[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I did. But I am know internet genius. Just me and a friend trying to make a quick buck a while ago. Never thought it would actually work! made a couple hundred. Called it quits. Working on other projects. My info is not on record with them. If you look at where he got this info and when it says it was last updatedjan-26th It shows itslef as out dated. You created site whose sole purpose was to steal from us. You get zero pity from us, whether or not you still run it. Now you claim you don't run it any more. One question: who did you sell it to? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
I can careless about your pity nor do I need it. Good day. On Apr 11, 2:19 pm, Edward Falk ed.f...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I did. But I am know internet genius. Just me and a friend trying to make a quick buck a while ago. Never thought it would actually work! made a couple hundred. Called it quits. Working on other projects. My info is not on record with them. If you look at where he got this info and when it says it was last updatedjan-26th It shows itslef as out dated. You created site whose sole purpose was to steal from us. You get zero pity from us, whether or not you still run it. Now you claim you don't run it any more. One question: who did you sell it to? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
@Nick, I know you didn't say that (that you were being dragged in), I was responding to what someone else said, about you. Just pointing out that nobody is to blame if your name is on public records affiliated with things you wish not to be affiliated with. That's sorta your responsibility. @JP, Android is a great platform, and will be #1 in the near future; no serious developer will ignore it, if (s)he aims to be successful. Piracy sucks; it's easy to be angry when stupid kids earn money (perhaps more than us) from re-selling the product of our hard work. Nonetheless, MS doesn't fight for the copyright rights of Windows developers, Apple doesn't fight for Apple developers, and we've really no reason to expect Google to fight for our rights. In truth, the platform is probably more popular because it's so easy to pirate software, and that benefits Google. We need a good solution that works well in the $0.99 to $9.99 per unit model. Some exist, but I haven't seen a great one yet. In the mean time, issuing take-down notices, complaining to hosting companies and discussing it here in the hopes of a better solution is about all we can do for now. Any of us could sue the offenders, but it's expensive. Cheers! SoftwareForMe.com On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 9, 9:49 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you should talk to someone about that depression... can't be healthy. Would rather be indifference (posting on the way to Tahoe, we're having an outstanding skiing season here this year). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Personally, I think the last part of this conversation is much ado about nothing. Nick was the original registrar, and original architect of the illegal business, and the public information shows that connection and that is all. Covering your tracks after a crime is something best left to the criminal, and there's really no need to have public debate about whether it's okay for people to re-disclose public information, whether it makes others nervous or not; of course its okay. And Nick, nobody has dragged you back into this. It appears you have simply not completely taken yourself out in the first place. *About the site*: they are pirates. They plan to release an app to the market soon that will let their customers download your apps for free (after paying them, of course). They have done several waves of advertising via Market comments on all the apps they have purchased (in fact, it was a comment by Nick on our app that first brought my attention to their site, late last year). Consequently, you can't really tell if they carry your app, because the catalog visible to non-users does not show all of their downloads. For example, they carry our product right now, but it is not in the public catalog. Nonetheless, many users have notified us that they found our product there. However, if you cannot find your app in the public list, I encourage you to forget it for now and NOT pay them for a membership. I believe they have already made many thousands in ill-gotten gains. Finally, I think there are only two solutions to this and the many other pirate sites: (1) Protect your app with some license scheme. (2) Launch a campaign to take down the site. This will have to be done via a lawsuit. Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight, and it doesn't harm them in any way. Cheers! SoftwareForMe.com On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: There is no law which covers reproducing information in the public domain (such as whois records). You should contact the registrar (GoDaddy), inform them the information is wrong and they're publishing your personal information, and ask for the domain to be taken down as it's incorrectly registered. Better still, as whomever is involved in it has listed you as the admin and tech contacts you could ask GoDaddy to transfer the domain to your control, then point it at a domain parking page. That way you could get money from the parking page and the site would become a non- issue for everyone here and so they'd stop hassling you. Have a nice day, Al. On Apr 9, 1:23 am, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times,
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
