Re: [arch-general] Booting Arch under Xen via pv-grub. Was: Re: [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 18:16, Liu Yu Fei, Eric hoveringnowi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: Are you building your own kernel? These files are in the Arch stock kernel package: no..I am using the stock kernel i686 There are no Xen modules in i686 package. Not sure if it is intentional or not. P.S.: please avoid top posting. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
[arch-general] Booting Arch under Xen via pv-grub. Was: Re: [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:49, Liu Yu Fei, Eric hoveringnowi...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot boot on i686 pv-grub Xen... Is there any special setting in mkinitcpio.conf? My mkinitcpio.conf has: MODULES=xen-blkfront xen-kbdfront xen-netfront evtchn xenfs HOOKS=base udev autodetect filesystems Hosted on Linode. There was some issue with pv-grub in the past which they patched, not sure how the situation is with vanilla pv-grub now. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.7-1
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Latest kernel is in testing, please signoff for both arches. Booted successfully via pv-grub under Xen. Sign off x86_64. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Another suggested patch for the init scripts
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:08, Magnus Therning mag...@therning.org wrote: The following change takes into consideration that the size of the entropy pool is given in bits in 2.6 kernels. I'm shamelessly assuming that no one in the Arch community would be running a 2.4 kernel :-) Looks like you forgot to attach the path. ;-) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.34-2
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 15:03, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
This release will be moved to core after signoff, together with
linux-firmware, initscripts, udev and mkinitcpio. Changes compared to -1:
Remove kernel26-firmware package, it is replaced by linux-firmware
added new tcp options FS#19604 (tpowa)
Enable devtmpfs
Add makedepends to build kernel26-{manpages,docs} properly
Fix makepkg -R
Please sign off.
signoff x86_64
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Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.66 and cryptsetup 1.1.1
On 2010-05-28, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 27.05.2010 23:08, schrieb Ray Kohler: You need force option for cryptsetup because 1.1.1_rc2-1 sorts as newer than 1.1.1-1: warning: cryptsetup: local (1.1.1_rc2-1) is newer than testing (1.1.1-1) I think I'm not going to add it. The 'force' option introduces some very weird behaviour from what I remember. As the rc2 package was only in testing, it shouldn't be a big deal, testing users should know what they're doing and upgrade manually. Not sure what weird behaviour you mean. Anyway, the package works and my root and four other partitions are mounted without issues, so here's my signoff for x86_64. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] New device-mapper, lvm2 and cryptsetup packages in testing
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 21:21, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: I put updated device-mapper/lvm2 2.02.64 and cryptsetup 1.1.1-rc2 packages to testing. These packages enable udev synchronization to finally get rid of all race conditions related to udev rules. I also cleaned up the PKGBUILDs massively and removed all static binaries and libraries from the packages. Before cryptsetup can move to core, we obviously need to wait for the final 1.1.1 release, and libpopt, libgcrypt and libgpg-error need to move from /usr/lib to /lib, so that initscripts are able to open encryption even if /usr isn't available yet. Pleae give feedback on these packages. I sign off device-mapper and cryptsetup (x86_64) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] b43-fwcutter-013-1
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:05, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Am Freitag 30 April 2010 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: Hi bumped to latest version, please signoff both arches. anyone? Signoff x86_64. Tested with firmware version 4.178.10.4. P.S.: I'm going to sell my laptop, so unless another dev has b43 device we should start relying on user signoffs for the package (I assume that the signoff procedure includes checking if the produced firmware files actually work). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.61-1
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:48, Eric Bélanger snowmanisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, lvm2/device-mapper 2.02.61-1 are now in testing: - minor upstream update - Add optional lvmwait= command line parameter, fixes FS#18428 Please test and signoff. Signoffs from users are welcome. I sign off device-mapper on x86_64. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.33-1
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 16:46, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Hi guys, kernel 2.6.33 first test run ... Enjoy have fun and give me feedback, I have Intel 965GM video and I get this: input: Video Bus as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A03:00/LNXVIDEO:01/input/input5 ACPI: Video Device [VID1] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no) [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter video.allow_duplicates=1if the current driver doesn't work. However, I don't see any consequences. Everything works as usual, so perhaps this is not new, I just don't check the dmesg often. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.33-1
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 16:46, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Hi guys, kernel 2.6.33 first test run ... Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16715 # added Linux Container support Nice! Arch Linux changes: - merged ext2/ext3 support into ext4 module When there is ext2/ext3 in MODULES in mkinitcpio.conf instead of filesystem in HOOKS (as on my VPS), then image that is automatically regenerated during kernel26 package update will be broken. I'm not sure how many people can be hit by this. Most should have filesystems in HOOKS, and it is recommended to read the output during upgrade (but mkinitcpio says SUCCESS, so this can be overlooked). Can we add an alias from ext2/ext3 to ext4, or just add a warning to post_install? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] WARNING: mkinitcpio 0.5.99.3 (kill-klibc) live in testing!
