Re: [arch-general] gnome 3.7

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/29/2013 05:54 AM, Kyle wrote:
> There is currently some breakage with GDM in the gnome-unstable
> repository. I was unable to get GNOME 3.8 started. I got the following
> assertion errors in my logs, but I can't begin to decode them.
> 
> Mar 28 20:17:31 pc.kyle.tk gdm-launch-environment][2749]: GLib-CRITICAL:
> g_variant_compare: assertion `!g_variant_is_container (a)' failed
> Mar 28 20:17:31 pc.kyle.tk gdm-launch-environment][2749]: GLib-CRITICAL:
> g_variant_compare: assertion `!g_variant_is_container (a)' failed
> 
> ~Kyle
> http://kyle.tk/
> 

shit happens when packages are not ready.
wait for our notification.

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Re: [arch-general] pacman update with new mesa gives a failed update

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/25/2013 11:11 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I tried to update with pacman -Syu this evening (x86_64) - but the update
> failed with:
> 
> Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
> :: Retrieving packages from extra...
>  mesa-9.1-2-x86_6431.4 MiB   651K/s
> 00:49 [###] 100%
>  mesa-libgl-9.1-2-x86_64   2.2 KiB   622K/s
> 00:00 [###] 100%
>  ati-dri-9.1-2-x86_64 32.8 MiB   692K/s
> 00:49 [###] 100%
>  cairo-1.12.14-3-x86_64  671.8 KiB   748K/s
> 00:01 [###] 100%
>  intel-dri-9.1-2-x86_64  328.8 KiB   739K/s
> 00:00 [###] 100%
>  kdelibs3-3.5.10-16-x86_6413.6 MiB   750K/s
> 00:19 [###] 100%
>  libx11-1.5.0-2-x86_64 2.0 MiB   673K/s
> 00:03 [###] 100%
>  nouveau-dri-9.1-2-x86_64 15.4 MiB   752K/s
> 00:21 [###] 100%
>  svga-dri-9.1-2-x86_64 9.9 MiB   744K/s
> 00:14 [###] 100%
> (9/9) checking package integrity
>[###] 100%
> (9/9) loading package files
>   [###] 100%
> (9/9) checking for file conflicts
>   [###] 100%
> error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
> mesa: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/swrast_dri.so exists in filesystem
> mesa-libgl: /usr/lib/libGL.so exists in filesystem
> mesa-libgl: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 exists in filesystem
> mesa-libgl: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.0 exists in filesystem
> mesa-libgl: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so exists in filesystem
> Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
> 
> Can anyone advise if I need to do any manual changes before trying again?
> 
> Thank you.
> 

pacman -Qo /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/swrast_dri.so
pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libGL.so.1



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Re: [arch-general] Last dbus upgrade in testing busting gnome-online-accounts ?

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/03/2012 07:48 PM, fredbezies wrote:
> I noticed something strange since last dbus upgrade : my online accounts
> keeps on expiring.
> 
> I try to delete and recreate my online account, but after one or two
> minutes, I got a message that "an online account needs attention".
> 
> Got this in my /var/log/everything.log :
> 
> Dec  3 18:41:29 localhost dbus[333]: [system] Reloaded configuration
> Dec  3 18:41:29 localhost dbus-daemon[333]: dbus[333]: [system] Reloaded
> configuration
> Dec  3 18:41:29 localhost dbus[333]: [system] Reloaded configuration
> Dec  3 18:42:02 localhost goa[690]:
> /org/gnome/OnlineAccounts/Accounts/account_1354556510: Setting
> AttentionNeeded to TRUE because EnsureCredentials() failed with:
> Credentials not found in keyring (goa-error-quark, 0): Failed to retrieve
> credentials from the keyring (goa-error-quark, 4) [goadaemon.c:1248,
> ensure_credentials_cb()]
> 
> Kinda related to last dbus update ?!
> 

not related to dbus. see https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32668 and the
upstream bug report.

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Re: [arch-general] Gentoo udev fork w/o systemd

[Ionut Biru]

On 11/19/2012 09:31 PM, Jérôme Bartand wrote:
> I want to bring to your attention that Gentoo is working on a udev fork
> called eudev that will
> 
> - respect the Unix philosophy
> - be POSIX-compliant and get rid of glibcisms
> - have no unnecessary dependencies (systemd, kmod)
> - support separate /usr
> 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2262
> 

I find this link to be more useful:
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30483828.jpg

> with the goal to make it default for Gentoo in the future, along with
> OpenRC. I know from past discussions on this mailing list that not
> everybody in the Arch community is happy with systemd. They are looking for
> contributors and this is an opportunity for cross-community collaboration.
> 
> Regards,
> -J
> 



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Re: [arch-general] LibreOffice 3.6.3-2 in testing is awfully broken.

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On 11/17/2012 12:15 AM, fredbezies wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I noticed that last testing version of LibreOffice simply doesn't
> start. When I try to launch it in terminal, I got this :
> 
> [fred@fredo-arch ~]$ /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: symbol
> lookup error: /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvcllo.so: undefined
> symbol: _ZNK6icu_5014LEFontInstance10getSubFontEPKDsPiiiR11LEErrorCode
> 
> [2]+  Exit 127 libreoffice
> 
> I reported the bug at https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32721 then
> noticed somebody does it before (even if it was in the wrong category)
> 
> => https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32717
> 
> Downgrading packages (both icu and Libreoffice ones) simply kills gdm on 
> start.
> 

gdm is killed because harfbuzz was rebuilt against new icu and harfbuzz
is used by pango, which is used by a lot of libraries from
gnome(cogl->gnome-shell->gdm)

So if you want to downgrade, you should disable testing and do pacman -Suu.

> Any idea to get a working libreoffice ?
> 

> Thanks a lot.
> 
> 
> --
> Frederic Bezies
> fredbez...@gmail.com
> 


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Re: [arch-general] midori-git/webkitgtk3 not using openjdk/icedtea?

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On 11/12/2012 07:00 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> According to:
> 
> http://wiki.xfce.org/midori/faq
> 
> It's reported that midori works with openjdk and icedtea plugin.
> 
> However for some reason on arch (x86-64) midori-git (gtk3 support) +
> webkitgtk3 doesn't grab java at all.  I don't see java applets loading
> on web pages requiring them, and java.com doesn't recognize any java
> installed...
> 
> Is this just me, or is there anyone working with midori-git +
> webkitgtk3 and openjdk+icedtea?
> 

that's fine. webkit doesn't suppot yet out of process plugin and the
java plugin is gtk2 only at this time.

It would support in webkit2 but that's work in progress.


> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Javier.
> 



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Re: [arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?

[Ionut Biru]

On 10/28/2012 07:41 AM, kendell clark wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and
> recieved the following warnings from pacman.
>  warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10)
> warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than core (1.42.5-1)
> warning: gcc: local (4.7.2-2) is newer than core (4.7.2-1)
> warning: gcc-libs: local (4.7.2-2) is newer than core (4.7.2-1)
> warning: glib2: local (2.34.1-1) is newer than core (2.32.4-1)
> warning: glibc: local (2.16.0-5) is newer than core (2.16.0-4)
> warning: hwids: local (20121022-1) is newer than core (20121012-1)
> warning: iproute2: local (3.6.0-2) is newer than core (3.5.1-1)
> warning: iptables: local (1.4.16.2-1) is newer than core (1.4.15-1)
> warning: linux-api-headers: local (3.6.3-1) is newer than core (3.5.5-1)
> warning: perl: local (5.16.1-2) is newer than core (5.16.1-1)
> I don't mean to sound like a noob but I still am, smiles. I've never
> seen this warning message before and as far as I know this isn't
> possible, as I only pull packages from core, community, and multilib. I
> have built some local aur packages, espeak development version, dropbox,
> dropbox daemon, and mangler. THis could be the cause, although I'm not
> sure how to find out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. i'm
> beginning to really love arch, especially without pulseaudio.
> One final note: I have the linux-lts package installed as opposed to the
> latest 3.6.x kernel, as speakup is broken in  kernels later tahn 3.4.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
> 

You disabled testing repository.

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Re: [arch-general] gnome-session won't start [testing + gnome-unstable]

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On 10/17/2012 10:09 AM, Gary van der Merwe wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I tried upgrading to gnome 3.6 using the gnome-unstable + testing repos.
> 
> gdm did not start. So I started xinit manually. From xterm (started by
> xinit,) I tried to run gnome-session. I got this error:
> 
> gnome-session: symbol lookup error: gnome-session: undefined symbol:
> g_spawn_check_exit_status
> 
> 
> I then tried to run metacity. I got this error:
> 
> metacity: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0:
> undefined symbol: g_object_replace_qdata
> 
> 
> Please let me know if there is any more info you would like, or if there
> is any thing I can do to help.
> 
> Thanks for the effort you are putting it to this. I'm looking forward to
> using 3.6
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gary

From what I can see, your problem is related to glib2. Do you have at
least  2.34.0 ?

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Re: [arch-general] [seamonkey] Update is strongly required

[Ionut Biru]

On 09/25/2012 09:57 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
> Ohh, I missed that. Sorry for the noise.
>  Am 25.09.2012 20:01 schrieb "Karol Blazewicz" :
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Christopher Reimer
>>  wrote:
>>> I've already written this to the bugtracker. There I was told to post it
>> here:
>>>
>>> seamonkey is flagged out of date for about 4 weeks now.
>>>
>>> There are several security vulnerabilites in 2.11 -->
>>> http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html
>>>
>>> Could the maintainer update the seamonkey package as soon as possible?
>>
>> I see that it has already been done :-)
>> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?name=seamonkey
>>

this is the last version i'm building.

i'll move this into aur because nobody wants to maintain it.

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Re: [arch-general] IRC channel banned

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On 09/16/2012 12:27 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Am 16.09.2012 11:22, schrieb Arno Gaboury:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just discovered this morning I can't talk on #archlinux anymore. My
>> user (gabx666) is banned!!
>> Never flamed or be rude, never flood, slow activity.
>>
>> Any idea why? How can I solve this?
>>
>> Thank you
> 
> Did you identify do freenode services? Otherwise you won't be able to talk.
> 

We just removed the restriction to avoid such issues for now, until the
services are back online.

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Re: [arch-general] NetworkManager rebuild in testing because of dhcpcd 5.6.2 upgrade ?

[Ionut Biru]

On 09/07/2012 06:52 PM, fredbezies wrote:
> I found and reported a bug - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31453
> which can be fixed by rebuilding networkmanager. Could it be done ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

hard to believe that is the case.

