Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- Dossy Shiobara | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? On 2008.04.08, Mark Aufflick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks clean - but it *really* needs a logo to inject some motion. I agree; I'd like a modern and attractive logo treatment, along with a few key icons for downloads, documentation, community ... You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. attachment: aolserver.png
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
Well, it's certainly compliant :-), but I suspect Mr. Jackson would object. If there's one thing aolserver ain't, it's beta. -- ReC -Original Message- From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan José del Río (Simple Option) Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:44 PM To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. Hey, does this mean I can put graphic artist on my resume ;) (for those serious folks...yes, I am joking) For those who are interested, most of the design of the logo I followed from this tutorial: http://gimp-tutorials.net/node/91 I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.xcf cheers, --bret You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
[AOLSERVER] Compression
So, from my reading, its seems as though that in 4.5, we got on the fly ADP page compression. However, it seems as though there isn't comparable functionality for Tcl files (i.e. ns_return). I know there are some work arounds, but I was just curious why this was not implemented in the core? I took a look at the sources, and it looks fairly straight forward to add this functionality. I see there are three possibilities: 1) modify ns_return to take a flag. The optional connid parameter makes parsing the args a little trickier. Current: ns_return ?connid? status type string (is connid ever used??) New ns_return ?connid? status type string ?gzip? OR ns_return ?connid? status type string ?-gzip boolean? 2) add a new command similar to the workarounds: ns_returnz status type string 3) Expose Ns_ConnSetGzipFlag to the script level. This would be most similar to how the ADP compression is done Or, am I missing something here? Is there already a way to do this (without workarounds)? Thanks, --brett p.s. I'd really like on the fly compression for static files as well (yes, I know there are work arounds). You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
I like the color. Not sure if Dossy was serious, but actually thinking about more...some sort of swoosh over the server part..in that color would look nice I think...but I'm biased...I like blue/orange color scheme... - Original Message From: Juan José del Río (Simple Option) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 12:43:57 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
Yes, but: - But Beta seems to attract so many people to certain technologies/software... Even if some people don't like new people, they are somehow needed. We'll die someday. We need someone to take over our tasks. - We can say that it's 1% beta. Sure there's something that still crashes from time to time! If not, let me upload some patches, and you'll see... lol Note: I am half kidding, half serious. - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:52 -0700, Rick Cobb wrote: Well, it's certainly compliant :-), but I suspect Mr. Jackson would object. If there's one thing aolserver ain't, it's beta. -- ReC -Original Message- From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan José del Río (Simple Option) Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:44 PM To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp.. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Compression
On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Brett Schwarz wrote: So, from my reading, its seems as though that in 4.5, we got on the fly ADP page compression. However, it seems as though there isn't comparable functionality for Tcl files (i.e. ns_return). I know there are some work arounds, but I was just curious why this was not implemented in the core? I took a look at the sources, and it looks fairly straight forward to add this functionality. I see there are three possibilities: 1) modify ns_return to take a flag. The optional connid parameter makes parsing the args a little trickier. Current: ns_return ?connid? status type string (is connid ever used??) I use: ns_return_gzipped $conn $x which is this, and works very reliably: proc ns_return_gzipped {conn html} { if {[string first {gzip} [ns_set get [ns_conn headers] {Accept- Encoding}]] == -1} { ns_return $conn 200 text/html $html return TCL_OK } # john 9/21/07 -- found that we need to convert to utf-8, it isn't automatic set zl [ns_zlib gzip [encoding convertto utf-8 $html]] set h [subst {HTTP/1.0 200 OK MIME-Version: 1.0 Server: MoochServer/4.5.0a Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Length: [string length $zl] Content-Encoding: gzip $zl}] ns_write $conn $h return TCL_OK } -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
Juan José del Río (Simple Option) wrote: Yes, but: - But Beta seems to attract so many people to certain technologies/software... Even if some people don't like new people, they are somehow needed. We'll die someday. We need someone to take over our tasks. - We can say that it's 1% beta. Sure there's something that still crashes from time to time! If not, let me upload some patches, and you'll see... lol Note: I am half kidding, half serious. Back in the old days we labeled stuff Under Construction. Beta seems much more formal, snazzy, ... 2.0. http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/12/27/web-2 -J -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
