[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I can confirm that my sales have also dropped by at least 50% in the past 10 days or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Hi everyone The slow down is not related to the market ranking, my app has not moved market ranking. I have seen sales drop from 15-20 per day to 3-4 per day. The app actually had more publicity in december than any month previously. The obvious changes are the market app changes - has something in the new layout reduced sales dramatically - well i am sure Google know - or should be looking into it. For example moving the buy button from the bottom to top of the app screen? now it seems to stand out less, and if you scroll down reading about the app you end up at a dead end - no buy button. regards Sam On Dec 22, 1:13 pm, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: Yeseveryone in Korea who has ever written an App appears to have released it to every market in the world. I would much prefer if Google actually nominated Local Language(s) for each Market and Automatically dumped all Apps not Localized to those languages into a new 'Foreign Language' category. Apart from helping to clear out the crud, it would encourage developers like myself to stop tinkering around and do some proper Localizations for non-English Markets. On Dec 21, 8:08 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: In the Finance category where my app is, if I look at the Free apps, a lot of the top ones are Korean banking/stock apps, which no doubt come preinstalled on phones in Korea. I don't understand why the market doesn't filter by language for app names, when it does for comments. On Dec 22, 3:15 am, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the market ranking are more accurate now. My app, which has over 20,000 downloads and a 4.6 rating, should certainly be higher than an app that has only 1000-5000 downloads and a 4.0 rating. I think they previously have too much emphasis on active installs. Looks like it's fixed now, and for the better in my opinion. -nik On Dec 20, 12:33 am, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
That's a very good point about the buy button. I have mixed feelings about the new client. It kind of feelks like a lipstick on a pig. I don't think people using the new client will be able to discover apps any more than with the old one. Yes, the longer descriptions are welcome, but that's probably not tied to the client. There is still no communication on how apps get on the featured list -- some of the choices seem dubious at best. It's certainly not based on high ratinng or many download. Right now, as I am looking at it, one of the featured apps is Christmas Jukebox with 100-500 downloads and 2 ratings! On Dec 22, 10:48 pm, Sam samuel.law...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone The slow down is not related to the market ranking, my app has not moved market ranking. I have seen sales drop from 15-20 per day to 3-4 per day. The app actually had more publicity in december than any month previously. The obvious changes are the market app changes - has something in the new layout reduced sales dramatically - well i am sure Google know - or should be looking into it. For example moving the buy button from the bottom to top of the app screen? now it seems to stand out less, and if you scroll down reading about the app you end up at a dead end - no buy button. regards Sam On Dec 22, 1:13 pm, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: Yeseveryone in Korea who has ever written an App appears to have released it to every market in the world. I would much prefer if Google actually nominated Local Language(s) for each Market and Automatically dumped all Apps not Localized to those languages into a new 'Foreign Language' category. Apart from helping to clear out the crud, it would encourage developers like myself to stop tinkering around and do some proper Localizations for non-English Markets. On Dec 21, 8:08 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: In the Finance category where my app is, if I look at the Free apps, a lot of the top ones are Korean banking/stock apps, which no doubt come preinstalled on phones in Korea. I don't understand why the market doesn't filter by language for app names, when it does for comments. On Dec 22, 3:15 am, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the market ranking are more accurate now. My app, which has over 20,000 downloads and a 4.6 rating, should certainly be higher than an app that has only 1000-5000 downloads and a 4.0 rating. I think they previously have too much emphasis on active installs. Looks like it's fixed now, and for the better in my opinion. -nik On Dec 20, 12:33 am, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
