Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

2021-10-18 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg 

Hi All

Michele, I think this is a great idea. It would probably make sense to 
liaise with https://www.m3aawg.org/ and FIRST (tha latter would be me 
;-) and I can broker an intro to the M3AAWG peoples.
Not also, that FIRST has a "DNS Abuse SIG", that focuses on domain 
related abuse, but in a wide sense. I'm sure that work could be extended 
to cover IP abuse.


And before we start our usual skirmishes: The fist step the group did 
was to come up with a taxonomy, so that we all speak of the same. A 
second step will then be suggestions on how to mitigate this.
If we feel something like this would be of value for "IP abuse" I'm 
happy to help set up a FIRST SIG, so we cover the world, and not just 
RIPE. But irrespective of this, I think some training courses would be 
awesome.


I'd be super happy to help.

Best
Serge

On 18/10/2021 18:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg wrote:

Brian

I missed earlier emails about this.

I think it would be beneficial for a lot of LIRs to get some basic 
training.


Anything that improves the landscape should be encouraged and welcomed!

 1. Would training, as described, be of interest to you?

Potentially for new staff if the materials were available ie. As a resource

 2. Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know
of/work with?

I don’t know of any specifically, but that’s down to my role.

3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would 
be of interest?


A lot of hosting providers aren’t LIRs, but are getting IP space from 
LIRs. Maybe providing materials that LIRs could share with their clients 
would help? There  seems to be a lot of ignorance out there.


4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?
I don’t have time to produce materials but I’d be happy to review same.

Regards


Michele

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Colleagues,

As you may remember the WG Co-Chairs have been talking to the NCC about 
some possible Anti-Abuse training in March of this year.


This proposal got very little reaction from the community, so we are 
going to try again to see if there is interest, or if people who are 
already on this mailing list believe that there would be interest from 
other LIRs that they know.


I have re-attached the proposal that Alireza sent to the mailing list in 
March.


Between now and RIPE 83 (when this matter will be on the WG session 
agenda) I would ask the following questions:


1) Would training, as described, be of interest to you?

2) Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know 
of/work with?


3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would 
be of interest?


4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?

After the list discussion and discussion at RIPE 83 the Co-Chairs will 
work with the NCC Learning & Development Team to decide if there is 
enough interest to develop the course and, if there is, how to proceed 
from there.


We really do believe this is something that would be of interest to a 
large number of small LIRs in the region, but that's not something we 
can really determine without the help of the WG


Thank you,

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

Brian Nisbet (he/him)
Service Operations Manager
HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

2021-10-18 Thread Wido Potters 

Hi,

On 15-10-2021 11:14, Brian Nisbet wrote:

1) Would training, as described, be of interest to you?


Yes, we (AS12859) would be interested. I hope it will help new 
colleagues in getting a good understanding of the issues.



2) Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know of/work 
with?


I expect so, yes. Before covid I spoke regularly with LIR's who 
expressed some tips and tricks on the subject would be helpful.



3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would be of 
interest?
I think most people would benefit from practical tips and sharing of 
experiences from other LIR's/providers.



4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?


Yes, I am co-author of an anti-abuse code of conduct and roadmap for 
Dutch providers and registrars. These are both creative commons 
licensed. Last year I helped developing an anti-abuse course by the .NL 
registry for .NL registrars, I have asked whether this content can be 
shared.



Kind regards,
--
 Wido Potters

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

2021-10-18 Thread Gert Doering 
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 04:40:06PM +, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via 
anti-abuse-wg wrote:
>   1.  Would training, as described, be of interest to you?
> Potentially for new staff if the materials were available ie. As a resource

Indeed, that would be helpful.

(And I'm not volunteering to write something - sorry, already too many
competing voluntary projects)

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG

2021-10-18 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg 
Brian

I missed earlier emails about this.

I think it would be beneficial for a lot of LIRs to get some basic training.

Anything that improves the landscape should be encouraged and welcomed!


  1.  Would training, as described, be of interest to you?

Potentially for new staff if the materials were available ie. As a resource



  1.  Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know 
of/work with?

I don’t know of any specifically, but that’s down to my role.

3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would be of 
interest?

A lot of hosting providers aren’t LIRs, but are getting IP space from LIRs. 
Maybe providing materials that LIRs could share with their clients would help? 
There  seems to be a lot of ignorance out there.

4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?
I don’t have time to produce materials but I’d be happy to review same.



Regards

Michele




--
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Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Colocation & Domains
https://www.blacknight.com/
https://blacknight.blog/
Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
---
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Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845


From: anti-abuse-wg  on behalf of Brian Nisbet 

Date: Friday, 15 October 2021 at 10:15
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net 
Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Anti-Abuse Training: Questions for the WG
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sources.

Colleagues,

As you may remember the WG Co-Chairs have been talking to the NCC about some 
possible Anti-Abuse training in March of this year.

This proposal got very little reaction from the community, so we are going to 
try again to see if there is interest, or if people who are already on this 
mailing list believe that there would be interest from other LIRs that they 
know.

I have re-attached the proposal that Alireza sent to the mailing list in March.

Between now and RIPE 83 (when this matter will be on the WG session agenda) I 
would ask the following questions:

1) Would training, as described, be of interest to you?

2) Would training, as described, be of interest to other LIRs you know of/work 
with?

3) If not, would there be other areas of Anti-Abuse training that would be of 
interest?

4) Would you be willing to help write training materials for this course?

After the list discussion and discussion at RIPE 83 the Co-Chairs will work 
with the NCC Learning & Development Team to decide if there is enough interest 
to develop the course and, if there is, how to proceed from there.

We really do believe this is something that would be of interest to a large 
number of small LIRs in the region, but that's not something we can really 
determine without the help of the WG

Thank you,

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

Brian Nisbet (he/him)
Service Operations Manager
HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network
1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland
+35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie
Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270