Box I meant has a physical address. For example, Mailboxes Etc
>>> and many other similar places offer a real street address and suite number.
>>> No different than any other business address. I did not mean a box at the
>>> Post Office. MBE charges about $13/month for the smallest personal box.
>>> There are other similar stores that cost less. And you can call to see if
>>> you have any mail, so you don't have to go there until someone sends you a
>>> letter bomb...;)
>>>
>>> I totally understand that this is an onerous pain-in-the*** hoop that we
>>> have to jump through. Just one more reason to dislike Google. However, as I
>>> have seen over the years on this list, it is VERY hard to argue with
>>> Google, let alone find a way to start a discussion. So, I was just trying
>>> to provide a helpful suggestion to meet the requirements of the new rule.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Dallas Singletary 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES  and I can't find out were
 to add the address I don't see a place in settings to add an address. Of
 course you could use your local post offices address and just put C/O
 General Delivery
 On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:

> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>
> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>
> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or
> Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where
> criminal activity is relatively high.
>
> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price
> by its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>
> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
> either.
>
> -- K
>
>
> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :
>
>> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in
>> your address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>>
>> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home
>> address. I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.
>>
>> Mark
>> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Android Developers,
>>>
>>> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>>>
>>> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you
>>> need to add a physical address
>>> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
>>> available on your app's detail page to
>>> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make
>>> sure to update your information on
>>> | your Settings page.
>>>
>>> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's
>>> mandatory to provide a physical address
>>> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical
>>> address on your account, it may result in
>>> | your apps being removed from the Play 

Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Keith Wiley
I didn't see it either.  I think the description is that it "will appear" 
by the 30th, so presumably the settings page is going to change and have a 
physical address space in the next few weeks.  After that, I guess anyone 
can look up where I live and come by and harass me at my home, so, that'll 
be nice.  Thanks Google.

On Friday, September 19, 2014 2:38:19 PM UTC-7, DevDallas wrote:
>
> Does anyone see a place to add an address in the settings of the Dev 
> Console? If so, can you post a screenshot I can't seem to find it. As far 
> as I can see, there is no field for address in my Dev console settings. 
> On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  > wrote:
>
>> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>>
>> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>>
>> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or 
>> Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where 
>> criminal activity is relatively high.
>>
>> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price by 
>> its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the 
>> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>>
>> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them 
>> either.
>>
>> -- K
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips > >:
>>
>>> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in your 
>>> address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>>>
>>> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home address. 
>>> I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address. 
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu" > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Android Developers,

 I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.

 | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you need 
 to add a physical address
 | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be 
 available on your app's detail page to
 | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make sure 
 to update your information on
 | your Settings page. 

 | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory 
 to provide a physical address 
 | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address 
 on your account, it may result in
 | your apps being removed from the Play Store.

 I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an 
 individual developer.
 This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my 
 physical address.

 I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can reply 
 to messages that is written
 in review at Google Play.

 If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in 
 public, I do not care for it.
 But do you want to know your home address in public?

 # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement. 

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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-19 Thread Dallas Singletary
Yea, right after I posted I went back and reread it and I think you are
right. Just use your local post office box and put C/O on it. Or I just
looked it up and FedEx store office a mail box at most of there store were
you can receive mail at.
On Sep 19, 2014 9:34 PM, "Keith Wiley"  wrote:

> I didn't see it either.  I think the description is that it "will appear"
> by the 30th, so presumably the settings page is going to change and have a
> physical address space in the next few weeks.  After that, I guess anyone
> can look up where I live and come by and harass me at my home, so, that'll
> be nice.  Thanks Google.
>
> On Friday, September 19, 2014 2:38:19 PM UTC-7, DevDallas wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone see a place to add an address in the settings of the Dev
>> Console? If so, can you post a screenshot I can't seem to find it. As far
>> as I can see, there is no field for address in my Dev console settings.
>> On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev"  wrote:
>>
>>> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>>>
>>> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>>>
>>> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or
>>> Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where
>>> criminal activity is relatively high.
>>>
>>> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price
>>> by its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with the
>>> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>>>
>>> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them
>>> either.
>>>
>>> -- K
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips :
>>>
 Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in
 your address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.