My sales seem to be back to normal now. Yeah, I buy the theory about the buy button, no pun intended. Maybe now users have got used to it... On 23 December 2010 06:44, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: That's a very good point about the buy button. I have mixed feelings about the new client. It kind of feelks like a lipstick on a pig. I don't think people using the new client will be able to discover apps any more than with the old one. Yes, the longer descriptions are welcome, but that's probably not tied to the client. There is still no communication on how apps get on the featured list -- some of the choices seem dubious at best. It's certainly not based on high ratinng or many download. Right now, as I am looking at it, one of the featured apps is Christmas Jukebox with 100-500 downloads and 2 ratings! On Dec 22, 10:48 pm, Sam samuel.law...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone The slow down is not related to the market ranking, my app has not moved market ranking. I have seen sales drop from 15-20 per day to 3-4 per day. The app actually had more publicity in december than any month previously. The obvious changes are the market app changes - has something in the new layout reduced sales dramatically - well i am sure Google know - or should be looking into it. For example moving the buy button from the bottom to top of the app screen? now it seems to stand out less, and if you scroll down reading about the app you end up at a dead end - no buy button. regards Sam On Dec 22, 1:13 pm, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: Yeseveryone in Korea who has ever written an App appears to have released it to every market in the world. I would much prefer if Google actually nominated Local Language(s) for each Market and Automatically dumped all Apps not Localized to those languages into a new 'Foreign Language' category. Apart from helping to clear out the crud, it would encourage developers like myself to stop tinkering around and do some proper Localizations for non-English Markets. On Dec 21, 8:08 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: In the Finance category where my app is, if I look at the Free apps, a lot of the top ones are Korean banking/stock apps, which no doubt come preinstalled on phones in Korea. I don't understand why the market doesn't filter by language for app names, when it does for comments. On Dec 22, 3:15 am, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the market ranking are more accurate now. My app, which has over 20,000 downloads and a 4.6 rating, should certainly be higher than an app that has only 1000-5000 downloads and a 4.0 rating. I think they previously have too much emphasis on active installs. Looks like it's fixed now, and for the better in my opinion. -nik On Dec 20, 12:33 am, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I have not been selling a huge amount but 15-20 per day for the past month since I started developing.The past 2 days I have only sold 4 and 5 respectively. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I think the market ranking are more accurate now. My app, which has over 20,000 downloads and a 4.6 rating, should certainly be higher than an app that has only 1000-5000 downloads and a 4.0 rating. I think they previously have too much emphasis on active installs. Looks like it's fixed now, and for the better in my opinion. -nik On Dec 20, 12:33 am, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
In the Finance category where my app is, if I look at the Free apps, a lot of the top ones are Korean banking/stock apps, which no doubt come preinstalled on phones in Korea. I don't understand why the market doesn't filter by language for app names, when it does for comments. On Dec 22, 3:15 am, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the market ranking are more accurate now. My app, which has over 20,000 downloads and a 4.6 rating, should certainly be higher than an app that has only 1000-5000 downloads and a 4.0 rating. I think they previously have too much emphasis on active installs. Looks like it's fixed now, and for the better in my opinion. -nik On Dec 20, 12:33 am, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Yeseveryone in Korea who has ever written an App appears to have released it to every market in the world. I would much prefer if Google actually nominated Local Language(s) for each Market and Automatically dumped all Apps not Localized to those languages into a new 'Foreign Language' category. Apart from helping to clear out the crud, it would encourage developers like myself to stop tinkering around and do some proper Localizations for non-English Markets. On Dec 21, 8:08 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: In the Finance category where my app is, if I look at the Free apps, a lot of the top ones are Korean banking/stock apps, which no doubt come preinstalled on phones in Korea. I don't understand why the market doesn't filter by language for app names, when it does for comments. On Dec 22, 3:15 am, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the market ranking are more accurate now. My app, which has over 20,000 downloads and a 4.6 rating, should certainly be higher than an app that has only 1000-5000 downloads and a 4.0 rating. I think they previously have too much emphasis on active installs. Looks like it's fixed now, and for the better in my opinion. -nik On Dec 20, 12:33 am, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Interesting. My saday and rank have remained steady. I have seen a sharp drop off in cancellations since the 17th, but sales have stayed at about 90-120 per day. On Dec 19, 12:20 am, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW. My relatively popular app's sales have been roughly 20-30% lower than average over the past 30 days compared to the previous 30 days. Also, my app has jumped up a few slots since I last checked it a couple weeks ago (and the category as a whole seems fairly shaken up). I haven't updated my app in the past month. Also, my install % has been dropping (again) since the last time Google found that stat to be incorrectly dropping. It's like they patched it, but then it went back on its merry way down. Honestly, after obsessing over these things for over year, I have finally just let it be the way it is and have found more interesting things to obsess over! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