They use paypal. Submit this form to close their paypal account. https://cms.paypal.com/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_render-contentcontent_ID=ua/InfringementRpt_fulllocale.x=en_US On Apr 9, 3:18 pm, SoftwareForMe.com SoftwareForMe.com softwareforme@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think the last part of this conversation is much ado about nothing. Nick was the original registrar, and original architect of the illegal business, and the public information shows that connection and that is all. Covering your tracks after a crime is something best left to the criminal, and there's really no need to have public debate about whether it's okay for people to re-disclose public information, whether it makes others nervous or not; of course its okay. And Nick, nobody has dragged you back into this. It appears you have simply not completely taken yourself out in the first place. *About the site*: they are pirates. They plan to release an app to the market soon that will let their customers download your apps for free (after paying them, of course). They have done several waves of advertising via Market comments on all the apps they have purchased (in fact, it was a comment by Nick on our app that first brought my attention to their site, late last year). Consequently, you can't really tell if they carry your app, because the catalog visible to non-users does not show all of their downloads. For example, they carry our product right now, but it is not in the public catalog. Nonetheless, many users have notified us that they found our product there. However, if you cannot find your app in the public list, I encourage you to forget it for now and NOT pay them for a membership. I believe they have already made many thousands in ill-gotten gains. Finally, I think there are only two solutions to this and the many other pirate sites: (1) Protect your app with some license scheme. (2) Launch a campaign to take down the site. This will have to be done via a lawsuit. Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight, and it doesn't harm them in any way. Cheers! SoftwareForMe.com On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: There is no law which covers reproducing information in the public domain (such as whois records). You should contact the registrar (GoDaddy), inform them the information is wrong and they're publishing your personal information, and ask for the domain to be taken down as it's incorrectly registered. Better still, as whomever is involved in it has listed you as the admin and tech contacts you could ask GoDaddy to transfer the domain to your control, then point it at a domain parking page. That way you could get money from the parking page and the site would become a non- issue for everyone here and so they'd stop hassling you. Have a nice day, Al. On Apr 9, 1:23 am, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Very well put, except for the fact that I did not state anything about being dragged back into this. From what I can see now is that they made the info private, Not sure if they removed my name but it is private now. What I was told by developer Bob Kerns is that they plan to take down the site this month. At the end of the month so hopefully this will solve all errors. I have access to the site through a membership and your app phonemypc is not there. I believe they stuck to the agreement me and you had a while back. Anyways, I don't care for this topic anymore. It is a topic that won't go any where. Matter of fact late last night about 2am my time somebody txt my phone talking crapwhat are we going to do about this? You made a big mistake! alot of other comments. He is trying to bribe me, but i won't fall for it. His name is Wade Ivey, I did a reverse lookup of the cell phone number and found some useful info about him. He is a developer of one theme in the market. I would stay away from him as a precaution. He tells me he will call me tomorrow(today) to discuss his proposition HA!! Kiss my a**! Yea right... On Apr 9, 6:18 pm, SoftwareForMe.com SoftwareForMe.com softwareforme@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think the last part of this conversation is much ado about nothing. Nick was the original registrar, and original architect of the illegal business, and the public information shows that connection and that is all. Covering your tracks after a crime is something best left to the criminal, and there's really no need to have public debate about whether it's okay for people to re-disclose public information, whether it makes others nervous or not; of course its okay. And Nick, nobody has dragged you back into this. It appears you have simply not completely taken yourself out in the first place. *About the site*: they are pirates. They plan to release an app to the market soon that will let their customers download your apps for free (after paying them, of course). They have done several waves of advertising via Market comments on all the apps they have purchased (in fact, it was a comment by Nick on our app that first brought my attention to their site, late last year). Consequently, you can't really tell if they carry your app, because the catalog visible to non-users does not show all of their downloads. For example, they carry our product right now, but it is not in the public catalog. Nonetheless, many users have notified us that they found our product there. However, if you cannot find your app in the public list, I encourage you to forget it for now and NOT pay them for a membership. I believe they have already made many thousands in ill-gotten gains. Finally, I think there are only two solutions to this and the many other pirate sites: (1) Protect your app with some license scheme. (2) Launch a campaign to take down the site. This will have to be done via a lawsuit. Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight, and it doesn't harm them in any way. Cheers! SoftwareForMe.com On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: There is no law which covers reproducing information in the public domain (such as whois records). You should contact the registrar (GoDaddy), inform them the information is wrong and they're publishing your personal information, and ask for the domain to be taken down as it's incorrectly registered. Better still, as whomever is involved in it has listed you as the admin and tech contacts you could ask GoDaddy to transfer the domain to your control, then point it at a domain parking page. That way you could get money from the parking page and the site would become a non- issue for everyone here and so they'd stop hassling you. Have a nice day, Al. On Apr 9, 1:23 am, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