 I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home
 address. I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address.

 Mark
 On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu"  wrote:

> Dear Android Developers,
>
> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>
> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you
> need to add a physical address
> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be
> available on your app's detail page to
> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make
> sure to update your information on
> | your Settings page.
>
> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's mandatory
> to provide a physical address
> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical address
> on your account, it may result in
> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>
> I do not want to disclose my home address in public, because I am an
> individual developer.
> This is privacy issue. I don't understand why Google requires my
> physical address.
>
> I disclose my e-mail address and users can contact me. Also I can
> reply to messages that is written
> in review at Google Play.
>
> If I am working for a company and office address is disclosed in
> public, I do not care for it.
> But do you want to know your home address in public?
>
> # I sent a feedback about objection for this requirement.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-09-20 Thread jtoolsdev
As one of the developers whose software was pirated a couple years back 
(wondered where all those millions of dollars went) Google provided my 
address to the FBI who sent the same letter than they emailed me and a 
pamphlet about their anti-piracy activities.  DHS should  have no problem 
getting your home address.  There is really no need to post the developer's 
physical address because Google already has it.  This is probably a 
mis-management issue (as if Google doesn't have a lot of those).

On Friday, September 19, 2014 4:58:57 PM UTC-7, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
> Dallas,
>
> I completely agree. 
>
> The only reason I can think they want this information is for Homeland 
> Security or something related. When one rents a box at MBE or the PO, one 
> has to show valid id like driver's license or passport or something with a 
> photo. If you app incites riots or takes over an airplane and holds the 
> passengers for ransom, then they know where you live and how to find you. 
> It can't be to send you a monthly check.;)
>
> Mark
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dallas Singletary  > wrote:
>
>> Completely understand what your are saying Mark. Sorry I misunderstood, I 
>> was just stating that per Google(Via Email), I could not use my PO Box I 
>> would need to add a home/business address with a street number and name. 
>> For me, I will just use my local post offices' address and put C/O General 
>> Delivery and just go pick the mil up from the post office so I don't have 
>> to expose my home address. I am a Google & Android Enthusiast but,this is 
>> kinda an unnessery pain for Developers.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Dallas 
>> On Sep 19, 2014 6:35 PM, "Mark Phillips" > > wrote:
>>
>>> The PO Box I meant has a physical address. For example, Mailboxes Etc 
>>> and many other similar places offer a real street address and suite number. 
>>> No different than any other business address. I did not mean a box at the 
>>> Post Office. MBE charges about $13/month for the smallest personal box. 
>>> There are other similar stores that cost less. And you can call to see if 
>>> you have any mail, so you don't have to go there until someone sends you a 
>>> letter bomb...;)
>>>
>>> I totally understand that this is an onerous pain-in-the*** hoop that we 
>>> have to jump through. Just one more reason to dislike Google. However, as I 
>>> have seen over the years on this list, it is VERY hard to argue with 
>>> Google, let alone find a way to start a discussion. So, I was just trying 
>>> to provide a helpful suggestion to meet the requirements of the new rule.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Dallas Singletary >> > wrote:
>>>
 It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES  and I can't find out were 
 to add the address I don't see a place in settings to add an address. Of 
 course you could use your local post offices address and just put C/O 
 General Delivery 
 On Sep 19, 2014 5:21 PM, "Kostya Vasilyev" >>> > wrote:

> Not just a blatant privacy violation.
>
> They're putting developers' lives at risk.
>
> Not every developer lives in relatively safe place like the US, or 
> Western Europe. The world is larger than that, and there are places where 
> criminal activity is relatively high.
>
> It's quite easy for someone to do the math, multiplying an app's price 
> by its install count, and then to pay a visit to the developer -- with 
> the 
> intent of extortion, racket, theft, or other criminal activity.
>
> A PO box won't work for me personally, and Google may not accept them 
> either.
>
> -- K
>
>
> 2014-09-20 1:00 GMT+04:00 Mark Phillips  >:
>
>> Rent a post office box near where you live. Then call it a suite in 
>> your address. You can pick up the mail once a week. Not a big deal.
>>
>> I completely agree about the privacy issue with using your home 
>> address. I wouldn't use my home address, nor my private email address. 
>>
>> Mark
>> On Sep 17, 2014 11:24 PM, "nagamatu" > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Android Developers,
>>>
>>> I got the following notification at Google play Developer Console.
>>>
>>> | Add a physical contact address Beginning September 30, 2014, you 
>>> need to add a physical address
>>> | to your Settings page. After you've added an address, it will be 
>>> available on your app's detail page to
>>> | all users on Google Play. If your physical address changes, make 
>>> sure to update your information on
>>> | your Settings page. 
>>>
>>> | If you have paid apps or apps with in-app purchases, it's 
>>> mandatory to provide a physical address 
>>> | where you can be contacted. If you don't provide a physical 
>>> address on your account, it may result in
>>> | your apps being removed from the Play Store.
>>>
>>> I do not want to disclose my

Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-10-06 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 05:31:46PM -0400, Dallas Singletary wrote:
> It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES

I just now saw this thread (haven't been active here for a while) and
updated my info.  It specifically says a "current valid postal address".

If I were to use my physical (home) address, it would NOT be a valid
postal address (shipping, yes, USPS, no).  So they got my valid postal
address, which is a PO box.  If they insist on my home address, they will
be limited to shipping (e.g., FedEx, UPS, etc.).

Later,
   --jim

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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-10-07 Thread jtoolsdev
I don't recall that last week it said "postal address".   It looks like 
they updated it and added more language to that section in Settings.  AND 
it mentions the address requirement that is in the "developer terms" so I 
clicked on that link and did search on address and that word is not even in 
the document which still mentions a 48 hour return period too.

On Monday, October 6, 2014 10:19:27 PM UTC-7, Spooky wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 05:31:46PM -0400, Dallas Singletary wrote: 
> > It has to be a PHYSICAL ADDRESS no PO BOXES 
>
> I just now saw this thread (haven't been active here for a while) and 
> updated my info.  It specifically says a "current valid postal address". 
>
> If I were to use my physical (home) address, it would NOT be a valid 
> postal address (shipping, yes, USPS, no).  So they got my valid postal 
> address, which is a PO box.  If they insist on my home address, they will 
> be limited to shipping (e.g., FedEx, UPS, etc.). 
>
> Later, 
>--jim 
>
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Re: [android-developers] Physical address is required for paid apps or in-app purchases

2014-10-07 Thread Jim Graham
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:47:08AM -0700, jtoolsdev wrote:
> I don't recall that last week it said "postal address".   It looks like 
> they updated it and added more language to that section in Settings.  AND 
> it mentions the address requirement that is in the "developer terms" so I 
> clicked on that link and did search on address and that word is not even in 
> the document which still mentions a 48 hour return period too.

Yeah, I tried to find the address requirements in there, too, and found
nothing even remotely related.  So I followed the requirement as stated,
for a valid postal address, since my home address does not meet that
requirement, and the post office won't start delivery unless I have a
NEW lease (I seem to recall it had to be less than either 3 weeks or
3 months old---I've lived here since 2007, so they won't set it up).
I'm constantly having to specify on online orders that my shipping
address is my home address, but my mailing address is my PO box.
Then, inevitably, some company will be stupid enough to use a shipping
method that uses the post office for final delivery, and ship it to
my home address, where they were clearly told that the post office does
not deliver to  One did this about four times before I gave up on
them completely.

Later,
   --jim

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