My paid app which has over 2000 downloads had never had a rating below 4 until the last couple of days and has since received two 1-star reviews. From what I can gather those 1-star ratings are from users who discovered technical issues after the 15 minute window had expired. Before, both those scenarios would have probably resulted in an uninstall-with-refund which is much preferable to a 1-star rating (for both user and dev) :( I think we can expect to see paid app ratings decrease significantly as more and more users are stuck with apps they don't want (or don't work) and were not able to refund within the new time window. I've also seen a big decrease in sales and I don't think this is related to the 1-star ratings (because I have enough other ratings so the average is not really impacted, and the 1-star ratings did not leave comments). Note - it's been over a month since I last updated the app. On 19 December 2010 16:59, JonFHancock jonfhanc...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. My saday and rank have remained steady. I have seen a sharp drop off in cancellations since the 17th, but sales have stayed at about 90-120 per day. On Dec 19, 12:20 am, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW. My relatively popular app's sales have been roughly 20-30% lower than average over the past 30 days compared to the previous 30 days. Also, my app has jumped up a few slots since I last checked it a couple weeks ago (and the category as a whole seems fairly shaken up). I haven't updated my app in the past month. Also, my install % has been dropping (again) since the last time Google found that stat to be incorrectly dropping. It's like they patched it, but then it went back on its merry way down. Honestly, after obsessing over these things for over year, I have finally just let it be the way it is and have found more interesting things to obsess over! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
From what I can gather those 1-star ratings are from users who discovered technical issues after the 15 minute window had expired. Before, both those scenarios would have probably resulted in an uninstall-with-refund which is much preferable to a 1-star rating (for both user and dev) :( Yeah, I expect to see a lot of those too, my app is just too complicated for some people and it takes 15 minutes to realize. Have to admit that it's nice to see a pristine screen of orders with no cancellations though. Well, semi-pristine anyway, there's still the 'decline X% of orders from non-US sellers' problem. I've also seen a big decrease in sales and I don't think this is related to the 1-star ratings (because I have enough other ratings so the average is not really impacted, and the 1-star ratings did not leave comments). Note - it's been over a month since I last updated the app. Get updating you sloth! There's still a bug somewhere with the active installs figure. You have to keep updating it to hold your ground (and therefore rank) in my experience. Ridiculously. Pent p.s. I have only a vague idea what a sloth is :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Yeah, I expect to see a lot of those too, my app is just too complicated for some people and it takes 15 minutes to realize. So is mine, but in my description I am offering refunds to users within 24hr still, even if it's not automatic. Have to admit that it's nice to see a pristine screen of orders with no cancellations though. Well, semi-pristine anyway, there's still the 'decline X% of orders from non-US sellers' problem. I am a US seller, and I've had the decline. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Has anyone seen resolution of this? My sales have decreased, most likely due to a dramatic drop in rankings (by about 25 slots). Sudden and dramatic would be how I would characterize the change. Seems closely correlated with the new market app. Interestingly, my active installs has been climbing during the same period. I'll be very interested to see how transparent the ranking algorithms are in some of the other markets. VCast is already rolling, and others are soon-to-be kicked off. Android Market rankings have been a roller coaster over the last year, and it's been a frustrating ride as dev. I can say one thing about these other markets for sure, they have forced Google to make changes to the market at a rate that developers and consumers never could. Whether those changes are improvements or not remains to be seen. I just LOVE competition! BTW, how many of us that saw drops in rankings are registered on the other markets? :) On Dec 17, 9:34 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I don't know about other markets, as I don't sell on them, but on appBrain, my app is #1, while it's #7 on the Android Market, down from #3. On Dec 20, 1:51 pm, keyeslabs keyes...