Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
I don't think TclSOAP uses tdom, does it? That might explain any speed problems. In addition there is Web Services for Tcl: http://members.cox.net/~gerald.lester/WebServicesForTcl.html I have not used it at all, so I can't offer any opinion...however it does look like it uses tdom. - Original Message From: Rusty Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 8:04:10 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites. I've used TclSoap. I wasn't like, impressed with it's speed but it seems OK. It seems quite behind the times, though, I did extensive modifications trying to get it to work with various WSDL files and in general it does not do a complete job, which is kind of frustrating, especially when integrating with web services that have TONS of data types and commands. It kind of looked like that WSDL implementation just didn't progress past a certain point. I might screw with it some time but at the moment I've got the manual soap definitions done for the apps I need to support, so, it's not that pressing. Bas Scheffers wrote: On 06/05/2008, at 11:44 AM, Tom Jackson wrote: The main thing you need with a mashup is data. Without that, there is nothing to mash. And much of that data is in XML and tdom runs rings around any Java XML implementation, though not sure about the ones in PHP, Perl, etc which are also likely to be C based. (I am currently profiling and optimizing a car rentals aggregator site, which does tons of XML parsing and creating. Its all in Java and its not pretty; sooo slow and with enormous RAM requirements) Has anyone used TclSOAP? And compared it in performance to Java SOAP clients? Bas. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
On Monday 05 May 2008 22:58, Brett Schwarz wrote: I don't think TclSOAP uses tdom, does it? That might explain any speed problems. In addition there is Web Services for Tcl: http://members.cox.net/~gerald.lester/WebServicesForTcl.html I have not used it at all, so I can't offer any opinion...however it does look like it uses tdom. Right Web Services for Tcl requires Tcl 8.5 and tclhttpd, it doesn't work with AOLserver. tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fix for ns_tmpnam under Windows
fixed. -gustaf neumann Titi Alailima schrieb: There is a missing variable declaration in this patch for i, the for-loop index. Anyone want to make this fix and commit it? -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
Bas, In addition there is Web Services for Tcl: http://members.cox.net/~gerald.lester/WebServicesForTcl.html I have not used it at all, so I can't offer any opinion...however it does look like it uses tdom. Right Web Services for Tcl requires Tcl 8.5 and tclhttpd, it doesn't work with AOLserver. Besides, Web Services for Tcl is based upon the TclOO package by Donal K. Fellows which is not (besides other issues) multi-threading/ AOLServer compatible (no serializer etc.) You might want to check out xotcl-soap (xosoap) as well which comes as OpenACS package: see http://alice.wu-wien.ac.at:8000/xorb-doc/ I don't think TclSOAP uses tdom, does it? That might explain any speed problems. Indeed, TclSOAP is built around TclDOM/TclXML and suggests one of the two C-based DOM backends: http://wiki.tcl.tk/9098 Has anyone used TclSOAP? And compared it in performance to Java SOAP clients? I do not have a direct comparison, but probably some rough benchmark: http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/soap_bench/linux_loopback/index.html (the accompanying paper is also a good introductory read) Generally speaking, and according to the benchmark above, Java-based environments (Axis 1.2 at that time) are (across all benchmark types) less performant than c/c++ based ones (gSOAP), by factors of ~7 (latency) and 10-15+ (end-to-end roundtrip, i.e. including de/marshalling, arrays of ints + strings). The picture certainly changed since 2004 because parsing (streaming parsers) and optimisation techniques (differential marshaling) gained momentum in Java-based toolkits, but it shows a tendency. Besides, memory footprint is not considered in the above benchmark which might be even more important than processing time depending on your requirements. We are currently working on a performance evaluation of xotcl-soap. First, tentative results show that xotcl-soap settles in the inbetween the two benchmark ends above, in the lower third of this range. But, again, the test setting is not directly comparable. I will report back if there is interest. Moreover, we work on optimisations (differential marshaling using adp templating, for instance) that might promise speed-ups by a factor of 10 in certain settings. //stefan -- Stefan Sobernig Institute for Information Systems and New Media Vienna University of Economics Augasse 2-6 A - 1090 Vienna `- +43 - 1 - 31336 - 4878 [phone] `- +43 - 1 - 31336 - 746 [fax] `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
- Original Message From: Tom Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Monday, May 5, 2008 11:46:47 PM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites. On Monday 05 May 2008 22:58, Brett Schwarz wrote: I don't think TclSOAP uses tdom, does it? That might explain any speed problems. In addition there is Web Services for Tcl: http://members.cox.net/~gerald.lester/WebServicesForTcl.html I have not used it at all, so I can't offer any opinion...however it does look like it uses tdom. Right Web Services for Tcl requires Tcl 8.5 and tclhttpd, it doesn't work with AOLserver. Tcl 8.5 *or* the _dict (source, windows binary) extension for Tcl 8.4_ I can't imagine that it would take too much to make it work with aolserver...in fact I believe the main author of that package is using aolserver now, but I'm not sure if he has ported this over to aolserver. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
