[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens FYI: Just run a 1.5 app on the Honeycomb Preview Emulator and it did not postage stamp it! Woohoo! There was a lot of space around widgets (as expected), but the OpenGL stuff looked great! ...yes, I am still going to move my apps off 1.5. There are a lot of changes (direct buffers, bitmap decode scaling, screen touch coords, even the back button functionality seems to have changed!). On Jan 10, 5:12 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: In fact since the APIs for this have been in the platform since 1.6, by the simple act of saying you are targeting 1.6 or later (with android:targetSdkVersion=4 or larger), you are telling the platform you know about different screen sizes and will get the full available space. You already see this today on the Samsung Tab, and if you set up a larger screen in the emulator. The best way to prepare for tablets is to do what is already there: say you support larger screens, and ensure you do work on them. The only thing that is really different is xlarge screens. Those were introduced in 2.3. Prior to that, we never really defined what the maximum size of a large screen is, so the cut-off points between these is now more formalized. Also because we never defined the limit for large, it is unlikely that we will do any kind of compatibility for apps that say they support large but don't support xlarge. That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. Once you are in the I know screens are more than 480x320 world, you need to be sure you do something reasonable for any screen larger than the minimum size class you have said you support. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Romain Guy romain...@android.com wrote: It depends on how your app is setup. Depending on how applications declare how they support multiple screens and densities the app might be boxed, scaled or simply fill the screen and rely on layout to look correct. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: And you all have done a fantastic job at that. However, I'm not a fan of boxing an app for large screens. I would much prefer an app to be expanded to the full screen size and look a little pixelated, then only take up a small section of the screen. ...apologies that this comment is off topic. On Jan 10, 9:44 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We try hard to not break apps in newer versions of the platform, as long as they are written correctly. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note:
[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) I've thought about it and come up with two ways to better allow apps to use that bigger real-estate. A) Add a new Resource size (current: hdpi, mdpi, ldpi) such as an 'xhdpi' or 'tdpi' tag for tablet screen sizes (most likely option, IMO, based on the Gingerbread changes to the status bar icons with the addition of the -v9 suffix for those directories) i) Very simple, and natural next step. B) Allow nested activities to allow developers to quickly transition their apps from smart-phone based to tablet-based. Then people could easily transition apps to Tablet form factors. i) Example: Have a listView of emails on the left that sends intents to the right half of the screen to display those emails. ii) Although it doesn't flow the regular way android applications are architectured, I think it would quickly allow developers to make their apps awesome for tablets without putting in a lot of man hours to change their apps. iii) Could be done by adding an extra piece of information to the intent, Much like a web page with multiple frames works. Those were my guesses, but based on Dianne's answer, I think it's safe to assume that A will come. All of the current blog posts encourage developers to make use of the resource architecture that's been implemented in Android. screen geometry post: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/screen-geometry-fun.html Example blog post on uses-features in tablets and Google TV: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/10/five-steps-to-future-hardware-happiness.html This is just my opinion, looking at the situation and such. Hope this helps people also speculating about what Honeycomb will bring. Thanks for reading, Scott MacWatters -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
I'd make the assumption that with higher resolution phones on the way soon that Honeycomb would be for phones also with a similar UI and the same API, would be interesting to hear more on this though if anyone knows and is allowed to reveal at this stage. On 10 January 2011 08:43, mort m...@sto-helit.de wrote: I don't know if I get a bit off-topic, but it's still related to Honeycomb and tablets: I've seen several apps in the Honeycomb videos which displayed in one screen what must've been multiple Activities before, like e.g. the mail list and single mail view. Will there be an easy way to support multiple visible Activities, or is it just hard work to create mightier Widgets (e.g. something like the mail list as Widget instead of ListActivity) and lots of if that Widget exists in the current layout ...? I think it'd be a good idea to give developers some chance to prepare for things like that. Properly supporting tablets is more than just supporting a different screen size, it's often a completely different UI that must be supported in the same app... Also, can you give some hints how the future way is planned? Will there be a Honeycomb for smartphones with a different UI? Will tablet and smartphone APIs remain compatible? (You know the problem with the bad long f word... ;)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Scott scott.macwatt...@gmail.com wrote: A) Add a new Resource size (current: hdpi, mdpi, ldpi) such as an 'xhdpi' or 'tdpi' tag for tablet screen sizes http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html#qualifiers - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