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 19:55, solsTiCe d'Hiver solstice.dhi...@gmail.com wrote: hi. i switched to [testing] for some other packages. but upon upgrading mkinitcpio, the initramfs (/boot/kernel26.img) has not been recreated ? is this normal ? expected ? or a bug ? will it be upgraded at the next kernel upgrade ? It is normal. There is no need to recreate the kernel image on mkinitcpio upgrade (and anyway mkinitcpio cannot know for sure what images it should recreate). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.32-1
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 18:29, Emmanuel Benisty benist...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: What's your chipset? Allan's chipset? No such issues here on 945GM. Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 965GM I have the same chipset. No issues. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] WARNING: openntpd upgrade breaks openssh on next restart
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 09:48, Vesa Kaihlavirta vpkai...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I made a screwup on the openntpd package which nastily reveals a weakness in openssh and filesystems. I moved away from using /var/empty/ as a privsep directory, and removed the directory from the package. But since it's empty, it got removed from the system as well in the upgrade. So if you're using openntpd and openssh, BE EXTRA CAREFUL with your next upgrade. openssh does not start if /var/empty/ is not there. Quick fix: after doing pacman -Suy, do mkdir /var/empty as root. Longer fix: openssh, or perhaps the filesystems package should create /var/empty/ and put a hidden file in it so idiots like me won't cause accidents in the future. Correction: the latest openssh package (3.5p1-2) works around missing /var/empty by creating it in rc.d daemon. P.S.: I'm not sure putting a hidden file in /var/empty is not against it's purpose (which I suppose is to be empty). We are discussing ways to eliminate the problem completely. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] google wave
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 00:08, Giovanni Scafora giova...@archlinux.org wrote: 2009/10/31, Artyom Smirnov smirnof...@gmail.com: Just got another 12 invites in my account. Sending one to you. could you please give me one too? thanks. Is there something still left? I'd like to get one (go my gmail account via invite too), though I didn't imagine my usage if it yet, except testing. So if anyone send me one - big thank you! -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] google wave
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 20:23, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: A way for Google to find out who's talkin to whom and what about. And then probably make money on it. Big Brother in its purest form. Well, since it is based on XMPP and open [1] it can be used outside of Google too, and adding encryption to it should not be a problem. However as long as anyone using a wave is doing this via Google - Google will be able to see the information. But this is also true for GTalk, GMail etc. (and not only Google's services) So say hi to Google because it sees this mailing list in this very moment. ;-) Seriously though, the problem with Big Brother is getting more serious every year. [1]: http://www.waveprotocol.org/draft-protocol-specs -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 02:15, Hussam Al-Tayeb ht990...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 00:56 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:08:00 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org: It is very unlikely to be kernel related. And 2.6.31 has been in testing far too long, it should really be moved. I just installed kernel26 2.6.31.3 from testing and can't reproduce this issue. I have encrypted my whole system except of the /boot partition of course. I can unlock every partition by reading the keys from USB stick and by entering the passphrases. So I also don't think that this is kernel related. Heiko my root partition passphrase (arch asks for at initramfs stage) always works and it accepts it correctly. This issue happens when you try to unlock a partition later on. This means that if you don't have an encrypted /home on a different partition, you won't see this problem. I have 4 encrypted partitions besides root and don't have this problem, but I have real passwords instead of ASK in /etc/crypttab (otherwise I would be very lazy to enter them 5 times instead of one :-P) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] can't unlock a luks encrypted partition. (urgent).
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 02:56, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:35:06 +0300 schrieb Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com: I have 4 encrypted partitions besides root and don't have this problem, but I have real passwords instead of ASK in /etc/crypttab (otherwise I would be very lazy to enter them 5 times instead of one :-P) It would probably be a bit more secure to write a keyfile onto a USB stick either as a file or with dd and apply one of those patches to /etc/rc.sysinit: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11648 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15016 I don't see why it's more secure. And if you add one of these lines to your kernel line in grub's menu.lst then you don't need to enter one single passphrase. Just plugin the USB stick before and unplug it after booting. ;-) And that's way it's much less secure, someone just takes your USB stick and logins. P.S.: sorry for the offtopic. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] X server reset when I press enter (!!!)