On Apr 9, 3:18 pm, SoftwareForMe.com SoftwareForMe.com softwareforme@gmail.com wrote: Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight, and it doesn't harm them in any way. Well looking at the lowlife bottom feeder stuff here, I have to say that a dev with half an ounce credential will be put off and not spend an hour getting into Android? Can't be good in the long run. In its current state, I sure I wouldn't feel attracted to the platform, but no harm, I'm into this since Rc37. At this point, at least there are some great networking opportunities here in San Francisco, otherwise I don't see how it would make much sense to carry on, really. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Perhaps you should talk to someone about that depression... can't be healthy. On Apr 9, 11:46 pm, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 9, 3:18 pm, SoftwareForMe.com SoftwareForMe.com softwareforme@gmail.com wrote: Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight, and it doesn't harm them in any way. Well looking at the lowlife bottom feeder stuff here, I have to say that a dev with half an ounce credential will be put off and not spend an hour getting into Android? Can't be good in the long run. In its current state, I sure I wouldn't feel attracted to the platform, but no harm, I'm into this since Rc37. At this point, at least there are some great networking opportunities here in San Francisco, otherwise I don't see how it would make much sense to carry on, really. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
On Apr 9, 9:49 pm, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you should talk to someone about that depression... can't be healthy. Would rather be indifference (posting on the way to Tahoe, we're having an outstanding skiing season here this year). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Really? how did you even find that? But even so.. they sell apps on there site..why would that site spam comments? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: They've been adding spam comments to apps. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
If you visit the Market via your phone, you'll more than likely stumble across one of these spam comments (I just had a quick look on various paid apps' review, but can't seem to see any; perhaps they've been removed?). AFAIK, the 'playground' site charges a fixed fee and allows unlimited downloads of apps that they've obtained from other, above-board, Android stores. On Apr 8, 8:33 am, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: Really? how did you even find that? But even so.. they sell apps on there site..why would that site spam comments? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: They've been adding spam comments to apps. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
It looks to me like they may be doing this to the apps they offer on their site. It might even be with permission -- though if the OP was complaining of their doing it to one of his apps, I guess not. HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? I could just be missing the link somewhere. Or perhaps they contact you to negotiate a license, and only when a user requests your app. I couldn't find a way to contact them to ask, either, without subscribing. Altogether, it makes me very uneasy about them. Possibly unwarranted. Does anyone have any experience with having their app listed with them? On Apr 8, 12:44 am, jamesc jame...@gmail.com wrote: If you visit the Market via your phone, you'll more than likely stumble across one of these spam comments (I just had a quick look on various paid apps' review, but can't seem to see any; perhaps they've been removed?). AFAIK, the 'playground' site charges a fixed fee and allows unlimited downloads of apps that they've obtained from other, above-board, Android stores. On Apr 8, 8:33 am, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: Really? how did you even find that? But even so.. they sell apps on there site..why would that site spam comments? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: They've been adding spam comments to apps. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? My money's on them being pirates. Their selling point is that they can get you access to all paid apps you want for one monthly fee. Odds are they are pirating paid apps and reaping the profits of re-distributing them. I don't see how any developer would agree to this or how they would get fairly compensated under such a structure. - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
They are pirates, period. And everytime I see their spam I long press and mark the comment as spam. -b On Apr 8, 10:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:56 AM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote: And everytime I see their spam I long press and mark the comment as spam. Too bad that doesn't do a damn thing besides removing it from your own view. - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Oh andBOB. Your a real smart a** to list my name as thet= tech with their current nameservers, which at the time were not the nameservers. YOu edited thewho is.net with the info found here. That is wrong On Apr 8, 8:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Oh, and go right ahead and f***ing call me. Ill tell you the same Sh** On Apr 8, 8:43 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: Oh andBOB. Your a real smart a** to list my name as thet= tech with their current nameservers, which at the time were not the nameservers. YOu edited thewho is.net with the info found here. That is wrong On Apr 8, 8:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