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone seen resolution of this? My sales have decreased, most likely due to a dramatic drop in rankings (by about 25 slots). Sudden and dramatic would be how I would characterize the change. Seems closely correlated with the new market app. Interestingly, my active installs has been climbing during the same period. I'll be very interested to see how transparent the ranking algorithms are in some of the other markets. VCast is already rolling, and others are soon-to-be kicked off. Android Market rankings have been a roller coaster over the last year, and it's been a frustrating ride as dev. I can say one thing about these other markets for sure, they have forced Google to make changes to the market at a rate that developers and consumers never could. Whether those changes are improvements or not remains to be seen. I just LOVE competition! BTW, how many of us that saw drops in rankings are registered on the other markets? :) On Dec 17, 9:34 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
My app is #1 in its category (Highest rated paid apps) in AppBrain and #76 in the equivalent category on the Android Market website. Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( On 20 December 2010 14:07, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about other markets, as I don't sell on them, but on appBrain, my app is #1, while it's #7 on the Android Market, down from #3. On Dec 20, 1:51 pm, keyeslabs keyes...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone seen resolution of this? My sales have decreased, most likely due to a dramatic drop in rankings (by about 25 slots). Sudden and dramatic would be how I would characterize the change. Seems closely correlated with the new market app. Interestingly, my active installs has been climbing during the same period. I'll be very interested to see how transparent the ranking algorithms are in some of the other markets. VCast is already rolling, and others are soon-to-be kicked off. Android Market rankings have been a roller coaster over the last year, and it's been a frustrating ride as dev. I can say one thing about these other markets for sure, they have forced Google to make changes to the market at a rate that developers and consumers never could. Whether those changes are improvements or not remains to be seen. I just LOVE competition! BTW, how many of us that saw drops in rankings are registered on the other markets? :) On Dec 17, 9:34 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Indeed I am painfully aware of this and have written in countless forums about it over the past couple of years! Country I am living in dictates which Country sim card I use in order to have mobile broadband without paying huge roaming costs. Switching sim cards requires me to pop down to some nearby cafe to make use of their wifi and then access the Market for paid apps (or free apps unavailable in obscure countries - eBay, YouTube?). How I love the sim card rule :( On 20 December 2010 14:24, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 20, 2:16 pm, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: Right now, I'm unable to check its ranking on the Android Market app thanks to being in a non-paid app country :( You know that it's the SIM card that determines if you can see the paid apps, not your physical location. I have to do this as I live in Singapore and I cannot see some apps, such as e-Bay (why, why?) and if I want to update it, I need to swap in my (non-working) T-Mobile USA SIM card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Looks like algorithm used to determine position in top list had been reworked as there is a lot of changes in top through last few days -- Bart Janusz On Dec 18, 6:29 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? Was thinking of making a similar post, though not about sales. Seem fine for me. However, I've dropped nearly 20 spots in my paid app category quite literally overnight on both Nexus 2.2 and G1 1.6. Not trying to derail the thread, but seems like it could be related. I'm curious if others who monitor their rank (c'mon, you know you do it) have noticed a huge change in rankings as well? Maybe has something to do with the new Widget category bumping those apps up? (I don't have a widget yet). --- -- TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I thought it was only me. I've noticed slow down in sales in the last couple of weeks too, about 50% drop. I'm a bit worried. On Dec 18, 11:02 am, a1 arco...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like algorithm used to determine position in top list had been reworked as there is a lot of changes in top through last few days -- Bart Janusz On Dec 18, 6:29 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? Was thinking of making a similar post, though not about sales. Seem fine for me. However, I've dropped nearly 20 spots in my paid app category quite literally overnight on both Nexus 2.2 and G1 1.6. Not trying to derail the thread, but seems like it could be related. I'm curious if others who monitor their rank (c'mon, you know you do it) have noticed a huge change in rankings as well? Maybe has something to do with the new Widget category bumping those apps up? (I don't have a widget yet). --- -- TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Yah I've noticed a slowdown... not as much as 50% but maybe by 1/4. Of course I only have a few weeks of data to go on. So far, I seem to spike when i release an update, but like I said, I don't have enough data yet to tell. - Brill Pappin On Dec 17, 9:34 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Same large drop in sales here too. Also, similar big, overnight drop in ranking for my top-rated app. A few months ago it had been #1 in the Health category for many months. Then was in the top 3 or 4 for several months, then a couple of days ago plummeted to 13th. :-( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
