[arch-general] Problems with upgrading arch system do to file conflicts.
Evening all, When trying to update my arch system, I get a message about files in conflict with speech-dispatcher. Speech-dispatcher is not even listed as an update. I have tried paceman overwrite with no luck. I looked at the arch new updates and saw nothing to the effect of this. Is there something wrong, or a bug somewhere that needs to be fixed? I have not been able to fine anything on this one. I am scratching my head. Any help would be greatly appriseated. Thanks. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] Anyone having problems refreshing PGP keys lately?
Hi. This machine is from 2019. I am guessing there is a way to get the version of Pac-Man on that system. I was unable to get orca to read the file. To give you an idea of how old this system is, the nano is 4.4 something. Matthew. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Doug Newgard via arch-general > wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 10:21:10 -0400 > matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: > >> Good morning all, >> >> I am wondering if anyone is having problems refreshing PGP keys from the >> default server? I can force it to use the ipv4 server, but using >> mate-terminal with orca I am unable to edit the /etc/pacman.d/gnu/pgp.conf >> file to change the server. Orca will not read it and plume will not open it >> with sudo rites. Any ideas on this one? This is an older arch vm which >> will not update till the PGP keys have been updated and imported. I do not >> have speech in a conc so that would not work. Thanks. >> >> Matthew > > The SKS pools are not in good shape right now. Should work fine using the > ubuntu keyserver. > > You should be able to update the archlinux-keyring package then update the > system. If it's old enough that it doesn't have the key for archlinux-keyring, > it's not going to have pacman 5.2 and won't be able to successfully update > anyway. The hooks in current packages require pacman 5.2.
[arch-general] Anyone having problems refreshing PGP keys lately?
Good morning all, I am wondering if anyone is having problems refreshing PGP keys from the default server? I can force it to use the ipv4 server, but using mate-terminal with orca I am unable to edit the /etc/pacman.d/gnu/pgp.conf file to change the server. Orca will not read it and plume will not open it with sudo rites. Any ideas on this one? This is an older arch vm which will not update till the PGP keys have been updated and imported. I do not have speech in a conc so that would not work. Thanks. Matthew
[arch-general] Time stamps are in 24 hour format how can you change this.
Hi all, I am using Jenux which is a basic installer for arch Linux, but any I have notest that for some reason when using thunderbird with orca, Time and day are spoken in 24 hour format with year, month day followed by the time in 24 hour format. My time zone is set correctly. For example 2020/2020/jfirstjf 15:jj. Any one know how to switch to udds format? It's driving me crazy. If I use orca to get the time it is spoken correctly. Thanks all. Matthew PS, I have checked the arch wiki, but came up empty. Thanks.
[arch-general] Question about switching to 12 hour time
Hi all, As an orca user, I am confused about something. My arch machine is set to use local time which means that if I am using orca and quarry the time orca gives me the time correctly in 12 hour time but in looking at emails in thunderbird, the time and date are spoken in 24 hour time for example, Its about 6:33 p.m here in the eastern u.s which orca would speak correctly but if I were to use orca I would here the message info with the date format spoken as 2020/13/02 followed by 18:33. Is there something in a configuration file somewhere or something in orca that I need to change? Just wondering as this is confusing me. BTW, my locale is set to en_US.UTF-8. Thanks. Will continue to do some digging but thought I would ask here just incase I am missing something obvious. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] Getting 404 errors while trying to install arch on a fresh system. Any rreason why?
-Original Message- From: arch-general On Behalf Of mar77i via arch-general Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 10:02 AM To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Cc: mar...@protonmail.ch Subject: Re: [arch-general] Getting 404 errors while trying to install arch on a fresh system. Any rreason why? ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, January 20, 2020 3:52 PM, Matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: > Hi all, > > Using the tarch iso from www.tarch.info http://www.tarch.info , I am I wasn't sure what you were talking about so I checked out the website: Cabinets, twin size beds and ... toaster ovens? You must have meant https://talkingarch.info/ Sorry, should be tarch.org. In any case, the latest image, acts as if there is no internet connection. My internet is working fine. I am using a VM, but should not matter since all other distros work fine. Matthew cheers! mar77i
Re: [arch-general] Getting 404 errors while trying to install arch on a fresh system. Any rreason why?
Hi, I am getting sound with the tarch image, but when trying to install, I get the 404 errors. HTH. Matthew -Original Message- From: arch-general On Behalf Of ? ??? via arch-general Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 11:05 AM To: Matthew dyer via arch-general Cc: александр епанешников Subject: Re: [arch-general] Getting 404 errors while trying to install arch on a fresh system. Any rreason why? hello, i recommend using iso from talkingarch.info because it is newer. but now all recent kernels suffer from speakup bug witch completely hangs system. i will test lts release. and if it is normal create new iso tomorrow. in fact you can avoid thees bug if you use only read by strings witch numpad 7 and 9. 20.01.2020 17:52, Matthew dyer via arch-general пишет: > Hi all, > > > > Using the tarch iso from www.tarch.info <http://www.tarch.info> , I am > unable to install to a fresh system. During the download of packages, > I get unable to retreave packages the requested URL returned error > code 404. I eventually I am given the message "Envalide or corrupted > package." Any ideas on why this is happens? I tried the latest tarch > image from October, but the image gives me no internet connection. My > internection is fine. I have updated the gpg keys, but the same thing > hppens. I am guessing that I am getting partial downloads of some > packages. Any one seeing this with the standered arch iso? I am a > blind user of linux so can not use the standard iso to test. If > anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreaseated. I did some searching > but came up empty. Thanks. > > > > Matthew > > > > >
[arch-general] Getting 404 errors while trying to install arch on a fresh system. Any rreason why?
Hi all, Using the tarch iso from www.tarch.info <http://www.tarch.info> , I am unable to install to a fresh system. During the download of packages, I get unable to retreave packages the requested URL returned error code 404. I eventually I am given the message "Envalide or corrupted package." Any ideas on why this is happens? I tried the latest tarch image from October, but the image gives me no internet connection. My internection is fine. I have updated the gpg keys, but the same thing hppens. I am guessing that I am getting partial downloads of some packages. Any one seeing this with the standered arch iso? I am a blind user of linux so can not use the standard iso to test. If anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreaseated. I did some searching but came up empty. Thanks. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] High lag in graphical applications
I had an issue like this with KDE having huge lag problems. I checked htop and determined it was caused by applications dropping into uninterruptible sleep due to I/o wait. That in turn was caused by baloo file indexer running rampant in my huge music collection. Not sure if yours would be the same problem, but you could check htop and see if there applications that are lagging are in state D .. that would mean something is using the hard drive and they have to wait. (My apologies for top posting, on mobile) On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 1:02 PM Yurii Kolesnykov wrote: > Correct command is `glxinfo|grep -I rendering` with *small* `i`, but mine > spellchecker makes me nut. > > > На 17 вересня 2019 р. в 19:59:22, Genes Lists via arch-general ( > arch-general@archlinux.org) написав: > > On 9/17/19 12:48 PM, Yurii Kolesnykov wrote: > > > Hello Lukas, > > > > > > Firstly, could you provide output of the following command (requires > mesa-demos): > > > > > > `glxinfo|grep Rendering` > > > > > Or possibly > > > > glxinfo|grep rendering > > >
Re: [arch-general] Time and date in 24 hour time can this be fixed?
Hi. Problem fixed. I added lc time ends to locale.conf and now all is well. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Dan Sommers <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> > wrote: > > On 9/14/19 11:19 AM, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > > >> when I look at an email such as in thunderbird, the time and date are > >> given 24 hour format for example, 2019/14/09 11:00 rather than the > >> u.s format I am used to. > > > What is the output of the locale(1) command? > > Also, this page may be of help. > > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_the_Date_Format#Configuring_the_date.2Ftime_system_settings_on_your_computer > > According to RFC 2822, the time of day in an email message is always in > 24-hour format. Changing your system settings can't and won't (and IMO > shouldn't) change that. If anything, I think that you'll have to change > something in Thunderbird. > > Dan
Re: [arch-general] Time and date in 24 hour time can this be fixed?
Thanks. Will give this a try. Matthew > On Sep 14, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general > wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 11:56:46 -0400, Matthew Dyer via arch-general wrote: >> I am getting a sintax error when runn locale(1). Locale is set to >> en_US.UTF-8 in /etc/locale.gebn. At least it is uncommeted. Should I >> rerun the locale.-gen and see if that helps. > > Hi Matthew, > > if I were you I would replace /etc/locale.gen by > /etc/locale.gen.pacnew, uncomment the desired language/s, just in case > also take a look at /etc/locale.conf and then run > 'sudo locale-gen'. > > To get back 24 hour format (that's what I prefer over 12 hour format), > I restarted my machine, > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale#LC_TIME:_date_and_time_format . > > You might not necessarily need to restart the machine, but it doesn't > harm. The output of 'localectl status' does not display the real status! > > However, running 'locale; echo $?; locale -a; echo $?' must not cause a > syntax error, 'locale' must always return exit status '0' ;). > > Regards, > Ralf
Re: [arch-general] Time and date in 24 hour time can this be fixed?
I am getting a sintax error when runn locale(1). Locale is set to en_US.UTF-8 in /etc/locale.gebn. At least it is uncommeted. Should I rerun the locale.-gen and see if that helps. Matthew On 2019-09-14 11:19, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Matthew, when I look at an email such as in thunderbird, the time and date are given 24 hour format for example, 2019/14/09 11:00 rather than the u.s format I am used to. What is the output of the locale(1) command? Also, this page may be of help. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Change_the_Date_Format#Configuring_the_date.2Ftime_system_settings_on_your_computer
[arch-general] Time and date in 24 hour time can this be fixed?