In addition there is Web Services for Tcl: http://members.cox.net/~gerald.lester/WebServicesForTcl.html I have not used it at all, so I can't offer any opinion...however it does look like it uses tdom. Right Web Services for Tcl requires Tcl 8.5 and tclhttpd, it doesn't work with AOLserver. Besides, Web Services for Tcl is based upon the TclOO package by Donal K. Fellows which is not (besides other issues) multi-threading/ AOLServer compatible (no serializer etc.) huh? Where did you get that it is based on TclOO? TclOO isn't even out yet. And where did you get that TclOO is not compatible with aolserver...just curious (I haven't tried it myself within aolserver). It should be thread safe, as far as I'm aware (although I don't believe it is fully implemented yet, so you never know). Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 02:18, Stefan Sobernig wrote: Besides, Web Services for Tcl is based upon the TclOO package by Donal K. Fellows which is not (besides other issues) multi-threading/ AOLServer compatible (no serializer etc.) Web Services for Tcl isn't based on TclOO and it doesn't have any issues with multi-threading. The client works great. I have used it to test all of my WSDL example services. Here is an example of how to use it: http://junom.com/document/windows/TWiST/WS::Client.TXT I think I just used the ActiveTcl version of Tcl8.5. I'm not sure what it means to not have a serializer. Once WS::Client gets the WSDL file, you can create 'stubs' for each operation. Then you just feed it a list (without the element names, just data). A 'dictionary' is returned, which includes the element names (usually this could be fed directly to [array create] for simple structures). The problem with the WS::Server running with AOLserver is that it uses the tclhttpd API for I/O (biggest problem), but also uses many tclhttpd'isms to create web pages for documentation, etc. tWSDL with the TWiST API has a very thin connection to AOLserver. The same services, with the same TWiST configuration file can run under nstclsh, tclsh, tcpserver or even using a shell pipeline. The tclsh version can run using Tcl socket, or using Tcl Threads (recommended). The tcpserver version is great during application development because everything is sourced up from scratch for each request. As a WSDL server, the best feature of tWSDL is that you can define and derive types based upon the XML-Schema definitions, and you can validate documents against the type. Once defined, types are easy to create by feeding the type's 'new' API with a Tcl list (with no element info, just data). I haven't found any other WSDL toolkit which can derive simple types from XML-Schema types or easily create complexTypes where minOccurs 1. With tWSDL a single TWiST 'configuration' file completely defines the web service interface, there is no hand writing WSDL files or hand coding type validation, and your internal API remain independent of the external operation interface. tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 07:17, Tom Jackson wrote: I haven't found any other WSDL toolkit which can derive simple types from XML-Schema types or easily create complexTypes where minOccurs 1. Oops, I meant to say maxOccurs 1. XML-Schema structural type serialization is complicated. To do it correctly you have to know minOccurs, maxOccurs, if the element is nillable, the default value (for tcl, if the default is the empty string), and of course the data being serialized. tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
I don't need it as a server, I need it as a client. You mentioned something a bout being able to use the API to make a client? Rusty Tom Jackson wrote: Following up on my previous post about tWSDL... If you guys are actually using WSDL, please look at tWSDL. It functions very well as a server. But internally you can define/derive types as described in the XML-Schema types/structures standards. Once defined, you can create and validate types (including correct handling of min/maxOccurs, isnull, etc.) tom jackson On Monday 05 May 2008 20:04, Rusty Brooks wrote: I've used TclSoap. I wasn't like, impressed with it's speed but it seems OK. It seems quite behind the times, though, I did extensive modifications trying to get it to work with various WSDL files and in general it does not do a complete job, which is kind of frustrating, especially when integrating with web services that have TONS of data types and commands. It kind of looked like that WSDL implementation just didn't progress past a certain point. I might screw with it some time but at the moment I've got the manual soap definitions done for the apps I need to support, so, it's not that pressing. Bas Scheffers wrote: On 06/05/2008, at 11:44 AM, Tom Jackson wrote: The main thing you need with a mashup is data. Without that, there is nothing to mash. And much of that data is in XML and tdom runs rings around any Java XML implementation, though not sure about the ones in PHP, Perl, etc which are also likely to be C based. (I am currently profiling and optimizing a car rentals aggregator site, which does tons of XML parsing and creating. Its all in Java and its not pretty; sooo slow and with enormous RAM requirements) Has anyone used TclSOAP? And compared it in performance to Java SOAP clients? Bas. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
Besides, Web Services for Tcl is based upon the TclOO package by Donal K. Fellows which is not (besides other issues) multi-threading/ AOLServer compatible (no serializer etc.) huh? Where did you get that it is based on TclOO? TclOO isn't even out yet. My fault. The only and first time I stumbled over Gerald's Web Services for Tcl was in Donal's tcl2007 presentation on TclOO*. Therefore, my misunderstanding ... And where did you get that TclOO is not compatible with aolserver...just curious (I haven't tried it myself within aolserver). It should be thread safe, as far as I'm aware (although I don't believe it is fully implemented yet, so you never know). I'm not sure what it means to not have a serializer. Let me rephrase, it is not said that it is not compatible (nothing to do with thread safety or anything in that direction), I am just saying that it might need some integration work. By serialiser, I am referring to the needed generation of the ns_ictl script in the aolserver driver thread. But, it goes without saying, this is just one option ... * http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2007/proceedings/programmingtechniques/OOforTclFellows.pdf -- Stefan Sobernig Institute for Information Systems and New Media Vienna University of Economics Augasse 2-6 A - 1090 Vienna `- +43 - 1 - 31336 - 4878 [phone] `- +43 - 1 - 31336 - 746 [fax] `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