I can't beleive that site is still around. There's been a few posts about it in the Google Groups and even Market Help. Here's some links: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/ca05360fe2e3b347/c0e64229dcdfb34 http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/67b60f8d1b2ea1d1/f570876b66715654 http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/b6ec4b781b8b03a9/d388366ce3c91b6b http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=2c9d2e834729bc01hl=en They think they're not doing anything wrong cuz if you catch them selling your app and contact them, they'll remove it or offer rev sharing if you let them continue distributing. They steal dev's APK and then to top it off they spam the market and steal the sales too. @Nick, you gotta contact GoDaddy and tell them what's going on so you can get your name off this site. Otherwise this is going to keep poppin up with your info. I'd say contact the guy you sold it to, but I'm pretty sure he rather keep your name on it. On Apr 8, 8:49 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and go right ahead and f***ing call me. Ill tell you the same Sh** On Apr 8, 8:43 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: Oh andBOB. Your a real smart a** to list my name as thet= tech with their current nameservers, which at the time were not the nameservers. YOu edited thewho is.net with the info found here. That is wrong On Apr 8, 8:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- Rob Mazur http://droiddojo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Boy... If memory serves me right, you tried to elude ISP takedown in the US at least once. You knew and were told you were on the wrong side of the fence. Letting the site die instead of selling it and this would have long been forgotten. Perhaps you should buy it back. On Apr 8, 5:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
The domain records are long sanitized. What you're looking at is copied from old posts. As some kind of payback, I would think. On Apr 8, 6:17 pm, Rob Mazur r...@droiddojo.com wrote: I can't beleive that site is still around. There's been a few posts about it in the Google Groups and even Market Help. Here's some links: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa...http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/6...http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/b...http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=2c9... They think they're not doing anything wrong cuz if you catch them selling your app and contact them, they'll remove it or offer rev sharing if you let them continue distributing. They steal dev's APK and then to top it off they spam the market and steal the sales too. @Nick, you gotta contact GoDaddy and tell them what's going on so you can get your name off this site. Otherwise this is going to keep poppin up with your info. I'd say contact the guy you sold it to, but I'm pretty sure he rather keep your name on it. On Apr 8, 8:49 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and go right ahead and f***ing call me. Ill tell you the same Sh** On Apr 8, 8:43 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: Oh andBOB. Your a real smart a** to list my name as thet= tech with their current nameservers, which at the time were not the nameservers. YOu edited thewho is.net with the info found here. That is wrong On Apr 8, 8:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- Rob Mazurhttp://droiddojo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
The public record claims you are. If you are not, then you have a problem, but it is not of my making. One that I'd be quite happy to help you rectify. I've not been a victim of exactly this sort of thing, but I have been the victim of other domain-name shenanigans. http://whois.domaintools.com/androidplayground.net is the source of my information; I just copied and pasted from this public information available to anyone, and the first place someone would look. It is absolutely NOT in violation of ANY law to pass along this information, in any country. You cannot threaten me. Gaining my sympathy and help is quite another story! What you need to do is to contact the domain registrar and insist that THEY correct the information. Actually, since you appear to be the owner of record, it would be best if you just took it down until the new owner properly registers, as is required. I have also had a message from the current owner, who indicates they are indeed somewhat of a pirate and that they're shutting down. I wouldn't take that as much comfort, however, and I'd get my name removed from that registration ASAP. I am sorry for surfacing the problem in this way, and if I can help you in any way, please let me know. On Apr 8, 5:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
I did. But I am know internet genius. Just me and a friend trying to make a quick buck a while ago. Never thought it would actually work! made a couple hundred. Called it quits. Working on other projects. My info is not on record with them. If you look at where he got this info and when it says it was last updatedjan-26th It shows itslef as out dated. whois.net updates daily. they are the most reliable. Don' post info if it is outdated, just by looking at it you can ell. Check whois.net and you can see it was updated daily and is not associated with me. On Apr 8, 9:47 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: The public record claims you are. If you are not, then you have a problem, but it is not of my making. One that I'd be quite happy to help you rectify. I've not been a victim of exactly this sort of thing, but I have been the victim of other domain-name shenanigans. http://whois.domaintools.com/androidplayground.net is the source of my information; I just copied and pasted from this public information available to anyone, and the first place someone would look. It is absolutely NOT in violation of ANY law to pass along this information, in any country. You cannot threaten me. Gaining my sympathy and help is quite another story! What you need to do is to contact the domain registrar and insist that THEY correct the information. Actually, since you appear to be the owner of record, it would be best if you just took it down until the new owner properly registers, as is required. I have also had a message from the current owner, who indicates they are indeed somewhat of a pirate and that they're shutting down. I wouldn't take that as much comfort, however, and I'd get my name removed from that registration ASAP. I am sorry for surfacing the problem in this way, and if I can help you in any way, please let me know. On Apr 8, 5:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Just an update. The information I gave is current, the InterNIC gets their info from the top-lelvel registrars. For the .com and .net domains, Verisign delegates the details to the individual registars, in this case