I thought the beta thing was hilarious. Aolserver is one of the most rock-solid pieces of software I've used. But I half-agree with Juan (and I know he's joking!) Jade On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Juan José del Río (Simple Option) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but: - But Beta seems to attract so many people to certain technologies/software... Even if some people don't like new people, they are somehow needed. We'll die someday. We need someone to take over our tasks. - We can say that it's 1% beta. Sure there's something that still crashes from time to time! If not, let me upload some patches, and you'll see... lol Note: I am half kidding, half serious. - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:52 -0700, Rick Cobb wrote: Well, it's certainly compliant :-), but I suspect Mr. Jackson would object. If there's one thing aolserver ain't, it's beta. -- ReC -Original Message- From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan José del Río (Simple Option) Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:44 PM To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp.. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- Jade Rubick Acting Chief Technology Officer United eWay [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel (503)285-4963 fax (707)671-1333 www.UNITEDeWAY.org -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
Something sort of like this, is what I was thinking about: http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver2.jpg Although the orange color kind of changed when it was converted to jpg...it was originally more like what Juan had... - Original Message From: Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:58:01 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com I like the color. Not sure if Dossy was serious, but actually thinking about more...some sort of swoosh over the server part..in that color would look nice I think...but I'm biased...I like blue/orange color scheme... - Original Message From: Juan José del Río (Simple Option) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 12:43:57 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Compression
Hey John, I use something similar...in fact I think I stole it from an older post from you, IIRC. However, I guess my point was, that the mechanism is all there in 4.5. The *only* thing that is needed for ns_return's to return compressed data is to set a flag (via Ns_ConnSetGzipFlag)...that's it. It's seems like a shame to me to let that go to waste... Thanks, --brett - Original Message From: John Buckman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 2:59:44 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Compression On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Brett Schwarz wrote: So, from my reading, its seems as though that in 4.5, we got on the fly ADP page compression. However, it seems as though there isn't comparable functionality for Tcl files (i.e. ns_return). I know there are some work arounds, but I was just curious why this was not implemented in the core? I took a look at the sources, and it looks fairly straight forward to add this functionality. I see there are three possibilities: 1) modify ns_return to take a flag. The optional connid parameter makes parsing the args a little trickier. Current: ns_return ?connid? status type string (is connid ever used??) I use: ns_return_gzipped $conn $x which is this, and works very reliably: proc ns_return_gzipped {conn html} { if {[string first {gzip} [ns_set get [ns_conn headers] {Accept- Encoding}]] == -1} { ns_return $conn 200 text/html $html return TCL_OK } # john 9/21/07 -- found that we need to convert to utf-8, it isn't automatic set zl [ns_zlib gzip [encoding convertto utf-8 $html]] set h [subst {HTTP/1.0 200 OK MIME-Version: 1.0 Server: MoochServer/4.5.0a Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Length: [string length $zl] Content-Encoding: gzip $zl}] ns_write $conn $h return TCL_OK } -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
On Tuesday 08 April 2008 13:52, Rick Cobb wrote: Well, it's certainly compliant :-), but I suspect Mr. Jackson would object. If there's one thing aolserver ain't, it's beta. Well, at least he has a goal to achieve, and once we attract 'people' who are interested in developing beta grade software, we will surely get there very quickly. A cute logo isn't going to attract the level of developer who would be able to maintain AOLserver, much less provide a useful enhancement. But like I said: why not figure out what needs to be done...first. IMHO, by advertising the stability of the AOLserver API, you will attract users who would otherwise be correctly scared off by constant hacking. Another thing which might attract interest is if our current community members would write a brief application note explaining how they use AOLserver, and why they chose it over other potential platforms. Additionally, we could catalog sites known to run on AOLserver. My guess is that developers who have similar interests and motivations or similar problem solving skills as current community members will be attracted to the community. Given the fact that there have been only a handfull of CVS commits in the last year, I would venture to guess that most community members are happy with the current codebase, and that means that new community members will probably be looking for a mature project which allows them to focus on their own application, at least at first. Then, they may contribute a module which extends AOLserver. A quick look at all the modules in CVS suggests that this is the best way to contribute code, not by hacking on the core. Change for the sake of change will scare off any sane developer, we don't charge for upgrades, please remember this fact. tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