Rusty, Yes, there is a start of a client, which downloads, and parses a WSDL file. But there are so many poorly defined services, and so many options which you could use in a web service, that it hasn't been a priority to create a generic client. Instead I'm leaning toward redefining an external service using the TWiST API, and with tiny changes (like the URL of the original service), use a TWiST server as a proxy for the external service. In fact, this type of client already exists in TWiST which allows for testing the service via a web interface. ( See the example operations at http://junom.com/ws/mywebservice/ ) The testing interface is just a web page with a simple form. When the form is submitted, the values are translated into a client request, which is POSTed back to the same server (a seperate request). The only change needed for a proxy would be the external URL used for POSTing the request. Slowly this is coming together in the wsclient API (which will be similar to wsreturn ). tom jackson On Tuesday 06 May 2008 07:50, Rusty Brooks wrote: I don't need it as a server, I need it as a client. You mentioned something a bout being able to use the API to make a client? -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 08:22, Stefan Sobernig wrote: Let me rephrase, it is not said that it is not compatible (nothing to do with thread safety or anything in that direction), I am just saying that it might need some integration work. By serialiser, I am referring to the needed generation of the ns_ictl script in the aolserver driver thread. But, it goes without saying, this is just one option ... Well, it would require something more like a major rewrite. It was written for tclhttpd and the tclhttpd API are used for I/O. The service configuration files are written for tclhttpd as well, so those would have to be modified. But, it is a simple piece of software, only a few pages, just very brittle to external details. The client works great! I would recommend it as a first thing to try before investigating anything else. tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
Tom, Let me rephrase, it is not said that it is not compatible (nothing to do with thread safety or anything in that direction), I am just saying that it might need some integration work. By serialiser, I am referring to the needed generation of the ns_ictl script in the aolserver driver thread. But, it goes without saying, this is just one option ... Well, it would require something more like a major rewrite. MY rephrasing on integration relates to TclOO and Brett's: And where did you get that TclOO is not compatible with aolserver...just curious (I haven't tried it myself within aolserver). ... NOT Web Services for Tcl ... just to avoid misunderstandings ... //stefan -- Stefan Sobernig Institute for Information Systems and New Media Vienna University of Economics Augasse 2-6 A - 1090 Vienna `- +43 - 1 - 31336 - 4878 [phone] `- +43 - 1 - 31336 - 746 [fax] `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 09:57, Stefan Sobernig wrote: Tom, Let me rephrase, it is not said that it is not compatible (nothing to do with thread safety or anything in that direction), I am just saying that it might need some integration work. By serialiser, I am referring to the needed generation of the ns_ictl script in the aolserver driver thread. But, it goes without saying, this is just one option ... Well, it would require something more like a major rewrite. MY rephrasing on integration relates to TclOO and Brett's: And where did you get that TclOO is not compatible with aolserver...just curious (I haven't tried it myself within aolserver). ... NOT Web Services for Tcl ... just to avoid misunderstandings ... Hmmm, why would using TclOO or any other Tcl code require doing anything with the driver thread, or require using ns_ictl? I still don't get what a serializer is. Is this one of those object system 'isms? tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
[AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows
Anyone know how to signal nsd in Windows to roll the logs? Any equivalent of kill -HUP? Titi Ala'ilima Lead Architect MedTouch LLC 1100 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 617.621.8670 x309 -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows
Not quite. I get a permission error renaming the old file. I'm running as a service from the local System account. Any ideas why it can't rename the file even though it can create, remove and write to files? Regardless, I was wondering if there was a way from the OS to send the NS_SIGHUP signal. Doesn't look like it if I read the source correctly. Titi Ala'ilima Lead Architect MedTouch LLC 1100 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 617.621.8670 x309 -Original Message- From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Jackson Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:50 PM To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows Does ns_logroll work? http://rmadilo.com/files/nsapi/ns_logroll.html tom jackson On Tuesday 06 May 2008 12:12, Titi Alailima wrote: Anyone know how to signal nsd in Windows to roll the logs? Any equivalent of kill -HUP? Titi Ala'ilima Lead Architect MedTouch LLC 1100 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 617.621.8670 x309 -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Fun, free applications for building personal sites.
