Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

2020-07-10 Thread Tõnu Tammer via anti-abuse-wg
This statement is simply not correct to put it mildly!

When we contacted you regarding C2 of Netwire malware you replied and I
quote: "To make long things short: Because we have no logs, there isn't
much we can do in order to solve this case."

Tonu
CERT-EE

On 10.07.2020 13:07, i...@fos-vpn.org wrote:
> To answer your last question: If we receive a valid abuse report i.e.
> from a CERT we temporarily close the regarding Port on the particular IP.
> If the customer then starts to complain we send him a copy of the
> report and point out that another violation of our ToS will result in
> a termination of the account without a prior warning and without the
> option of a refund.
>


Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

2020-07-10 Thread Richard Clayton

>In message <20b290b5003cafb91745b7db6d31c...@fos-vpn.org>, info@fos-
>vpn.org writes

   [various message about abuse issues around VPNs without logging]

In message , Richard Clayton
 writes

>I can understand the attractions to you of that business model.

List readers may be interested in what I found when I decided to have a
look at the "fos-vpn" website (I find that it is invariably interesting
to see what people actually publish in T etc)

http://www.fos-vpn.org  redirects to torservers.net (where there is lots
to read, so anyone interested can have a look).

However https://www.fos-vpn.org does not redirect to the same website!
(easy mistake to make) instead it serves up the website codevest.sh
(which appears also to be known as codevest.to).

There's not a whole lot on the codevest website to explain what it is
about, however some Googling will reveal that it is a licensing system
widely advertised on HackForums (a well-known gathering place for all
sorts of hackers, both good and bad ... you may have heard of it as the
place where the Mirai source code was first published).

I leave it to the reader to explore HackForums, but to save you a bit of
time the PaloAltoNetworks Unit42 people had this to say about codevest
in October 2019, in their review (if that's the right word) of
"Blackremote" an expensive RAT (remote access trojan) being sold by a
Swedish actor:

Blackremote utilizes the third-party "CodeVEST" licensing system,
also peddled on underground forums. The licensing system validates
by connecting to codevest[.]sh. "CodeVEST" seems to take the place
of "Netseal" as a registration service used by commodity malware.
The author of "Netseal", Taylor Huddleston, was charged in 2017 for
that operation together with the sale of his own commodity malware,
"Nanocore RAT." The same person who offers the "Codevest" licensing
service, also profits from a crypting service "Cyber Seal". This
highlights the role in the commodity malware ecosystem of not only
the malware sellers, but also service providers such as the
licensing services they use, and the crypting services they purchase
to avoid detection of the malware that they build.

I found that fascinating, but cannot vouch for its accuracy except to
say that I have a high regard for Unit42.

-- 
richard   Richard Clayton

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755


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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

2020-07-10 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
So you're ignoring abuse reports from other network operators? 

Or do you mean that you view reports from a CERT as being the only type of 
report you'll take seriously?


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On 10/07/2020, 11:04, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of i...@fos-vpn.org" 
 wrote:

To answer your last question: If we receive a valid abuse report i.e. 
from a CERT we temporarily close the regarding Port on the particular 
IP.
If the customer then starts to complain we send him a copy of the report 
and point out that another violation of our ToS will result in a 
termination of the account without a prior warning and without the 
option of a refund.




Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

2020-07-10 Thread Richard Clayton
In message <20b290b5003cafb91745b7db6d31c...@fos-vpn.org>, info@fos-
vpn.org writes

>To answer your last question: If we receive a valid abuse report i.e. 
>from a CERT we temporarily close the regarding Port on the particular 
>IP.

For clarity (and I appreciate that English is probably not your first
language...)   do you mean "i.e." (the only abuse reports you consider
to be valid are from CERTs) or did you actually mean "e.g." (an example
of the sort of entity that sends valid abuse reports).

Also .. by "close the regarding Port"  do I take it that you mean that
you block outgoing traffic (of a particular type) to a particular IP or
do you mean you block all outgoing traffic (for example, all tcp/25) ?

>If the customer then starts to complain we send him a copy of the report 
>and point out that another violation of our ToS will result in a 
>termination of the account without a prior warning and without the 
>option of a refund.

Since, as I understand it, you keep no record of what customers do, you
are effectively describing a system for preventing complaints from
customers  (viz: a customer who reports to you on two occasions that
their activity has been the subject of a valid abuse complaint will be
terminated).

I can understand the attractions to you of that business model.

-- 
richard   Richard Clayton

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary 
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin 11 Nov 1755


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[anti-abuse-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Help to Understand Secure Email Around the Globe

2020-07-10 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
Dear colleagues,

Olamide Omolola and Tobias Fiebig are studying the degree to which email
systems are configured securely. And they need your help: they want to
receive emails from as many different mail providers around the world as
possible.

You can find more details in this RIPE Labs article:

https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/help-to-understand-secure-email-around-the-globe

Kind regards,
Mirjam Kühne
RIPE Labs Editor



Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

2020-07-10 Thread info
To answer your last question: If we receive a valid abuse report i.e. 
from a CERT we temporarily close the regarding Port on the particular 
IP.
If the customer then starts to complain we send him a copy of the report 
and point out that another violation of our ToS will result in a 
termination of the account without a prior warning and without the 
option of a refund.




Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

2020-07-10 Thread info

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