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Re: [arch-general] networkmanager-0.9.6.0-1 - i686

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On 09/01/2012 11:40 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
> It would be really nice to see the i686 version of this package signed
> off and moved into [core] - I am hoping for a fix for a laptop that I
> believe will come with this version - hopefully one of the developers
> with signing powers and hardware to test it can sign it off soon.
> 

nm 0.9.6 is stuck in testing because: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/31115

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Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

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On 08/16/2012 07:59 PM, Jérôme Bartand wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Yesterday I read on Phoronix that Arch devs are planning to switch to
> SystemD, but many users are unhappy with this move. You can see a lot of
> controversy discussion on this list. I have created an online poll to
> determine the will of the community:
> http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=502d2113e4b02c3adb09a939
> 
> Please vote and spread!
> 

with or without this poll, we are continuing with our plan.


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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 4.05-5 does not boot

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On 08/09/2012 01:55 AM, Myra Nelson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dave Reisner  wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM, "Allan McRae"  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/08/12 05:29, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
 Am 08.08.2012 21:25, schrieb Evangelos Foutras:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Tobias Powalowski
>  wrote:
>> It was just a rebuild, with an added optdepend :/
>> Sorry folks, didn't want to break something.
>> I don't have the time now to look at it.
> Seems like a patch was added: avoid-using-ext2_fs.patch.
>
> I took the liberty to remove the package from [testing] until we
> figure out what's broken.
 The patch is from fedora, to be able to build syslinux.
 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/syslinux.git/tree/

>>>
>>> It is needed as the ext2 fs stuff has been removed from the kernel
>> headers.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>
>> Incidentally it also causes ext2 /boot to be unbootable.
> 
> Incidentally it also causes ext2 /boot to be unbootable, without a
> doubt it does.
> 
> Dave's install scripts work great easiest install I've ever done,
> however it won't boot off of ext2 with syslinux.
> 

Why do you want ext2 on /boot? All bootloaders support ext3/4 this days.

> Myra
> 


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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

[Ionut Biru]

On 08/08/2012 01:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 00:10 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Martin Zecher  wrote:
>>> Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with
>>> networkmanagement applet.
>>
>> I didn't put it in testing as I guess it needs some discussion.
>> However, I committed what I have to svn so that everyone can have a
>> look easily, and I uploaded the packages here:
>> .
>>
>> This should work on both systemd and non-systemd systems. It would
>> particularly be interesting to get feedback from someone using
>> networkmanger to see if there are issues with the interaction there.
>>
>> -t
> 
> Hi I'm not running KDE, but Xfce, with
> 
> $ pacman -Qi networkmanager
> Name   : networkmanager
> Version: 0.9.4.0-6
> $ pacman -Qi polkit
> Name   : polkit
> Version: 0.105-1
> 

Do you also have network-manager-applet?
The old polkit console+systemd patch broke the applet not the daemon.


> and I'm nearly Poettering-free, so no PA, no systemd, just some
> libsystemd or so, regarding to dependencies.
> 
> $ sudo pacman -U polkit-0.107-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
> Targets (2): js-1.8.5-3  polkit-0.107-1
> 
> *restart*
> 
> If you receive this mail, then NM still works at the moment with
> 
> $ pacman -Qi polkit
> Name   : polkit
> Version: 0.107-1
> URL: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit
> Licenses   : LGPL
> Groups : None
> Provides   : None
> Depends On : glib2  pam  expat  libsystemd  js
> Optional Deps  : None
> Required By: accountsservice  colord  consolekit  gconf
> networkmanager  polkit-gnome  polkit-qt  rtkit
>  udisks  udisks2  upower
> Conflicts With : None
> Replaces   : policykit
> Installed Size : 1812.00 KiB
> Packager   : Tom Gundersen 
> Architecture   : x86_64
> Build Date : Tue 07 Aug 2012 11:58:36 PM CEST
> Install Date   : Wed 08 Aug 2012 12:20:46 AM CEST
> Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package
> Install Script : Yes
> Description: Application development toolkit for controlling
> system-wide privileges
> 
> Hth,
> Ralf
> 


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Re: [arch-general] OT: Something good happened

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/25/2012 01:27 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> When using Evolution on Xfce the color theme was broken for a long time.
> Some text was unreadable. Today it's fixed :). I already thought about
> switching to LXDE. No need to do so now.
> 

This is magic!

> Thanx,
> Ralf
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Install Scripts

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/22/2012 11:35 PM, Nicholas MIller wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM, v01...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
>> Why don't you want to use `pacman -Ss` for a list of available packages?
>>
>> Since I've yet to try the "new" method of installing, I suppose i could,
> however i was under the impression pacman -Ss required an arguement for
> what you are searching for.
> 
> I usually remove acouple things from base such as Nano and wpa_supplicant (
> desktop is hardwired) which with aif was quite simple since it showed you
> everything.
> 
> 

You can actually run pacman -S base -r /path/to/your/root
then hit n when is asking if you want to install all the packages from
the group and select exactly what you want.

is simple.
> 
> 
>>  2012/7/22 Nicholas MIller 
>>
>>> where you could browse the
>>> avalible packages
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Andrew Trabo
>>


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Re: [arch-general] Install Scripts

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/22/2012 11:19 PM, Nicholas MIller wrote:
> I just looked over the install script wiki page, and was curious if there
> was any plan on adding something similiar to AIF where you could browse the
> avalible packages, I know for me at least during install I may know what i
> need to install but don't think about it until i read it.
> 

pacman -Sg base

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Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox-modules are again busted with new testing kernel

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On 07/20/2012 01:56 PM, fredbezies wrote:
> Well, looks like Ionut Biru forget to rebuild virtualbox modules. Both
> vboxdrv and vboxnetflt cannot be loaded.
> 
> A rebuild of virtualbox-modules fixed it :)
> 

I did not forget, Tobias just doesn't use staging and proper todo lists
to coordinate the rebuilds.

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Re: [arch-general] ConsoleKit replaced by systemd

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On 07/10/2012 08:37 PM, Ray Kohler wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Karol Babioch  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd.
>> Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of
>> things.
>>
>> Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively
>> anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already
>> mentioned in the wiki [2].
>>
>> Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch will
>> follow along with this. I'm running GNOME right now and at least have
>> two dependencies for ConsoleKit: gdm and gnome-session.
>>
>> I couldn't find anything in regard to this issue in the bug tracker, so
>> I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already?
>>
>> I know there have been some discussions about systemd in the past, but
>> are there any definite plans to switch "completely" to systemd at some
>> point in the future? It seems that the package "initscripts-systemd" is
>> more or less on feature parity with "initscripts" already.
>>
>> The reason why I'm asking is that I don't think that this kind of
>> "double tracked" approach we are currently following, will work very
>> well in the long run, especially when systemd is superseding more and
>> more other packages.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong: I'm really glad about the fact that Arch Linux is
>> supporting systemd so well. By no means I want to depreciate the work
>> you guys have done so far. I do absolutely think that we have to provide
>> both solutions in order to provide a smooth upgrade path. But personally
>> I think that at some point we have to make a choice - just for the sake
>> of simplicity. Personally I would choose systemd ;).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Karol Babioch
>>
>> [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/
>> [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit
> 
> ConsoleKit and systemd's logind don't provide the same API, as far as
> I know. So Arch has to wait for the upstreams of these projects (such
> as GNOME)  to re-implement the relevant functionality with logind
> instead of ConsoleKit. It's not just a build-time decision distro
> packagers get to make.
> 

Gnome 3.4 already supports systemd but as well as consolekit. Some
modules have this detection at runtime.

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Re: [arch-general] Glibc 2.16.0-2 in testing killed my system.

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On 07/07/2012 06:27 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Uli Armbruster
>  wrote:
>> Is this caused by the fact that there are two packages with files in /lib ? 
>> How can I solve this problem? Is it ok this time to force the update?
>>
>> I _could_ remove lib32-glibc first, run the update and then reinstall my 
>> lib32 stuff, since I don't have much lib32 stuff installed. But I think for 
>> many people this isn't an option! That's why I'm asking here.
> 
> I hit the same problem myself, and used `pacman -Rdd` to temporarily
> remove lib32-glibc bypassing the dependency checks. After upgrade,
> `pacman -S --asdeps lib32-glibc` to reinstall.
> 
> 

a new update for lib32-glibc exists in  multilib-testing. You don't have
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Re: [arch-general] Glibc 2.16 bad effect on some software ?

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/04/2012 12:13 PM, fredbezies wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I'm used to build every days or every two days mozilla firefox from
> its trunk source code.
> 
> Today, after glibc 2.16 upgrade on testing, after a successful build
> process, I got an error message while trying to package mozilla
> firefox :
> 
> /bin/sh : line 1 : 22172 Segmentation fault
> /home/fred/logs/fox/objdir-fx/dist/bin/run-mozilla.sh
> /home/fred/logs/fox/objdir-fx/browser/installer/../../dist/bin/shlibsign
> -v -i ../../dist/firefox/libsoftokn3.so
> make[3]: * [stage-package] Error 139
> make[2]: * [make-package] Error 2
> make[1]: * [default] Error 2
> make: * [package] Error 2
> 
> Yesterday, with glibc 2.15, all worked well. Any idea ?
> 

I just tried to compile firefox  13.0.1 and worked fine but note that we
are using system nss,nspr and you aren't.

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Re: [arch-general] Custom libexecdir not recommended for gnome

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/03/2012 01:17 AM, Clemens Buchacher wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 11:43:28PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote:
>>
>> I'm using myself pptp plugin from networkmanager and I don't have your
>> issue.
> 
> And you are also using gnome-shell and have configured "Always ask" for
> the password? Note sure if this problem exists only recently, but here
> are the versions I used:
> 

hmm no. it's saved.

> gnome-shell version 3.4.1-3
> networkmanager version 0.9.4.0-6
> networkmanager-pptp version 0.9.4.0
> 
> As I understand it, networkmanager-pptp uses a gnome-shell service which
> in turn calls back a networkmanager-pptp specific password dialog. How
> convoluted. I do not claim to understand all the mechanisms behind it.
> But if you do not see this with the exact same setup, that would be
> stranger still.
> 
>> And fedora is going to ditch /usr/libexec as well so they should fix
>> this properly in the software.
> 
> Good to know. Thanks.
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Re: [arch-general] Custom libexecdir not recommended for gnome

[Ionut Biru]

On 07/01/2012 11:17 PM, Clemens Buchacher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to bring to your attention the discussion surrounding
> gnome-shell/networkmanager bug #679212 (NetworkManager VPN secrets:
> NetworkAgent internal error):
> 
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679212
> 

I'm using myself pptp plugin from networkmanager and I don't have your
issue.