Hi all, I am using arch linux with orca and mate desktop and have a strange problem or bug or something and was wondering if there was a way to fix it or work around it. I am using the America/New_York time zone so my time shows correctly at least according to orca. Orca gives me the time in 12 Hour format which is what I want, but when I look at an email such as in thunderbird, the time and date are given 24 hour format for example, 2019/14/09 11:00 rather than the u.s format I am used to. I read through the arch wiki and could not find anything on how to change the time format on the clock. Any ideas on how to change this? HW clock is set to UTC if that has anything to do with it. I tried to set it to locale time, but that messed up the system clock so had to switch it back. Thanks all. BTW, if this is sooted better for the orca list please let me know/. Thanks again all. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] 2x 1440p displays not working on thunderbold dock anymore
On Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:13:26 AM EDT Ricardo Band wrote: > I don't know why this doesn't work anymore. Could it be a driver issue? > I've got a nvidia GPU with the proprietary driver and the integrated > intel with the open source driver and it wouldn't be the first time > intel or nvidia fucked their drivers up. Nvidia was updated with the kernel on 9/14, and 9/10 before that. It's very likely that the Nvidia driver is the problem. Have you tried using the opensource nouveau drivers with your card? If anything, it makes troubleshooting and bug reporting/fixing easier as we have the source to dive into. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] Input, Uinput, and udev problems with user access
On Monday, September 9, 2019 10:48:27 AM EDT Storm Dragon via arch-general wrote: > Up until yesterday evening, the following setup would allow the Fenrir > ... > Has something changed, and if so, what do I need to do differently to get > it working again? I would check the pacman logs, /var/logs/pacman.log and see what was updated between the last time it ran without problems, and now. Does the system reboot automatically? The kernel was updated on 7/9/19, perhaps last night was the reboot that ran the new kernel. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] fenrir
Hi, Yes it should work. Jenux which is an arch system uses it by default. Matthew > On Aug 5, 2019, at 12:10 PM, adérito wrote: > > Hello, does fenrir screen reader work on arch linux? > > Enviado do Correio para Windows 10 >
Re: [arch-general] BrlTTY Hard Dependency on eSpeak
Hi, Yes discovered this the other day. I think it is time to make espeak deprecated imo and have espeak-ng the default particularly in the talking arch which someone is taking over development of. Thanks. Matthew -Original Message- From: arch-general On Behalf Of Storm Dragon via arch-general Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:16 PM To: Arch Linux General Cc: Storm Dragon Subject: [arch-general] BrlTTY Hard Dependancy on eSpeak Hi, I'm having some issues with installing brltty. The problem is, it depends on espeak but I'm using the espeak-ng from community and it is giving me the unresolvable conflicts problem for that reason. I don't think that brltty actually needs espeak at all, and it could probably be listed as an optional dependancy along with espeak-ng. Thanks, Storm
Re: [arch-general] BIND, systemd-resolved, and nscd
On 2018-09-19T11:22:16, frede...@ofb.net wrote: > > > Well, prior to the recent BIND releease, the default had been "yes" - > > > which means "no" for me. > > ... > > 2. I'm not sure what you mean by the yes-means-no syntax. The URL that you > > provided seems pretty cut and dry. > > ... > > > dnssec-validation yes; #does validate (requires a trusted-keys or > > managed-keys statement, which you DO NOT have in your example) > > I think you just answered your own question. Except perhaps that the > word "requires" is a bit misleading, because when you don't have that > statement then 'named' still starts up and responds to queries, it > just doesn't do DNSSEC validation. So 'named' itself does not > "require" it. Fair point, maybe raise that on the ISC list. > Your first email wondered if I didn't want "no" instead of "yes" and I > was explaining that they are the same for my configuration, which is > based on the default named.conf that ships with bind, which doesn't > have a trusted-keys or managed-keys statement. In other words, they > are also the same for the default configuration. As I explained, "yes" > was the default validation setting and I was trying to restore the old > behavior, which doesn't do validation. I was wondering why you had > asked this question, if you had some kind of expert knowledge that I > didn't have - but it looks like we are learning about this together, > since you are referring to the URL I provided. Yea I ran into this as well. I just disabled dnssec locally and relied on my forwarders to handle it. Your question prompted me to look into it a bit more. > The purpose of my original post was to ask whether this sort of change > in the defaults of an important package belongs in the Arch news page > (https://www.archlinux.org/news/), but I haven't received an answer > yet. I'm open to advice on question-asking or if this is the right > forum or whatever. I could be wrong bit I don't think so, it's an upstream change of a default value. Matt Pallissard signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] BIND, systemd-resolved, and nscd
On 2018-09-13T12:31:28, frede...@ofb.net wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 06:49:45AM -0700, Pallissard, Matthew wrote: > > > I had to add "dnssec-validation yes;" to /etc/named.conf. I have a > > > > Are you sure you didn't want these values? > > > > dnssec-enable no; > > dnssec-validation no; > > Well, prior to the recent BIND releease, the default had been "yes" - > which means "no" for me. I just wanted to make it behave the same way > as it had before. I don't know if there's a difference between that > and the options you suggested: > > ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.10/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#Configuration_File_Grammar > > If set to auto, DNSSEC validation is enabled, and a default trust > anchor for the DNS root zone is used. If set to yes, DNSSEC > validation is enabled, but a trust anchor must be manually > configured using a trusted-keys or managed-keys statement. The > default is yes. > > Here's my SU question BTW: > > https://superuser.com/questions/1349213/how-to-debug-local-named-with-broken-dnssec > > Matthew, do you know more about this stuff or were you just as > confused as I was by the "yes means no" syntax? I didn't necessarily > want to get into that in this thread, although it could potentially be > something for us to complain to the BIND maintainers about. (viz., > people thinking they had enabled dnssec-validation when in fact they > hadn't) > > Frederick A few things. 1. Google's public DNS servers are DNSSEC validating forwarders, your router evidently is not. 2. I'm not sure what you mean by the yes-means-no syntax. The URL that you provided seems pretty cut and dry. > dnssec-enable yes; # returns dnssec resource records > dnssec-enable nol # does not, validation cannot be performed > dnssec-validation no; #does not validate > dnssec-validation yes; #does validate (requires a trusted-keys or managed-keys statement, which you DO NOT have in your example) > dnssec-validation autol #does validate (uses trusted/manged-keys blocks or the trust anchor compiled into named) TL;DR If you want to 'make it behave the same way as it had before', it sounds like you need to disable DNSSEC validation. If you want to make it honour DNSSEC set dnssec-validation to 'auto' or 'yes' with the related keys statement. Matt Pallissard signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] BIND, systemd-resolved, and nscd
> I had to add "dnssec-validation yes;" to /etc/named.conf. I have a Are you sure you didn't want these values? dnssec-enable no; dnssec-validation no; Matt Pallissard signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [arch-general] Antergoes problem.
On 8/22/18 12:51 PM, Doug Newgard via arch-general wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:46:41 -0400 Matthew Dyer via arch-general wrote: Hi all, Just installed antergoes which is an arch diribitive distro. Any how I have yaourt Enabled to install packages from the AUR. When I attempted to install or update packages with yaourt I get command not found. For example, when I type yaourt -S espeak-ng-git I get the responce, "bash command not found." any ideas on this. has something changed that I am unare of. I never had this problem with this before. Thanks all. Matthew If you're on Antergos, go ask the Antergos people. The problem seems to be saulved yaourt is in the antergoes repo so it should be fixed now and all seems to be well. I would have asked them, but did not find the forms to see what I cocould do about it. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct#Arch_Linux_distribution_support_.2Aonly.2A
[arch-general] Antergoes problem.
Hi all, Just installed antergoes which is an arch diribitive distro. Any how I have yaourt Enabled to install packages from the AUR. When I attempted to install or update packages with yaourt I get command not found. For example, when I type yaourt -S espeak-ng-git I get the responce, "bash command not found." any ideas on this. has something changed that I am unare of. I never had this problem with this before. Thanks all. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] Grub-efi install issue
Aaa, Thanks. I managed to get it installed and configured, but while the system booted I had no speech. I saw another thread on this and someone thought it was an orca problem, but not sure as this was a basic arch system. I did havew antergoes installed to another vm and also had no speech so could be releated. Thanks again. I will mess with this a bit more as it seems the efi partition needs to be mount twice onece before installing all packages and then mounted to the installed system while in arch-chroot. Matthew On 08/06/2018 03:34 PM, Morgan Adamiec via arch-general wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:25, Matthew Dyer via arch-general wrote: Hi all, I am trying to install arch to a efi system and got as far as the configure the packages but grub install is whare I am stuck. First off, in the wiki it says to mount the efi partition, but it doesn't say whare to mount it to. Secondly, I run the following to install grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/dev/sda1 --bootloader-id=GRUB and get the following error. something about unable to get the udev. What am I missing? Would something rong? The wiki artical s a bit confusing. Thanks. The EFI partition is usually mounted to /boot on arch systems, although /boot/efi is another common place. The grub wiki page says "substitute esp with its mount point". /dev/sda1 is the device, not the mount point.
[arch-general] Grub-efi install issue
Hi all, I am trying to install arch to a efi system and got as far as the configure the packages but grub install is whare I am stuck. First off, in the wiki it says to mount the efi partition, but it doesn't say whare to mount it to. Secondly, I run the following to install grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/dev/sda1 --bootloader-id=GRUB and get the following error. something about unable to get the udev. What am I missing? Would something rong? The wiki artical s a bit confusing. Thanks.
[arch-general] Question about using an efi partition
Hi all, Last night I was reading in the arch wiki about creating an efi partition for arch Linux and I had a question. Is this esp partition the same as say a boot partition that is used in bios? Meening do I need to have an extra partition for a boot partition or is this efi partition used as the boot partition. I did not see anything regarding this in the wiki so thought I would ask here. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] Espeak in official repositories needs an overhaul
Hi, I have been using espeak ng git rom the aur and it seems to work. I have not seen an update in a while. Matthew -Original Message- From: arch-general [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Capella via arch-general Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 7:10 PM To: arch-general@archlinux.org Cc: Daniel Capella <polyciti...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Espeak in official repositories needs an overhaul I had previously looked into packaging espeak-ng (in the AUR), but it depends on the development version of pcaudiolib (espeak-ng maintains a fork that is "even" with upstream). Perhaps they can be persuaded to make a release. -- Best, polyzen
Re: [arch-general] Thunderbird doesn't show e-mails
Hi, Under view, menu, there should be an opsion to show read messages. HTH. Matthew Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Giovanni Santini via arch-general Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 8:44 AM To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Cc: Giovanni Santini Subject: [arch-general] Thunderbird doesn't show e-mails Hello everyone, I have a weird issue. My uni e-mail uses Office 365 as e-mail provider; I've added it in Thunderbird, but I can see only unread e-mails. All the read one are not appearing in my inbox. However, if I `cat` the INBOX file, I can see the e-mails and if I mark them as unread from somewhere else I can see them. Also, adding the e-mail address on Thunderbird on Windows doesn't have the same problem. Any idea to further investgation? -- Giovanni Santini My blog: http://giovannisantini.tk My code: https://git{hub,lab}.com/ItachiSan My GPG: 2FADEBF5
Re: [arch-general] Problem updating Fenrir from AUR.
Yes It works fine now. I figured it would be wort put it here figuring itt was accessibility related. Thanks for the heads up though. Matthew Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Storm Dragon via arch-general Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:54 PM To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Cc: Storm Dragon Subject: Re: [arch-general] Problem updating Fenrir from AUR. Howdy, Sorry, that was my bad. It's all fixed now. Let me know if you have any more problems with it. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 04:20:12PM -0400, Arch Linux General wrote: >Hi all. > >Yesterday, I notesed that Fenrir got a miner update in the AUER and when >trying to update, I receive a message force settings could not be reconnized >or something to the efeect. Any ideas on this one? I only made a change so >that keyboard keys speak. I use yaourt to keep all my AUR packages updated. >If anyone has any way to get around this please let me know. I am using gnome >3.26.1 with all updates as well as orca master as of this morning. > >Thanks. > > > >Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > -- Powered by Arch Linux! I am registered Linux user number 508465: https://linuxcounter.net/user/508465.html My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.tk/ get my public PGP key: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 43DDC193 Twitter and Facebook are so ... yesteryear. Get your 2MB Social account TODAY! http://2mb.social/main/register How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a lightbulb? http://goo.gl/eO4PJ "So many souls follow the path, trusting their magic and blades. There has to be more than that, fight with your heart or fail." Battlelore - Swordmaster
[arch-general] Problem updating Fenrir from AUR.
Hi all. Yesterday, I notesed that Fenrir got a miner update in the AUER and when trying to update, I receive a message force settings could not be reconnized or something to the efeect. Any ideas on this one? I only made a change so that keyboard keys speak. I use yaourt to keep all my AUR packages updated. If anyone has any way to get around this please let me know. I am using gnome 3.26.1 with all updates as well as orca master as of this morning. Thanks. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
[arch-general] Strange time sync problem.
Hi all, I have an arch machine with mate as the desktop. I am using orca all works well, but 1 problem that is driving me crazy is time zone syncrinization. If I get time with orca t, I here the time 4 hours ahead of my local time. For example, If I press orca t for time, it will tell me that it is 15:-01. It is speaking in 24 hour time rather than 12 hour. It is about 11 am eastering at time of writing this message. I am wondering if there is a way to fix this. I installed gnome control center and set it to sync timezone info and to use am-pm but the is not being used dispite the changed. How can I fix this? Thanks. I tried tz select, but not sure whare the file is to set globalble. hanks. Matthew
Re: [arch-general] That terminal in gnome will launch.
Hi, This morning I tried to reinstall gnome terminal and got no dice. I wonder if something like mate-terminal might work, but not really good with advance stuff. So it is deffennetly very strange since it just stoped working rite out of the blue. Oh well. Matthew On 6/28/17, 3:45 AM, "arch-general on behalf of Andrew Barchuk" <arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org on behalf of and...@raindev.io> wrote: Hi Matthew, I'd try to go to a virtual console (usually Ctrl+Alt+FN, N = 1..12, F1 is probably your desktop environment) and use journalctl[1] to find some logs related to gnome-terminal. Also having access to a command line you can install some other terminal emulator[2] to be able debug issues from your graphical environment. Running gnome-terminal from a terminal emulator (not from virtual console) should give you a pretty good idea what is going wrong. [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Journal [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Terminal_emulators --- Andrew
[arch-general] That terminal in gnome will launch.
