[android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[Nathan]

On Feb 12, 10:37 am, Kevin Duffey  wrote:
> Can someone get into google, figure out what sort of algorithm they are
> using, so we can adjust our apps descriptions to always appear at the top?
>

Traditionally, their algorithm hasn't been that complicated. You could
pretty much just keep repeating the term in your listing (in a natural
way) until you saw yourself rise to the top. I don't expect that will
always work and could be penalized.

That's most useful if you know what keywords are making you the big
bucks (and not just think you know). I've pretty much cracked that
part of the problem. I've even thought about putting up an online
training course on the, but have been too busy.

Nathan

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[Kevin Duffey]

Can someone get into google, figure out what sort of algorithm they are
using, so we can adjust our apps descriptions to always appear at the top?

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jon F Hancock wrote:

> Come to think of it, Radiant HD popped to the top of the list when I
> searched for Facebook the other day.  I think it is because Radiant HD
> describes itself as being able to share top scores on Facebook.  It still
> shouldn't show up above Facebook though.
>
> For a long time, my app, LauncherPro Icons, has shown above LauncherPro for
> a search for "launcherpro" despite LP having 1,000,000+ downloads and I have
> about 30,000.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Richard Leggett <
> richard.legg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Something weird is going on here, for example if you search on the Market
>> website for "twitter" you get the official app, and also games like Radiant
>> HD, but you don't get TweetDeck which has "Twitter" in the title and does
>> appear as the 2nd "related app" for Twitter (official).
>>
>> Very strange.
>>
>>
>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 00:10, TreKing wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Nathan wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 11, 1:19 pm, JonFHancock  wrote:
>>> > Getting a little cynical these days, huh TreKing? ;-)
>>> >
>>>
>>> These days?
>>
>>
>> LOL - you took my response :-P
>>
>>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[Jon F Hancock]

Come to think of it, Radiant HD popped to the top of the list when I
searched for Facebook the other day.  I think it is because Radiant HD
describes itself as being able to share top scores on Facebook.  It still
shouldn't show up above Facebook though.

For a long time, my app, LauncherPro Icons, has shown above LauncherPro for
a search for "launcherpro" despite LP having 1,000,000+ downloads and I have
about 30,000.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Richard Leggett
wrote:

> Something weird is going on here, for example if you search on the Market
> website for "twitter" you get the official app, and also games like Radiant
> HD, but you don't get TweetDeck which has "Twitter" in the title and does
> appear as the 2nd "related app" for Twitter (official).
>
> Very strange.
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2011, at 00:10, TreKing wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Nathan  wrote:
>
>> On Feb 11, 1:19 pm, JonFHancock  wrote:
>> > Getting a little cynical these days, huh TreKing? ;-)
>> >
>>
>> These days?
>
>
> LOL - you took my response :-P
>
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[Richard Leggett]

Something weird is going on here, for example if you search on the Market 
website for "twitter" you get the official app, and also games like Radiant HD, 
but you don't get TweetDeck which has "Twitter" in the title and does appear as 
the 2nd "related app" for Twitter (official).

Very strange.

On 12 Feb 2011, at 00:10, TreKing wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Nathan  wrote:
> On Feb 11, 1:19 pm, JonFHancock  wrote:
> > Getting a little cynical these days, huh TreKing? ;-)
> >
> 
> These days?
> 
> LOL - you took my response :-P
> 
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[TreKing]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Nathan  wrote:

> On Feb 11, 1:19 pm, JonFHancock  wrote:
> > Getting a little cynical these days, huh TreKing? ;-)
> >
>
> These days?


LOL - you took my response :-P

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[android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[Nathan]

On Feb 11, 1:19 pm, JonFHancock  wrote:
> Getting a little cynical these days, huh TreKing? ;-)
>

These days? Sorry, TreKing's assessment of the Market search is
adequate. The mere fact that they are tweaking it might mean it
*could* get better. And the Android Market team works at Google's
lunar base, where not even anyone else at Google hardly talks to
them.

It doesn't just matter the search algorithm that the Market uses - it
also matters the title and description that the developers choose.

That said, some of these results are strange enough that it might mean
they are throwing in some randomness into the search to measure which
things get clicked on. It wouldn't surprise me if Google started using
other factors to rank search besides keyword relevance.

I mention this as a fun theory; they aren't going to tell us what the
ranking factors are. Have they ever released their full search
algorithm for Google.com? Nope.

Nathan

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[android-developers] Re: Poor relevancy in Android market since yesterday.

[JonFHancock]

Getting a little cynical these days, huh TreKing? ;-)

>From market.android.com, the search results are pretty good for both
those search phrases.  "trail map" brings up two apparently decent
trail map apps first.  "English news" brings up news apps.  Most of
them cover foreign topics, but they are in English.  You can expect an
American or British news organization to show up for that though
because it is implied that they are in English, so the word "English"
will never be in their descriptions.

On Feb 11, 8:44 am, TreKing  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, MB  wrote:
> > I am noticing that the Android market search results have become extremely
> > irrelevant since yesterday.
>
>  This change in search quality(for the worse) is a recent one.
>
>
>
> The Market search has always been terrible. That it's gotten worse is
> impressive.
>
> > I haven't seen any official communication from Android market team on their
> > blog regarding any changes in Android market search algorithm.
>
> There never has been, AFAIK, and probably never will be. Communicating with
> developers is not something the Android Market Team does.
>
> After you've been on the Market long enough, you will learn to ignore issues
> like this. This is usually "the bug of the week", and they may eventually
> fix it - or more likely replace it with another bug. Stressing out over it
> will lead to nothing but your own premature balding.
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