Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
2.2 makes it easier to update all. otherwise if you have a lot of apps and many have regular updates, it is actually quite tedious. personally every update, pre 2.2. was a time for introspection. do i love/use this app enough to spend the minute or two it will take of my effort to click thru the update process. with, 2.2, at least for the apps that don't change their permissions, it is an easier decision. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: So people just ignore the notification icon and don't bother updating? On Sep 15, 8:18 am, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 14, 9:21 pm, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote: If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! One of my games was released in April. More than 10 updates later, I am still receiving crash reports from the original version of the game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
On Sep 15, 3:53 pm, Christian Buchner christian.buch...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of people may be getting their apps from shady download sites instead through the Android Market (app packs, often packaged as rar archives and uploaded to share hosting sites or distributed through bittorrent). It's a free app, so I don't understand why people would bother getting it from such places. But there are also a lot of freeware sites that provide downloads (inevitably of old, outdated versions). It's still just weird that people keep playing a game (and having crashes) and don't bother to check whether there is a better version available. It's not that hard, after all, and one would think that people who enjoy a game enough to keep playing it months later would take the effort to actually find out about upgrades - especially since I'm pretty explicit in the documentation that this is still being developed. On Sep 15, 4:06 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: So people just ignore the notification icon and don't bother updating? I think (hope) that most people on the market have at least updated the game once or twice. With more recent versions of the game I am seeing better response to updates. I suspect, as Praskash mentions, that this is related to some of the improvements in 2.1 - 2.2. Regards, Michael A. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
On 14 September 2010 21:21, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote: If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! That's common problem. And that's people check for updates in their code as you can't rely on the OS there. And if you find out new version nag the user saying you do not support version they use but there's free update for them. Or that new version introduces many cool fixes and improvements, That usually works :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
On Sep 14, 9:21 pm, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote: If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! One of my games was released in April. More than 10 updates later, I am still receiving crash reports from the original version of the game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
One of my games was released in April. More than 10 updates later, I am still receiving crash reports from the original version of the game. A lot of people may be getting their apps from shady download sites instead through the Android Market (app packs, often packaged as rar archives and uploaded to share hosting sites or distributed through bittorrent). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
So people just ignore the notification icon and don't bother updating? On Sep 15, 8:18 am, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 14, 9:21 pm, Pent tas...@dinglisch.net wrote: If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! One of my games was released in April. More than 10 updates later, I am still receiving crash reports from the original version of the game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
Thanks for reporting back. Which explains why it happened after updating. I guess we just sit tight now and wait for a fix. If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! Pent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
I'm glad to see that a signal from the market team on Mars finally reached Earth! -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/14/10 21:21 , Pent wrote: Thanks for reporting back. Which explains why it happened after updating. I guess we just sit tight now and wait for a fix. If that turns out to be it, I'm kindof horrified how many people are running old versions of my app! ... we can only hope that after giving us the segmented data for stars (I'm not saying pretty useless, but almost useless, since the average value is enough), Google will soon give us the segmented data for the installed versions... I also have the feeling that many people don't update frequently and that it's a good idea to add a specific feature in the app that e.g. reads the info from a RSS feed and pops up an invitation to upgrade when a new version is published. - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - We make Java work. Everywhere. java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyP7soACgkQeDweFqgUGxeh8ACglN9H/O44JgbJfAtRlcLemWps Wm4An3F54j+GHZqHyXKbPkD2aN0e3xnt =1oKd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
The problem is the market team is located on Mars and during the closest approach the planet has to our own last month, when the team can transmit upgrades to the market, their communication gear malfunctioned, so we'll have to wait two more years for an update. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
Market is purely a Google thing, isn't it? I mean it wasn't developed at Android Inc. But your explanation seems pretty likely as well, John, except I think it was actually Halley's comet :) -- Kostya Vasilyev -- http://kmansoft.wordpress.com 02.09.2010 23:39 пользователь Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com написал: The problem is the market team is located on Mars and during the closest approach the planet has to our own last month, when the team can transmit upgrades to the market, their communication gear malfunctioned, so we'll have to wait two more years for an update. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
Dianne, is there a Google group to which these question could be put? On Sep 3, 8:06 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:13 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: I don't know about this stuff in Market, so I can't help you there That's really too bad. We could *really* use someone that's knows about this stuff in the Market around here. Considering how much time you and others spend helping out around here, why no one from the Market end is willing or able to take two seconds here and there to answer some extremely simple questions continues to boggle my mind. This group is for non-beginner development questions using the Android SDK. It doesn't really make sense for people who work on Market to follow such a group (especially since many of the people don't even know the Android SDK since they work on the servers). And again, I don't work on Market stuff, I am here to answer questions about developing with the SDK, so there isn't really anything I can add to this thread so I will stop now. :} -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
As stated in the other thread, the problem may just be that the algorithm that computes active install percentage may just be more accurate now. It could also be that your user base started uninstalling your app when you posted the update. Many people will uninstall an app they haven't used for a while when an update comes around because they are reminded they have it. I too have seen a drop from 64% to 61% in one of my apps and from 58% to 47% in another. Is this a problem or a correction? I guess we may never know. Regardless, since it's happening to everyone, it won't affect your position in the market or anything else tangible, so you might as well just live with it. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: GOOGLE, WHAT IS GOING ON with the Active Install %? Bug in install to SDCARD is my guess!
Well yes my app has started to drop in rank, although only by one position so far. But it's happening. -niko On Sep 1, 10:38 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:57 AM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes we have threads about this already but we still have not gotten an answer And don't expect one. It's not how Google rolls. AND I think it's about time somebody at least explain what does this number actually MEAN. Yeah, don't hold your breath on that one. I'm getting frustrated with the lack of transparency on this. It sucks, but this is the way it is. No sense in getting all riled up about it, particularly when we're all in the same boat. My opinion is there is a bug in the SDCARD install feature somewhere that is not counting those installs. I do not use the SDCARD install option and my stats have plunged off a steep cliff as well. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: As stated in the other thread, the problem may just be that the algorithm that computes active install percentage may just be more accurate now. I doubt this in particular for paid apps. There is a vast discrepancy between what I see in the Dev Console and Google Checkout. It could also be that your user base started uninstalling your app when you posted the update. Many people will uninstall an app they haven't used for a while when an update comes around because they are reminded they have it. Also not likely for paid apps. I too have seen a drop from 64% to 61% in one of my apps and from 58% to 47% in another. Is this a problem or a correction? I guess we may never know. My paid app has dropped about 25% TOTAL, meanwhile sales, according to Google Checkout, have never been better. I think it's a problem. Regardless, since it's happening to everyone, it won't affect your position in the market or anything else tangible, so you might as well just live with it. Yup. Just another day (week, month, year?) dealing with Da Market. Good times! - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