Hi all, For some strange ofeason, anon me terminal does not load either when search for it or selectable it in application ns Is there a way to fix this without having to rest stall Arch. Is there something I am doingwrong? I am using gnome 3.24 with all updates as of today. Thanks again for the help. Matthew D
Re: [arch-general] Arch install broken by invalid signatures (anthraxx) using 201610 iso
Hi, Just had this happen to me durring an update to the system. I did the following to fix this. sudo pacman-key -refreshkeys. Not sure how this works when installing from the images, but after refreshing the keys, updateing the system works without a problem. HTH. Matthew On 01/08/2017 02:11 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: All, Attempting an arch install tonight, and I get the following at pacstrap /mnt :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] :: Retrieving packages... krb5-1.13.7-1-x86_64 1100.1 KiB 1405K/s 00:01 [##] 100% libpsl-0.16.1-1-x86_64 49.8 KiB 3.74M/s 00:00 [##] 100% (155/155) checking keys in keyring [##] 100% (155/155) checking package integrity [##] 100% error: krb5: signature from "Levente Polyak (anthraxx) <leve...@leventepolyak.net>" is unknown trust :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/krb5-1.13.7-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] error: libpsl: signature from "Levente Polyak (anthraxx) <leve...@leventepolyak.net>" is unknown trust :: File /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/libpsl-0.16.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)). Do you want to delete it? [Y/n] error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. ==> ERROR: Failed to install packages to new root What was this caused by? I had to boot from the 10/2016 iso. Is it a change in signatures since then? I'll download a new iso and try, but I'd be surprised if an iso less than 5 months old no longer works?
Re: [arch-general] espeak ng and keeping packages in the aur uptodate.
Hi, I ran the talking arch script which Kial has been working and when doing so, I got the aur helper running. The simple thing is this. I want to switch to espeak NG and yes I am aware of espeakup git. I know that I can install this. I am going to assoom then that if espeak NG ias in the aur, I could just install it and all should be well. I asked aabout keeping aur packages updated as it did not mention in the wiki how to do this with the asseption of any git packages which are cloned. Hope this makes sence,. Matthew Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Eli Schwartz via arch-general Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:56 PM To: arch-general@archlinux.org Cc: Eli Schwartz Subject: Re: [arch-general] espeak ng and keeping packages in the aur uptodate. On 11/16/2016 07:50 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 19:24:58 -0500 (EST) > Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com> wrote: > >> Did you ever download a package from aur before? If not you can get and >> set up yaourt on archlinux but some edits have to be done to >> /etc/pacman.conf and then you need to run two pacman commands to first >> update your repositories and then install yaourt. I do it like this: >> [snip] >> > Please, do NOT recommend using the archlinux.fr repo. It causes problems all > of > the time. Also, do NOT recommend skipping over learning how the AUR actually > works. You're just setting people up for future failure. What I want to know is, given that the OP's original message clearly stated he *already has* yaourt installed... why, oh why, must the peanut gallery recommend *undoing* all that good work of manually (presumably -- one hopes) installing an AUR helper, and instead recommend activating the dreaded [archlinuxfr] repo? (This peanut gallery has posted here before, somehow I am not surprised he uses [archlinuxfr].) Either Jude DaShiell didn't read the OP at all, just the subject line, or he really, really, really wants people to use [archlinuxfr] for some truly bizarre (and messed up) reason. Either option is kind of scary. ... I also couldn't help but notice, not only did he recommend [archlinuxfr] he also recommended installing archlinuxfr/yaourt via a partial update! > pacman -Sy yaourt -- Eli Schwartz
Re: [arch-general] espeak ng and keeping packages in the aur up todate.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alex Theotokatos via arch-general Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:12 AM To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Cc: Alex Theotokatos Subject: Re: [arch-general] espeak ng and keeping packages in the aur up todate. On 11/16/2016 02:32 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Are you serious? >yaourt -Ss espeak > > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0=espeak espeak is on the official repositories, at community. So you can use pacman to install it. Hi, How do I know if I am running espeak ng? Espeak is already being used. I jst wondered If this is the case then I should be able to do sudo pacman -S espeak. I will have to rtake a look next time I boot up my arch system. I want to use espeak ng, Sonar already uses this. Thanks. Matthew
[arch-general] espeak ng and keeping packages in the aur up to date.
Hi all. I am wondering about a couple of things. I have been using orca for some time now, but wondering if espeak NG will be coming to arch community any time soon.. In the mean time, does any know if it is in the aur? Secondly I have yaourt installed and there are a few packages from the aur installed. What is the eaasyes way to keep the packages up to date. Is there a command through yaourt like sudo yaourt -Syu for example. I was reading about this in the arch wiki but did not find anything about how to do this offisiontly. If anyone knows how to do this, it would really be appriseated. Thanks. Matthew Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Re: [arch-general] [OT] Favorite/best desktop in archlinux
I use gnome myself. I am an orca user so gnome good for accessibility. Mate is also good. There is a couple of things you have to odo to get mate to work though gnome just works rite out of the box. Matthew On 11/06/2016 05:49 PM, Lukas Rose wrote: On 06 Nov 2016, at 23:15, Bruno Pagani <bruno.pag...@ens-lyon.org> wrote: Le 06/11/2016 à 23:12, Maykel Franco via arch-general a écrit : Hi, what the best desktop envieronment for archlinux? Only is the question. I like very much kde plasma but he used a lot of ram and sometimes it is very heavy. Do you think? There is no such thing like “the best DE”. This is a matter of taste/desired features, dot. Most people I know running Arch use i3, personally I use KDE Plasma. ;) Bruno You have to find out yourself what suits your usage best. I love XFCE for its simplicity, lightweightness and Linux-ish style (category bases menus as typical for Linux, customizable panels with applets etc). No matter what DE you use, docky is often a nice addition as a program launch menu.
Re: [arch-general] WLAN
Just a thought but when you type ip link what do you get? If you have more than one network device, you will want to make sure that dhcpcd is enabled with sudo systemctl enable dhcpcd@x.vservice whare x is the interface name you want to use. HTH. Matthew On 11/06/2016 05:12 PM, Silvio Siefke wrote: On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:03:15 +0100 Christian Rebischke <chris.rebisc...@archlinux.org> wrote: rfkill was already the right direction. You have to unblock the phy0 device via rfkill. Try `rfkill unblock 0` This should work. this work not. I try it with blacklisting what found in forum, I try with block and unblock. Nothing change. [sisibox siefke]# rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes 2: hci0: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no [sisibox siefke]# rfkill unblock 0 [sisibox siefke]# rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes 2: hci0: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no [sisibox siefke]# cat /etc/modprobe.d/hp.conf blacklist hp_wmi I try since 6 hours I really not understand whereis problem. Thank you Silvio
Re: [arch-general] Updates blocked by ttf-dejavu
Morning. Try this, sudo pacman -Syu --force. Worked for me thismorning after this was sugested to me by someone on the sonar support list and worked with my machine. HTH. Matthew On 11/01/2016 04:47 AM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: Hello, cannot update packages, as ttf-dejavu has conflicts. --- Output --- Fehler: Konnte den Vorgang nicht durchführen (In Konflikt stehende Dateien) ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf existiert im Dateisystem ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf existiert im Dateisystem ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf existiert im Dateisystem ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf existiert im Dateisystem ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/57-dejavu-sans.conf existiert im Dateisystem ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/57-dejavu-serif.conf existiert im Dateisystem Fehler sind aufgetreten, keine Pakete wurden aktualisiert. --- Translation for output --- Error: Could not proceed (files in conflict) ttf-dejavu: /etc/fonts/conf.d/20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf exists in file system ... Errors occured, no packages updated --- Kind regards Peter
[arch-general] ISC bind 9.11 and dyndb-ldap
Has anyone successfully used LDAP as a dynamic back-end for bind 9.11? Unless I'm reading the release notes/new features pages incorrectly the bind-dyndb-ldap plugin has been rolled into ISC's official release and I shouldn't have to mess around with patching/building it from source. Yet I get the following errors upon startup; named[9937]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' named[9937]: /etc/named.conf:23: unknown option 'dynamic-db' named[9937]: loading configuration: failure named[9937]: exiting (due to fatal error) systemd[1]: named.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Sources. https://www.isc.org/bind-9-11-new-features/ https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01432/81/BIND-9.11.0-Release-Notes.html Matt Pallissard
Re: [arch-general] Question regarding storm dragon's install script. When trying to tell my vm to run the script, I keep getting the message, bash, no such file or directory. Anyone here that is using
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Storm Dragon via arch-general > <arch-general@archlinux.org> wrote: > > Howdy, > The existing instructions should be valid, and yes, it is 2 & symbols. Those > mean, if the last command executed successfuly, do the next instruction. If > you want to break it down into a more readable series, it could be ran as: > curl -s https://stormdragon.tk/scripts/vm.sh > vm.sh > When your prompt comes back, then run: > bash vm.sh Thanks.. I will try this with https. I messed with a little bit earlier but got the same result. I will try it with the https and see what happens. > If you are familiar with irc, I am usually on irc.netwirc.tk (spelling is not > network), in room #talkingarch. Also, I can meet with you on mumble if you > need additional help, just let me know. > HTH, and good luck with the script. > Storm Not really familarer with how to use it really so not sure how to do some of this. Will work on it though. Matthew > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 02:01:56PM -0400, matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: >> >> Matthew > > --
[arch-general] Question regarding storm dragon's install script. When trying to tell my vm to run the script, I keep getting the message, bash, no such file or directory. Anyone here that is using the
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Re: [arch-general] time setting problem after installing.
Hi, The date is set fine it is just the time that is off.. Matthew On 07/03/16 20:56, Kenneth B. Jensen via arch-general wrote: On 07/03/2016 03:50 PM, matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: Kennoth, I am on a mac using easteron. I am the us ohio. NewYork would be the closest time zone . I think it is a matter of changing it to use america/new_York if that makes sence. Matthew On 07/03/16 22:39, Kenneth B. Jensen via arch-general wrote: On 07/03/2016 03:27 PM, matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: Hi all, I just installed arch into a vertual machine dfor now as I do not have a bare boons system to install to at the moment. Any way I have a problem whare my system thinks I am in lundon uk and not in the us. I have tried running NTPD-QG but I am told that the command not found. I want the clock to show the correct local time and not have it showing 4 hours ahead of it self. Any ideas on how to fix this. I want to show it in .profile, but it just creates a new file instead of using the exhisting file. How can I change my time to the corect local time? Thanks. Matthew Hi Matthew, Did you set the timezone correctly? If so, is your virtual machine using your machine's time as UTC? If it is, then make sure that you set your timezone as UTC. There are named timezones in the /usr/share/zoneinfo/US directory; try ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern /etc/localtime then check the date. If this does not work, try replacing US/Eastern with UTC. -- Sent from my Arch Linux VM
Re: [arch-general] time setting problem after installing.
Hi, I got the timezone set america/new_york. Will see what I can do about getting the time set correctlly eventually. I thought after setting the correct tz it would set the correcrt time from ntpd, but it is still showing the time differenrt then what the time is by over 4 hours. For example, current local time here is about 6:20 here but when I check the time using orca, I see that it is about 10:20 or in orcas catse it is 22:20. It is very strange. Matthew On 07/03/16 20:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 22:27:56 +0200, matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: How can I change my time to the corect local time? Don't correct local time, chose the wanted local time. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/time#Time_zone -- Sent from my Arch Linux VM
Re: [arch-general] time setting problem after installing.
Kennoth, I am on a mac using easteron. I am the us ohio. NewYork would be the closest time zone . I think it is a matter of changing it to use america/new_York if that makes sence. Matthew On 07/03/16 22:39, Kenneth B. Jensen via arch-general wrote: On 07/03/2016 03:27 PM, matthew dyer via arch-general wrote: Hi all, I just installed arch into a vertual machine dfor now as I do not have a bare boons system to install to at the moment. Any way I have a problem whare my system thinks I am in lundon uk and not in the us. I have tried running NTPD-QG but I am told that the command not found. I want the clock to show the correct local time and not have it showing 4 hours ahead of it self. Any ideas on how to fix this. I want to show it in .profile, but it just creates a new file instead of using the exhisting file. How can I change my time to the corect local time? Thanks. Matthew Hi Matthew, Did you set the timezone correctly? If so, is your virtual machine using your machine's time as UTC? If it is, then make sure that you set your timezone as UTC. -- Sent from my Arch Linux VM
[arch-general] time setting problem after installing.
Hi all, I just installed arch into a vertual machine dfor now as I do not have a bare boons system to install to at the moment. Any way I have a problem whare my system thinks I am in lundon uk and not in the us. I have tried running NTPD-QG but I am told that the command not found. I want the clock to show the correct local time and not have it showing 4 hours ahead of it self. Any ideas on how to fix this. I want to show it in .profile, but it just creates a new file instead of using the exhisting file. How can I change my time to the corect local time? Thanks. Matthew -- Sent from my Arch Linux VM
Re: [arch-general] Mutt's Missing Manual
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 08:39:38PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:34:21 -0400, Grady Martin wrote: Can anyone confirm this? Not for Mutt from extra, but I've got mutt-sidebar installed. $ pacman -Q mutt-sidebar mutt-sidebar 1.5.23-10 $ ls -hAl /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Mar 21 09:07 /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt I have mutt-sidebar as well, but I appear to have all the manuals. [moe@marvin ~ ]$ ls -l /usr/share/doc/mutt/ total 2.5M -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 77K May 12 00:49 advancedusage.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 938 May 12 00:49 applying-patches.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 417K May 12 00:49 ChangeLog -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 118K May 12 00:49 configuration.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.6K May 12 00:49 COPYRIGHT -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11K May 12 00:49 devel-notes.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71K May 12 00:49 gettingstarted.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18K May 12 00:49 GPL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58K May 12 00:49 index.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11K May 12 00:49 INSTALL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11K May 12 00:49 intro.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 720K May 12 00:49 manual.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 434K May 12 00:49 manual.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 49K May 12 00:49 mimesupport.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11K May 12 00:49 miscellany.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6.3K May 12 00:49 NEWS -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33K May 12 00:49 optionalfeatures.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.6K May 12 00:49 patch-notes.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7.5K May 12 00:49 PGP-Notes.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 984 May 12 00:49 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.5K May 12 00:49 README.SECURITY -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.6K May 12 00:49 README.SSL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 334K May 12 00:49 reference.html drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K May 12 00:49 samples/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.5K May 12 00:49 security.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.3K May 12 00:49 smime-notes.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.3K May 12 00:49 TODO -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.0K May 12 00:49 tuning.html [moe@marvin ~ ]$
Re: [arch-general] no screen grabber
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 03:50:30PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 08:42:59 -0400, James wrote: Are the official packages binary packages and the AUR is compiling from source? That's what it seems like. How do I search for a binary screen grabber package? Hi James, in /etc/pacman.conf you can add repositories for usage with pacman. If pacman -Si screengrab can't find it, non of the repositories does provide it. AUR and ABS don't provide binaries, they provide PKGBUILDs. There are Wikis explaining how to use Arch Linux. I recommend you read about pacman makepkg tools such as e.g. yaourt Start with https://www.archlinux.org/ , on top there's a link https://wiki.archlinux.org/ the Wiki has got a search engine. You likely will get links as https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Makepkg https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository The first sentence of the AUR Wiki: The Arch User Repository (AUR) is a community-driven repository for Arch users. It contains package descriptions (PKGBUILDs) that allow you to compile a package from source with makepkg and then install it via pacman. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Yaourt At the moment ABS seems to be unimportant for you. Hth, Ralf -- It only looks like a tape-recorder. It's actually a pen. So you can write with it and no one will know. Hi James; As Ralf has suggested you will find the package you are looking for in the AUR - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/screengrab/ If you look at the links that Ralf has provided about the AUR and Makepkg you will find all the information you require to install the programs/pacakges that are not available n the Core repository. Thanks.
[arch-general] imagemagick 6.8.9.8-1 is slower than 6.8.9.7-1
After upgrading to imagemagick 6.8.9.8-1, I've found it to be a lot slower than 6.8.9.7-1. I only get this issue when downloading from the repositories or using the PKGBUILD, not when compiling using the instructions at imagemagic.org. I've discussed the issue with the ImageMagick developers, which you can find at http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=3t=26369sid=a29400f51bd723e98da6b74c0819e9b3. Even when trying to convert a 500x500 image to 100x100, it appears that an image that is 2048x1536 is created. I've tried this on multiple Arch machines with the same result.
Re: [arch-general] imagemagick 6.8.9.8-1 is slower than 6.8.9.7-1
As shown in the forum post I linked, here is a strace for 6.8.9.7: $ strace -c convert /tmp/test.jpg -limit thread 4 -thumbnail 100x100 -gravity center -background none -extent 100x100 /tmp/mpdcover.png % time seconds usecs/call callserrors syscall -- --- --- - - 100.000.33 147 read 0.000.00 0 3 write 0.000.00 08431 open 0.000.00 054 close 0.000.00 012 3 stat 0.000.00 052 fstat 0.000.00 010 lseek 0.000.00 0 117 mmap 0.000.00 072 mprotect 0.000.00 025 munmap 0.000.00 0 9 brk 0.000.00 011 rt_sigaction 0.000.00 019 rt_sigprocmask 0.000.00 0 4 1 access 0.000.00 0 1 clone 0.000.00 0 1 execve 0.000.00 0 2 getdents 0.000.00 0 1 getcwd 0.000.00 0 1 readlink 0.000.00 0 2 getrlimit 0.000.00 018 times 0.000.00 0 1 arch_prctl 0.000.00 0 8 futex 0.000.00 0 1 sched_getaffinity 0.000.00 0 1 set_tid_address 0.000.00 0 2 1 openat 0.000.00 0 1 set_robust_list -- --- --- - - 100.000.33 55936 total and for 6.8.9.8 $ strace -c convert /tmp/test.jpg -limit thread 4 -thumbnail 100x100 -gravity center -background none -extent 100x100 /tmp/mpdcover.png % time seconds usecs/call callserrors syscall -- --- --- - - 56.990.001325 2946 munmap 43.010.001000 1856 futex 0.000.00 050 read 0.000.00 0 4 write 0.000.00 08931 open 0.000.00 059 close 0.000.00 02313 stat 0.000.00 055 fstat 0.000.00 010 lseek 0.000.00 0 139 mmap 0.000.00 076 mprotect 0.000.00 012 brk 0.000.00 011 rt_sigaction 0.000.00 019 rt_sigprocmask 0.000.00 0 5 1 access 0.000.00 0 9 madvise 0.000.00 0 3 clone 0.000.00 0 1 execve 0.000.00 0 2 getdents 0.000.00 0 1 getcwd 0.000.00 0 1 readlink 0.000.00 0 2 getrlimit 0.000.00 056 times 0.000.00 0 1 arch_prctl 0.000.00 0 1 sched_getaffinity 0.000.00 0 1 set_tid_address 0.000.00 0 2 1 openat 0.000.00 0 1 set_robust_list -- --- --- - - 100.000.002325 73546 total If you have a specific perf command that would be more revealing? Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:54:21 -0700 From: anatol.pomo...@gmail.com To: arch-general@archlinux.org Subject: Re: [arch-general] imagemagick 6.8.9.8-1 is slower than 6.8.9.7-1 Hi On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Matthew Wynn m-w...@live.com wrote: After upgrading to imagemagick 6.8.9.8-1, I've found it to be a lot slower than 6.8.9.7-1. I only get this issue when downloading from the repositories or using the PKGBUILD, not when compiling using the instructions at imagemagic.org. I've discussed the issue with the ImageMagick developers, which you can find at http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=3t=26369sid=a29400f51bd723e98da6b74c0819e9b3. Even when trying to convert a 500x500 image to 100x100, it appears that an image
Re: [arch-general] POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL(_DESIGN) semantics
On 18/08/14 05:00 AM, Chrisitan Burkard wrote: First of all: sorry for the last mail. I copy pasted the wrong email. Needed to resend it as I sent it with the wrong mail account to the list. @Curtis: Thanks. The hint to the manpage and the last_full_capacity property did their job. On 16.08.2014 22:11, Jakub Klinkovský wrote: On 15.08.14 at 12:27, Chrisitan Burkard wrote: ... Another issue I have is that the POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS shows 'Unknown' on AC but 'Discharging' on Battery. Do you have any idea why? My guess is that i3 uses this property to show the battery/AC state in i3status and because of the 'Unkown' value I don't get updates on the state there. The values for POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS on my laptop are: - when running on battery, it is always 'Discharging' - when running on AC: - 'Full' for 100% - 'Unknown' for 95%-99% - 'Charging' for 95% Note that my battery is not getting charged if the level is between 95% and 99% when I plug in AC. -- jlk You are right. I can confirm this behaviour but with different thresholds. Because of the age of the battery a FULL is never reached. The battery just has to get really low in order to come to its charging status. I just remembered a thing and would be interested what you think. Today only arch runs on my notebook but some time ago I was using dualboot windows, too. At that time the lenovo energy manager realized I mainly use the notebook on AC and switched the maximum battery capacity to around 70% (cannot recall the ecact value). I did not switch that back to 100% before wiping windows. -Is it possible that's (partially) the reason for the low CHARGE_FULL value compared to the CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN value? Or to put it different: Is it possible that the lenovos' windows energy manager driver set CHARGE_FULL to a lower value and linux drivers cannot overwrite this value? -Is there a possibility to change propertys displayed in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 without reinstalling windows and fixing it there? If you have links or knowledge for me, I would be really glad as I didn't find anything on my own. Best regards, Christian I also get the Unknown value, but I've set the thresholds of my T530 to something lower, using TLP [ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP ]. I don't think the value of CHARGE_FULL related because the charging thresholds seem to be completely independent, and I've been watching mine go down slowly ever since I bough my laptop. Also, reduced capacity over time is expected for any battery. Additionally, TLP lets you change the charging thresholds arbitrarily at runtime, and that value doesn't follow. ~Matthew
Re: [arch-general] Texlive 2013 packages releases to [testing] - breakages
On 07/12/2013 09:11 AM, Genes Lists wrote: ) Started testing texlive 2013 today - I have problems with bibliogrphy. I am working on a document which worked perfectly under texlive 2012. A) I installed when it moved to testing I moved all pacnew files over originals and ran fmtutil-sys --all B) Running biblatex I get: RUnning biblatex: This is BibTeX, Version 0.99d (TeX Live 2013/Arch Linux) The top-level auxiliary file: mbs-val-stochp.aux I found no \citation commands---while reading file mbs-val-stochp.aux I found no \bibdata command---while reading file mbs-val-stochp.aux I found no \bibstyle command---while reading file mbs-val-stochp.aux (There were 3 error messages) The command \printbibliography now does not generate any bibliography. Any suggestions how to fix this? Maybe this was heavy-handed, but what I did to get up and running was: 1 - upgrade 2 - fix .pacnew files 3 - fmtutil-sys --all 4 - pacman -S $(pacman -Qqs texlive) In other words, I just re-installed the texlive packages after doing the steps which you already did.