And fedora is going to ditch /usr/libexec as well so they should fix
this properly in the software.

> A fix for this particular bug is under way. The cause for the bug was
> Arch Linux's use of different libexecdirs for gnome-shell and
> networkmanager plugins (/usr/lib/gnome-shell and
> /usr/lib/networkmanager, respectively), instead of the default
> /usr/libexec. This is in accordance with Arch Packaging Standards:
> 
> "Avoid using /usr/libexec/ for anything. Use /usr/lib/${pkgname}/
> instead." [1]
> 
> What is the motivation for this rule? In response to the above bug
> report, a gnome-shell dev says that he "could consider this weird
> libexecdir setting a distribution problem." Since this seems to be an
> unusual setting, I suspect that there might still be many more bugs
> lurking around for which Arch Linux plays beta tester. Indeed, this is
> not the first time that I am having trouble with Arch Linux packages
> using custom installation directories [2].
> 
> Maybe it's not such a big deal and it's just me having some tough luck
> (2 events do not make a good statistic). But expectations upstream seem
> to contradict the Arch Linux rule, so I wanted to bring it up for
> discussion.
> 
> Clemens
> 
> [1] 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards#Package_etiquette
> [2] 
> http://gnu-octave-repository.2306053.n4.nabble.com/geometry-1-4-0-cannot-handle-installation-prefixes-td4463998.html
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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] x264 and ffmpeg rebuild

[Ionut Biru]

On 06/20/2012 06:40 PM, Sergej Pupykin wrote:
> At Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:13:13 +0400,
> Sergej Pupykin  wrote:
>>
>> What do you think about ffmpeg-compat package ?
> 
> I've put it to community-staging and build motion, synfig and
> openscenegraph packages with it.
> 

why did you bother to ask us for opinions if you don't even wait to see
what we have to say.

I disagree with having such package but lets see what others have to say.

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Re: [arch-general] Time for new release?

[Ionut Biru]

On 06/17/2012 10:25 PM, Geoffroy PLANQUART wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I'm currently on a school project and I run a dozen of virtual machines, all 
> running Arch.
> 
> I noticed that every time I set up a new VM, I have to manually run the 
> `pacman-key --init' and `pacman-key --populate archlinux'.
> 
> Wouldn't it be time to set up a new installation release? Thus new users 
> wouldn't have to bother about pacman recent changes, and moreover the basic 
> install would be kept simple, ready to use.
> 
> Geoffroy
> 

Hello,

It is time to release a new iso but right now, AIF installer is not in a
good shape.

Soonish we will have a call for help published and yo will know the
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Re: [arch-general] Virtual Box Update Fails

[Ionut Biru]

On 06/16/2012 11:10 PM, Victor Silva wrote:
> 2012/6/16 Victor Silva 
> 
>>
>>
>> 2012/6/16 Ike Devolder 
>>
>>> Op zaterdag 16 juni 2012 13:36:17 schreef Victor Silva:
 Folks with the last kernel I can no longer build virtualbox,
 here is the error log:
 *Targets (2): virtualbox-4.1.16-1
  virtualbox-modules-4.1.16-2

 Total Installed Size:   66.86 MiB

 Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
 (0/2) checking package integrity   (1/2) checking package
 integrity   (2/2) checking package integrity
 (0/2) loading package files(1/2) loading package
 files(2/2) loading package files
 (0/2) checking for file conflicts  (1/2) checking for file
 conflicts  (2/2) checking for file conflicts
 error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
 virtualbox-modules: /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-ARCH/vboxdrv.ko.gz
>>> exists
 in filesystem
 virtualbox-modules: /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-ARCH/vboxnetadp.ko.gz
 exists in filesystem
 virtualbox-modules: /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-ARCH/vboxnetflt.ko.gz
 exists in filesystem
 virtualbox-modules: /lib/modules/extramodules-3.4-ARCH/vboxpci.ko.gz
>>> exists
 in filesystem
 Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.*

 Can I move those files?

 Regards,
 Victor
>>>
>>> did you build the modules manually before ?
>>>
>>> you could fix your problem by issuing:
>>> pacman -Sf virtualbox-modules
>>>
>>> --Ike
>>>
>> Guys thanks a lot for the insigths your tips did the trick. I could not
>> look on the forums befor as my system got mangled by the last kernel update
>> and just now I was able to get an X server and internet running again.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Victor
>>
> 
> I'm back to the issues:
> 
>  VirtualBox is not currently allowed to access USB devices. You can change
> this by allowing your user to access the 'usbfs' folder and files. Please
> see the user manual for a more detailed explanation.
> 
> Still looking on the manual. Anyone got a quick fix?
> 

add your user to vboxusers group, relogin and that's it.

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Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

[Ionut Biru]

On 06/16/2012 08:46 AM, gt wrote:
> Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the
> following in the dmesg output:
> 
> NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
> NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
> NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
> NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
> NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
> 
> Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver.
> But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual
> console seems to be working fine.
> 
> Anyone else got a similar message in the log?
> 

you have omitted what i the most important. your boot list parameters
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Re: [arch-general] gcc 4.7.1 - any estimate for Arch?

[Ionut Biru]

On 06/16/2012 02:43 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Guys,
> 
>   Just checking to see if anybody has a guestimate on when gcc 4.7.1 might be
> ready for Arch? I have an infinite loop issue with the Trinity builds in 4.7
> that is reportedly corrected on Fedora 17 with the latest gcc. 4.7.1 was 
> release
> upstream yesterday. Just checking on whether there are any hurdles to get over
> before we see it in Arch. Thanks.
> 

OMFG. Arch is not rolling anymore.

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Re: [arch-general] Enable crashreporter in firefox

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On 06/09/2012 09:21 PM, n...@troglodyte.be wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I wondered why does the crashreporter feature is disabled for the official
> firefox package and if I could ask to re-enable it or must I compile it for my
> own ?
> 

is it useless, we strip all our packages for debug symbols.


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Re: [arch-general] Pacman keys

[Ionut Biru]

On 06/04/2012 10:36 PM, Guillermo Leira wrote:
> For the past six months, pacman's package verification features were turned
> off by default while we were figuring out the details of our public-key
> infrastructure.
> 
> They have finally been enabled in pacman-4.0.3-2; when you upgrade, you will
> be prompted to run:
> 
> 
> pacman-key --init
> 
> pacman-key --populate archlinux
> 
> _
> 
> Hello!
> 
> Is it possible to run this commands remotely (ssh)? I have tried in
> different machines, and all of them seem to hang after saying
> 
> "gpg: Generating pacman keychain master key..."
> 
> Well, it is not hanged, after almost 30 minutes I can stop it with CTRL-C,
> and get a
> 
> "gpg: signal interrupt caught ... exiting"
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Guillermo Leira
> 
> 


create entropy, start copying some files, do a backup, do cat /dev/sda
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Re: [arch-general] Switching back to udisk1

[Ionut Biru]

On 05/04/2012 12:46 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Hi, all
> 
Hi,

> "http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/";
> 
> I answered yes to the switch to udisks2 and now the mount point only
> shows for a split second in Nautilus. The device still shows but now

I'm a bit confused. Where did you answer yes ? I'm just asking because I
did not replaced anything with udisks2.

> I've lost unmount access via sudo too, my scripts clean up on

Here I'm again confused. Nautilus doesn't require sudo to mount or
umount partitions. If you session is authorized in the right way to
consolekit and a polkit agent is present, everything works out of the box.

Note that it might require root password or your user password(if your
username is in wheel group)

> disconnect so it's not an immediate game stopper but is not right
> either. I liked the fact it showed exactly where the device was
> mounted even though it's always /media/usb[0-100].
> 
> How easy is it to switch back to udisks1 and what problems can people
> see for me going forward, if I do?

Overall, is a miss-configured system.

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.2.12-1

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/19/2012 10:17 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

Hi guys,
please signoff 3.2.12 series for both arches.
package is not in testing, please grab it from here:
http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/

This will move to [core] directly, because 3.3 is in [testing].

greetings
tpowa


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Re: [arch-general] Why has the version numbering of gnome-desktop package changed?

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/20/2012 06:55 PM, Guillermo Leira wrote:

 "extra/gnome-desktop   3.2.1-1   -> 1:3.2.1-1"

 It is just a typo or the change was on purpose.

 Hector

>>>
>>> the number before  : is epoch. Is used to force a downgrade. I had to
>>> do this because accidentally I pushed into [extra] gnome-desktop
>>> 3.3.92 and noticed only after 40 minutes.
>>>
>>> --
> 
> Is this epoch number going to be there forever?
> 

yes :(

> Regards,
> 
> Guillermo Leira
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Why has the version numbering of gnome-desktop package changed?

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/20/2012 03:15 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> Hi,
> I find weird the new version of gnome-desktop my system wants me to upgrade:
> 
> "extra/gnome-desktop   3.2.1-1   -> 1:3.2.1-1"
> 
> It is just a typo or the change was on purpose.
> 
> Hector
> 

the number before  : is epoch. Is used to force a downgrade. I had to do
this because accidentally I pushed into [extra] gnome-desktop 3.3.92 and
noticed only after 40 minutes.

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Re: [arch-general] mach64 "undefined symbol: xf86MapDomainMemory" fix

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/19/2012 05:41 AM, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
> 
> Anyone using the xf86-video-mach64 package who has had their X server
> fail after updating to xorg-server 1.12, reporting
> "undefined symbol: xf86MapDomainMemory", you can get it working again
> by applying the following patch (I've inlined it because I don't know
> if the mailing list accepts attachments).  This is an upstream issue
> fixed in revision control, so there's no point opening a bug report.
> It will be resolved when a new release of xf86-video-mach64 becomes available.
> 

report a bug report.