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 17:21, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Dario carotin...@yahoo.it wrote: Hi! I'm experimenting a really bad behaviour from the X server, since yesterday night's update, which involved mainly KDE. When I press ENTER, in whichever applications or DM, the X server randomly reset just as I pressed ctrl-alt-backspace! For example, I had to start this email three times, and I have to resist to press the damn key. As I said, this happens in any applications (inkscape, NetBeans, Lyx, xterm, kmail, kwrite, anything), in KDE and FluxBox. I'm running NVIDIA proprietary drivers in a twinview configuration. I'm going to do some testing to isolate better the causes, but in the meantime, does someone of you has a suggestions? Thanks in advance and sorry for the bad formatting of this email: I can't press Enter...:( Ciao! Carotinho Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com I would start by checking some logs. /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/.xsession-errors dmesg any kde logs ? the relevant part of pacman.log could be useful to see the exact list of updated packages. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] package sources on ftp.archlinux.org
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 23:57, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Firmicus firmi...@gmx.net wrote: The reason for doing so is simple: the TeXLive license *requires* us to provide the sources :) BTW if you have problems with my texlive-scripts, feel free to ask ;) Aren't the docs in the same source tarballs? Couldn't you just pull the existing texlive tarballs and use those? Don't we have a special script that downloads sources of packages? Why the sources of texlive are in /other/texlive/ then? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:53, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 01:38, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 16:09, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I am looking for hosting that support Arch. Most probably this will be a VPS hosting (because of price), so official Arch Linux support is required. [skipped] I hope to get things ready for deployment around December-January. Until then I'm close to start with VPSVille UK and use its 8$ plan as a sandbox. When demands for a hosting will rise I may move to Linode. So, here's my experience with VPSVille UK: [skipped] More experience: * downloaded files from ftp.archlinux.org at ~40-70 MB/s * the VPS is running under OpenVZ * the control panel is primitive * it is possible to do some advanced things with it though, like creating TAP/TUN or FUSE devices * multiple backup snapshots are not possible * only direct SSH connection is possible (i.e. no web terminal) * no rescue environment available * for some reason the time was broken even after I fixed rc.conf and rebooted, so I replaced /etc/localtime manually (cannot confirm if this works - see the end of the message) * Arch Linux template is of bad quality: besides .pac* files in /etc I mentioned earlier it also has a typo in hosts.allow that results in ssh access denied after system update, and the worst - the local pacman database is broken (specifically libarchive and pacman package entries) and to update the system you have to temporary disable SyncFirst in pacman.conf otherwise pacman won't update itself due to false file conflicts (--force will have no effect due to SyncFirst); all this because it was updated from 0.8. I've complained on the forums, will see if they will update the template (obviously I've fixed the system, but it would be nice to have a correctly built template for new installs so users won't have to spent their time on fixing these problems). And yesterday I started getting errors about inability to allocate PTY when trying to login via ssh, so I cannot login anymore. Though I'm not sure it the problem is on their side, or it's somehow caused by Arch update (udev, maybe?). Their support responds quickly though. I tried only forum so far, now filed a ticket in their support system. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
2009/10/6 Sebastian Köhler sebkoeh...@whoami.org.uk: Roman Kyrylych wrote: And yesterday I started getting errors about inability to allocate PTY when trying to login via ssh, so I cannot login anymore. Though I'm not sure it the problem is on their side, or it's somehow caused by Arch update (udev, maybe?). Got a reply from support very quickly: Unfortunately some update you installed on Arch has broken this. I've recreated the devices for you and the script will now work from our control panel as well. My vps runs on xen and this udev update http://www.archlinux.org/news/457/ killed my arch vps too. But my provider temporally replaced the Arch Kernel with a newer Debian Kernel so i could compile a new Kernel with Xen support. LOL! How could I forget about this one? :-) $ uname -a Linux x.vps8ecf0be2.com 2.6.18-128.2.1.el5.028stab064.7 #1 SMP Wed Aug 26 15:47:17 MSD 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:58, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/6 Sebastian Köhler sebkoeh...@whoami.org.uk: Roman Kyrylych wrote: And yesterday I started getting errors about inability to allocate PTY when trying to login via ssh, so I cannot login anymore. Though I'm not sure it the problem is on their side, or it's somehow caused by Arch update (udev, maybe?). Got a reply from support very quickly: Unfortunately some update you installed on Arch has broken this. I've recreated the devices for you and the script will now work from our control panel as well. My vps runs on xen and this udev update http://www.archlinux.org/news/457/ killed my arch vps too. But my provider temporally replaced the Arch Kernel with a newer Debian Kernel so i could compile a new Kernel with Xen support. LOL! How could I forget about this one? :-) $ uname -a Linux x.vps8ecf0be2.com 2.6.18-128.2.1.el5.028stab064.7 #1 SMP Wed Aug 26 15:47:17 MSD 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Turned out that this was not the case. The problem was caused by installing /sbin/udevadm when udev was updated (as I see the admin have renamed udevadm to _udevadm). Initscripts check for /sbin/udevadm to see if udev should be used or static /dev is in place. And because after update /sbin/udevadm was created - the /dev was broken by udev after reboot. So the solution is to remove the udev package (it's not needed anyway) and put it into IgnorePkg so it's not installed on system update. Actually, udev should probably be in optdepends of initscripts instead of depends. The support staff fixed the Reset Terminal Devices script to also take care of ptys. That was very quick. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 13:29, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Turned out that this was not the case. The problem was caused by installing /sbin/udevadm when udev was updated (as I see the admin have renamed udevadm to _udevadm). Initscripts check for /sbin/udevadm to see if udev should be used or static /dev is in place. And because after update /sbin/udevadm was created - the /dev was broken by udev after reboot. So the solution is to remove the udev package (it's not needed anyway) and put it into IgnorePkg so it's not installed on system update. Oops, that was wrong because of the way our initscripts handle /dev. Anyway, I think I know all pitfalls of VPSVille-based VPS, so I can use it as a playground. Will definitely use some more advanced (and less cheap) hosting in the future. Linode, SliceHost and VPS.net both look as good candidates. (VPS.net does not have Arch template, but is possible to create custom template once installed). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
2009/10/6 Sebastian Köhler sebkoeh...@whoami.org.uk: Roman Kyrylych wrote: Please suggest some german providers with English site control panel. Unfortunately all providers I know of providing arch vps don't have english websites. Okay, then suggest some good German-speaking VPS hostings. So far only http://goekal-it.de/ was proposed. Anyone knows some other good VPS hosting in Europe? I know about http://www.intovps.com/ which has very good tariff plans, but its European datacenter is in some small town in Romania. :-/ (or should I choose it because the country's name is similar to my name? :-P). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] archweb isn't updating its record.
