Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-08 Thread chris harper
Agreed Don.

I made it clear the I am  a single individual who just has an idea for an
app that I would like to develop and I don't have lots of money.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:52 PM, DonFrench  wrote:

> I would recommend against telling them that you have tons of money
>
>
> On Mar 8, 9:59 am, chris harper  wrote:
> > Thank monmonja
> >
> > I found and contacted a company that holds a patent on a feature that my
> app
> > centers around.
> >
> > They are going to work with me and "review" my app before I launch it to
> > discuses license agreements. I let them know I am an individual who does
> > have tons of money to spend on licenses so I will be interested to see
> what
> > they propose.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, monmonja 
> wrote:
> > > First of all thanks for using my example :) On the patent thing, if
> > > you have a good idea similar to something that is patented, i suggest
> > > you to put your app on other country besides US or the list of
> > > countries that have the patent (you can google search them). One
> > > reason is that the patent system in US is kind of a mess right now
> > > (sorry guys its just is). Most patents in US are not global patents so
> > > in a sea of 140+ countries, there is a good chance your app would be
> > > big somewhere else. On the localization part, there are a lot of
> > > willing individual on that certain country that could speak english
> > > and is willing to translate the app for you. Btw im not a US hater but
> > > i hate the patent system there, it kills further innovations.
> >
> > > On Mar 3, 12:51 am, chris harper  wrote:
> > > > I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see
> something
> > > > that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In
> my
> > > > case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that
> > > someone
> > > > holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any
> image
> > > that
> > > > represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that
> represents a
> > > > body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their
> JibJab's
> > > web
> > > > site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).
> >
> > > >http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal
> >
> > > > Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a
> body).
> >
> > > > I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I
> was
> > > > developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I
> wrote
> > > and
> > > > if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from
> them
> > > then
> > > > I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.
> >
> > > > For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on
> any
> > > > major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents
> out
> > > > there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some
> BS
> > > > company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and
> > > desist
> > > > order like K05tik got.
> >
> > > > There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
> > > > developing and coding something just to find out that they have to
> stop
> > > > publishing it.
> >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Chris
> >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:
> > > > > In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> > > > > time
> > > > > ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> > > > > just thrown to jail  )
> > > > > in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> > > > > ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
> >
> > > > > Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> > > > > example in germany,
> > > > > EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> > > > > every new
> > > > > PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> > > > > so please support your
> > > > > local pirate party.
> >
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-08 Thread chris harper
Thank you for the advice Yahel.

I gut feeling is they will probably want a % of proceeds from my app. That
is what I am expecting.

I figured I didn't have any other choice. I didn't want to put my app out
there and then get hit with a high dollar settlement fee for patent
infringement.

The only other thought I had was along the lines of what monmonja said and
register my app in like Russia or something but I don't know how patent laws
work with international or if that would even work because because I live in
Colorado. lol

So I really have only one choice which is to work with them and hope they
don't ask to much for license fees.

Patent rights do make it hard to develop new ideas.

:-(

-Chris


On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Yahel  wrote:

> Hey Chris,
>
> Smart move, but depending on the time spent and the work involved you
> should ask them for the minimum fee they'll ask you.
>
> Would be too bad to create an app around there patent, give them nice
> implementation ideas, and have them just tell you they won't let you
> because they are doing the same, or asks for $400 000
>
> Yahel
>
> On 8 mar, 18:59, chris harper  wrote:
> > Thank monmonja
> >
> > I found and contacted a company that holds a patent on a feature that my
> app
> > centers around.
> >
> > They are going to work with me and "review" my app before I launch it to
> > discuses license agreements. I let them know I am an individual who does
> > have tons of money to spend on licenses so I will be interested to see
> what
> > they propose.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, monmonja 
> wrote:
> > > First of all thanks for using my example :) On the patent thing, if
> > > you have a good idea similar to something that is patented, i suggest
> > > you to put your app on other country besides US or the list of
> > > countries that have the patent (you can google search them). One
> > > reason is that the patent system in US is kind of a mess right now
> > > (sorry guys its just is). Most patents in US are not global patents so
> > > in a sea of 140+ countries, there is a good chance your app would be
> > > big somewhere else. On the localization part, there are a lot of
> > > willing individual on that certain country that could speak english
> > > and is willing to translate the app for you. Btw im not a US hater but
> > > i hate the patent system there, it kills further innovations.
> >
> > > On Mar 3, 12:51 am, chris harper  wrote:
> > > > I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see
> something
> > > > that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In
> my
> > > > case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that
> > > someone
> > > > holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any
> image
> > > that
> > > > represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that
> represents a
> > > > body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their
> JibJab's
> > > web
> > > > site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).
> >
> > > >http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal
> >
> > > > Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a
> body).
> >
> > > > I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I
> was
> > > > developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I
> wrote
> > > and
> > > > if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from
> them
> > > then
> > > > I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.
> >
> > > > For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on
> any
> > > > major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents
> out
> > > > there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some
> BS
> > > > company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and
> > > desist
> > > > order like K05tik got.
> >
> > > > There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
> > > > developing and coding something just to find out that they have to
> stop
> > > > publishing it.
> >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Chris
> >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:
> > > > > In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> > > > > time
> > > > > ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> > > > > just thrown to jail  )
> > > > > in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> > > > > ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
> >
> > > > > Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> > > > > example in germany,
> > > > > EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> > > > > every new
> > > > > PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> > > > > so please support your
> > > > > local pirate party.
> >
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[android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-08 Thread DonFrench
I would recommend against telling them that you have tons of money


On Mar 8, 9:59 am, chris harper  wrote:
> Thank monmonja
>
> I found and contacted a company that holds a patent on a feature that my app
> centers around.
>
> They are going to work with me and "review" my app before I launch it to
> discuses license agreements. I let them know I am an individual who does
> have tons of money to spend on licenses so I will be interested to see what
> they propose.
>
> -Chris
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, monmonja  wrote:
> > First of all thanks for using my example :) On the patent thing, if
> > you have a good idea similar to something that is patented, i suggest
> > you to put your app on other country besides US or the list of
> > countries that have the patent (you can google search them). One
> > reason is that the patent system in US is kind of a mess right now
> > (sorry guys its just is). Most patents in US are not global patents so
> > in a sea of 140+ countries, there is a good chance your app would be
> > big somewhere else. On the localization part, there are a lot of
> > willing individual on that certain country that could speak english
> > and is willing to translate the app for you. Btw im not a US hater but
> > i hate the patent system there, it kills further innovations.
>
> > On Mar 3, 12:51 am, chris harper  wrote:
> > > I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see something
> > > that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In my
> > > case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that
> > someone
> > > holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any image
> > that
> > > represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that represents a
> > > body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their JibJab's
> > web
> > > site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).
>
> > >http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal
>
> > > Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a body).
>
> > > I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I was
> > > developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I wrote
> > and
> > > if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from them
> > then
> > > I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.
>
> > > For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on any
> > > major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents out
> > > there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some BS
> > > company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and
> > desist
> > > order like K05tik got.
>
> > > There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
> > > developing and coding something just to find out that they have to stop
> > > publishing it.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > -Chris
>
> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:
> > > > In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> > > > time
> > > > ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> > > > just thrown to jail  )
> > > > in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> > > > ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
>
> > > > Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> > > > example in germany,
> > > > EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> > > > every new
> > > > PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> > > > so please support your
> > > > local pirate party.
>
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[android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-08 Thread Yahel
Hey Chris,

Smart move, but depending on the time spent and the work involved you
should ask them for the minimum fee they'll ask you.

Would be too bad to create an app around there patent, give them nice
implementation ideas, and have them just tell you they won't let you
because they are doing the same, or asks for $400 000

