[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
Thanks, but there's another aspect of the question. In order to reap the (substantial lovely) benefits of the re- usability of .apks, the users would need a way to get at them pass them around. They aren't likely to run adb. Can you say if there any plan to give them a mechanism for that ? Thanks, Richard On Dec 18, 7:58 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: You can use adb pull to retrieve an .apk from a running system. In this case our model is much more like PalmOS than windows, where the thing you download and install is also the thing that you run, there is no separate installer. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:41 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Dianne - that reminds me of another question - is the user going to have any way to get the .apk back off a device after installation ? I'm wondering if we should expect this world to be a bit like old- school PalmOS, where users tended to pass apps around, or more like (I'm sorry for the comparison) Windows Mobile, where once they have installed it they probably don't keep the .cab and so don't pass the app on to their friends. Thanks, Richard On Dec 17, 2:07 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We deliberately do not do this, so we can always reset the application back to the initial state it was installed in. Keeping .apks entirely self-contained, self-sufficient, and without needing some external installer that you can loose is of tremendous value in being able to manage everything the user has installed and simplifying their experience. This is something that I will very strongly push back from changing, and is central to just about everything about how we manage applications, such as the fact that applications don't go and explicitly register themselves with part of the system, but rather declare those things in the manifest. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Urs Grob grob@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to have something like an installation package that contains the apk as well as some files that are only needed during installation time. Like this you could deploy e.g. your sqlite db file with some initial content or some files that maybe should be stored inflated on the sdcard. -- Urs On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. Still seems like a shame... :-) R. On Dec 16, 5:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
Dianne - that reminds me of another question - is the user going to have any way to get the .apk back off a device after installation ? I'm wondering if we should expect this world to be a bit like old- school PalmOS, where users tended to pass apps around, or more like (I'm sorry for the comparison) Windows Mobile, where once they have installed it they probably don't keep the .cab and so don't pass the app on to their friends. Thanks, Richard On Dec 17, 2:07 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We deliberately do not do this, so we can always reset the application back to the initial state it was installed in. Keeping .apks entirely self-contained, self-sufficient, and without needing some external installer that you can loose is of tremendous value in being able to manage everything the user has installed and simplifying their experience. This is something that I will very strongly push back from changing, and is central to just about everything about how we manage applications, such as the fact that applications don't go and explicitly register themselves with part of the system, but rather declare those things in the manifest. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Urs Grob grob@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to have something like an installation package that contains the apk as well as some files that are only needed during installation time. Like this you could deploy e.g. your sqlite db file with some initial content or some files that maybe should be stored inflated on the sdcard. -- Urs On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. Still seems like a shame... :-) R. On Dec 16, 5:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
Thanks for the confirmation. Still seems like a shame... :-) R. On Dec 16, 5:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
It would be nice to have something like an installation package that contains the apk as well as some files that are only needed during installation time. Like this you could deploy e.g. your sqlite db file with some initial content or some files that maybe should be stored inflated on the sdcard. -- Urs On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. Still seems like a shame... :-) R. On Dec 16, 5:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
We deliberately do not do this, so we can always reset the application back to the initial state it was installed in. Keeping .apks entirely self-contained, self-sufficient, and without needing some external installer that you can loose is of tremendous value in being able to manage everything the user has installed and simplifying their experience. This is something that I will very strongly push back from changing, and is central to just about everything about how we manage applications, such as the fact that applications don't go and explicitly register themselves with part of the system, but rather declare those things in the manifest. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Urs Grob grob@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to have something like an installation package that contains the apk as well as some files that are only needed during installation time. Like this you could deploy e.g. your sqlite db file with some initial content or some files that maybe should be stored inflated on the sdcard. -- Urs On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. Still seems like a shame... :-) R. On Dec 16, 5:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
Hi maybe you can refer Browser component /package/apps/Browser/asserts/plugins/gear.so and BrowserActivity.java head of function run() On Dec 17, 10:07 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We deliberately do not do this, so we can always reset the application back to the initial state it was installed in. Keeping .apks entirely self-contained, self-sufficient, and without needing some external installer that you can loose is of tremendous value in being able to manage everything the user has installed and simplifying their experience. This is something that I will very strongly push back from changing, and is central to just about everything about how we manage applications, such as the fact that applications don't go and explicitly register themselves with part of the system, but rather declare those things in the manifest. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Urs Grob grob@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice to have something like an installation package that contains the apk as well as some files that are only needed during installation time. Like this you could deploy e.g. your sqlite db file with some initial content or some files that maybe should be stored inflated on the sdcard. -- Urs On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. Still seems like a shame... :-) R. On Dec 16, 5:25 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: The .apk is read-only, and can not be modified. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM, jarkman jark...@gmail.com wrote: We've got a similar issue, with a bunch of files that we extract from the apk on first run and will never need in the apk again. It is a terrible waste of space to leave them there. Shame. Richard On Dec 15, 9:16 pm, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
You cannot currently install a shared library via an APK file. Or for that matter, get it onto a non-hacked G1 at all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: How to remove a file in assets at run time?
Yes, I don't really need to remove it, but after I copy the share lib out, the share lib have two copy, it wast storage space. On 12月16日, 上午5时16分, Ralf ralfo...@gmail.com wrote: You can think of the the APK as being a read-only zip file, so I don't think you can remove anything from it. You don't really need to remove your lib from the apk anyway, do you? R/ On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:50 AM, shuoshuo wzshuos...@gmail.com wrote: I have made an application, it uses a C++ shared library, I want deploy it by including it with the .apk package, at run time, copy it from the assets to a file, then remove it from assets in apk, how could I remove a file from assets in apk at runtime? or Is there any other alternative to deploy a C++ shared library? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