[arch-general] patch for syslinux install script
There is a slight change in behaviour. When preforming an update, all c32 modules in /usr/lib/syslinux/bios/ will get copied/symlinked. Previously we only updated/copied modules that were already in /boot/syslinux. Patches can also be found here: http://pyther.net/archlinux/syslinux/6/20130706/ Matthew Gyurgyik PKGBUILD: --- /tmp/syslinux/PKGBUILD 2013-07-06 08:55:21.0 -0400 +++ syslinux/PKGBUILD 2013-07-06 07:45:18.811510802 -0400 @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ pkgname=syslinux pkgver=6.01 -pkgrel=2 +pkgrel=3 arch=('x86_64' 'i686') pkgdesc=Collection of boot loaders that boot from FAT, ext2/3/4 and btrfs filesystems, from CDs and via PXE url=http://syslinux.zytor.com/; @@ -29,62 +29,62 @@ source=(https://www.kernel.org/pub/linu sha1sums=('d7bc1b188677f77ac2d7060d25491dc29877a9c4' 'b0f174bcc0386fdf699e03d0090e3ac841098010' - 'b1d915045fe3094f5359df043c53e73a4dc32745') + '2a7c1abe9816f6f702f425499a10582eebf94632') _build_syslinux_bios() { - + rm -rf ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-bios/ || true cp -r ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver} ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-bios cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-bios/ - + ## Do not try to build syslinux with our default LDFLAGS, it will fail unset LDFLAGS - + make PYTHON=python2 bios make PYTHON=python2 bios installer - + } _build_syslinux_efi64() { - + rm -rf ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi64/ || true cp -r ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver} ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi64 cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi64/ - + ## Unset all compiler FLAGS for efi64 build unset CFLAGS unset CPPFLAGS unset CXXFLAGS unset LDFLAGS unset MAKEFLAGS - + make PYTHON=python2 efi64 make PYTHON=python2 efi64 installer - + } _build_syslinux_efi32() { - + rm -rf ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi32/ || true cp -r ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver} ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi32 cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi32/ - + ## Unset all compiler FLAGS for efi32 build unset CFLAGS unset CPPFLAGS unset CXXFLAGS unset LDFLAGS unset MAKEFLAGS - + make PYTHON=python2 efi32 make PYTHON=python2 efi32 installer - + } build() { - + cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/ - + ## Do not try to build the Windows or DOS installers and DIAG files sed 's|diag libinstaller dos win32 win64 dosutil txt|libinstaller txt|g' -i ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/Makefile || true sed 's|win32/syslinux.exe win64/syslinux64.exe||g' -i ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/Makefile || true @@ -92,73 +92,73 @@ build() { sed 's|dos/syslinux.com||g' -i ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/Makefile || true sed 's|INSTALLSUBDIRS = com32 utils dosutil|INSTALLSUBDIRS = com32 utils|g' -i ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/Makefile || true sed 's|install -m 644 -c $(INSTALL_DIAG) $(INSTALLROOT)$(DIAGDIR)|# install -m 644 -c $(INSTALL_DIAG) $(INSTALLROOT)$(DIAGDIR)|g' -i ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/Makefile || true - + ## Fix FHS manpage path sed 's|/usr/man|/usr/share/man|g' -i ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/mk/syslinux.mk || true - + ## Build syslinux-efi if [[ ${CARCH} == x86_64 ]]; then _build_syslinux_efi64 fi - + if [[ ${CARCH} == i686 ]]; then _build_syslinux_efi32 fi - + ## Build syslinux-bios _build_syslinux_bios - + } _package_syslinux_bios() { - + cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-bios/ - + ## Install Syslinux bios make INSTALLROOT=${pkgdir}/ AUXDIR=/usr/lib/syslinux/bios/ bios install - + ## Remove syslinux.exe,syslinux64.exe,syslinux.com and dosutil dir rm ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/syslinux/bios/syslinux.{com,exe} || true rm ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/syslinux/bios/syslinux64.exe || true rm -rf ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/syslinux/bios/dosutil/ || true - + ## Remove com32 and diag dirs rm -rf ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/syslinux/bios/diag/ || true rm -rf ${pkgdir}/usr/lib/syslinux/bios/com32/ || true - + ## Move extlinux binary to /usr/bin install -d ${pkgdir}/usr/bin mv ${pkgdir}/sbin/extlinux ${pkgdir}/usr/bin/extlinux rm -rf ${pkgdir}/sbin/ - + ## Install docs install -d ${pkgdir}/usr/share/doc cp -ar ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/doc ${pkgdir}/usr/share/doc/syslinux - + ## Install the default configuration install -D -m0644 ${srcdir}/syslinux.cfg ${pkgdir}/boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg - + ## Install the installation and update script ## This script is maintained at git://gist.github.com/772138.git ## Script not yet updated for syslinux-efi install -D -m0755 ${srcdir}/syslinux-install_update ${pkgdir}/usr/bin/syslinux-install_update - + } package() { - + cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}/ - + if [[ ${CARCH} == x86_64 ]]; then cd ${srcdir}/${pkgname}-${pkgver}-efi64/ make INSTALLROOT=${pkgdir}/ AUXDIR=/usr
Re: [arch-general] NetworkManager from Commandline
On 05/02/2013 09:53 AM, Alex Sla wrote: Hi guys, I'm moving from KDE to Fluxbox, I want to keep using the NetworkManger. I have configured a lots of connection in it(WiFi / Cisco VPN for example). But I can't access my secrets to it. nmcli con up uuid 7f29abd0-c0d5-4e55-8796 Error: Connection activation failed: no valid VPN secrets. I guess, I saved them in the keyring file, how can I get access from the cli? Is there maybe another tool to mange the connection or getting access to the KDE Keyring file? You can store the secrets and paths to secret files directly in the /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/* if you don't want to depend on a keyring.
[arch-general] downgrades when moving out of [testing]
I typically upgrade with -uu, and use [*testing]. I've noticed lately that there is a window when a package moves out of [testing] that it will be downgraded. For example, this happened when openssh-6.2 recently moved. Are the packages being removed from [testing] before being added to e.g. [core]? Does mirroring happen separately, but faster for [testing]? (I use kernel.org). Best, Matt
Re: [arch-general] downgrades when moving out of [testing]
On 03/26/2013 07:32 AM, Florian Pritz wrote: On 26.03.2013 14:22, Matthew Monaco wrote: I typically upgrade with -uu, Now why would you do that unless you explicitly want to downgrade? This is only useful if you disable testing and want to downgrade all packages. Upgrading is only one -u. Because, often enough, packages are removed from testing and not moved into a stable repo.
Re: [arch-general] can't publish keys to network? What?
On 03/11/2013 11:03 PM, David Benfell wrote: Hi all, I wish I could ask this question intelligently. But I am clueless. I'm using the Cinnamon desktop manager. Whenever I log in, I get a message in the upper left hand corner that claims it can't publish keys to the network. I haven't seen this with other desktop managers: I've played with Openbox and GNOME. I have no idea what *it* is. I have no idea what *keys* it is talking about--I hope it isn't trying to publish private keys that should be kept secret. And I have no idea what functionality I'm losing as a result. Can someone shed some light? Thanks! Try running seahorse, go to Edit - Preferences. Make sure Automatically synchronize modified keys with key servers is not checked.
Re: [arch-general] Gotta be a stupid gnome-terminal problem
On 03/02/2013 07:38 AM, David Benfell wrote: Hi all, All other terminal emulators work. I have checked--thanks to what little I found on the web that seemed apropos--to be sure that /dev/pts is mounted (it is). But when I run gnome-terminal, I get no prompt and typing in commands does not work. This is a brand new installation, so I can't say it worked before some change. All I know is it doesn't work. What did I miss? Thanks! You can see if anything is running under the terminal with ps -AHf when gnome-terminal is running. Check the preferences under the Title and Command tab to make sure you haven't overridden your shell. You can try hard-coding your shell there to see if that does anything.
Re: [arch-general] Gotta be a stupid gnome-terminal problem
On 03/02/2013 07:17 PM, David Benfell wrote: On 03/02/2013 06:08 PM, Matthew Monaco wrote: You can see if anything is running under the terminal with ps -AHf when gnome-terminal is running. Check the preferences under the Title and Command tab to make sure you haven't overridden your shell. You can try hard-coding your shell there to see if that does anything. That's an interesting trick. It yields: benfell 5248 471 0 18:11 ?00:00:00 gnome-terminal benfell 5253 5248 0 18:11 ?00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper benfell 5254 5248 0 18:11 pts/200:00:00 /bin/zsh I had already checked the preferences and hard-coded the shell. And this says it's running. So why don't I see it? Thanks! Sorry, I don't have definitive answer. You can check ~/.xession-errors and $ journalctl -bp warning for clues. (If you use GDM .xsession-errors might have been moved recently.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux update to 5.01
On 01/31/2013 12:49 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Am 31.01.2013 18:43, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: Am 31.01.2013 16:09, schrieb Tobias Powalowski: Hi, ok syslinux 5.0 series should come to testing again. The problem with this release: You need to copy all .c32 modules to your /boot/syslinux path. - Those who used our shipped install script, will end up in a none menu based syslinux shell. As long as we ship this install script we should maintain it. So this script needs to be altered to copy the needed files. The script has already been modified to at least to syslinux shell. If it should do more, Pyther needs to change it. greetings tpowa I'll copy and paste from my previous message (Re: [arch-dev-public] syslinux 5.00 in [testing]). - Below you will find the links to the patches for the syslinux-install_update script, PKGBUILD, and syslinux.cfg During an install, the syslinux-install_update script will copy all .c32 modules to /boot/syslinux. This is recommended by upstream [1]. The size cost is minimal, 996K. For updates, I added an array called core_modules. During an update, we only copy modules that already exist in /boot/syslinux. However, if any core_module does not exist in /boot/syslinux it will be copied/symlinked. With these modifications, when a user upgrades from 4.06 - 5.00, ldlinux.c32 will be copied/symlinked to /boot/syslinux as it is core_module. Other modules such as libutil_com.c32 and libcom32.c32 will not be copied/linked. On boot, if a menu is being used, the menu will fail to load (missing depends: libutil_com.c32, etc...). However, the user will be given a syslinux shell they can boot by entering a label that corresponds to a defined label in syslinux.cfg. A post_install message or a news item suggesting users to copy / symlink all modules to /boot/syslinux would be ideal. Users who miss this message, will still be able to boot, but instead of the menu loading, they will be dropped to a syslinux shell (as explained above). cp /usr/lib/syslinux/*.c32 /boot/syslinux (/ and /boot on seperate fs) or ln -s /usr/lib/syslinux/*.c32 /boot/syslinux (/ and /boot on same fs) In my opinion, we shouldn't add new modules during an update to /boot/syslinux unless, without the module, the system becomes unbootable. The rational here being - the user knows best. Lastly, since com modules are no longer supported and no one has ported poweroff.com, I have removed the poweroff section from the syslinux.cfg [2]. Patches: http://pyther.net/a/syslinux-5.00-patches-v1/PKGBUILD.diff http://pyther.net/a/syslinux-5.00-patches-v1/syslinux-install_update.patch http://pyther.net/a/syslinux-5.00-patches-v1/syslinux.cfg.patch [1] In general, unless you have a reason *not* to install all the .c32 files, it is probably a good idea. - hpa [2] #syslinux @freenode: pyther : Hello. Is there a poweroff module for syslinux 5? Ady2 : pyther: no. all .com modules are not supported in 5.00. someone needs to create a new poweroff.c32 compatible with 5.00. Regards, Matthew Gyurgyik
Re: [arch-general] Install problem
On 01/02/2013 10:59 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: * What is the purpose of halt.target ? It stops the system but leaves power on. AFAICS, it's not possible to restart without a power cycle... Under sysvinit halt and poweroff were the same. Under systemd 'halt' halts the machine, whereas 'poweroff' first halts the machine and then switches off the power. I use 'halt' a lot to debug shutdown bugs, don't know if it has other uses. Manually power cycling a halted machine is safe. -t I can confirm what Tom is saying is correct, on my old slackware install halt was the same as shutting down. On my arch install that uses systemd halt is like giving your computer a lobotomy. Its still on but nothing going on. Personally I suspend my computer all the time unless I need to reboot it for an update or need to shut it down because of a thunderstorm. Good question though. -Matt
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 5.00 in [testing]