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 22:04, Andrea Scarpino and...@archlinux.org wrote: 2009/10/3 Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com: What confused me is that it was taking so long. I'm glad it works now hahh. Thanks. Maybe still not work. I see system-config-printer 1.12 on web, 1.13 with pacman; libical 0.43 on web, 0.44 with pacman... Also: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=arch=repo=q=vim+last_update=limit=50 no 'vim' in the list (!), but: $ LANG=C pacman -Si vim Repository : extra Name : vim Version: 7.2.266-1 -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] archweb isn't updating its record.
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 22:48, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Also: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=arch=repo=q=vim+last_update=limit=50 no 'vim' in the list (!), but: $ LANG=C pacman -Si vim Repository : extra Name : vim Version : 7.2.266-1 How did you get that url ? From the main page click More in Recent Packages block, then search for vim. When I look for vim, it directs me to : http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=vim If I change vim+ to vim in your url, it seems to work. Yes, seems to be fixed now (with either URL). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] archweb isn't updating its record.
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 22:54, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 22:48, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Also: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=arch=repo=q=vim+last_update=limit=50 no 'vim' in the list (!), but: $ LANG=C pacman -Si vim Repository : extra Name : vim Version : 7.2.266-1 How did you get that url ? From the main page click More in Recent Packages block, then search for vim. When I look for vim, it directs me to : http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=vim If I change vim+ to vim in your url, it seems to work. Yes, seems to be fixed now (with either URL). Hah! Found the reason. The problem was with the extra space: vim . The search function should trim the text entered in the search field. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] let's discuss /srv again
2009/10/2 Sergej Pupykin pupyki...@gmail.com: Hi, I want to discuss using /srv directory in packages (For reference: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16410) Of course I can easy sed and rebuild all my web packages, but I want to know reason why we disable /srv in packages? IMO web apps should not even be packed as packages. It's easy to download sources from an official site and install in whatever user's webserver directory is. Yes, packaging a webapp is nice for automatic upgrading with pacman, but users can have multiple web servers with multiple vhosts in /srv, so often installing something there won't make it working anyway, and user will copy/move/symlink the app to whatever directory is right for user's webserver config scheme, which is against the idea that package files (except configs) should not be touched by user, but only by package manager. Would it be good if I replace /srv/http with /var/www/package or something like this? No, /var is not good either. I can think about something like /usr/share/src/webapp, but anyway that does not make much sense, comparing to just installing the sources manually. :-/ -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] let's discuss /srv again
2009/10/2 Sergej Pupykin pupyki...@gmail.com: I put new phpmyadmin into community-testing To use it you should: - add FollowSymlinks options - append directories to php.ini open_basedir = /usr/share/webapps/:/etc/webapps - change web-alias to /usr/share/webapps/phpMyAdmin What do you think about this solution? Safe Mode (which includes open_basedir) is deprecated in PHP 5.3, and will be removed in 6.0.0. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] let's discuss /srv again
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 13:23, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Sergej Pupykin schrieb: Patching them is overkill, it would be an example of the unnecessary patching we do not want in Arch. I would keep them self-contained, no matter which solution will be used in the end. I wouldn't even have such a big problem with having configuration in /usr/share/www/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php or so. In any way, filling /srv with data from pacman is a bad idea, /home and /srv should be user territory only. It is not problem for user, but as I understand it should not be modificable files in /usr/share/ There are many shoulds here: - You should not unnecessarily patch applications. - You should not fill /srv or /home with pacman data - You should not put user-modifiable files in /usr/share The last should is IMO the weakest of all. You can easily avoid violating the first two though. I would say this is the best solution, but it would be great to have some more opinions from other devs and TUs here, maybe even some from our overlord. Modifiable files are not allowed in /usr/share according to FHS. But we have /opt which is intended for self-containing apps which is exactly what webapps are. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 01:38, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 16:09, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I am looking for hosting that support Arch. Most probably this will be a VPS hosting (because of price), so official Arch Linux support is required. [skipped] I hope to get things ready for deployment around December-January. Until then I'm close to start with VPSVille UK and use its 8$ plan as a sandbox. When demands for a hosting will rise I may move to Linode. So, here's my experience with VPSVille UK: * the registration is ultrafast, I paid with PayPal and got the account in a minute * root access via ssh is allowed but the machine is initially stopped * there are some .pacnew/.pacsave files in /etc * there is an empty /fastboot directory * installed packages include base, base-devel groups, openssh and vim (vim brings some x11 libs, python and ruby) * package versions are from 2009-02-18 * rc.conf has: HARDWARECLOCK=localtime TIMEZONE=Canada/Pacific (thus the date is invalid) . . . DAEMONS=(syslog-ng network netfs crond sshd) . . . lo=lo 127.0.0.1 INTERFACES=(lo venet0 venet0_0 venet0_0 ) venet0=venet0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 broadcast 0.0.0.0 rt_venet0=-net ip netmask 255.255.255.255 dev venet0 rt_default=default gw ip ROUTES=( rt_venet0 rt_default ) venet0_0=venet0:0 ip netmask 255.255.255.255 broadcast 0.0.0.0 * more info: # uname -a Linux hostname 2.6.18-128.2.1.el5.028stab064.7 #1 SMP Wed Aug 26 15:47:17 MSD 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux # ls /dev console fdinitctl null pts shm stdin tty zero core full log ptmx random stderr stdout urandom # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on none 5.9G 0 5.9G 0% /dev/shm # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 65536 8956 56580 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 8956 56580 Swap:0 0 0 Will be playing with it this weekend. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 08:31, nez...@allurelinux.org wrote: Thank you for the openhosting link . They only charge for the bandwidth used and that's cool . They also charge for RAM and HDD used (RAM is the most expensive). The interesting thing is that they use KVM, which is quite rare yet (found only a couple of other smaller providers that use KVM too). Arch's standard kernel runs in paravirtualized mode in KVM which is nice. With the active development of virtio-based drivers and RedHat going to provide an enterprise KVM-based platform I think KVM will become more popular in the future. I contacted VPSVille yesterday wondering what arch(s) do they support .They have both 32bit 64bit kernels but unlike Debian Ubuntu and CentOS , they only offer i686 Arch templates (and that piece of info took the support people sometime to figure out!!) oh, thanks for the info. I wish Arch was a choice in serverpronto.com offerings . Hm, The World’s Most Affordable Dedicated Server... They even have 5$ promo server. :-) While thinking about it - it is possible to install Arch on any system (so any provider can be chosen), but that requires more work: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_From_Existing_Linux Xen: http://wiki.slicehost.com/doku.php?id=installing_an_arbitrary_linux_distro_on_your_slice OpenVZ: http://wiki.openvz.org/Archlinux_Template_creation -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
[arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
Hi all! I am looking for hosting that support Arch. Most probably this will be a VPS hosting (because of price), so official Arch Linux support is required. So far the list include: http://www.slicehost.com/ http://vpslink.com/ (a subsidiary of http://www.spry.com/) http://www.vpsville.com/arch-vps (also .co.uk and .co.ca) http://www.linode.com/ http://lylix.net/ https://www.sevenl.net/ (they have donated a server for Arch, and provide a dedicated hosting with Arch too) If there is someone who has experience with these providers - I would be very thankful for information. Also if someone knows about other providers that could join the list - let me know. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Netbook recommendations
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 20:16, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: So in the next few weeks, I would like to buy a netbook. The market is saturated, so I'd like to ask for some advice here. What do you guys think of the current offerings? What's considered the best now-a-days? What kinds of netbooks do Arch users have? Things to consider: * Intel US15W (GMA500, Poulsbo) is more energy effective, but has a bad proprietary driver (free driver is in the works, but I doubt it is usable). * My coworker's girlfriend's Acer Aspire One died. Twice. * Read reviews, there are lots of them. (even http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_netbooks :)) It is better to know small things before buying, otherwise they may become very annoying. * Some models have ridiculously high prices that are not justified by the cost of components. * Don't buy with Windows! :-P -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VPS hosting with Arch
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 16:09, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I am looking for hosting that support Arch. Most probably this will be a VPS hosting (because of price), so official Arch Linux support is required. So far the list include: http://www.slicehost.com/ http://vpslink.com/ (a subsidiary of http://www.spry.com/) http://www.vpsville.com/arch-vps (also .co.uk and .co.ca) http://www.linode.com/ http://lylix.net/ https://www.sevenl.net/ (they have donated a server for Arch, and provide a dedicated hosting with Arch too) If there is someone who has experience with these providers - I would be very thankful for information. Also if someone knows about other providers that could join the list - let me know. Thanks everyone for comments! So here are my preliminary thoughts: * Linode offers more (esp. RAM) than Slicehost and others for 20$, and they even provide 64-bit 2.6.30.5 Xen kernel (and even more - allow using a custom kernel with PV-GRUB). * Lylix and SevenL offers less than others in 20-25$ price range. * VPSLink and VPSVille start from 8$ (64M enough for a homepage?). * VPSVille has a datacenter in the UK, which gives me roughly twice lower ping delays than Canada/USA. Anyone knows other good providers in EU? * Found an interesting provider: http://openhosting.com/ which uses KVM and has an interesting pricing scheme. I hope to get things ready for deployment around December-January. Until then I'm close to start with VPSVille UK and use its 8$ plan as a sandbox. When demands for a hosting will rise I may move to Linode. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Last couple of updates Knocked my Wireless -- OUT (atheros/madwifi/ath_pci)