Yahel

On 8 mar, 18:59, chris harper  wrote:
> Thank monmonja
>
> I found and contacted a company that holds a patent on a feature that my app
> centers around.
>
> They are going to work with me and "review" my app before I launch it to
> discuses license agreements. I let them know I am an individual who does
> have tons of money to spend on licenses so I will be interested to see what
> they propose.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, monmonja  wrote:
> > First of all thanks for using my example :) On the patent thing, if
> > you have a good idea similar to something that is patented, i suggest
> > you to put your app on other country besides US or the list of
> > countries that have the patent (you can google search them). One
> > reason is that the patent system in US is kind of a mess right now
> > (sorry guys its just is). Most patents in US are not global patents so
> > in a sea of 140+ countries, there is a good chance your app would be
> > big somewhere else. On the localization part, there are a lot of
> > willing individual on that certain country that could speak english
> > and is willing to translate the app for you. Btw im not a US hater but
> > i hate the patent system there, it kills further innovations.
>
> > On Mar 3, 12:51 am, chris harper  wrote:
> > > I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see something
> > > that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In my
> > > case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that
> > someone
> > > holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any image
> > that
> > > represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that represents a
> > > body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their JibJab's
> > web
> > > site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).
>
> > >http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal
>
> > > Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a body).
>
> > > I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I was
> > > developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I wrote
> > and
> > > if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from them
> > then
> > > I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.
>
> > > For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on any
> > > major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents out
> > > there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some BS
> > > company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and
> > desist
> > > order like K05tik got.
>
> > > There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
> > > developing and coding something just to find out that they have to stop
> > > publishing it.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > -Chris
>
> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:
> > > > In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> > > > time
> > > > ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> > > > just thrown to jail  )
> > > > in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> > > > ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
>
> > > > Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> > > > example in germany,
> > > > EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> > > > every new
> > > > PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> > > > so please support your
> > > > local pirate party.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-08 Thread chris harper
Thank monmonja

I found and contacted a company that holds a patent on a feature that my app
centers around.

They are going to work with me and "review" my app before I launch it to
discuses license agreements. I let them know I am an individual who does
have tons of money to spend on licenses so I will be interested to see what
they propose.

-Chris

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, monmonja  wrote:

> First of all thanks for using my example :) On the patent thing, if
> you have a good idea similar to something that is patented, i suggest
> you to put your app on other country besides US or the list of
> countries that have the patent (you can google search them). One
> reason is that the patent system in US is kind of a mess right now
> (sorry guys its just is). Most patents in US are not global patents so
> in a sea of 140+ countries, there is a good chance your app would be
> big somewhere else. On the localization part, there are a lot of
> willing individual on that certain country that could speak english
> and is willing to translate the app for you. Btw im not a US hater but
> i hate the patent system there, it kills further innovations.
>
> On Mar 3, 12:51 am, chris harper  wrote:
> > I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see something
> > that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In my
> > case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that
> someone
> > holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any image
> that
> > represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that represents a
> > body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their JibJab's
> web
> > site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).
> >
> > http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal
> >
> > Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a body).
> >
> > I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I was
> > developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I wrote
> and
> > if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from them
> then
> > I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.
> >
> > For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on any
> > major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents out
> > there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some BS
> > company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and
> desist
> > order like K05tik got.
> >
> > There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
> > developing and coding something just to find out that they have to stop
> > publishing it.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:
> > > In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> > > time
> > > ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> > > just thrown to jail  )
> > > in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> > > ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
> >
> > > Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> > > example in germany,
> > > EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> > > every new
> > > PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> > > so please support your
> > > local pirate party.
> >
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[android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-08 Thread monmonja
First of all thanks for using my example :) On the patent thing, if
you have a good idea similar to something that is patented, i suggest
you to put your app on other country besides US or the list of
countries that have the patent (you can google search them). One
reason is that the patent system in US is kind of a mess right now
(sorry guys its just is). Most patents in US are not global patents so
in a sea of 140+ countries, there is a good chance your app would be
big somewhere else. On the localization part, there are a lot of
willing individual on that certain country that could speak english
and is willing to translate the app for you. Btw im not a US hater but
i hate the patent system there, it kills further innovations.

On Mar 3, 12:51 am, chris harper  wrote:
> I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see something
> that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In my
> case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that someone
> holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any image that
> represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that represents a
> body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their JibJab's web
> site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).
>
> http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal
>
> Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a body).
>
> I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I was
> developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I wrote and
> if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from them then
> I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.
>
> For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on any
> major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents out
> there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some BS
> company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and desist
> order like K05tik got.
>
> There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
> developing and coding something just to find out that they have to stop
> publishing it.
>
> Thanks
> -Chris
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:
> > In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> > time
> > ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> > just thrown to jail  )
> > in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> > ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
>
> > Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> > example in germany,
> > EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> > every new
> > PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> > so please support your
> > local pirate party.
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-02 Thread chris harper
I agree it all depends on if your app makes money. If they see something
that makes money they will come after you if you violate a Patent. In my
case I did my homework and found out now before my app goes out that someone
holds a patent on any case when someone takes any graphic of any image that
represents a head and places it on graphic of anything that represents a
body. Like JibJab does. If you look at the legal part of their JibJab's web
site they have to pay pixfusion a license fee (at the very bottom).

http://sendables.jibjab.com/about/legal

Which is what my app is going to do (take a head and place it on a body).