GoDaddy. The various tools (not just the one I gave) recurse and get these details. Verisign's own tool will do so, in fact. I just got mail from Nick that he's on the phone to GoDaddy now. I certainly hope this clears it up for him. I'm very sorry to have dragged him back into it, but I hope I've been of some help in straightening it out. BTW, these are all live records, and propagate within 48 hours of registration changes. The date on them is the date of the last change. On Apr 8, 6:59 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I did. But I am know internet genius. Just me and a friend trying to make a quick buck a while ago. Never thought it would actually work! made a couple hundred. Called it quits. Working on other projects. My info is not on record with them. If you look at where he got this info and when it says it was last updatedjan-26th It shows itslef as out dated. whois.net updates daily. they are the most reliable. Don' post info if it is outdated, just by looking at it you can ell. Check whois.net and you can see it was updated daily and is not associated with me. On Apr 8, 9:47 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: The public record claims you are. If you are not, then you have a problem, but it is not of my making. One that I'd be quite happy to help you rectify. I've not been a victim of exactly this sort of thing, but I have been the victim of other domain-name shenanigans. http://whois.domaintools.com/androidplayground.net is the source of my information; I just copied and pasted from this public information available to anyone, and the first place someone would look. It is absolutely NOT in violation of ANY law to pass along this information, in any country. You cannot threaten me. Gaining my sympathy and help is quite another story! What you need to do is to contact the domain registrar and insist that THEY correct the information. Actually, since you appear to be the owner of record, it would be best if you just took it down until the new owner properly registers, as is required. I have also had a message from the current owner, who indicates they are indeed somewhat of a pirate and that they're shutting down. I wouldn't take that as much comfort, however, and I'd get my name removed from that registration ASAP. I am sorry for surfacing the problem in this way, and if I can help you in any way, please let me know. On Apr 8, 5:23 pm, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
There is no law which covers reproducing information in the public domain (such as whois records). You should contact the registrar (GoDaddy), inform them the information is wrong and they're publishing your personal information, and ask for the domain to be taken down as it's incorrectly registered. Better still, as whomever is involved in it has listed you as the admin and tech contacts you could ask GoDaddy to transfer the domain to your control, then point it at a domain parking page. That way you could get money from the parking page and the site would become a non- issue for everyone here and so they'd stop hassling you. Have a nice day, Al. On Apr 9, 1:23 am, Guess Who, You Probably have my Number nnarb...@gmail.com wrote: I will say this one more time. DO NOT own this site or am I affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did or does with it is out of my control. Please remove my contact info. On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns r...@acm.org wrote: Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP, domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly being ripped off to do the same. I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the evidence and the legal standing for a complaint. They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of thing has always been illegal. If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're jumping to conclusions. Registrant: Private 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET Created on: 10-Sep-09 Expires on: 10-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10 Administrative Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Technical Contact: narbone, nicholas 9306 new heritage rd apt 302 orlando, Florida 32825 United States +1.4073348336 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug gsuku...@gmail.com wrote: Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action. I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus on building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders. -g On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote: HOWEVER -- as a developer, I can find no way to list my paid app on their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers getting paid, or are these pirates? 100% pirates -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
We've been chasing around over the last year or so but seem to have set up shop in the Netherlands. You could try to see if you could get them through their ISP Kaabelfon. On Apr 7, 9:01 pm, schwiz sch...@gmail.com wrote: http://androidplayground.net/web/ they have been spamming the market all day, hope someone can get them shut down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
Trigger happy tonight... On Apr 7, 9:05 pm, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: We've been chasing them around over the last year or so but they seem to have set up shop in the Netherlands. You could try to see if you could get them through their ISP Kaabelfon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
What do you mean spamming the market? Where/how do I see this? I checked the just-in section of games and apps and am not sure what to be looking for? On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:07 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Trigger happy tonight... On Apr 7, 9:05 pm, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: We've been chasing them around over the last year or so but they seem to have set up shop in the Netherlands. You could try to see if you could get them through their ISP Kaabelfon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: any lawyer types out there that can get this site down?
They've been adding spam comments to apps. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