> --- src/atividmem.c.orig2012-03-18 23:01:56.666029002 -0400
> +++ src/atividmem.c 2012-03-18 23:03:28.809154407 -0400
> @@ -84,7 +84,11 @@
>  if (!pATI->pBank)
>  return;
>  
> +#ifndef XSERVER_LIBPCIACCESS
>  xf86UnMapVidMem(iScreen, pATI->pBank, 0x0001U);
> +#else
> +(void) pci_device_unmap_legacy(pATI->PCIInfo, pATI->pBank, 0x0001U);
> +#endif
>  
>  pATI->pBank = NULL;
>  }
> @@ -219,9 +223,14 @@
>   * No relocation, resizing, caching or write-combining of this
>   * aperture is supported.  Hence, the hard-coded values here...
>   */
> -pATI->pBank = xf86MapDomainMemory(iScreen, VIDMEM_MMIO_32BIT,
> -Tag, 0x000AU, 0x0001U);
> -
> +#ifndef XSERVER_LIBPCIACCESS
> +pATI->pBank = xf86MapDomainMemory(iScreen, VIDMEM_MMIO_32BIT,
> +  Tag, 0x000AU, 0x0001U);
> +#else
> +(void) pci_device_map_legacy(Tag, 0x000AU, 0x0001U,
> + PCI_DEV_MAP_FLAG_WRITABLE,
> + &pATI->pBank);
> +#endif
>  if (!pATI->pBank)
>  return FALSE;
>  
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] A Couple of Questions about files under etc which owned by no package

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/16/2012 10:23 AM, 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) wrote:

> error: No package owns /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt

this file is generated by ca-certificates at installation. You don't
want to delete this file since all packages relaying will have a broken
ssl verification.


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Re: [arch-general] vbox - X won't start -> no screens -> "vboxvideo" (module requirement mismatch, 0)

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/13/2012 12:37 AM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
> ma, 2012-03-12 kello 17:18 -0500, David C. Rankin kirjoitti:
>>I have vboxvideo.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/, so I'm a bit 
>> stumped 
>> on the mismatch. Does this mean I have to install another version of 
>> virtualbox or what?
> 
> I would say you need to recompile the virtualbox package, so that the
> driver gets built for version Xorg 1.12, instead of 1.11. Then just
> install the compiled virtualbox-archlinux-additions package.
> You might want to read this.
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ABS_-_The_Arch_Build_System
> 
> 

vboc additions do not work with x-server 1.12

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Re: [arch-general] sane - 'sane-config --libs' returns NON library information causing some CMake builds to fail - bug or feature?

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/07/2012 10:16 PM, Ionut Biru wrote:
> On 03/07/2012 09:52 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>>   Ran into a big problem with sane 1.0.22-6 causing builds to fail due to the
>> return of 'sane-config --libs' returning non-library flags which results in
>> CMake botching the link config. From the sane-config man page:
>>
>> --libs  Print the additional libraries that are necessary to link a SANE
>> frontend to libsane.
>>
>>   Currently, on arch, 'sane-config --libs' returns:
>>
>> 10:51 providence:~/bld/david> sane-config --libs
>> -lsane  -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu 
>> -L/usr/lib
>> -lnetsnmp -lcrypto -lm -ldl -lv4l1   -lm -ltiff -ljpeg  -lgphoto2 
>> -lgphoto2_port
>> -lm -lexif -lusb -lavahi-common -lavahi-client-lusb
>>
> 
> You should open a bug report than sending this on mailing list.
> 


the idea is that net-snmp includes wrong stuff into libs and that's why
they ended up in sane

$ net-snmp-config --libs

-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu -L/usr/lib
-lnetsnmp -lcrypto -lm


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Re: [arch-general] sane - 'sane-config --libs' returns NON library information causing some CMake builds to fail - bug or feature?

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/07/2012 09:52 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Guys,
> 
>   Ran into a big problem with sane 1.0.22-6 causing builds to fail due to the
> return of 'sane-config --libs' returning non-library flags which results in
> CMake botching the link config. From the sane-config man page:
> 
> --libs  Print the additional libraries that are necessary to link a SANE
> frontend to libsane.
> 
>   Currently, on arch, 'sane-config --libs' returns:
> 
> 10:51 providence:~/bld/david> sane-config --libs
> -lsane  -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu -L/usr/lib
> -lnetsnmp -lcrypto -lm -ldl -lv4l1   -lm -ltiff -ljpeg  -lgphoto2 
> -lgphoto2_port
> -lm -lexif -lusb -lavahi-common -lavahi-client-lusb
> 

You should open a bug report than sending this on mailing list.

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Re: [arch-general] secure package signing related websites

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/04/2012 12:22 PM, Christian Hesse wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> (As I am not allowed to post to arch-dev-public resending it here.)
> 
> ok, not really related to the keyring package, but it came to my mind when
> installing it and while signing the key:
> 
> I think it makes sense to not allow pages related to package signing being
> delivered via http. Instead automatically redirect to https to avoid man in
> the middle attacks. First site that comes to my mind:
> https://www.archlinux.org/master-keys/

open a feature request and tag it with {archweb}

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Re: [arch-general] Xulrunner as makedepend while eclipse is installed

[Ionut Biru]

On 03/02/2012 12:01 PM, Alexandre Ferrando wrote:
> Because of [ 0 ] now eclipse and xulrunner packages conflict.  I
> maintain two AUR packages [ 1 ] that need xulrunner at build time and
> I also have installed eclipse.
> 
> I know building that packages in a clean chroot can be a solution but
> I'm afraid that is not what I can assume they will do about all users
> of the mentioned packages.
> 
> Any idea of what could be done?
> 
> [ 0 ] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28724
> [ 1 ] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=firetray-svn&do_Search=Go

I don't see how can i solve this problem other than having conflicts.


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Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

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On 02/26/2012 12:01 PM, Jesse Jaara wrote:
> I bet you have '5' at the end of your kernel commandline.

or he has both 3 and 5 enabled in inittab :D

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Re: [arch-general] Ways to power on broadcom bcm4311 wireless adaptor without booting into windows

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/25/2012 03:41 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:36 PM, mercator  wrote:
>> And thank you Tom. I tried pressing my wifi switch when in BIOS. But it is
>> in a touch panel, so I cannot switch it on manually. And I wonder whether
>> your wifi switch is in a touch panel or a seperate button? Thanks!
> 
> Not quite sure what you mean by "touch panel", I guess mine is not
> though. It is a Fn+ combination.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom

don't forget that you need b43-firmware from aur as well.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] broken PKGDEST?

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/14/2012 04:13 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure what you want to do... Are you trying to release to a
>> architecture that isn't specified in the PKGBUILD's "arch" array? Or
>> does commitpkg fail to upload an architecture you actually specified?
>>
>> Just to be sure, commitpkg currently behaves as follows:
>>
>> 1. Iterates over all architectures that you specified in your PKGBUILD
>>(unless you use "$commit_arch").
>>
>> 2. Searches for package files for each of these architectures (and it
>>looks in "$PKGDEST" if that is used). If it cannot find a package
>>file for one architecture, it displays something like "Skipping
>>$_pkgname-$fullver-$_arch: failed to locate package file" and skips
>>that architecture.
>>
>> 3. Searches for signature files, bails out if one of them cannot be
>>found or is invalid.
>>
>> 4. archreleases to all remaining architectures.
>>
>> 5. Uploads package and signature files.
>>
>> If it doesn't behave like that for you, you should probably file a
>> devtools bug. If it behaves like that and you need another feature, file
>> a feature request :)
>>
> All worked fine till last devtools update I think.
> Everything is in the directory so there is no reason for testingpkg to
> bail out that the arch is not there.
> I had to call each chroot to get everything done, before it was just
> working from one chroot for both arches.
> 
> This is imho a bug somewhere.
> greetings
> tpowa
> 

i don't quite understand your workflow. can you describe them in simple
steps and point where is failing and how?

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Re: [arch-general] [mirrorlist] Remove ftp mirrors from the default list

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/14/2012 07:31 AM, Abdul Halim Mat Ali wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Abdul Halim Mat Ali
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> gt. None is as fast as my country mirror.
>> I have already inform mirror-ad...@oss.eznetsols.org.
>> Hopefully, they will do something.
>> Meanwhile, Arch-devs, kindly do not push the mirror list to remove the FTP
>> mirrors so soon. :-)
>>
>> Regards.
>> Halim
>>
> BTW, Arch-devs. I wonder how does the mirror admin contact you directly on
> the mirrorlist issue?

we have a arch-mirrors mailing list

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Re: [arch-general] ffmpeg and libav

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/11/2012 09:26 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote:
> I am not part of the libav team, but I know many developers and I
> followed the story
> of the fork.
> I then also noticed that my beloved arch is still using ffmpeg and libav
> is not even in
> the official repository (but only in AUR).
> 
> Is there a reason for that?
> 
because nothing in our repositories requires libav

>  There are quite a few good reasons to switch over and many already did:
>   - debian unstable
> (http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2011-December/023070.html)
> 

the inclusion in debian is questionable and I don't want to open the
pandora box and start a long and boring discussion about this.

see my point 1).


>   - vlc
> (http://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/vlc-devel/2011-August/081317.html)
>   - gstreamer (https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/26497)
> 
> (And I'm quite sure also gentoo and Ubuntu but I don't find a link).
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Can't rebuild audiofile 3.2 from PKGBUILD?

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/07/2012 10:53 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
> tiistai, 7. helmikuuta 2012 14:48:23 David C. Rankin kirjoitti:
> 
>> /usr/bin/ld: power.o: undefined reference to symbol 'log10@@GLIBC_2.0'
>> /usr/bin/ld: note: 'log10@@GLIBC_2.0' is defined in DSO /lib/libm.so.6 so
>> try adding it to the linker command line
> These probles can be solved by adding -lm to static Makefile
> or
> 
> LIBS="-lm" ./configure -blah -blah -blah
> 
> in case of autoconf generated Makefiles...
> dunno how to do it on cmake projects

already has such thing.

examples/Makefile.am:power_LDADD = $(LIBAUDIOFILE) -lm
examples/Makefile.in:power_LDADD = $(LIBAUDIOFILE) -lm

No idea what does he do in his system :)

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Re: [arch-general] Google earth

[Ionut Biru]

On 02/01/2012 11:11 PM, P Nikolic wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 Feb 2012 23:03:04 Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote:
>> keskiviikko, 1. helmikuuta 2012 20:55:36 P Nikolic kirjoitti:
>>> driver to get Google earth to behave or can i  tell pacman to deinstall
>>> the
>>> libgl and install the nvidia-utils  (or are the nvidia-utils for the
>>> Nvidia
>>> binary driver in which casse the answer is pre determined)
>>
>> nvidia-utils is the user space part of Nvidia's binary blob
>> nvidia pkg provides the kernel module
> 
> Ok  ..
> 
> So all i got to do now is determine whether i need to switch to the Nvidia 
> binary or stay with  the  nouveau to get google earth working
> 
> Pete .
> 

install lib32-nouveau-dri then

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Re: [arch-general] Sudo Vulnerability

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/31/2012 06:37 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> 
> http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/alerts/sudo_debug.html
> 
> Is sudo on arch built with?
> 
> -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
> 

yes it is. we also have the version that is supposed to have the
vulnerability fixed.

> I couldn't find it in makepkg.conf anyway?
> 

maybe you didn't merge makepkg.conf.pacnew.



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Re: [arch-general] Updates

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/31/2012 11:38 AM, Myra Nelson wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 03:13, Ionut Biru  wrote:
> 
>> On 01/31/2012 10:10 AM, Allan McRae wrote:
>>> Just reinstalling them would be enough...This is an issue with
>>> running the install scripts and the order in which the packages are
>>> installed.  I believe that this is being looked into.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>
>> exactly, it happens because librsvg wasn't installed before gdk-pixbuf2
>> and now is fixed.
>>
>> you don't have to rebuild anything from svn, just call
>> gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache as root.
>>
>> --
>> Ionuț
>>
>>
> Thanks for the info. There are many things I still don't know. I figured by
> rebuilding them it would tell me if something was wrong on my machine.
> Another reason for me not to file a bug report. The problem was between the
> keyboard and the chair and I don't think the devs can fix that one.
> 
> Myra
> 


in fact, i cannot fix this issue. eventually one of it will throw and
error because both librsvg and gdk-pixbuf2 run gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
and we don't have hook support to run it at the end.

the good news is that  nothing is broken and you don't have to run
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Re: [arch-general] Updates

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/31/2012 10:10 AM, Allan McRae wrote:
> On 31/01/12 17:48, Myra Nelson wrote:
>> I suppose this should go to the bug tracker, however I'll do it here first.
>> It seems a bit much to file a pair of bugs for.
>>
>> During my updates this evening the libpng/libtiff rebuild bit.
>>
>> ( 7/85) upgrading gdk-pixbuf2
>>
>>  
>> []
>> 100%
>> g_module_open() failed for
>> /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so:
>> libpng14.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> (29/85) upgrading libwmf
>>
>> []
>> 100%
>> g_module_open() failed for
>> /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-svg.so:
>> libpng14.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>>
>> I got the pkgbuilds from the svn repos, rebuilt the packages, and
>> everything worked fine.
>>
> 
> Just reinstalling them would be enough...This is an issue with
> running the install scripts and the order in which the packages are
> installed.  I believe that this is being looked into.
> 
> Allan

exactly, it happens because librsvg wasn't installed before gdk-pixbuf2
and now is fixed.

you don't have to rebuild anything from svn, just call
gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache as root.

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[arch-general] the big rebuild - libpng/libtiff in testing

[Ionut Biru]

Here are couples of instructions about dealing with broken packages.

As usually, fully update your system before reporting bugs and don't
forget about enabling community-testing along with multilib-testing(if
necessary)

What to do when one of your favorite application returns:

libpng14.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

do

$ LD_DEBUG=files yourapp > yourapp.log 2>&1
$ grep libpng14.so.14 yourapp.log
$ pacman -Qo /path/to/soname/that/links/to/libpng14.so.14

If is not from the repo, rebuild it yourself, otherwise, report it on
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Re: [arch-general] FS#28008 - Bypass screensaver/locker program on xorg 1.11 and up

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/20/2012 01:32 AM, David J. Haines wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Karol Blazewicz
>  wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:28 AM, David J. Haines  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Karol Blazewicz
>>>  wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Dmitry Korzhevin
  wrote:
> ctrl+atl+*(on num lock keyboard) confirmed and work in arch linux.

 On a fully updated system?
 http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2012-January/024298.html
>>>
>>> It works on mine as well. Fully updated.
>>
>> Just to make sure: are you running xkeyboard-config 2.4.1-3?
> 
> Yep.
> 
> David J. Haines
> dhai...@gmail.com

have you restarted X since the update?

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Re: [arch-general] gnome-shell 3.2.2-1's problem?

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/19/2012 08:24 AM, fredbezies wrote:
> 2012/1/19 朱格宏 
> 
>> today,i upgrade gnome-shell to 3.2.2-1,but i found notify tray of bottom
>> doesn't work.
>> e.g:
>> open pidgin or deluge will add icon to notify tray and i can click it to
>> activate app,
>> but it does't work now when i upgrade gnome-shell and i close these
>> app,the notify tray can't delete icons in tray.
>> can i fix it?
>>
> 
> See this thread :
> 
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=133814
> 
> And bug reported : https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664138
> 
> For now, downgrading gnome-shell. Too bad :(
> 

I was hoping for a fast fix but that didn't happen.

Until then, I reverted the bad commit.

Happy gnome-shelling :P

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Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-nv question

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/15/2012 08:32 AM, Don Juan wrote:
> Does anyone know how to control the nvidia fan when using this driver?
> Its the only thing I am not able to figure out and my video card starts
> getting really hot after a bit. I have tried sensors and it does not
> detect anything(fan related). I also did the pci prog, cant remember the
> name off hand not on my arch box right now. I know the CPU fans are GPIO
> fans, does that mean the nvidia one is as well and I can not control it?
> Keeping it on a cooling pad keeps things cool enough, but I would really
> prefer to keep using this driver for the time being with all the Xorg
> issues with the proprietary drivers, and I honestly think the nouveau
> ones are worse than the proprietary, NV has never let me down minus the
> heat issue on this one laptop.
> 
> Card: GeForce 360m
> 
> Thanks for your time

don't use xf86-video-nv, use xf86-video-nouveau + nouveau-dri for 3d

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Signoff report for [testing]

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/12/2012 05:19 PM, José Ramón García wrote:
> On 01/12/2012 03:07 AM, Arch Website Notification wrote:
>>
>> * 4 known bad packages
>>
> What does this mean? What is a 'bad' package? Why doesn't the sign-off
> report say which packages are 'bad'? As a user of [testing] this has
> been bugging me, because I don't want to install 'bad' packages.

open a feature request.

those packages are not bad in the sense that you will end up with a non
booting system or data loses.

they have minor issues, like a missing module from kernel

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Re: [arch-general] Gmime 2.6 ?

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/08/2012 05:47 PM, fredbezies wrote:
> 2012/1/8 Ionut Biru 
> 
>> On 01/08/2012 03:55 PM, fredbezies wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> In order to build pan-git (and next version of pan2), gmime 2.6.x is
>>> needed. Any hope to see it updated ?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> Is on my todo
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
> Ok, thanks. I made an AUR package until you provide an official package ;)
> 

the plan is to provide a gmime24 if packages that require gmime does not
have support for 2.6

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Re: [arch-general] Gmime 2.6 ?

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/08/2012 03:55 PM, fredbezies wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> In order to build pan-git (and next version of pan2), gmime 2.6.x is
> needed. Any hope to see it updated ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Is on my todo

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Re: [arch-general] 3 errors not sure of .

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/07/2012 05:57 PM, Peter Lewis wrote:
> On Saturday 07 Jan 2012 16:14:46 Ionut Biru wrote:
>> we don't have any packages with capital letters in name. that's a rule
> 
> % pacman -Slq core extra community |grep "[A-Z]"
> libreoffice-ca-XV
> libreoffice-en-GB
> libreoffice-en-US
> libreoffice-en-ZA
> libreoffice-pa-IN
> libreoffice-pt-BR
> libreoffice-sa-IN
> libreoffice-sw-TZ
> libreoffice-zh-CN
> libreoffice-zh-TW
> 
> :-p


damn, open a bug report :D

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Re: [arch-general] 3 errors not sure of .

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/07/2012 03:55 PM, Peter Nikolic wrote:
> Hi folks .
> 
> Right  i am having  3 problems most likely all silly but too long out of 
> hacking 
> so rusty as hell
> 
> on startup of KDM i get the following 
> Warning cannot open ConsoleKit Session: Unable to open session :Failed to 
> connect /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket : no such directory
> 

add dbus to DAEMONS in rc.conf


> But KDE seems to run ok ..
> 
> Next one (well two almost the same )
> Try to start Firefox i get .
> Symbol lookuo error :/usr/lib/libgkt-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: 
> 9_datalist_get_data .
> 
> this is for the user  as root it is the same just the 9_ changes to g_ 

always pacman -Syu before installing new packages

you can also combine updating fully your system with installing new
packages like:

pacman -Syu myawesomenewpackages

> 
> and same report for Gftp with the same combination i do not really want to go 
> installing huge parts of gnome if i can help it 
> 
> the last one now  i am unable to find the en_GB  Locale file for KDE  
> i have tried "pacman -S kde-l10n-en_GB"  but just get  error not found 
> 

we don't have any packages with capital letters in name. that's a rule

> 
> Cheers all 
> Pete ..



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Re: [arch-general] Hi from a new Arch user

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/07/2012 10:37 AM, Peter Nikolic wrote:
> Morning all 
> 
> well installed Arch still a few small glitches to solve but looking good 
> 
> Pete .
> 

Your soul is now ours. Congratulation.

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Re: [arch-general] Need a little help getting started with contributing

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/04/2012 09:28 PM, Göran Gustafsson wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> I got a few small patches related to esthetical issues that i would like
> to send upstream so everyone else can enjoy them. I'm a little bit lost
> on how i should do this.
> 
> The packages i've edited is initscripts, mkinitcpio and filesystem. When
> it comes to initscripts and mkinitcpio i've just cloned the git
> repositories but i'm not sure how i should send the commits upstream.
> git push doesn't work since i don't have the right permissions. I've
> only used github to send pull request before so i'm not that confident
> in git yet. Can i do the same thing with just the git command?
> 
> Also, does the filesystem package have a git repository i can use too?
> 
> Any help getting started would gladly be appreciated! :)


send git format patches on arch-projects ml. as a tip, append the
project name in front of the subject lile [initscripts].

super quick wiki:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Super_Quick_Git_Guide

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Re: [arch-general] Totem is broken by last libarchive update on testing.

[Ionut Biru]

On 01/04/2012 06:15 PM, Frederic Bezies wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> After I upgraded libarchive a few hours ago, I noticed totem was not
> working anymore.
> 
> Reported bug #27824
> 
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27824
> 
> And when I tried to build it using PKGBUILD :
> 
> /usr/bin/ld: warning: libarchive.so.2, needed by
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so,
> not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_finish'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_entry_pathname'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_open_filename'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_data_skip'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_support_compression_all'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_next_header'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_support_format_all'
> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.6.2/../../../../lib/libtotem-plparser.so:
> undefined reference to `archive_read_new'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[3]: *** [totem-video-thumbnailer] Erreur 1
> make[3]: *** Attente des tâches non terminées
> make[3] : on quitte le répertoire « /home/fred/totem/src/totem-3.2.1/src »
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
> make[2] : on quitte le répertoire « /home/fred/totem/src/totem-3.2.1/src »
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
> make[1] : on quitte le répertoire « /home/fred/totem/src/totem-3.2.1 »
> make: *** [all] Erreur 2
> 
> Just a little warning :D
> 
> 

/usr/lib/libtotem-plparser.so.17.0.1 -- libarchive.so.2

it links.