I wrote pixfusion two emails asking about licenses fee's and what I was
developing but I never heard back. So I'll keep the emails that I wrote and
if (by chance) my app does get a little popular and I do hear from them then
I will have proof that I tried contacting them and I was proactive.

For any developers out there reading this do a little "googling" on any
major features of your app and just aware that there are MANY patents out
there. Where if your app takes off you could get an email from some BS
company saying you have to pay them licenses fees and/or a cease and desist
order like K05tik got.

There is nothing worse for a developer then spending hours of time
developing and coding something just to find out that they have to stop
publishing it.

Thanks
-Chris

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:15 AM, ko5tik  wrote:

> In today society everybody  can sue you for almost anything at any
> time
> ( we live in kind of free countries, in unfree countrys you will be
> just thrown to jail  )
> in case of tetris applet they claimed copyright on 4-block tiles ;)
> ( which were used in a books back in 70ies )
>
> Software patents do suck,  as well as actual copyright laws  ( for
> example in germany,
> EUR 0.06 per blank CD goes straight to GEMA , as well as EUR 30 on
> every new
> PC sold, and they still claim that you download music illegally)  -
> so please support your
> local pirate party.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-03-01 Thread chris harper
Thank you for responding ko5tik.

I think you are right. The people who open these patents won't care unless
your app is doing well because they just want the money.

I disagree somewhat with Dmitri.
I think developers need to be aware that many features that they might put
in their application can have imposing law suits that might come against
them for some "Patent infringement". That is something they need to be aware
of. Maybe a separate thread or something because I have done some research
on the web and there are MANY out there and a lot of them are really stupid.
Like holding a patent on caller lookup?! That can effect SO many
applications.
So as a developer I am going to try (emphasis on try) and develop my
application so it's robust enough that I can add/remove features if I need
to.

1th hit and you had to cease and desist?

That sucks. Truly. Sorry to hear that.

-Chris

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:35 AM, ko5tik  wrote:

> It depends heavily on laws of your place of residence
> and importance of your application.  Most probably nobody will
> ever notice.   However, I managed to get attention of lawyers
> representing
> nice delaware company holding right of tetris because of my applet
> game
> (used to be 1th hit in google )  - but no lawsuit,  just cease and
> desist letter.
>
> On Feb 27, 10:11 pm, chris harper  wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I read this article and it concerns me. It's about patent
> > infringements for the caller ID within android applications.
> >
> > http://techdirt.com/articles/20100224/0244468285.shtml
> >
> > I am writing an application for android which uses the
> > PhoneStateListener and following the example outlined in this article:
> http://almondmendoza.com/2009/01/30/getting-the-contact-info-when-on-...
> >
> > Have you guys at Google experienced developers being sued for using
> > this feature (besides the one in the article of course).
> >
> > Should I be concerned here if I used this feature in my application?
> >
> > Thank you
> > -Chris
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[android-developers] Re: Can I get sued for using Android Caller ID?? -Please answer

2010-02-28 Thread ko5tik
It depends heavily on laws of your place of residence
and importance of your application.  Most probably nobody will
ever notice.   However, I managed to get attention of lawyers
representing
nice delaware company holding right of tetris because of my applet
game
(used to be 1th hit in google )  - but no lawsuit,  just cease and
desist letter.

On Feb 27, 10:11 pm, chris harper  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I read this article and it concerns me. It's about patent
> infringements for the caller ID within android applications.
>
> http://techdirt.com/articles/20100224/0244468285.shtml
>
> I am writing an application for android which uses the
> PhoneStateListener and following the example outlined in this 
> article:http://almondmendoza.com/2009/01/30/getting-the-contact-info-when-on-...
>
> Have you guys at Google experienced developers being sued for using
> this feature (besides the one in the article of course).
>
> Should I be concerned here if I used this feature in my application?
>
> Thank you
> -Chris

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