I don't know if I get a bit off-topic, but it's still related to Honeycomb and tablets: I've seen several apps in the Honeycomb videos which displayed in one screen what must've been multiple Activities before, like e.g. the mail list and single mail view. Will there be an easy way to support multiple visible Activities, or is it just hard work to create mightier Widgets (e.g. something like the mail list as Widget instead of ListActivity) and lots of if that Widget exists in the current layout ...? I think it'd be a good idea to give developers some chance to prepare for things like that. Properly supporting tablets is more than just supporting a different screen size, it's often a completely different UI that must be supported in the same app... Also, can you give some hints how the future way is planned? Will there be a Honeycomb for smartphones with a different UI? Will tablet and smartphone APIs remain compatible? (You know the problem with the bad long f word... ;)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:43 AM, mort m...@sto-helit.de wrote: I've seen several apps in the Honeycomb videos which displayed in one screen what must've been multiple Activities before, like e.g. the mail list and single mail view. Will there be an easy way to support multiple visible Activities, or is it just hard work to create mightier Widgets (e.g. something like the mail list as Widget instead of ListActivity) and lots of if that Widget exists in the current layout ...? I think Andy made a comment about this a while ago. I can't get into details about Honeycomb at this point. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. That is what I was talking about. I would prefer 1.5 and earlier apps to expand and not get boxed to a postage stamp. ...and yes, I know, I really should upgrade my apps to 1.6. :-) On Jan 10, 5:12 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: In fact since the APIs for this have been in the platform since 1.6, by the simple act of saying you are targeting 1.6 or later (with android:targetSdkVersion=4 or larger), you are telling the platform you know about different screen sizes and will get the full available space. You already see this today on the Samsung Tab, and if you set up a larger screen in the emulator. The best way to prepare for tablets is to do what is already there: say you support larger screens, and ensure you do work on them. The only thing that is really different is xlarge screens. Those were introduced in 2.3. Prior to that, we never really defined what the maximum size of a large screen is, so the cut-off points between these is now more formalized. Also because we never defined the limit for large, it is unlikely that we will do any kind of compatibility for apps that say they support large but don't support xlarge. That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. Once you are in the I know screens are more than 480x320 world, you need to be sure you do something reasonable for any screen larger than the minimum size class you have said you support. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Romain Guy romain...@android.com wrote: It depends on how your app is setup. Depending on how applications declare how they support multiple screens and densities the app might be boxed, scaled or simply fill the screen and rely on layout to look correct. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: And you all have done a fantastic job at that. However, I'm not a fan of boxing an app for large screens. I would much prefer an app to be expanded to the full screen size and look a little pixelated, then only take up a small section of the screen. ...apologies that this comment is off topic. On Jan 10, 9:44 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We try hard to not break apps in newer versions of the platform, as long as they are written correctly. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. That is what I was talking about. I would prefer 1.5 and earlier apps to expand and not get boxed to a postage stamp. ...and yes, I know, I really should upgrade my apps to 1.6. :-) Yes, you really should update your app to either say it *knows* about something more than 1.5 (through android:targetSdkVersion) or that it knows about larger screens. We have been talking about this stuff for well over a year. I think it is unlikely at this point to have a UI for users to be able to switch apps between postage stamp and letter box, because that is a poorer experience than one where the apps just do the right thing in the first place. And besides, it wouldn't help any existing tablets that are now shipping or will soon. If you care about the user experience here with your app, make it do *something* reasonable. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
Yes, agreed. I just would have preferred the users to get a letter box size, rather then a postage stamp size. I am impressed that this is the first change I have had to do since Android 1.5, and the change is really only to support new hardware. Excellent work Android team! :-) On Jan 11, 2:09 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. That is what I was talking about. I would prefer 1.5 and earlier apps to expand and not get boxed to a postage stamp. ...and yes, I know, I really should upgrade my apps to 1.6. :-) Yes, you really should update your app to either say it *knows* about something more than 1.5 (through android:targetSdkVersion) or that it knows about larger screens. We have been talking about this stuff for well over a year. I think it is unlikely at this point to have a UI for users to be able to switch apps between postage stamp and letter box, because that is a poorer experience than one where the apps just do the right thing in the first place. And besides, it wouldn't help any existing tablets that are now shipping or will soon. If you care about the user experience here with your app, make it do *something* reasonable. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