From the other comments it seems it's not related to price at all... but I thought I'd offer this anyway as it might help you make more money :). For items under $10, $7.99 and $8.99 are kind of a no-man's land. They aren't good price points. In the minds of the average consumer, there are 4 price points at $10 and under, and they are close to $1, under $5, over $5, and $10. So.. in the range you are talking about ($7.99 and $8.99), the better price points are $6.99 (gets the just over $5 price point in almost every consumers mind) and if you are going to sell it at $8.99, you may as well make it $9.99 because the average consumer doesn't see any difference between $8.99 and $9.99 especially when there is no tax involved, because $9.99 without tax is under $10 and so is $8.99. So, if you're going to sell it at $8.99, you might as well make the extra dollar and sell it at $9.99. Of course, it's always more complicated than that simple explanation, and you do have to take into consideration what similar apps are selling for... but in this price range (under $10)... a higher price implies higher quality in the consumer's mind, so don't be scared to price your app higher than your competitors. Probably you should experiment with both $6.99 and $9.99 to determine what the better price point is (which do you make more money at ?). Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurb http://bgies.comhttp://nocrappyapps.com http://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.com http://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 10:08 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: You could be right, and thanks for the insight. But my sales were fine after I raised the price for a few days. My nearest competitor is more than me, btw. On Dec 18, 11:36 am, Brad Giesrbg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not logical, but from reading a lot of marketing stuff over the last 40 years, I think I can tell you what the problem is... Most people kind of round stuff off in their minds... and normally to a multiple of $5. SO.. $8.99 rounds to $10... while $7.99 rounds to $5, so physiologically speaking you have doubled your price. ;). Just a rough stab at telling you why is that most people ignore the .99 part of a price (unless it is very close to a multiple of $5, so $9.99 is $10, $4.99 is $5 etc.)... so $8.99 becomes $8 and rounds to $10, while $7.99 becomes $7 and rounds to $5. Can't guarantee it... and the only way you will know for sure is to change the price back to $7.99 and see if sales come back to normal. I can tell you that price points are incredibly important in marketing, and even more important in the low range of prices. Hopefully, it's a market glitch... but if it doesn't solve itself... try putting the price back. Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 6:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I've seen a 50% drop in sales in the same timeframe. Not that my sales were huge before but I had a 5 day period with no sales at all and since then it's been a trickle. I've got promo graphics, feature graphics, the works. -BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Hi Brad, good information there. Thanks. Raised the price, see what happens. On Dec 19, 2:45 am, Brad Gies rbg...@gmail.com wrote: From the other comments it seems it's not related to price at all... but I thought I'd offer this anyway as it might help you make more money :). For items under $10, $7.99 and $8.99 are kind of a no-man's land. They aren't good price points. In the minds of the average consumer, there are 4 price points at $10 and under, and they are close to $1, under $5, over $5, and $10. So.. in the range you are talking about ($7.99 and $8.99), the better price points are $6.99 (gets the just over $5 price point in almost every consumers mind) and if you are going to sell it at $8.99, you may as well make it $9.99 because the average consumer doesn't see any difference between $8.99 and $9.99 especially when there is no tax involved, because $9.99 without tax is under $10 and so is $8.99. So, if you're going to sell it at $8.99, you might as well make the extra dollar and sell it at $9.99. Of course, it's always more complicated than that simple explanation, and you do have to take into consideration what similar apps are selling for... but in this price range (under $10)... a higher price implies higher quality in the consumer's mind, so don't be scared to price your app higher than your competitors. Probably you should experiment with both $6.99 and $9.99 to determine what the better price point is (which do you make more money at ?). Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 10:08 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: You could be right, and thanks for the insight. But my sales were fine after I raised the price for a few days. My nearest competitor is more than me, btw. On Dec 18, 11:36 am, Brad Giesrbg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not logical, but from reading a lot of marketing stuff over the last 40 years, I think I can tell you what the problem is... Most people kind of round stuff off in their minds... and normally to a multiple of $5. SO.. $8.99 rounds to $10... while $7.99 rounds to $5, so physiologically speaking you have doubled your price. ;). Just a rough stab at telling you why is that most people ignore the .99 part of a price (unless it is very close to a multiple of $5, so $9.99 is $10, $4.99 is $5 etc.)... so $8.99 becomes $8 and rounds to $10, while $7.99 becomes $7 and rounds to $5. Can't guarantee it... and the only way you will know for sure is to change the price back to $7.99 and see if sales come back to normal. I can tell you that price points are incredibly important in marketing, and even more important in the low range of prices. Hopefully, it's a market glitch... but if it doesn't solve itself... try putting the price back. Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 6:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Another thing I've noticed, is that my purchases from the UK have stopped in the last 5 days. Before that I've average 1 1/2 sales a day from the UK in the prior 30 days, representing about 6% of my total sales, but there has been 0 since Dec 14. On Dec 19, 8:58 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brad, good information there. Thanks. Raised the price, see what happens. On Dec 19, 2:45 am, Brad Gies rbg...@gmail.com wrote: From the other comments it seems it's not related to price at all... but I thought I'd offer this anyway as it might help you make more money :). For items under $10, $7.99 and $8.99 are kind of a no-man's land. They aren't good price points. In the minds of the average consumer, there are 4 price points at $10 and under, and they are close to $1, under $5, over $5, and $10. So.. in the range you are talking about ($7.99 and $8.99), the better price points are $6.99 (gets the just over $5 price point in almost every consumers mind) and if you are going to sell it at $8.99, you may as well make it $9.99 because the average consumer doesn't see any difference between $8.99 and $9.99 especially when there is no tax involved, because $9.99 without tax is under $10 and so is $8.99. So, if you're going to sell it at $8.99, you might as well make the extra dollar and sell it at $9.99. Of course, it's always more complicated than that simple explanation, and you do have to take into consideration what similar apps are selling for... but in this price range (under $10)... a higher price implies higher quality in the consumer's mind, so don't be scared to price your app higher than your competitors. Probably you should experiment with both $6.99 and $9.99 to determine what the better price point is (which do you make more money at ?). Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 10:08 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: You could be right, and thanks for the insight. But my sales were fine after I raised the price for a few days. My nearest competitor is more than me, btw. On Dec 18, 11:36 am, Brad Giesrbg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not logical, but from reading a lot of marketing stuff over the last 40 years, I think I can tell you what the problem is... Most people kind of round stuff off in their minds... and normally to a multiple of $5. SO.. $8.99 rounds to $10... while $7.99 rounds to $5, so physiologically speaking you have doubled your price. ;). Just a rough stab at telling you why is that most people ignore the .99 part of a price (unless it is very close to a multiple of $5, so $9.99 is $10, $4.99 is $5 etc.)... so $8.99 becomes $8 and rounds to $10, while $7.99 becomes $7 and rounds to $5. Can't guarantee it... and the only way you will know for sure is to change the price back to $7.99 and see if sales come back to normal. I can tell you that price points are incredibly important in marketing, and even more important in the low range of prices. Hopefully, it's a market glitch... but if it doesn't solve itself... try putting the price back. Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 6:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
FWIW. My relatively popular app's sales have been roughly 20-30% lower than average over the past 30 days compared to the previous 30 days. Also, my app has jumped up a few slots since I last checked it a couple weeks ago (and the category as a whole seems fairly shaken up). I haven't updated my app in the past month. Also, my install % has been dropping (again) since the last time Google found that stat to be incorrectly dropping. It's like they patched it, but then it went back on its merry way down. Honestly, after obsessing over these things for over year, I have finally just let it be the way it is and have found more interesting things to obsess over! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
I have seen a drastic slowdown in sales over the past few days as well, on the order of 50%. Basically back to what they were in Nov 2009. I didn't change the price or the app. Yesterday, I added a promotional graphic, and did an update to ad support for the Nook Color and the Nexus S thinking that might help. No luck, today is just as bad. I was thinking that maybe people are busy holiday shopping, but looking at last year's sales over the same period did not show a slump. Kind of a coincidence that it seems to correspond to a major market overhaul. I can still see my apps on all my various devices, so I can rule that out as a potential problem. On Dec 17, 7:36 pm, Brad Gies rbg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not logical, but from reading a lot of marketing stuff over the last 40 years, I think I can tell you what the problem is... Most people kind of round stuff off in their minds... and normally to a multiple of $5. SO.. $8.99 rounds to $10... while $7.99 rounds to $5, so physiologically speaking you have doubled your price. ;). Just a rough stab at telling you why is that most people ignore the .99 part of a price (unless it is very close to a multiple of $5, so $9.99 is $10, $4.99 is $5 etc.)... so $8.99 becomes $8 and rounds to $10, while $7.99 becomes $7 and rounds to $5. Can't guarantee it... and the only way you will know for sure is to change the price back to $7.99 and see if sales come back to normal. I can tell you that price points are incredibly important in marketing, and even more important in the low range of prices. Hopefully, it's a market glitch... but if it doesn't solve itself... try putting the price back. Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 6:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
You could be right, and thanks for the insight. But my sales were fine after I raised the price for a few days. My nearest competitor is more than me, btw. On Dec 18, 11:36 am, Brad Gies rbg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not logical, but from reading a lot of marketing stuff over the last 40 years, I think I can tell you what the problem is... Most people kind of round stuff off in their minds... and normally to a multiple of $5. SO.. $8.99 rounds to $10... while $7.99 rounds to $5, so physiologically speaking you have doubled your price. ;). Just a rough stab at telling you why is that most people ignore the .99 part of a price (unless it is very close to a multiple of $5, so $9.99 is $10, $4.99 is $5 etc.)... so $8.99 becomes $8 and rounds to $10, while $7.99 becomes $7 and rounds to $5. Can't guarantee it... and the only way you will know for sure is to change the price back to $7.99 and see if sales come back to normal. I can tell you that price points are incredibly important in marketing, and even more important in the low range of prices. Hopefully, it's a market glitch... but if it doesn't solve itself... try putting the price back. Sincerely, Brad Gies --- Bistro Bot - Bistro Blurbhttp://bgies.com http://nocrappyapps.comhttp://bistroblurb.com http://forcethetruth.comhttp://ihottonight.com --- Everything in moderation, including abstinence (paraphrased) Every person is born with a brain... Those who use it well are the successful happy ones - Brad Gies Adversity can make or break you... It's your choice... Choose wisely - Brad Gies Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed. It is the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead On 17/12/2010 6:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari wrote: My sales have started to decline about 10 days ago and now they are at about 50% compared to then. Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? I am at a loss as I cannot see a reason for this -- my ratings are as high as ever, no 1-stars to scare people off, no hot competitor app. I did increase the price by $1 about 14 days ago, but that actually lead to more sales for a few days after, so I don't know. The $1 increase is from $7.99 to $8.99, so percentage-wise it's not that much. As I am typing, I'm going on a 5 hour without a sale lull, with only a couple of Declined authorizations. I've evem seen an 11-hour lull also which has never happened since day one. I mean it's possible that my app has run its course and most people who wanted it had bought it or a competitor's, but that's pretty hard to believe. Anybody with any insights?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Anybody seen a slowdown in sales?
Yes, I've dropped from 3 to 4 and then today to 7 in my category (Finance). Which is understandable, as my sales have essentially been halved. My free app downloads seem to be fine, it's just the conversion from free to paid went from about 12.5% to about 7%. The one thing I noticed is that when I search for checkbook, only my free app shows up and the paid one is MIA, even though the descriptions are all but identical and they both contain that word. On Dec 18, 1:29 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen anything like this with their own apps? Was thinking of making a similar post, though not about sales. Seem fine for me. However, I've dropped nearly 20 spots in my paid app category quite literally overnight on both Nexus 2.2 and G1 1.6. Not trying to derail the thread, but seems like it could be related. I'm curious if others who monitor their rank (c'mon, you know you do it) have noticed a huge change in rankings as well? Maybe has something to do with the new Widget category bumping those apps up? (I don't have a widget yet). ----- TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