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 04:02, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Listmates, I'm not sure where to start troubleshooting this problem. For months and months, ever since I installed Arch, my Atheros wifi (through ath0) has always just worked right out of the box. No biggie. You setup your /etc/network.d/mywpa.conf and add your config to the NETWORKS entry and then each time I would turn on my box, up came the network. That is, until the updates this past week or so. My config is still the same. The mywpa.conf file is: [skipped] What in the world could have changed in the past week or so that is presenting my wireless from being brought up at boot?? It is always useless when someone says something like since recent updates because it does not tell _anything_ about what packages were upgraded. Please post the relevant part of pacman.log otherwise all we can do is just guessing. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] KMS console problem with non-us (french) keyboard
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 13:41, didier gaumet didier.gau...@libertysurf.fr wrote: KMS console problem with non-us (french) keyboard Hi all, I am presently using an up-to-date Archlinux on a laptop with an Intel 915 chipset. In the past I have tried KMS succesfully to a certain extent: for example the french letter é is not correctly displayed when I type it in console althought it is correctly displayed under X11. Apart from this, all seems to function perfectly. With the same setup in /etc/rc.conf there is no problem to type and display é in console if KMS is disabled. I was thinking this to be a lack of maturity of KMS, but I just tried KMS on a Slackware 13.0 (2.6.29 stock kernel) freshly installed on the same laptop: definitely no problem. Any hint? Thanks in advance, Didier. From my /etc/rc.conf: [...] LOCALE=fr_FR.UTF-8 HARDWARECLOCK=UTC USEDIRECTISA=no TIMEZONE=Europe/Paris #KEYMAP=fr-latin9 KEYMAP=fr-pc CONSOLEFONT=lat9w-16 CONSOLEMAP=8859-1_to_uni,8859-15_to_uni,cp1250_to_uni,cp437_to_uni,cp850_to_uni [...] FYI CONSOLEMAP has no effect on UTF-8 console, and specifying multiple maps at once is bad anyway. I don't know why accentuated chars don't work with KMS for you, but I have a similar setup at my laptop (which is 2km away now), so I will check if plain-text console is not broken with KMS for me too. The only wild guess is that KMS-enabled consoles don't handle \e%%G and/or \e(K commands to switch console mode and font, but that's clearly a regression then and should be reported on bugzilla.kernel.org -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] KMS console problem with non-us (french) keyboard
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 13:53, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 13:41, didier gaumet didier.gau...@libertysurf.fr wrote: KMS console problem with non-us (french) keyboard Hi all, I am presently using an up-to-date Archlinux on a laptop with an Intel 915 chipset. In the past I have tried KMS succesfully to a certain extent: for example the french letter é is not correctly displayed when I type it in console althought it is correctly displayed under X11. Apart from this, all seems to function perfectly. With the same setup in /etc/rc.conf there is no problem to type and display é in console if KMS is disabled. I was thinking this to be a lack of maturity of KMS, but I just tried KMS on a Slackware 13.0 (2.6.29 stock kernel) freshly installed on the same laptop: definitely no problem. I don't know why accentuated chars don't work with KMS for you, but I have a similar setup at my laptop (which is 2km away now), so I will check if plain-text console is not broken with KMS for me too. Checked it on my laptop now. Cyrillic chars work fine on tty with KMS enabled. LOCALE=uk_UA.UTF-8 KEYMAP=ua-utf CONSOLEFONT=cyr-sun16 CONSOLEMAP= -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] ArcLlinux 2009.02 installation issues
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 17:23, Ciprian Dorin, Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that by default ArchLinux does not include ttyS0 in inittab or in securetty, so I have to manually mount the disk as loopback, end edit the files appropriately... Thus my feature request is: could you include in the default install images also the ttyS0 and ttyS1 as usable terminals? Hm, I think archboot-based install CD had this feature (at least old bug about it is marked as fixed), not sure about it now, but archboot ISOs are regularly updated. Of course it would be nice to have the support in official ISOs, so please feel a feature requset about it on our bugtracker. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] kernel 2.6.31-1
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 18:38, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Hi guys, kernel 2.6.31 first test run ... I already love this kernel version. Not only I don't see any regressions, but it also fixed 2 issues on my system: 1) my wireless now is not turned on (led is off and checkbox in network manager is disabled) when mechanical switch on my laptop is in off position. (I think it was that way in some pre-.30/.29 verions, but I may be wrong here) 2) alsamixer now allows me to output sound via mic jack (that's 3 possible outputs together with 2 headphones jacks), which was the case in pre-.30 kernels as well. Also it seems that CFS does less CPU-to-CPU usage unballancing. Again, no problems detected with this kernel version, and dmesg is clean. Signed off x86_64. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 09:03, Tom Kt...@runbox.com wrote: SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the required order in the rc.conf MODULES array. I believe this no longer works. MODULES are not processed in the order now. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