Thanks, we appreciate it. :) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, agreed. I just would have preferred the users to get a letter box size, rather then a postage stamp size. I am impressed that this is the first change I have had to do since Android 1.5, and the change is really only to support new hardware. Excellent work Android team! :-) On Jan 11, 2:09 pm, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. That is what I was talking about. I would prefer 1.5 and earlier apps to expand and not get boxed to a postage stamp. ...and yes, I know, I really should upgrade my apps to 1.6. :-) Yes, you really should update your app to either say it *knows* about something more than 1.5 (through android:targetSdkVersion) or that it knows about larger screens. We have been talking about this stuff for well over a year. I think it is unlikely at this point to have a UI for users to be able to switch apps between postage stamp and letter box, because that is a poorer experience than one where the apps just do the right thing in the first place. And besides, it wouldn't help any existing tablets that are now shipping or will soon. If you care about the user experience here with your app, make it do *something* reasonable. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
We try hard to not break apps in newer versions of the platform, as long as they are written correctly. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
And you all have done a fantastic job at that. However, I'm not a fan of boxing an app for large screens. I would much prefer an app to be expanded to the full screen size and look a little pixelated, then only take up a small section of the screen. ...apologies that this comment is off topic. On Jan 10, 9:44 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We try hard to not break apps in newer versions of the platform, as long as they are written correctly. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
It depends on how your app is setup. Depending on how applications declare how they support multiple screens and densities the app might be boxed, scaled or simply fill the screen and rely on layout to look correct. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: And you all have done a fantastic job at that. However, I'm not a fan of boxing an app for large screens. I would much prefer an app to be expanded to the full screen size and look a little pixelated, then only take up a small section of the screen. ...apologies that this comment is off topic. On Jan 10, 9:44 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We try hard to not break apps in newer versions of the platform, as long as they are written correctly. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's new in honeycomb?
In fact since the APIs for this have been in the platform since 1.6, by the simple act of saying you are targeting 1.6 or later (with android:targetSdkVersion=4 or larger), you are telling the platform you know about different screen sizes and will get the full available space. You already see this today on the Samsung Tab, and if you set up a larger screen in the emulator. The best way to prepare for tablets is to do what is already there: say you support larger screens, and ensure you do work on them. The only thing that is really different is xlarge screens. Those were introduced in 2.3. Prior to that, we never really defined what the maximum size of a large screen is, so the cut-off points between these is now more formalized. Also because we never defined the limit for large, it is unlikely that we will do any kind of compatibility for apps that say they support large but don't support xlarge. That is, no postage stamp in the middle like we did for apps targeting prior to 1.6 that only ever thought about 480x320 mdpi screens. Once you are in the I know screens are more than 480x320 world, you need to be sure you do something reasonable for any screen larger than the minimum size class you have said you support. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Romain Guy romain...@android.com wrote: It depends on how your app is setup. Depending on how applications declare how they support multiple screens and densities the app might be boxed, scaled or simply fill the screen and rely on layout to look correct. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Craig Mitchell craig...@gmail.com wrote: And you all have done a fantastic job at that. However, I'm not a fan of boxing an app for large screens. I would much prefer an app to be expanded to the full screen size and look a little pixelated, then only take up a small section of the screen. ...apologies that this comment is off topic. On Jan 10, 9:44 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: We try hard to not break apps in newer versions of the platform, as long as they are written correctly. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:40 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: I would like to know if our applications written for 2.2 and 2.3 tablets will work on honeycomb without modifications. On Jan 7, 1:27 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.orgwrote: Obviously this new android will grant compatibility to olter apps right? You may have seen the numerous developer blogs posts on preparing for larger screens and such. :) -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer
