[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
In the carriers and vendors, guess how they test the device applications: they download them and start clicking buttons (with obvious test plans and checkboxes). They also have programs to scan for APIs used so they know what components the app is using (GPS, network, etc). I've raised this on a couple of threads but there is no reason that we couldn't get a dozen or so developers who have the device in the US to help with testing other people's applications. A couple of hours per week volunteering could cover a lot of ground. We could even use webcams, so that the app developer can see the response time and interaction. Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Here's my temp plan: Ask someone from US to buy an unlocked G1 and send it to me. Use a local GSM carrier to enable G1. Hope its as easy as it sounds. On Sep 26, 8:22 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google, Encourage your developers worldwide. Only you can do this. On Sep 25, 7:40 pm, cbraun75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - they should allow a testhandy for developer even for non US ones. Maybe they can manage the developer authorization by give everybody one device which has a uploaded program at code.google ? to verify if it is a developer? That would be great. And would help to create cool apps! CU Christian On 25 Sep., 15:28, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days Fromhttp:// www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-... Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobilesearch. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
But we don't know if anyone has the device yet. I'm sure some of the developers might have got the device like the adc winning teams. Hmm On Sep 26, 9:01 pm, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the carriers and vendors, guess how they test the device applications: they download them and start clicking buttons (with obvious test plans and checkboxes). They also have programs to scan for APIs used so they know what components the app is using (GPS, network, etc). I've raised this on a couple of threads but there is no reason that we couldn't get a dozen or so developers who have the device in the US to help with testing other people's applications. A couple of hours per week volunteering could cover a lot of ground. We could even use webcams, so that the app developer can see the response time and interaction. Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Here's my temp plan: Ask someone from US to buy an unlocked G1 and send it to me. Use a local GSM carrier to enable G1. Hope its as easy as it sounds. On Sep 26, 8:22 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google, Encourage your developers worldwide. Only you can do this. On Sep 25, 7:40 pm, cbraun75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - they should allow a testhandy for developer even for non US ones. Maybe they can manage the developer authorization by give everybody one device which has a uploaded program at code.google ? to verify if it is a developer? That would be great. And would help to create cool apps! CU Christian On 25 Sep., 15:28, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days Fromhttp:// www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-... Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobilesearch. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: But we don't know if anyone has the device yet. I'm sure some of the developers might have got the device like the adc winning teams. Hmm I'm not expecting those groups, who are probably under NDA anyway, to volunteer. I'm talking about after the 22nd, when the device becomes generally available. Shane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Hi, Waiting patiently and keeping an eye on htc.com and its country specific product pages for any G1/Dream news, so far only the US page seems to have any details. This is hard if you don't live in a region serviced by T-Mobile, eg Australia I like most developers are keen to test on real devices, asap, particularly for the various sensors (camera, movement, compass, gps etc) - for which a remote testing facility cannot provide much help. It is also particularly important if you are to have any hope of participating in ADC II. Regards On Sep 25, 6:15 pm, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in- mobile search. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
I was asking the same question to the Google guys at one of the Developer Days. Unfortunately, they couldn't do anything about it. So, it looks like we depent on carriers or HTC when they make the devices available somewhere else. What does the OHA thinks about that? Do they want to let the developers idle? Couldn't they provide a pool of devices just for developers? Maybe they google could forward this issue to OHA... Probably the main problem is that there aren't enough devices anyway. Production takes time and money :-= Cheers, Friedger On Sep 25, 10:31 am, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Waiting patiently and keeping an eye on htc.com and its country specific product pages for any G1/Dream news, so far only the US page seems to have any details. This is hard if you don't live in a region serviced by T-Mobile, eg Australia I like most developers are keen to test on real devices, asap, particularly for the various sensors (camera, movement, compass, gps etc) - for which a remote testing facility cannot provide much help. It is also particularly important if you are to have any hope of participating in ADC II. Regards On Sep 25, 6:15 pm, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobile search. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Production takes time and money :-= So does developing Android applications. I observe that there is no shortage of devices to share with the press. Tom. 2008/9/25 friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was asking the same question to the Google guys at one of the Developer Days. Unfortunately, they couldn't do anything about it. So, it looks like we depent on carriers or HTC when they make the devices available somewhere else. What does the OHA thinks about that? Do they want to let the developers idle? Couldn't they provide a pool of devices just for developers? Maybe they google could forward this issue to OHA... Probably the main problem is that there aren't enough devices anyway. Production takes time and money :-= Cheers, Friedger On Sep 25, 10:31 am, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Waiting patiently and keeping an eye on htc.com and its country specific product pages for any G1/Dream news, so far only the US page seems to have any details. This is hard if you don't live in a region serviced by T-Mobile, eg Australia I like most developers are keen to test on real devices, asap, particularly for the various sensors (camera, movement, compass, gps etc) - for which a remote testing facility cannot provide much help. It is also particularly important if you are to have any hope of participating in ADC II. Regards On Sep 25, 6:15 pm, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobile search. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in- mobile search. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/27b03cd2f75547e2?hl=en see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days From http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-tethering-plus-a-few-detai/ Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobile search. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Yeah - they should allow a testhandy for developer even for non US ones. Maybe they can manage the developer authorization by give everybody one device which has a uploaded program at code.google ? to verify if it is a developer? That would be great. And would help to create cool apps! CU Christian On 25 Sep., 15:28, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days Fromhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-... Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobilesearch. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Google, Encourage your developers worldwide. Only you can do this. On Sep 25, 7:40 pm, cbraun75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - they should allow a testhandy for developer even for non US ones. Maybe they can manage the developer authorization by give everybody one device which has a uploaded program at code.google ? to verify if it is a developer? That would be great. And would help to create cool apps! CU Christian On 25 Sep., 15:28, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days Fromhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-... Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobilesearch. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Here's my temp plan: Ask someone from US to buy an unlocked G1 and send it to me. Use a local GSM carrier to enable G1. Hope its as easy as it sounds. On Sep 26, 8:22 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google, Encourage your developers worldwide. Only you can do this. On Sep 25, 7:40 pm, cbraun75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - they should allow a testhandy for developer even for non US ones. Maybe they can manage the developer authorization by give everybody one device which has a uploaded program at code.google ? to verify if it is a developer? That would be great. And would help to create cool apps! CU Christian On 25 Sep., 15:28, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days Fromhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-... Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobilesearch. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: G1 for testing outside US
Anyone know what happened to the promise of a G1 device for ADC 1 Winner? Is it only for the team captain, or for all team members? On Sep 26, 8:24 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my temp plan: Ask someone from US to buy an unlocked G1 and send it to me. Use a local GSM carrier to enable G1. Hope its as easy as it sounds. On Sep 26, 8:22 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google, Encourage your developers worldwide. Only you can do this. On Sep 25, 7:40 pm, cbraun75 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah - they should allow a testhandy for developer even for non US ones. Maybe they can manage the developer authorization by give everybody one device which has a uploaded program at code.google ? to verify if it is a developer? That would be great. And would help to create cool apps! CU Christian On 25 Sep., 15:28, gjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This seems to provide some hope, but maybe only in the US ? - http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... see - Matt More interestingly, buyers would be able to have access to a contract free G1 (with a price point of $399), and could unlock the device with T-Mobile's blessing after 90 days Fromhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-... Regards On Sep 25, 8:41 pm, blindfold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? I'm just testing in the emulator, hoping for the best (I'm in Europe). However, even in 1.0 r1 there are unspecified and unimplemented camera issues, such that for instance I have to hard-code the T-Mobile G1 camera resolution (2048 x 1536), which will no longer make sense once other Android phones hit the market. On Sep 25, 9:15 am, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How can non US developers get a G1 for testing? We can buy it for sure if its available. If we can't get a device for testing, can we just test in emulator? How are the Android developers worldwide handling this issue? Ideas, anyone? http://mobeegal.in-mobilesearch. redefined. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