For some reason, sometimes I got: Wireless - eth0 Ethernet - eth1 and other times I got: Ethernet - eth0 Wireless - eth1 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 00:32, Adriano de Mouraadriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: I've got that network interface random swap for quite some time now. I wonder if there is something to do with the 2.6.31 kernel or the new udev This is due to change in recent initscripts, not kernel or udev. Cannot reference the report now since bugtracker is down. This can be solved either by udev rules or specifying module options (like index=1) in modprobe config file. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] 404 on 'view svn entries' in package details on archlinux.rog
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:00, solsTiCe d'Hiversolstice.dhi...@gmail.com wrote: hello, when you click on 'View svn entries' on quite a few package in details on archlinux.org, you end up on 404 page. is it a side effect of the massive package deletion reported some time ago ? is it another quirk or hiccup, or server migration ? This is only for community packages, and related to ViewVC. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] server with an encrypted non-root disk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 19:36, Dieter Plaetinckdie...@plaetinck.be wrote: Hi, I have a little server at home which has an encrypted disk mounted at /home/media/1tbdisk I will be assuming you read the wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS_for_dm-crypt so I just put what my config looks like below. I added it to crypttab and the decrypted dm device to fstab, but i have the following problems: 1) the keymap upon luksOpen is qwerty, even though i have my keymap set in rc.conf and added 'keymap' to hooks in rc.conf I ran `mkinitcpio -p kernel26` in the shell that the init(script) gave me when it tried to mount /dev/mapper/decrypted (after i mounted -o remount,ro /). Do i really have to run mkinitcpio again from the real system and reboot? (i can do it, but would like to know what might have gone wrong here) You did put keymap before encrypt in HOOKS, right? You have to run mkinitcpio only after you have added the encrypt and keymap hooks. 2) even when i'm sure i'm typing correct pass (in qwerty) it doesn't unlock. i added dm_crypt to modules in rc.conf but no change. it asks the pass 3 times and then fstab tries to mount the nonexisting device and i get the shell If i comment out the entries in crypttab and fstab and unlock+mount myself after boot, it works fine. This seems to be related to the keymap problem. 3) even if for some reason one fails to unlock the volume, it would be nice that the boot process can continue. maybe there could also be a timeout: not unlocked within 60s, continue boot process. is this possible to do or would it make things too complicated? Hmm... Looks like a valid feature request. 4) suppose one can fix the stuff in the shell that you get from the fstab hook, is it possible to just resume boot instead of rebooting? I have not tried this. I have encrypted root with other partitions being decrypted using passwords that are stored in crypttab, so I am not able to encounter #3 and #4 with my configuration. 5) any other thoughts about this kind of setup? I know it's possible if you have IPMI to do serial over lan and type your password from anywhere around the globe during bootup. but i don't have ipmi, so if no-one can unlock the volume in x seconds, it can continue booting. Never used IPMI. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] server with an encrypted non-root disk
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 20:21, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 19:36, Dieter Plaetinckdie...@plaetinck.be wrote: Hi, I have a little server at home which has an encrypted disk mounted at /home/media/1tbdisk I will be assuming you read the wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS_for_dm-crypt so I just put what my config looks like below. Oh, forgot to actually write my config in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf: HOOKS=(... encrypt ...) (I don't use keymap hook) You don't actually need encrypt unless your root partition is encrypted too. in /etc/crypttab: home/dev/sda8 some password I guess your crypttab has ASK instead of password (I can safely put the password here because the root is encrypted, and am very lazy to unlock every partition during the boot :-P) in /etc/fstab: /dev/mapper/home /home ext4 defaults,relatime 0 2 Everything works like a charm -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 09:54:50 schrieb Thomas Bächler: You don't. It's a kernel meant for servers, there won't be any module packages for it. A machine that needs the nvidia driver is not a server. Maybe the kernel should be renamed to -server then. -lts is a little confusing here. IMO -lts is fine. -server implies that users should prefer it over the default if they use server, but the default is quite okay for non-critical servers. And -lts name implies that it can be used for non-server purposes as well, like recovering. Anyway this is just bikeshed painting. :-P The idea of such kernel is great, I'm sure it will have quite noticeable user base. Thanks, Andy! -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [SOLVED] Re: How to choose which grub entry boots next from the cli via ssh in Arch?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:04, David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 11:54:21 pm David C. Rankin wrote: Thanks, sorry, I know all that. I'm looking for a quick command that does NOT alter the menu.lst file, but sets some type of flag that tells grub do NOT boot the default entry, instead, boot entry 5. A, hah! Should have checked in the first place. suse just uses a script. Here it is: Instead of the script you could use grub-set-default. Here is more information: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Invoking-grub_002dset_002ddefault.html http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Booting-fallback-systems.html -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [SOLVED] Re: How to choose which grub entry boots next from the cli via ssh in Arch?