On 12/08/2012 10:59 AM, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: On 12/08/2012 06:37 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi, seems syslinux changed some things more than I expected, could thomas or gerado look at the changes? http://www.syslinux.org/archives/2012-December/018747.html I don't have time this afternoon. If it keeps broken, I'll remove it this evening from testing repository. greetings tpowa The default modules that we place into /boot (menu.c32 vesamenu.c32 chain.c32 hdt.c32 reboot.c32 poweroff.com) depend on libutil_com.c32, libcom32.c32, libmenu.c32, libcom32gpl.c32 (new with syslinux 5.0) The syslinux-install_update script will need to be updated to include these extra modules. I will provide a patch in the next day or two, since I'm the original author. Simply adding the new modules to the script should work, but I want to test the following (thus the delay for the patch): 1) upgrade from syslinux4 - syslinux5 2) new install using syslinux 5 Regards, Matthew Gyurgyik Below you will find the links to the patches for the syslinux-install_update script, PKGBUILD, and syslinux.cfg During an install, the syslinux-install_update script will copy all .c32 modules to /boot/syslinux. This is recommended by upstream [1]. The size cost is minimal, 996K. For updates, I added an array called core_modules. During an update, we only copy modules that already exist in /boot/syslinux. However, if any core_module does not exist in /boot/syslinux it will be copied/symlinked. With these modifications, when a user upgrades from 4.06 - 5.00, ldlinux.c32 will be copied/symlinked to /boot/syslinux as it is core_module. Other modules such as libutil_com.c32 and libcom32.c32 will not be copied/linked. On boot, if a menu is being used, the menu will fail to load (missing depends: libutil_com.c32, etc...). However, the user will be given a syslinux shell they can boot by entering a label that corresponds to a defined label in syslinux.cfg. A post_install message or a news item suggesting users to copy / symlink all modules to /boot/syslinux would be ideal. Users who miss this message, will still be able to boot, but instead of the menu loading, they will be dropped to a syslinux shell (as explained above). cp /usr/lib/syslinux/*.c32 /boot/syslinux (/ and /boot on seperate fs) or ln -s /usr/lib/syslinux/*.c32 /boot/syslinux (/ and /boot on same fs) In my opinion, we shouldn't add new modules during an update to /boot/syslinux unless, without, the module, the system becomes unbootable. The rational here being - the user knows best. Lastly, since com modules are no longer supported and no one has ported poweroff.com, I have removed the poweroff section from the syslinux.cfg [2]. Patches: http://pyther.net/a/syslinux-5.00-patches-v1/PKGBUILD.diff http://pyther.net/a/syslinux-5.00-patches-v1/syslinux-install_update.patch http://pyther.net/a/syslinux-5.00-patches-v1/syslinux.cfg.patch [1] In general, unless you have a reason *not* to install all the .c32 files, it is probably a good idea. - hpa [2] #syslinux @freenode: pyther : Hello. Is there a poweroff module for syslinux 5? Ady2 : pyther: no. all .com modules are not supported in 5.00. someone needs to create a new poweroff.c32 compatible with 5.00. Regards, Matthew Gyurgyik
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] syslinux 5.00 in [testing]
On 12/08/2012 10:59 AM, Matthew Gyurgyik wrote: On 12/08/2012 06:37 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi, seems syslinux changed some things more than I expected, could thomas or gerado look at the changes? http://www.syslinux.org/archives/2012-December/018747.html I don't have time this afternoon. If it keeps broken, I'll remove it this evening from testing repository. greetings tpowa The default modules that we place into /boot (menu.c32 vesamenu.c32 chain.c32 hdt.c32 reboot.c32 poweroff.com) depend on libutil_com.c32, libcom32.c32, libmenu.c32, libcom32gpl.c32 (new with syslinux 5.0) The syslinux-install_update script will need to be updated to include these extra modules. I will provide a patch in the next day or two, since I'm the original author. Simply adding the new modules to the script should work, but I want to test the following (thus the delay for the patch): 1) upgrade from syslinux4 - syslinux5 2) new install using syslinux 5 Regards, Matthew Gyurgyik Unfortunately I have been battling a cold all weekend and have not had time to look into this. Like I said the change should be fairly simple, and I will attempt to get a patch (tested) out by mid-week. Matthew Gyurgyik
Re: [arch-general] help
On 10/28/2012 12:18 AM, SMR wrote: Hello.I'm a new users of Archlinux but using Ubuntu for 3 years. I have installed all the system following the guide of beginner's guide. and I found I could not ping to google after I reboot my computer however just as 5 minutes before I had just used pacman to install all the packages i needed. and then I use “systemctl enable dhcpcd@ ” hoping to reset the Internet connection but the shell tells me“ Fail to issue method call:Read-only file system” Does anyone know what's the problem? Thank you! So this is once booted into your new system? Did you add your root partition to /etc/fstab? If it's not there, it won't be remounted rw during the bootup processes. So, you won't be able to enable any services and dhcp won't be able to write to /etc/resolv.conf for your DNS settings. Add a similar line to this to /etc/fstab: /dev/xxx / auto defaults,relatime 0 1
Re: [arch-general] Filesystem and /etc/shadow
On 10/25/2012 02:36 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Manolo Martínez man...@austrohungaro.com wrote: The update to filesystem-2012.10-2 brings with it a new /etc/shadow. This is one of the cases in which inspecting the diff between what I have and the .pacnew doesn't give any insight (to clueless users such as me). Could anyone provide a summary of what we should change in our current /etc/shadow? Without the diff of the old and the new /etc/shadow I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. Have a look in man 5 shadow, this should hopefully explain what the difference between the two files are. Unless something has gone wrong, you should be able to either ignore or merge the change and it should not make a difference, the reason /etc/shadow was changed was so that it would be in the correct state on a fresh install, for existing installs it should not matter. -t The change was with uuidd. You can view changes like this here [1]. Also, as a general tip, I go through shadow, passwd, group, and gshadow occasionally and make sure all of the groups/users from filesystem are first, then all of the lines I've added, and finally all of the lines that were added by package install files. [1] https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/log/trunk/shadow?h=packages/filesystem
Re: [arch-general] Modify installed package version
On 10/22/2012 11:05 PM, gt wrote: Hey guys is there a way to modify an installed package's version using pacman, instead of upgrading the package. That is, only change the version in the database, but don't actually upgrade a package. Alternatively can I rename the package directory inside /var/lib/pacman/local/ and %VERSION% string inside the desc file to achieve the same? Yeah, in fact some times for a quick fix I don't even bother with the directory name, the desc file is enough.
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] consolekit dependencies?
On 10/13/2012 09:40 AM, Gerhard Brauer wrote: Sorry for maybe double-posting, fist sent with wrong from-address ;-) On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 04:34:04PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Most (all?) of our login manager still depend on consolekit. However, since consolekit support will be stripped from polkit when gnome-unstable goes to testing (soon?), registering consolekit sessions on login has no effect whatsoever. Should we rebuild our login managers to remove the consolekit dependencies? I rebuilt kdebase-workspace locally yesterday, and polkit seems to work just fine. kde itself does not use consolekit, except through polkit. Doing this makes sense to me. However, to make things clear-cut, it would be best if we could entirely remove consolekit from our repos and put up an announcement. That way people will not be confused as to why things stop working if they are not using logind. This makes me a little nervous… What are the way for people which ex. use fluxbox via ck-launch-session and thunar as a filemanager (for dbus/polkit/udisks things) AND NOT systemd-logind ? I believe the logind equivalent to ck-launch-session is having session required pam_loginuid.so session required pam_systemd.so in whatever pam service is being used: /etc/pam.d/{gdm,lightdm,sshd,...}. pam_loginuid is not strictly necessary, but recommended. Will there be a way to use dbus/polkit-releated actions without systemd? I got more and more confused about the speed and amount of changes currently ;-) Cheers, Tom Regards Gerhard
Re: [arch-general] want to try systemd but need some advice
On 09/29/2012 03:29 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:59:45PM +0200, Rodrigo Rivas wrote: Well, you can disable the registering of systemd-logind sessions by deleting the lines with pam_systemd.so from the files /etc/pam.d/*. Not sure if that will be enough, or even wise. And now that you are into it, you could delete also the pam_ck_connector.so lines and see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the advice, but so far I have not installed anything, and I will only do so if and when I'm convinced that I will be able to configure the system as I want it. Which is nothing special since it has been working exactly like that for the past few years and with absolutley minimal reconfiguration effort from my side. And also because it's not a toy but something I depend on for my income. I'm perfectly prepared to put some effort into migrating to systemd, but I'm not prepared to 'fight' it in order to get what I want. If systemd is half as superior as it is claimed to be, then some manpage, or wiki, or an experienced user should be able to tell me what to do, without ifs and maybes. So far that is not the case, but I hope for the best. Ciao, Your login sessions from the display manager, virtual terminal, and ssh will all be very similar (if not identical) if you have the same settings in /etc/pam.d/{DM,login,sshd}. Btw, it seems like you're more concerned with logind than systemd, and pam_systemd.so would probably be better named pam_logind.so. That said, all of this seat an session management that consolekit, and now logind are doing, imo, makes these different logins more homogeneous because it explicitly defines concepts like session and seat. If you're willing to put in some time, then why don't you install simple system to a VM and make sure everything works as you expected? Alternatively, all of this work that Tom Gunderson (and others) have done recently allows you to switch between initscripts and systemd at boot time =) Systemd is superior to sysvinit in its design (my opinion). It also does a lot (maybe not so unixy, but lets see where this goes). However, it is still very young so it's difficult to get a lot of answers on google (google always spellchecks systemd-system...), find the correct manpage, find mini-howtos, etc. But hang in there, its functionality and presentation are being polished continuously. Along those lines, you're going to get a lot of ifs and maybes because the behavior is still in flux. This is in part do to upstream being very open to input from other projects.
Re: [arch-general] HARDWARECLOCK and systemd
On 09/17/2012 08:53 AM, Martín Cigorraga wrote: I'm moving to systemd (finally!) and I'm stuck at the HARDWARECLOCK section of rc.conf wiki. How should be configured /etc/adjtime ? I can't find what should be inside it. Also there say: If this value is not set, then the value stored by hwclock in /var/lib/hwclock/adjtime [...] but I don't have any /var/lib/hwclock directory. I would appreciate if anyone who already did the jump can share his experiences, thanks! How did you have it set with initscripts? If it was blank or UTC, then you don't need to do anything to migrate to systemd. I can't speak for localtime
Re: [arch-general] /etc/tmpfiles.d
On 09/17/2012 09:40 AM, Martín Cigorraga wrote: [...]However, tmpfiles may also be used to write values into certain files on boot. For example, if you use /etc/rc.local to disable wakeup from USB devices with echo USBE /proc/acpi/wakeup, you may use the following tmpfile instead: /etc/tmpfiles.d/disable-usb-wake.conf w /proc/acpi/wakeup - - - - USBE The tmpfiles method is recommended in this case since systemd doesn't actually support /etc/rc.local. Does that means that I need to move all the content from /etc/rc.local to /etc/tmpfiles.d? For example this is my actual /etc/rc.local: ~ $ cat /etc/rc.local #!/bin/bash # # /etc/rc.local: Local multi-user startup script. # #modprobe radeon # added by hybrid-video-ati-intel install script #echo IGD /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch # added by hybrid-video-ati-intel install script echo OFF /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch # completely deactivate radeon ## ATi # Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Performance_tuning echo low /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile #echo profile /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method echo dynpm /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method echo OFF /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch # CPUFREQ for i in 0 1 2 3; do cpufreq-set -c $i -g powersave; done ## sets powersave cpufreq governor for all CPU cores #echo -n 90 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold echo -n 20 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_down_factor # Prepare the system for Wake-on-Lan /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol pg # Activate laptop_mode echo 5 /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode # Performance tweaks for USB drivers under KDE SC echo madvise /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled echo madvise /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag echo 0 /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/defrag If this is the case, how do you guys would convert the FOR loop!? For ethtool, just create a separate service that executes that command. Everything else you do is writing to /sys, so you can have one giant tmpfiles.d file. For the for loop: w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave Also, I don't think it's an error if the file doesn't exist, so you can just do cpu0..cpu16 or whatever if you feel like.