FALCON, WHAT DID YOU DO?! :P


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Re: [arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/23/2011 12:11 PM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 03:39 -0600, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
>> Do not install an application requiring it?
> 
> Why does GDM require it?
> Why does GNOME3 require it?
> 

why are you talking about it here? We are not GNOME.

but to answer your question, gdm always was a instance of a user
session(gdm) modified.

To work everything in the login manager, the way it looks, the way it
works, as in power manager, suspend, video, everything! is done by
gnome-settings-daemon.


>> You'll need to provide context about what you're trying to accomplish
>> (clear and simple goals) and what you've already done (eg. I ran command
>> xyz, I installed gnome, etc ...)
> 
> The goal is a DAW with a professional audio card from RME. Since PA
> isn't needed, but it's always good to cause trouble, I won't have it
> installed.
> 
> I wish to have the libre to use GNOME3, even if I now use Xfce only.
> 
>> So far we've only learned PA probably sux, you don't want it on you system,
>> and some random bits about Debian ;-) ... best to assume nothing of the
>> solution since that's what you are here requesting.  Simply state your
>> end-goals, the issue(s), and the path taken thus far.
> 
> I installed ArchLinux, upgraded it by the basic repositories and only
> installed Xfce, GDM, some mailers, NVIDIA driver, nothing else until
> now.

if you don't like gdm, remove it and replace it with lxdm,lightdm or
other crap out there.


> 
> I'm going to set up a DAW and graphic machine with a kernel-rt, Ardour3
> with video timeline, GIMP etc..
> 
> I like to install GNOME3 too.
> 
>> IIRC PA is split into a library package, among others. Many pkgs will dep
>> libpulse, but it cannot be loaded (or possibly will not) without the
>> accompanying support packages.
>>
>> Audio is not my thing, but I absorb passively often as possible.  PA will
>> play nicely with other impls by suspending itself and releasing the
>> hardware when requested, allowing (JACK and ?) others to assume control.
>> My guess is there is not an issue here ... I suggest moving forward until a
>> concrete problem is encountered, or running headless.
>>
>> While I'm not into pro audio, I do use PA successfully on several machines
>> daily with great satisfaction and zero issue; be sure you understand the
>> difference between ALSA, alsa-lib, and PA.
> 
> It already is an issue. I don't need PA for my work. Even if it should
> cause no issue, I don't need it.
> 
> - Ralf
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/23/2011 11:51 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:27 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
>> On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
>>>> can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
>>>> libpulse?
>>>
>>> # pacman -Rss pulseaudio
>>> checking dependencies...
>>> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
>>> :: gnome-settings-daemon: requires pulseaudio
>>> :: pulseaudio-alsa: requires pulseaudio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ok then, gnome requires pulseaudio. The only way to get rid of
>> pulseaudio is to get rid of gnome.
> 
> 1.
> 
> At the moment only GDM is installed, not GNOME.
> 
> 2.
> 
> I had GNOME3 installed for Debian and 2 dummy packages solved all
> issues, since GNOME3 doesn't need PA, just some "my computer should be a
> toy, instead of a tool" tasks need PA.
> 
> Okay, if the policy of Arch Linux is to force people to install unneeded
> stuff, than it simply isn't the distro I should use.
> 

hey troll, before trowing such arguments i suggest to look at our gdm
version and debian version.

gdm 3.2 requires gnome-settings-daemon and all the crap.

debian has gdm 3.0 which doesn't require.

not to mention that only couples of days ago debian finished gnome 3.2.

> Thanks,
> 
> Ralf
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/23/2011 11:25 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 11:17 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
>> can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
>> libpulse?
> 
> # pacman -Rss pulseaudio
> checking dependencies...
> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
> :: gnome-settings-daemon: requires pulseaudio
> :: pulseaudio-alsa: requires pulseaudio
> 
> 
> 

ok then, gnome requires pulseaudio. The only way to get rid of
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Re: [arch-general] Is there a clean solution to get completely rid of Pulseaudio?

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/23/2011 10:41 AM, Ralf Madorf wrote:
> Hi :)
> 
> people told me that Arch Linux will not force me to install PA. Today I
> continued to set up my Arch Linux. A cold still hinder me to work very
> long on my computer, so until now Google didn't help me to find an easy
> solution to get rid of PA. Arch Linux on my machine does force me to
> install PA to keep the system consistent.
> 

can you clarify that you are talking about pulseaudio and not about
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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [ANNOUNCE] filesystem-2011.12 manual intervention required

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/19/2011 08:29 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> 
> This would require changing the install script only for this particular
> update. But what's wrong with (as root)
> "rm -vf /etc/mtab && ln -vs /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab && pacman -Syu"?
> 

Using your method, you end up in the same situation like is it now.

The idea is to include the symlink into the package.

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Re: [arch-general] Extrange message regarding gnome-keyring

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/19/2011 06:52 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> Hi,
> no change. Can it be that I have to configure something  for policykit
> to be opened correcty in xfce? I haven't seen anything particular in
> the wiki respect to this point but who knows.
> 
> At least, is there anybody seen the same? Shall I fill a bug instead
> of spamming the mailing list?

a bug is already filled:
arch: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/26271
upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665961

the -3 package contains the fix from upstream. If it doesn't fix your
problem you should forward this to the upstream report.


> Hector
> 
> On 19 December 2011 14:47, Ionut Biru  wrote:
>> Can you please test this packages and let me know if is fixed?
>>
>> http://pkgbuild.com/~ioni/gnome-keyring/
>>
>> --
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>>
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Extrange message regarding gnome-keyring

[Ionut Biru]

Can you please test this packages and let me know if is fixed?

http://pkgbuild.com/~ioni/gnome-keyring/

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Re: [arch-general] libgsf update

[Ionut Biru]

On 12/18/2011 07:04 PM, Myra Nelson wrote:
>>> I realize I can complete the update by pacman -Suf or pacman -Rdd
>>> libgsf-gnome then install the libgsf update but would think this would be
>>> handled by an install file included with the package. I would prefer not
>> to
>>> bork my box so I thought I would ask first for a change.
>>>
>>
>> now, why do you think that -f will solve every problem? -f is not for
>> forcing updates when dependencies are not met!
>>
>> Stop using -f.
>>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>>
>>> Myra
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
> Thats's why I didn't use -f and have quit using -f, why I don't think it
> will solve every problem, why I ask for the proper procedure before I
> borked my box, and why I asked about it being taken care of by an install
> file. Lately I've seen several "user intervention needed" news postings and
> assumed this might be one of those cases. I intentionally pointed out the
> wrong way to do this, sorry if I offended you.
> 
> Myra
> 

No offense taken and I hope that my reply wasn't offensive.

I was only curios since I see a lot of our users using -f along with -Su
and with -Sdd lately and maybe our manual is not clear enough.

As for original problem, nothing in our repository depended on that
package and there wasn't any way to have it installed. But my logic
seems to be faulty.

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Re: [arch-general] libgsf update

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On 12/18/2011 10:31 AM, Myra Nelson wrote:
> What is the proper procedure for updating libgsf. Per the commit message
> libgnome-gsf was dropped because upstream dropped it. When trying to update
> the following error occurs.
> 
> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) ::
> libgsf-gnome: requires libgsf=1.14.21.
> 

libgsf-gnome was dropped by upstream in 1.14.22 and by us now since
nothing in our repos depend on it.

pacman -Rs libgsf-gnome

> I realize I can complete the update by pacman -Suf or pacman -Rdd
> libgsf-gnome then install the libgsf update but would think this would be
> handled by an install file included with the package. I would prefer not to
> bork my box so I thought I would ask first for a change.
> 

now, why do you think that -f will solve every problem? -f is not for
forcing updates when dependencies are not met!

Stop using -f.
> Thanks for your assistance.
> 
> Myra


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Re: [arch-general] Haskell Support Was: [arch-haskell] Xmonad version?

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On 12/17/2011 11:41 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
> Haskell platform was released with the latest stable GHC (7.0.4 of course).
> 
> Guys, what's happening with haskell support in Arch?
> 
> Xmonad, and now GHC and lots of packages in the supported repos are
> not keeping update with upstream.

i vote for dropping xmonad and all packages to aur and let the community
handle them.

it seems we are not doing a great job at keeping them up to date.

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Re: [arch-general] Extrange message regarding gnome-keyring

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On 12/17/2011 02:28 PM, Hector Martinez-Seara wrote:
> Hi,
> for some time ( one week maybe) I see the following message regarding
> gnome-keyring.
> 
> WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to:
> /tmp/keyring-3TI6ND/pkcs11: No such file or directory
> 

is a gnome-keyring bug.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665961

be sure that gnome-keyring-daemon really runs and if is it paste the env
output in the report.


a working keyring should have
$ ps aux | grep keyring
ioni  1169  0.0  0.6  71060 12552 ?Sl   17:45   0:00
/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login

$ env | grep GNOME_KEYRING
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-pxYetE
GNOME_KEYRING_PID=1169


> This meassage can be seen for example in my .xsession-errors file or
> when opening winecfg among others.
> 
> The issue is that indeed this file do not exist. I have the
> /tmp/keyring-3TI6ND/dir but is empty.
> I guess that this means that gnonome-keyring was not somehow
> initialized properly. I'm using gdm+xfce.
> I'm fully updated.
> 
> I have seen the same behavior in my 3 archlinux machines.
> 
> Any ideas whats going on? or I should fill a bug. I yes where in arch
> or upstream?
> 
> Hector
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] How do I uncomment a locale?

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On 12/16/2011 12:41 AM, Grant McDuling wrote:
> Thanks everyone for your help. I have Arch (Gnome) up and running beautifully 
> and I am now a convert. But when I boot up, I don't have an Arch logo on the 
> boot up screen as I see some do on You Tube. Any way I can fix this?
> 
> Grant
> 

Welcome aboard.

First of all, we hate top posting.

Secondly, we dropped the arch logo from boot screen some time ago.