Good one there, Brett. As a suggestion: save it as PNG, that way colours won't change. Also, you can try starting the lines from the L itself, or more to the right than they're now. Or you can make them fade in from the L too... I don't know how to fix it exactly, but that I like the lines is a fact :) Good work :) On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 15:42 -0700, Brett Schwarz wrote: Something sort of like this, is what I was thinking about: http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver2.jpg Although the orange color kind of changed when it was converted to jpgit was originally more like what Juan had... - Original Message From: Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:58:01 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com I like the color. Not sure if Dossy was serious, but actually thinking about more...some sort of swoosh over the server part..in that color would look nice I think...but I'm biased...I like blue/orange color scheme... - Original Message From: Juan José del Río (Simple Option) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 12:43:57 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com What about this?! - Juan José del Río| Comercio online / e-commerce (+34) 616 512 340| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simple Option S.L. Tel: (+34) 951 930 122 Fax: (+34) 951 930 122 http://www.simpleoption.com On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:29 -0400, Dossy Shiobara wrote: On 2008.04.08, Brett Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this together http://www.bschwarz.com/aolserver.jpg with Gimp.. Now, I'm not a graphic's wiz, but I thought I would create something basic that we can start with, as a way to get to the design we want. I would be willing to *try* to make any suggested enhancements, but like I said, I am no graphics designer. Perhaps this will spark some momentum. It's awesome. Very Web 2.0 (gradient, reflection) ... an orange starburst and a swoosh would fully trick it out as a Web 2.0 treatment. Heh. I've used the logo. Can you send me the GIMP .xcf file for it? BTW, are there any legal matters that we need to be concerned with in creating a logo for aolserver? Good question. I really should have a serious conversation with AOL Legal about this issue. I'm hoping that as long as we stay away from the actual AOL logo treatment itself, we'll be okay ... but I'd like to get that in writing. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
On 2008.04.09, Juan José del Río (Simple Option) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a suggestion: save it as PNG, that way colours won't change. And, make sure to keep the original .xcf, so lossless changes can be made. :-) Also, you can try starting the lines from the L itself, or more to the right than they're now. Or you can make them fade in from the L too... I don't know how to fix it exactly, but that I like the lines is a fact :) I don't think the lines should fade in, but they should be staggered to match the slant of the L. I'll grab Brett's .xcf and see if I can make the change I'm talking about. Indeed, great work, Brett. Thanks for taking the initiative with this. -- Dossy Shiobara | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
OK, so I added one more horizontal line (so now there are 4 instead of 3), and added a slight single pixel step, to try and match the slant of the L. http://aolserver.com/images/aolserver.png http://aolserver.com/images/aolserver.xcf I'd like to redo the original .xcf - what font face and size did you use? Colors, etc. (Can you tell _I'm_ not a pixel jockey? I can't tell just from looking at what you did ... heh.) On 2008.04.08, Dossy Shiobara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think the lines should fade in, but they should be staggered to match the slant of the L. I'll grab Brett's .xcf and see if I can make the change I'm talking about. Indeed, great work, Brett. Thanks for taking the initiative with this. -- Dossy Shiobara | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
actually, where I was going with this whole thing was trying to convey speed (meaing aolserver is fast). That's the reason I used italic text, and that's why the lines fade away from the 'L'. Oh well, I guess I didn't do a good enough job conveying that :( BTW, the xcf for the second version is at my website as well: aolserver2.xcf Here are the logos I have so far, with 2 additional based on Juan's commets'... the last 2 are png as well... http://bschwarz.com/aol_logo.html - Original Message From: Dossy Shiobara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 5:24:45 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com On 2008.04.09, Juan José del Río (Simple Option) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a suggestion: save it as PNG, that way colours won't change. And, make sure to keep the original .xcf, so lossless changes can be made. :-) Also, you can try starting the lines from the L itself, or more to the right than they're now. Or you can make them fade in from the L too... I don't know how to fix it exactly, but that I like the lines is a fact :) I don't think the lines should fade in, but they should be staggered to match the slant of the L. I'll grab Brett's .xcf and see if I can make the change I'm talking about. Indeed, great work, Brett. Thanks for taking the initiative with this. -- Dossy Shiobara | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com
Ah, ok...now I know what you meant about following the L...yes, that looks better. darn it...I thought by saving as xcf, Gimp would remember the colors, etc :( I believe I used Arial bold italic for the text. I think I started with the blues in the article I quoted, but ended up making them darker. The colors from the article were 6291c0 and cce6f9. Sorry about that...I should have noted everything...I don't play around with the Gimp much :( - Original Message From: Dossy Shiobara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 5:48:55 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Minor facelift to aolserver.com OK, so I added one more horizontal line (so now there are 4 instead of 3), and added a slight single pixel step, to try and match the slant of the L. http://aolserver.com/images/aolserver.png http://aolserver.com/images/aolserver.xcf I'd like to redo the original .xcf - what font face and size did you use? Colors, etc. (Can you tell _I'm_ not a pixel jockey? I can't tell just from looking at what you did ... heh.) On 2008.04.08, Dossy Shiobara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think the lines should fade in, but they should be staggered to match the slant of the L. I'll grab Brett's .xcf and see if I can make the change I'm talking about. Indeed, great work, Brett. Thanks for taking the initiative with this. -- Dossy Shiobara | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.