Re: [arch-general] /etc/tmpfiles.d
On 09/17/2012 06:44 PM, Curtis Shimamoto wrote: On 09/17/12 at 10:31am, Matthew Monaco wrote: On 09/17/2012 09:40 AM, Mart?n Cigorraga wrote: [...]However, tmpfiles may also be used to write values into certain files on boot. For example, if you use /etc/rc.local to disable wakeup from USB devices with echo USBE /proc/acpi/wakeup, you may use the following tmpfile instead: /etc/tmpfiles.d/disable-usb-wake.conf w /proc/acpi/wakeup - - - - USBE The tmpfiles method is recommended in this case since systemd doesn't actually support /etc/rc.local. Does that means that I need to move all the content from /etc/rc.local to /etc/tmpfiles.d? For example this is my actual /etc/rc.local: ~ $ cat /etc/rc.local #!/bin/bash # # /etc/rc.local: Local multi-user startup script. # #modprobe radeon # added by hybrid-video-ati-intel install script #echo IGD /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch # added by hybrid-video-ati-intel install script echo OFF /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch # completely deactivate radeon ## ATi # Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Performance_tuning echo low /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile #echo profile /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method echo dynpm /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method echo OFF /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch # CPUFREQ for i in 0 1 2 3; do cpufreq-set -c $i -g powersave; done ## sets powersave cpufreq governor for all CPU cores #echo -n 90 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold echo -n 20 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_down_factor # Prepare the system for Wake-on-Lan /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol pg # Activate laptop_mode echo 5 /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode # Performance tweaks for USB drivers under KDE SC echo madvise /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled echo madvise /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/defrag echo 0 /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/defrag If this is the case, how do you guys would convert the FOR loop!? For ethtool, just create a separate service that executes that command. Everything else you do is writing to /sys, so you can have one giant tmpfiles.d file. For the for loop: w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave w /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/cpufreq/scaling_governor - - - - powersave Also, I don't think it's an error if the file doesn't exist, so you can just do cpu0..cpu16 or whatever if you feel like. I am fairly certain that tmpfiles.d understands *, so you could probably get away with one line for something like that. It doesn't for the 'w' type. Globbing is specified explicitly where it's supported. I don't know if that was an explicit design decision though. You might have yourself an easy patch if you want to contribute.
Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd
On 08/30/2012 07:30 PM, baker.stephe...@gmail.com wrote: On August 31, 2012 02:06:56 AM Mathieu R. wrote: Last update (10 minutes ago) asked me if y want switch from libsystemd to core/systemd. I agreed, and on next reboot, networkmanager was not started automaticly from rc.conf. it work well if y start it by hand (/etc/rc.d/networkmanager start). Does it work if you use systemctl to enable it on boot instead? systemctl enable NetworkManager.service Mathieu, Are you using initscripts or systemd?
Re: [arch-general] lib - usr/lib move, glibc and curl
On 08/22/2012 03:54 PM, Damjan wrote: pacman -Syud --ignore glibc and ended in a broken package manager. pacman is linked against libcurl, which is compiled against glibc 2.16.0 and includes versioned symbols. Luckily I had an old curl package around to temporarily fix the problem and update the system. Others may be out of luck, so... Do you think this needs some more investigation? This is known, and I don't think we can properly fix it, at least not anymore. How about adding pacman to the default failsafe initramfs. That way, if anything goes wrong with a big update like this, one could finish it up from that initramfs. Feel free to do that yourself. I don't want my initrd's to be rescue images as well. And if I did, there'd be a whole bunch of other stuff I'd want too. I have at least one system where I only allocated 32 MB for /boot (my bad, but don't feel like fixing any time soon), and don't need the default initrd to grow. In fact, I've never had a problem that fallback would fix and would rather not even have it... I'd be in favor of a rescue hook though that someone may optionally add.
Re: [arch-general] grub2 + luks + keyfile
On 08/20/2012 04:47 PM, Adrian Pop wrote: Hello, I'm trying to configure grub2 to read a keyfile from a usb flash drive in order to decrypt the root partition. The grub2 wiki page specifies that in order to decrypt the root partition, the following should be added in /etc/default/grub: Just to be clear, it's the mkinitcpio encrypt hook that's reading the keyfile, grub2 seems to be configure just fine (so far). GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:root Also an earlier version of the luks wiki page, that was intended for grub-legacy, mentioned that to decrypt the root partition using a keyfile, the following kernel parameter has to be added: cryptkey=/dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid:vfat:/keyfile So I've attempted to add both of these parameters in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:root cryptkey=/dev/disk/by-uuid/3848-EFD5:vfat:/keyfile I've also added the encrypt hook and vfat module in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf. I don't remember if these are exempt from autodetect. You can try lsinitcpio /boot/initramfs-linux.img | grep fat to verify that it's on there. I think there's also a fat module which is needed by vfat, I don't know if mkinitcpio pulls in module deps as well. You can also try the fallback image. This is displayed while booting up: :: running early hook [udev] :: running hook [udev] :: Triggering uevents... :: running hook [encrypt] Waiting 10 seconds for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/3848-EFD5 ... Keyfile could not be opened. Reverting to passphrase. I know that message kind of looks like the device is not found, but it's likely a problem with mounting the filesystem. The usb flash drive is formated with mkfs.vfat and contains just the keyfile. I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Re: [arch-general] /etc/modules-load.d | /etc/modprobe.d -- options determinative?
On 08/17/2012 08:49 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, Reading the wiki pages regarding /etc/modules-load.d and /etc/modprobe.d, is the only difference that makes /etc/modules-load.d to correct place for the moduleconfname.conf file a lack of options required on module load? Or put another way, if options need to be provided along with the module name on load, then use /etc/modprobe.d/moduleconfname.conf otherwise if just the module name is required, use: /etc/modules-load.d/moduleconfname.conf? That was the only difference I saw in their use in the wiki. Anything else? modprobe.d is for the options, modules-load.d is for loading modules at boot. Modules listed in modprobe.d are NOT loaded automatically. If you want to load a module at boot, with specific options, you need BOTH files. This is a little ugly though, and it seems like all userspace module handling should be done through kmod, so I think ditching modules-load and adding support for a autoload modprobe.d command would be great along with modprobe -A for actually loading all of the autoload modules.
Re: [arch-general] /etc/modules-load.d | /etc/modprobe.d -- options determinative?
On 08/17/2012 09:10 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: On 08/17/2012 10:49 AM, David C. Rankin wrote: Guys, Reading the wiki pages regarding /etc/modules-load.d and /etc/modprobe.d, is the only difference that makes /etc/modules-load.d to correct place for the moduleconfname.conf file a lack of options required on module load? Or put another way, if options need to be provided along with the module name on load, then use /etc/modprobe.d/moduleconfname.conf otherwise if just the module name is required, use: /etc/modules-load.d/moduleconfname.conf? That was the only difference I saw in their use in the wiki. Anything else? Also, for dmraid, the old MODULES=(dm_mod dm_mirror) would be replace by say '/etc/modules-load.d/dmraid.conf' with the contents: # load dm_mod dm_mirror for dmraid dm_mod dm_mirror But what of the 'USEDMRAID=yes' directive presently in the HARDWARE section of rc.conf? Is the call to 'dmraid -i -ay' automatically done if dmraid is specified by HOOKS= in mkinitcpio.conf? Doesn't look like it, from rc.sysinit: 8-- # FakeRAID devices detection [[ $USEDMRAID = [Yy][Ee][Ss] -x $(type -P dmraid) ]] status Activating FakeRAID arrays dmraid -i -ay 8-- Lastly, will the new '/etc/modules-load.d/dmraid.conf' work with the current init before the switch to systemd? Yes, they are identical, initscripts leverages /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-modules-load
Re: [arch-general] simple trick to make dealing with python 2/3 scripts easier
On 08/17/2012 04:14 PM, Ben Booth wrote: Ben Booth wrote: Maybe I'll submit a feature request to the python package maintainer to see if they think it's a good idea. I submitted a feature request in case anyone's interested: https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?do=detailsaction=details.addvotetask_id=31179 Don't know if you did this by accident -- and not a huge deal -- but you shouldn't have included the vote action in the link.
Re: [arch-general] old rc.sysinit?
On 08/14/2012 02:31 PM, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know how Arch used to deal with some init stuff, like configuring virtual consoles, initializing random seed, etc. Is there some way to retrieve older versions of /etc/rc.sysinit? Sure: http://projects.archlinux.org/initscripts.git/refs/tags. If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer. The main Thank you. I'm trying to understand which one-time tasks must be performed on initialization, and how. I have no problem with current defaults, but understanding /etc/rc.sysinit requires reading the source of several C files. If you happen to remember which version was the last that didn't call a systemd binary, great, otherwise I will start browsing. Thanks J. https://projects.archlinux.org/initscripts.git/commit/?id=6aae67a
Re: [arch-general] Screen Scaling Issues
On 08/08/2012 07:36 AM, Alfredo Palhares wrote: Hello, i am having some problems setting up Xorg correctly. I have a ATI Radeon 7750 codename Cape Verde VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7700 Series] I have a problem when i start X, on 1920x1080 the screen is not fully used, i get some black border all around the screen. To fix this i have to open amdcccle and in the DTV(1) section - Adjustments and on Scalling Options i have to move the bar from 0 to zero again. This does solve the problem, but it does not persist between reboots (does not change Xorg.conf at all even as root). Is it possible to set this as an option on the xord.conf ? I probably does, but I failed to find the name of that option. As attachemnt goes my catalyst config file Any sugestions are welcomne. -- Regards Alfredo Palhares Sounds like an underscan/overscan issue. Try xrandr --output output name --set underscan off
Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?
On 08/05/2012 11:52 AM, Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote: I trust Arch devs, they always have good reasons behind their decisions. So, I'm just curious for the election of Zsh[1] in the new install media. [1] http://www.archlinux.org/news/install-media-20120804-available/ Regards http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2012-July/002683.html
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] KDE kdebase-runtime 4.9 dependency changes
On 08/02/2012 08:27 AM, Dan McGee wrote: Noticed this when upgrading yesterday. Suddenly got a lot more junk installed on my system because of the new dep of kdebase-runtime on kdepimlibs. Is this dependency really necessary? Can it not be optional with the KDE programs that actually require it pull it in explicitly? I'd prefer to not have MySQL on my system, in addition to the numerous other programs that got pulled. Anything from my log that is listed as installed was obviously not there before: All I want is k3b, but I just went ahead and removed it when I saw all this new stuff.
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] btrfs-progs
On 07/27/2012 01:04 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: Hi guys, Seems not many of us yet use btrfs, I therefore would like to ask if any users can signoff on the btrfs-progs in testing (i.e. verify that the package appears to work). In particular, I'm interested to hear if someone who uses btrfs-progs and initscripts from testing could verify that the multi-device support still works? If you have the btrfs hook in your initramfs, then please enable udev too and regenerate the image to verify that that also still works. For those who are interested: the change we made was to scan btrfs devices for multi-device support using udev rules as the devices appear rather than doing it unconditionally after all the devices should be ready. This approach should hopefully be more reliable than the old one. Cheers, Tom Last night in a fit of insomnia I decided to run btrfs-convert on my ext4 root. No problems at all so far =) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] How do I should install and configure arch linux
On 07/25/2012 01:49 PM, brainwor...@lavabit.com wrote: And now the main question. If new plan of reorganization of configuration files can not manage without rc.conf, why there is so need to split it? rc.conf should now only contain what is necessary to configure the initscripts. See arch-dev-public for details. So systemd is instead of initscripts? or two technogolies together? systemd comes with a few ad-hoc utilities like systemd-cryptsetup for parsing /etc/cryptsetup. initscripts is just leveraging these utils so that the configuration for either system is exactly the same. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] Roadmap for user-intervention upgrades [was: Still Glibc problems]
On 07/20/2012 12:41 PM, Manolo Martínez wrote: It would also be nice to know a bit more of the rationale behind the moves. I'm sure that they are all for the best, and I trust arch decision-makers (and one can find out more about the changes by reading blogs and forum discussions), but still it'd be good to have a small FAQ posted to arch-general before each of the biggish moves. I don't know how it can get any more transparent. Most of the discussion and defense (if necessary) happens on arch-dev-public. Then there is usually some mention on arch-general, and always announcements. Look at the past three announcements: filesystem, /lib, and grub2. It's all there. It's rare that you can actually hose your system to a point where you can't fix it from the install image and using pacman -r or setting up a chroot. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?