> 
> On 15/12/2011, at 8:32 PM, Frédéric Perrin wrote:
> 
>> On 14.12.2011 01:02, Sébastien Leblanc wrote:
>>>In your case it would be the Australian English locale (en_AU, I
>>> think).
>>
>> What is the difference between en_GB, en_US and en_AU ? Is the motd
>> updated to tell you "Good morning, Sir", "Hi guy" or "Good day, mate"?
>>
>> -- 
>> Fred
>>
> 
> Grant McDuling
> Writer
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Grant-McDuling/e/B004UTH35M
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] audio realtime, was: /usr/bin/X: No such file

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On 12/11/2011 07:39 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Sorry some additional Arch Linux newbie questions ;)
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org im Auftrag von Ionut Biru
> Gesendet: So 12/11/2011 16:19
>> AUR is your friend.
>>
>> nvidia-lts for kernel26-lts is in extra.
>> nvidia-rt from aur
>> nvidia-$yourcrappykerly from aur
> 
> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12132
> 
> Dependencies:
> linux-rt>=3.0.0
> linux-rt<3.2.0
> nvidia-utils=285.05.09
> 
> So if I build a kernel myself, not by using pacman or PKGBUILD I need to
> add some kind of dummy package?

is called nvidia-all

> Cheers!
> 
> Ralf
> 


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Re: [arch-general] /usr/bin/X: No such file

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On 12/11/2011 05:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> PS: Dependencies are
> * linux>=3.1
> * linux<3.2
> * nvidia-utils=290.10
> 
> So I wonder if it would build a module if I should build some kernel-rt 
> myself. Since current one is 3.0 
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/ I suspect I need to 
> download from NVIDIA.
> 
> *?*
> 
> Ralf

AUR is your friend.

nvidia-lts for kernel26-lts is in extra.
nvidia-rt from aur
nvidia-$yourcrappykerly from aur

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Re: [arch-general] /usr/bin/X: No such file

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On 12/11/2011 03:28 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org im Auftrag von Allan McRae
> Gesendet: So 12/11/2011 11:51
>>
>> Have you installed xorg?
>>
>>> pacman -Qo /usr/bin/X
>> /usr/bin/X is owned by xorg-server 1.11.2-2
> 
> Oops :D
> 
> thank you :), at least xorg.xinit already was installed, but the server
> and driver were not installed. Now X and GDM are running. Using the
> proprietary nvidia driver, regarding to X everything is ok now.
> 

why do i think you used nvidia installer instead of doing pacman -S nvidia ?

> GDM still needs some tweak, since I can't log in as root and GNOME
> already is listed, but currently only Xfce4 is installed.
> 

maybe you should start thinking about it. Is not working because is
wrong to use root as your primary account, especially in graphics. If
you really want, since is your system and I don't care what are you
doing, check /etc/pam.d/gdm-password

authsufficient  pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 1000 quiet


> It's not important that root doesn't work, I don't need it. I only
> wanted to test it, but next thing I'll do is too add the user.
> 
> I'll have a meal first ;).
> 
> Ralf
> 
> PS: Hm? IIUC it already should work for root.
> 
>> cat /media/archlinux/etc/gdm/custom.conf
> # GDM configuration storage
> 
> [daemon]
> 
> [security]
> AllowRoot=true
> 
> [xdmcp]
> 
> [greeter]
> 
> [chooser]
> 
> [debug]
> 

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Re: [arch-general] Pacman 4.0.x on core ? When ? :)

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On 12/10/2011 05:36 PM, Vic Demuzere wrote:
> On 9 December 2011 10:19, fredbezies  wrote:
>>
>> Yes. Pacman is 4.0.1 right now. But I think the hard point is key
>> creation. I wonder how this will be handled in ISO after pacman 4.0.x
>> release on core.
>>
> 
> A new step in the installer where you have to download and accept keys
> would be the easiest solution, probably?
> 
> --
> Vic Demuzere

we are going to have a keyring package that includes the keys to allow
offline installations.

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Re: [arch-general] Linking issue, glibc weirdness?

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On 12/09/2011 09:25 PM, Philipp wrote:
> Hi there,
> I have linking issues with one of the programs I maintain in AUR and I
> don't quite understand the issue. Here's the output:
> 
> g++ -Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,--hash-style=gnu
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o jmeters jmeters.o styles.o mainwin.o jclient.o
> mkimage.o meterwin.o -lsndfile -lclxclient -lclthreads -ljack -lpng
> -lXft -lX11 -lrt
> /usr/bin/ld: jmeters.o: undefined reference to symbol
> 'pthread_mutex_trylock@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
> /usr/bin/ld: note: 'pthread_mutex_trylock@@GLIBC_2.2.5' is defined in
> DSO /lib/libpthread.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
> /lib/libpthread.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [jmeters] Error 1
> 
> The program is jmeters
> (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25711).
> 
> It depends on clthreads (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3627)
> which handles the threading stuff.
> 
> I wonder where this problem comes from. Needles to say that it worked
> fine in the past. Any ideas?
> 
> Regards,
> Philipp
> 

sounds like you don't have a fully up to date toolchain

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Re: [arch-general] Are the clickandpledge donations actually going to Arch?

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On 12/08/2011 09:05 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> Hi devs/TUs, just to bring the below topic to your attention, it seems
> clickandpledge.com is accepting donations on behalf of Arch Linux. Am
> wondering whether its legit.
> 
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=131529

It is very legit.

I believe we are going to have a news entry sooner or later.

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Re: [arch-general] Unbootable systems

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On 12/04/2011 11:13 PM, Guillermo Leira wrote:
> I've just updated two computers that boot from external USB drives, and
> now I get a
> 
> "Error: Unable to determine major/minor number of root device 'waiting 8
> seconds for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/296...etc"
> 
> I have tried to modify grub using by-id, just /dev/sdb1, but no way...
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Guillermo Leira
> 
> 

get mkinitcpio from testing or append to your bootloader "quiet" option
to kernel line.

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Re: [arch-general] Please stop abusing of the out-of-date option

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On 12/01/2011 03:41 PM, Andrea Scarpino wrote:
> Please users stop abusing of the out-of-date option.
> 
> What you SHOULDN'T do:
> - report as out-of-date a package when a beta or a RC is out
> - report as out-of-date a package which conflicts
> - report as out-of-date a package which doesn't build
> - report as out-of-date a package which is broken
> - report as out-of-date a package when the mirror you use is out-of-date
> - and my favorite, report as out-of-date a package which WORKS like
> this one at the bottom of this mail

I can add this:

- don't report out of date packages that follow odd/even versioning scheme.

even - stable
odd - development.

This applies to all gnome modules/apps, including banshee! :D


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Re: [arch-general] libgdbm.so.4 breakage?

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On 11/30/2011 12:13 PM, Simon Perry wrote:
> On 30/11/11, Ionut Biru wrote:
> 
> | have you tried pacman -Syu ?
> 
> Twice a day normally...
> 

do it again.

gdbm 1.10 is in core.

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Re: [arch-general] libgdbm.so.4 breakage?

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On 11/30/2011 12:09 PM, Simon Perry wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was about to lodge a bug regarding this, but now I'm not sure if it's
> something my system is doing or...
> 
> Anyway, tonight I needed to RDP to a work box, and both Remmina and
> Vinagre both failed to run:
> 
> % remmina
> remmina: error while loading shared libraries: libgdbm.so.4: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> % vinagre
> vinagre: error while loading shared libraries: libgdbm.so.4: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> So I wrote some scripts, and discovered the following packages are
> expecting this library (see http://pastebin.com/DyWw74iK for the complete
> output of my script):
> 
> apr-util 1.3.12-3
> avahi 0.6.30-6
> python2 2.7.2-4
> python 3.2.2-2
> ruby 1.9.3_p0-2
> subversion 1.6.17-7
> vinagre 3.2.2-1
> zsh 4.3.12-3
> 
> After seeing this, I tried svn:
> 
> % svn --help
> svn: error while loading shared libraries: libgdbm.so.4: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Zsh works still, luckily... :)
> 
> I have an entry in pacman.log that says I upgraded gdbm on:
> 
> [2011-01-13 19:57] upgraded gdbm (1.8.3-7 -> 1.8.3-8)
> [2011-11-07 01:00] upgraded gdbm (1.8.3-8 -> 1.8.3-9)
> 
> The reason I haven't lodged an FS is because I downgraded to gdbm
> 1.8.3-8 (from Janurary!) and it doesn't have libgdbm.so.4 either, so
> I'm not sure if there's something weird on my system or what. I'm
> confused and astonished that I haven't noticed it until tonight.
> 
> "pacman -Ql gdbm" clearly states no reference to libgdbm.so.4, just
> libgdbm.so.3 ...
> 
> Halp... Multipass...
> 


have you tried pacman -Syu ?

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Re: [arch-general] No FFMPEG/LibAV for Audacity?

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On 11/28/2011 12:46 AM, Jonathan E. Brickman wrote:
> Yes, via AUR.  The AUR version recompiled fine, but in the preferences
> when run, it says that it is compiled without FFMPEG support.
> 

firstly, stop top posting, you broke the reading flow.

secondly, why audacity from aur?

Is our audacity from extra broken?

From what i see, audacity from extra is compiled using their internal
ffmpeg version.

If you want external ffmpeg, add --with-ffmpeg to configure


> J.E.B.
>> On 11/28/2011 12:34 AM, Jonathan E. Brickman wrote:
>>> I tried every combination of repo and AUR versions of Audacity, FFMPEG,
>>> and LibAV libraries, and I was not able to find a way to give Audacity
>>> the file named libavformat.so.52 which it wants to much.  So far as I
>>> have been able to tell, all of the versions of FFMPEG and LibAV either
>>> don't compile or produce libavformat.so.53, which the available versions
>>> of Audacity won't touch.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a solution?  I would try Ubuntu deb's, but I am concerned
>>> with introducing more conflicts instead of eliminating just one!
>>
>> have you actually tried to recompile audacity?
>>
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] No FFMPEG/LibAV for Audacity?

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On 11/28/2011 12:34 AM, Jonathan E. Brickman wrote:
> I tried every combination of repo and AUR versions of Audacity, FFMPEG,
> and LibAV libraries, and I was not able to find a way to give Audacity
> the file named libavformat.so.52 which it wants to much.  So far as I
> have been able to tell, all of the versions of FFMPEG and LibAV either
> don't compile or produce libavformat.so.53, which the available versions
> of Audacity won't touch.
> 
> Anyone have a solution?  I would try Ubuntu deb's, but I am concerned
> with introducing more conflicts instead of eliminating just one!


have you actually tried to recompile audacity?