Tom, I still don't get what a serializer is. Is this one of those object system 'isms? Well, no ... it is not an *ism in the sense of peculiar feature of an object-based/oriented system. Streaming an in-memory state into a set of characters based on run-time introspection is not a trait of OO. But for OO, take a look at: http://www.riehle.org/computer-science/research/1996/plop-1996-serializer.html Hmmm, why would using TclOO or any other Tcl code require doing anything with the driver thread, or require using ns_ictl? I assume that you are familiar AOLServer blueprinting mechanism? Tcl introspection (info) is used to stream the state of the interpreter in the driver/main thread of AOLServer to the connection/scheduler/... threads (and beyond, if you take Zoran's tclthread extension into account) early in their life-cycle. This happens in init.tcl-_ns_savenamespaces and helpers. So, in AOLServer Tcl's info + _ns_* family of procs + Tcl's eval represent a procedural serializer. But, as Tcl's info cannot introspect on the XOTcl/TclOO object system, these object systems need to provide their own facility to re-create the object graph (objects + relations) in terms of a script. Take a look at generic/aol-xotcl.tcl in the XOTcl source distribution, it amends standard _ns_savenamespace by a call to the xotcl Serializer object. So, unless you don't want to call package req on XOTcl/TclOO in each connection thread interpreter and want your AOLserver OO-Tcl Module available in AOLServer workers, you need to provide a serialiser. Or, you have the nifty feature of ttrace that comes with Naviserver. Either way is a design problem of its own and non-trivial (especially in the OO case). See the enlightening discussing over at naviserver-devel: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00136.html -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows
I think the renaming fails because Windows is picky about not messing with files that are open. Can we close the log file before rolling? Seems like nslog does this for the access log. Just needs to be done similarly in nsd/log.c. That might require copying a bunch of stuff over from nslog.c or putting the common code somewhere else. There's certainly seems to be a lot of redundancy between the two sets of code, a great candidate for streamlining. Titi Ala'ilima Lead Architect MedTouch LLC 1100 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 617.621.8670 x309 -Original Message- From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Titi Alailima Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:18 PM To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows Not quite. I get a permission error renaming the old file. I'm running as a service from the local System account. Any ideas why it can't rename the file even though it can create, remove and write to files? Regardless, I was wondering if there was a way from the OS to send the NS_SIGHUP signal. Doesn't look like it if I read the source correctly. Titi Ala'ilima Lead Architect MedTouch LLC 1100 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 617.621.8670 x309 -Original Message- From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Jackson Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:50 PM To: AOLSERVER@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows Does ns_logroll work? http://rmadilo.com/files/nsapi/ns_logroll.html tom jackson On Tuesday 06 May 2008 12:12, Titi Alailima wrote: Anyone know how to signal nsd in Windows to roll the logs? Any equivalent of kill -HUP? Titi Ala'ilima Lead Architect MedTouch LLC 1100 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 617.621.8670 x309 -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Rolling logs in Windows
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 19:23, Titi Alailima wrote: I think the renaming fails because Windows is picky about not messing with files that are open. Can we close the log file before rolling? Seems like nslog does this for the access log. Just needs to be done similarly in nsd/log.c. That might require copying a bunch of stuff over from nslog.c or putting the common code somewhere else. There's certainly seems to be a lot of redundancy between the two sets of code, a great candidate for streamlining. My guess is that it would be better to keep the two chunks of code distinct. I seem to remember that they are not that similar anyway. (For one, a single nsd can have multiple access.log files, but only one server.log file.) tom jackson -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body of SIGNOFF AOLSERVER in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