On 07/18/2012 12:46 PM, mike cloaked wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc partitions and partition from scratch I can create a 2MiB partition (using MBR and NOT GPT partitioning) before the first formatted partition on the HD and install grub2 during the base install. However can someone please tell me explicitly if, for a system with only BIOS (no UEFI at all), and no GPT partitioning but just plain old MBR partitioning - is the recommended 2MiB post-MBR gap still a requirement for that specific situation for grub2 to work? I use grub2 with msdos partitioning and no gap. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] drop slim in favor of lightdm
On 05/08/2012 09:53 AM, Seblu wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Christian Hesse l...@eworm.de wrote: Any thoughts on that? I was interested by your suggestion as slim user since 2 years. Consolekit integration (and my ugly workaround) is my only issue with it. So i took the time to test this light login manager, and my conclusion is : It's not light. There are dependencies to gtk3 and qt without any greeter installed. gtk greater needs gnome-common, kde greater needs kdelibs, so if I have to use kde or gnome i would look to kdm or gdm instead of a not so light lightdm. I don't think those deps in the AUR are correct. You can ship lightdm without the libraries in which case it won't depend on the graphical libs. I think some other distributions ship the lightdm binary itself, then have separate packages for the greeter libs. Also, I have the gtk greeter installed and no gnome-common, just gtk3 and glib2. Right now the biggest issue with LightDM IMO is that it uses AccountsService -- if installed -- with no config to force it's own users.conf file. I don't think we can compare slim and lightdm ! I tested xdm (with xdm-arch-theme), it's light and have consolekit integration. Tobias has just released slim with consolekit integration and it works great (except for the omission of removing pam ck connector). Cheers, signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] pacman ignore packages by pattern?
On 03/19/2012 03:39 AM, XeCycle wrote: 17:37:21 $ sudo pacman -Su --ignore fluid* Do you have something in your working directory named fluid...? Try single-quoting it.
Re: [arch-general] Support additional binary formats at boot
Does this really need to be done automatically? Up until now all of the mounting that rc.sysinit does is essential. This is definitely optional. Can't it just be a commented line in fstab in the filesystems package? ( essential except /dev/shm maybe... a fstab.d would be nice =/ )
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [RFC] merge /bin, /sbin, /lib into /usr/bin and /usr/lib
On 03/03/2012 10:49 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: I'm against moving kernel modules in any other directory because is NOT improving cross-distro at all and mostly breaks every application that expects /lib/modules/`unamer -r`. This is an important point: referencing /lib/modules/ will still work exactly as before, due to the symlink. Otherwise, this would have been crazy. -t /lib - /usr/lib/ /usr/lib/{modules,firmware} - /kernel/{modules,firmware}/
Re: [arch-general] renaming files
On 03/01/2012 04:13 PM, pete wrote: Hi folks Bit sort of off topic but hopefully ok I have some 350 picture files with names along the lines of IMG_7127 EOS-1D Mark III copy.jpgi would like to rename them all to more like IMG_7127.jpg i have tried a few times tonight and cant get my head around it anyone got a script that can do it ThanksPete . I just picked vim-renamer in the AUR because I got tired of the limitations of rename. It opens up a browse-able buffer (like when you open a directory with vim). It's got a pretty clean interface and I haven't had any problems with it so far.
Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome
On 02/25/2012 12:07 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: I would like to move away from Gnome, which I don't need at all since I only need to launch: - emacs - conkeror - thunderbird - gnome-terminal and I don't even use the menu but Alt-f2 for that. The main problem though is that on this laptop (a dell latitude E6420) if I'm not using gnome I can't make it suspend properly. The strange thing is that if I am in a gnome-session closing the lid or calling suspend from the gnome menu everything works. But if I fire up awesome only then closing the lid doesn't work anymore. So the question is, what is gnome magically firing up that other window managers don't? I would also like to try xmonad finally, but I've never been able to configure it yet. I have an ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs file (the default one copied) that compiles perfectly, but if I try a startx the screen just stays blank, without logging any error in the Xorg.0.log. Any idea of what it could be? I've been moving away from gnome too. But piece-by-piece while I learn how to replace the components I need. The first step I did was take the /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome-fallback.session file and put it in ~/.config/gnome-session/sessions/, then edit it to replace the window manager with openbox. You could do the same with awesome. FYI: I've found that some of the autostart applications that I want in /etc/xdg/autostart require the session name to be gnome gnome* or gnome-fallback to work properly. -Matt
Re: [arch-general] Source control on /etc
On 02/23/2012 12:48 AM, Alfredo Palhares wrote: Hello Don, Excerpts from Don deJuan's message of Thu Feb 23 07:35:52 +0100 2012: What is considered the Arch way to have version control over the configs in /etc? I would like to be able to see at least a few changes back in my config history at the minimum. I too keep my /etc directory under version control. I have a a detached worktree. Wich enables me to have the .git directory outside of /etc. The process is simple: You create a bare repo: $ mkdir etc.git $ git init --bare Now lets congigure it to chek the files elsewhere: $ git config core.worktree /etc And export these vars to you current session $ export GIT_DIR=/path/to/etc.git $ export GIT_WORK_TREE=/etc Tip here a script[1] easy to work it. Just rember to run it with . or source *not* with sh since it open another bash session and kills it when script is done. Now you would be able to git add and git commit in your etc while keeping it clean. :) I have seen the package etckeeper and it does not seem to really fully be setup to work with pacman. Both AUR packages are very outdated. etckeeper doesn't really fit pacman cause pacman doesn't merge files automatically, only apt does that (if you silly enough to configure it to do that :p ). Also etckeeper commits all the files in /etc wich makes quite dummy commits. They not really resetable... I use use it on debian server only as the last resource. The Arch way is quite simpler, every time you merge a pacnew or add a feature to a config file you commit it and keep the same workflow as a normal code repo. Much simpler. Would I just be best off just copying the ones I change and then push the changes to a separate dir that is under control of say git? What methods do you employ? Well this is kinda hard to do (believe me i tried) Also having the .git on /etc and other dirs like $HOME is quite anoying since i get the (branch) in red on my bash prompt[2]. I hope this can help you. [1] https://github.com/masterkorp/Home-files/blob/master/scripts/export_git.sh [2] https://github.com/masterkorp/Home-files/blob/master/.bashrc What about permissions and ownership? These are pretty important for /etc.
Re: [arch-general] ffmpeg and libav
On 02/11/2012 12:55 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: On 02/11/2012 07:30 PM, Ionut Biru wrote: On 02/11/2012 09:26 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: I am not part of the libav team, but I know many developers and I followed the story of the fork. I then also noticed that my beloved arch is still using ffmpeg and libav is not even in the official repository (but only in AUR). Is there a reason for that? because nothing in our repositories requires libav Everything requiring ffmpeg might require libav instead, which is quite a lot of stuff. There are quite a few good reasons to switch over and many already did: - debian unstable (http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2011-December/023070.html) the inclusion in debian is questionable and I don't want to open the pandora box and start a long and boring discussion about this. see my point 1). Which was? I've seen a couple of threads on the forum and it's quite shocking how much FUD and wrong information there is in there, doesn't it make you think the fact that also gstreamer and VLC are using libav? What are mplayer and mplayer2 using? I was trying to figure this out recently.
Re: [arch-general] backing up a blackberry phone
On 02/07/2012 04:31 PM, P Nikolic wrote: Hi .. I have a Balckberry Curve i could do with backing up again on suse i used to use BarryBackup has anyone provided this for Arch or what do people use to backup their Balckberrys .. Cheers Pete . Search AUR. If it isn't in AUR, then likely not. Create your own pkgbuild or compile from source. Alternatively, you can make a request on the BBS[1]. [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewforum.php?id=38
Re: [arch-general] Updates
On 01.31.2012 04:38, Myra Nelson wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 03:13, Ionut Biru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: Thanks for the info. There are many things I still don't know. I figured by rebuilding them it would tell me if something was wrong on my machine. Another reason for me not to file a bug report. The problem was between the keyboard and the chair and I don't think the devs can fix that one. Myra If you are going to use testing, you should subscribe/read arch-dev-public.
Re: [arch-general] KDE 4.8
On 01/26/2012 03:27 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: On 26/01/12 01:14, G. Schlisio wrote: Am 26.01.2012 00:01, schrieb Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista: Hi, When kde 4.8 will be available in extra repossitories?? hey, dont put pressure on the great people compiling, testing and packing for us. i think, we arch users really cant complain about not beeing fed with fresh updates. btw: dont forget, these people are volunteers and kde does not compile in a minute… It's already in [testing] And a cautionary warning about testing... *Warning*: Be careful when enabling [testing]. Your system may break after you perform an update with the [testing] repository enabled. Only experienced users who know how to deal with potential system breakage should use it. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Testing#.5Btesting.5D
Re: [arch-general] Authorized Resume Devices and Linux 3.2
May not be much help, but Prior to 3.2 I had to use echo USB0 /proc/acpi/wakeup to allow my keyboard/mouse to wake up the computer (USB0 was disabled by default). Now with 3.2 this no longer the case (USB0 is enabled by default). In my case, I want it disabled since I have my keyboard + mouse attached with a KVM. With USB0 enabled, the keyboard mouse will wake up the system. All it takes is a bump of the mouse and next thing I know the system is back on. TLDR; Something changed, in regards to the suspend code, in 3.2 ~pyther On 01/19/2012 02:17 PM, Bastien Dejean wrote: Hi, My '/etc/rc.local' contains the following lines: echo EHC1 /proc/acpi/wakeup echo EHC2 /proc/acpi/wakeup Those commands were working fine before Linux 3.2. But now, they seem to be ineffective (i.e. the corresponding devices are marked as '*disabled' in the output of `cat /proc/acpi/wakeup`). Greetings,
Re: [arch-general] Authorized Resume Devices and Linux 3.2
On 01/19/2012 02:17 PM, Bastien Dejean wrote: Hi, My '/etc/rc.local' contains the following lines: echo EHC1 /proc/acpi/wakeup echo EHC2 /proc/acpi/wakeup Those commands were working fine before Linux 3.2. But now, they seem to be ineffective (i.e. the corresponding devices are marked as '*disabled' in the output of `cat /proc/acpi/wakeup`). Greetings, I can't believe I topped posted! Argh! So so sorry! May not be much help, but Prior to 3.2 I had to use echo USB0 /proc/acpi/wakeup to allow my keyboard/mouse to wake up the computer (USB0 was disabled by default). Now with 3.2 this no longer the case (USB0 is enabled by default). In my case, I want it disabled since I have my keyboard + mouse attached with a KVM. With USB0 enabled, the keyboard mouse will wake up the system. All it takes is a bump of the mouse and next thing I know the system is back on. TLDR; Something changed, in regards to the suspend code, in 3.2 ~pyther
Re: [arch-general] pacman update conflict
On 01/08/2012 06:12 PM, Sander Jansen wrote: :: Synchronizing package databases... testing 29.7 KiB 238K/s 00:00 [##] 100% core 102.1 KiB 296K/s 00:00 [##] 100% extra 1170.6 KiB 816K/s 00:01 [##] 100% community-testing 11.1 KiB 244K/s 00:00 [##] 100% community999.7 KiB 673K/s 00:01 [##] 100% multilib-testing1574.0 B 71.5M/s 00:00 [##] 100% multilib 67.8 KiB 339K/s 00:00 [##] 100% :: The following packages should be upgraded first : pacman :: Do you want to cancel the current operation :: and upgrade these packages now? [Y/n] y resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: gcc: requires gcc-libs=4.6.2-1 :: valgrind: requires glibc2.15 Any suggestions on how to fix this conflict? Thanks, Sander I occasionally get dependency errors when there is a pacman upgrade. I've gotten around it every single time by explicitly update pacman (pacman -S pacman), followed by my normal upgrade (pacman -Su)
Re: [arch-general] pacman update conflict
On 01/08/2012 08:55 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Matthew Monacodgbale...@0x01b.net wrote: I occasionally get dependency errors when there is a pacman upgrade. I've gotten around it every single time by explicitly update pacman (pacman -S pacman), followed by my normal upgrade (pacman -Su) Do you have 'SyncFirst = pacman' in your pacman.conf? yes