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Re: [arch-general] Fwd: [aur-general] Dropping tango-icon-theme{, -extras}

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On 11/22/2011 11:23 AM, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
> Forwarding this to arch-general to get some developers' attention on
> this (I failed at entering the mail address the first time).
> 
> - Forwarded message from Lukas Fleischer  -
> 
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:17:47 +0100
> From: Lukas Fleischer 
> To: arch-general@archlinux, aur-gene...@archlinux.org
> Subject: [aur-general] Dropping tango-icon-theme{,-extras}
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
> 
> Hi!
> 
> All sources hosted at tango.freedesktop.org became inaccessible [1] a
> couple of days ago, probably due to some software upgrade on
> freedesktop.org.
> 
> I contacted upstream yesterday and was told that tango-icon-theme,
> tango-icon-theme-extras and icon-naming-utils are dead and that we
> shouldn't rely on upstream sources being available (they even mentioned
> they probably won't care about the 404). It has been suggested to use
> gnome-icon-theme and gnome-icon-theme-extras instead.
> 
> Given that xfce4-settings seems to be the only package depending on
> tango-icon-theme, I'd suggest to:
> 
> * Remove the "tango-icon-theme" dependency from xfce4-settings (this
>   shouldn't break anything, does it?)
> 

is broken from the time we remove the icon theme. Xfce is going to miss
all those icons until somebody installs a new icon theme. We have to
replace with something.

did somebody talked with xfce about this or at least with xfce maintainers?

> * Move both tango-icon-theme and tango-icon-theme-extras to
>   [unsupported].
> 
> * Think about what to do with icon-naming-utils. We seem to need those
>   for gnome-icon-theme and gnome-icon-theme-symbolic, so putting the
>   source tarball on our source mirror might be the best thing to do
>   (unless there's a proper alternative, of course).
> 


gentoo distfiles are useful for something. I'll take care of
icon-naming-utils.


> Objections and other suggestions welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lukas
> 
> [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library#Download
> 
> - End forwarded message -


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Re: [arch-general] Wiki

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On 11/16/2011 12:25 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:
> It´s normalizing.
> 
> Why the problem ?
> 
> Thank you and cheers,
> 

a cache table used by forums was corrupted and mysql did some crazy
things when trying to recover.


> 2011/11/15 Karol Blazewicz 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ionut Biru  wrote:
>>> On 11/15/2011 11:58 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> The problem in Wiki ? No acess.
>>>>
>>>> wiki.archlinux.org
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> it should be up soonish
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> It's already working for me, thanks :-)
>>
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [arch-general] Wiki

[Ionut Biru]

On 11/15/2011 11:58 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> The problem in Wiki ? No acess.
> 
> wiki.archlinux.org
> 
> Cheers,

it should be up soonish

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Re: [arch-general] Evolution Missing from Testing

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On 11/14/2011 03:30 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> When I do a 'pacman -Syu', I'm getting an error that
> evolution-3.2.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz cannot be found though the testing
> list file shows that file.  It sounds to me that the repo is not in
> sync or something.

wait a bit more. you are too fast :)

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Re: [arch-general] Issues compiling Jepp

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On 11/07/2011 11:11 AM, Sergi Pons Freixes wrote:

Hi All,

I'm trying to install Jepp ( http://jepp.sourceforge.net/ ), but even after
talking with the developer we cannot get it right. So, I'm gonna try asking
here just in case somebody could give us some insight.

I have a Linux 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT  x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500
CPU @3.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Using openjdk for java: openjdk6 6.b22_1.10.4-1
And Python 2.7: python2 2.7.2-2

Actually, my default Python is python 3.2.2-1, but as Jepp has not been
ported to Python 3, before beginning the installation procedure I do an
"export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2", so it uses the path to the Python 2
binary (and libraries, as I can see on the logs).

So, there is no problem when running autogen.sh (automake 1.11.1-2 here),
and ./configure also runs ok. When doing the "make", it stalls with:
...
Making all in jep
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/sergi/installs/jep-2.4/src/jep'
/bin/sh ../../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I. -I../..   -I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/include
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/include/linux -I/usr/include/python2.7
-g -O2 -MT jep_object.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/jep_object.Tpo -c -o
jep_object.lo `test -f 'python/jep_object.c' || echo
'./'`python/jep_object.c
mv -f .deps/jep_object.Tpo .deps/jep_object.Plo
mv: cannot stat `.deps/jep_object.Tpo': No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [jep_object.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/sergi/installs/jep-2.4/src/jep'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/sergi/installs/jep-2.4/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/sergi/installs/jep-2.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2




try adding options=(!makeflags). i believe is a parallel issue



Apart from that, I cannot glance any problem, missing dependency or warning
before, so no clue of why it's not building correctly. I've also tried with
other gcc versions, no luck. Mike Johnson, the developer of Jepp, pointed:
"That's weird, the -MF flag is passed to the compiler and gcc should have
written out that file."
and
"...any idea why that is. It must be a bug in autotools, you can try to
upgrade them.

Or you can manually make the .deps folder and an empty file for each one it
complains on. The dependency files are just make rules used to regenerate
just the changed objects if a source file changes. Unless you're changing
stuff, it won't matter..."

So... any suggestion?

Regards,
Sergi



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Re: [arch-general] Why not create a new repo specified for games ?

[Ionut Biru]

On 11/01/2011 07:01 PM, Ángel Velásquez wrote:

2011/11/1 Matej Ľach:

I support this idea.
Keep most games in AUR and the more popular ones can have their own repo
[games] on a separate server.
This server could be community financed using donations and if not enough
interest will be raised for new repo, all these huge games can be moved to
AUR and the smaller ones can stay in [community].

That's my view at it.



I have been saying that since two or three years ago.

As i've said before, games is not the strong point of any Linux
distribution, and nobody use linux to game, face it, some people
download games, but most of the gamer people are playing consoles, not
even a desktop/laptop computer..

For me having another repo [games] won't be a mess, and for non-gamers
won't be a mess either cause we won't play games!. games are not
popular software like KDE/GNOME (which I don't use), even if you try
harder to justify about "other bigger packages" no dude, games are not
so popular to this size of mb. It's a relation popular<->  disk space.

But well, i'm done with this, games in repos are hurting our distro
instead helping it..

Good luck





Is not like we need space for something else right now.

This discussion is pointless. Let it die

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] pam-1.1.5-1

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On 10/27/2011 10:38 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

Hi
Release 1.1.5
* pam_env: Fix CVE-2011-3148 and CVE-2011-3149
* pam_access: Add hostname resolution cache
* Documentation: Improvements/fixes

please signoff both arches,

greetings
tpowa


signoff i686.

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Re: [arch-general] Monitoring changes to [core], [extra], [community]

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On 10/28/2011 10:46 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:13, Allan McRae  wrote:

On 28/10/11 14:49, Magnus Therning wrote:


Is there some convenient way of monitoring changes to the Arch repos?

The reason for asking is the work we do in ArchHaskell. Due to how ghc
(the Haskell compiler) works it's necessary to re-compile and re-link
a package when one of its dependencies changes. In this case "changes"
includes a bump of pkgrel as well. Currently we're not trying to track
any changes to the dependencies living in [extra] and [community],
which means that at times packages in ArchHaskell breaks until a user
notices it. Are there any tools that can help out with this?



https://www.archlinux.org/feeds/packages/


Thanks, I didn't know that existed. Now  I know the data exists so I
need a good tool that lets me monitor a subset of the packages of
Arch. Does that exist already or do I need to hack something up
myself?

/M



or you can subscribe to arch-commits ml

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Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

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On 10/24/2011 06:58 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Ionut Biru  wrote:

On 10/24/2011 06:37 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

While we're at it, what it the preferred way to contact our Dear Arch
Overlords if something is malfunctioning?
Pierre said "try to contact us immediately"
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1001244#p1001244 but
didn't say how ...


contact me, florian or pierre, directly on our emails

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Just to be sure: it's OK to e-mail all 3 of you after 15 minutes of
downtime / forum search malfunction etc. or should I wait more / act
sooner?


it's fine

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Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

[Ionut Biru]

On 10/24/2011 06:37 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Ionut Biru  wrote:

On 10/24/2011 05:30 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote:


Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum
seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are
located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is?


the services had come back online in the same time you reported this issue.

your internet is working fine, don't worry.

we had a hard disk failure which needs to be replaced.

the server is going down again at 19:00 CEST for another 15 minutes.

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While we're at it, what it the preferred way to contact our Dear Arch
Overlords if something is malfunctioning?
Pierre said "try to contact us immediately"
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1001244#p1001244 but
didn't say how ...


contact me, florian or pierre, directly on our emails

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Re: [arch-general] Wiki & forum down?

[Ionut Biru]

On 10/24/2011 05:30 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote:

Apologies if I've missed something obvious, but both the wiki and forum
seem to have been down for at least a few hours now (I think they are
located on the same host). Does anyone know what the situation is?


the services had come back online in the same time you reported this issue.

your internet is working fine, don't worry.

we had a hard disk failure which needs to be replaced.

the server is going down again at 19:00 CEST for another 15 minutes.

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Re: [arch-general] OpenVAS in AUR not compiling

[Ionut Biru]

On 10/15/2011 07:30 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Alessio 'Blaster' Biancalana
  wrote:

Hello guys,
I require you to test some stuff.

Trying to compile OpenVAS, I get Error 2 or some other things.
Now I ask, it's my fault or...?

Let me know if openvas-libraries in AUR builds fine for you ;)

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I think it's the wrong list - you should ask on aur-general as it's an
aur package. Post this error on the AUR page of that package too - the
maintainer may be able to help you.

I got

Linking C static library libopenvas_nasl.a
[ 73%] Built target openvas_nasl_static
Scanning dependencies of target openvas-nasl
[ 73%] Building C object nasl/CMakeFiles/openvas-nasl.dir/nasl.c.o
Linking C executable openvas-nasl
../misc/libopenvas_misc.a(network.c.o): In function `open_SSL_connection':
/home/karol/test/makepkg/src/openvas-libraries-4.0.5/misc/network.c:828:
undefined reference to `gnutls_transport_set_lowat'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [nasl/openvas-nasl] Error 1
make[1]: *** [nasl/CMakeFiles/openvas-nasl.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
==>  ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
 Aborting...



gnutls_transport_set_lowat is deprecated in gnutls 3.0. To fix this 
issue you have to patch the sources and remove entire that line.


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