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 13:56, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:04, David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 11:54:21 pm David C. Rankin wrote: Thanks, sorry, I know all that. I'm looking for a quick command that does NOT alter the menu.lst file, but sets some type of flag that tells grub do NOT boot the default entry, instead, boot entry 5. A, hah! Should have checked in the first place. suse just uses a script. Here it is: Instead of the script you could use grub-set-default. Here is more information: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Invoking-grub_002dset_002ddefault.html http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Booting-fallback-systems.html This is more specific link: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Booting-once_002donly.html -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:29, Aaron Griffinaaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: I half-way agree. The issue is that, no matter what you _intend_ with something, people will always do something you don't expect. It's part of the reason you see warnings like Do not put in nose on a package for an electric toothbrush :) We _may_ have to maintain the out-of-tree network drivers, at the very least, but I don't know if nvidia is worth it. Perhaps someone will begin making a side repo with additional LTS modules (*hint* *hint*) I think someone will make packages for drivers in AUR. There are lots of driver packages for user-made kernels, so driver packages for official kernel will surely appear in AUR. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] arch-release
2009/8/26 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: What about putting date when pacman -Syu was run for a last time in that file? It would still suffer from lag when using mirrors but I guess it should be accurate enough. I don't think anyone is going to really put something in that file, so don't hold your breath. The point it that there's no real usefulness of any information in that file. Only the existence of the file is needed, so apps (e.g. VirtualBox) can check for it to know they are running in Arch. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Weird png corruption issue from Gwenview using crop - Save As - to a smb share
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:30, David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: I tried saving the file with gwenview to my local disk and also saving it to the smb share. Both using the File - Save As after a crop. When I save to the smb share, the corrupt image is about 250 bytes bigger than the good file: Are you sure there is no LF - CR+LF translation in this copy process? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] ABI compliance checker
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 01:16, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzivmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Colleagues, I'm software engineer from Institute for System Programing of Russian Academy of Sciences and we are developing a free lightweight tool for checking backward/forward binary compatibility of shared C/C++ libraries in OS Linux. It checks interface signatures and data type definitions in two library versions (headers and shared objects) and searches ABI changes that may lead to incompatibility. We have released 1.1 version of this tool and we'd like you to consider its usefulness for your project. The wiki-page with the latest release of binary compatibility checker is http://ispras.linux-foundation.org/index.php/ABI_compliance_checker This sound really very good! At first when I read your post, I thought it was possible to verify the compatibility without source, ie directly between the binaries, but I see that this is not possible. This only do the check based on the source plus some xml library descriptors. The requirement of special XML files limits its usage IMHO. Do you have any descriptors already available for some libraries? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] soundcard order is not maintained after recent updates
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 16:51, kira.lau...@gmail.com wrote: i have two soundcards. one is creative soundblaster live and the other is onboard nvidia soundcard. the kernel modules are snd-emu10k1x and snd-hda-intel respectively. Before the recent updates i used to put snd-emu10k1x before snd-hda-intel in /etc/rc.conf in the MODULES array to force the soundblaster card to be soundcard 0. But after the most recent updates this setting does not work. After going through archwiki and googling i found that either i can put options snd_emu10k1x index=0 in /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf or i can create a custom asoundrc file in my home directory which will serve my purpose. so my question is that is the new udev does not load modules according to /etc/rc.conf ? It was a change in rc.sysinit. See http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12706 -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] any packages on the repo are duplicated
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 23:13, Aaron Griffinaaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/4 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: I am getting the e-mail of the rest of the mirrors admins to let them know about the issue with the mirrorsync script Do you have a list of mirror admins? Our backend DB is missing contact info for a few of the mirrors. This is what I was thinking to do a year ago before becoming inactive. Looks like a perfect time to actually start doing this. And this will help us to optimize our mirror network (by having more info recorded than just URLs and IP addresses). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] any packages on the repo are duplicated
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 23:22, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Dienstag 04 August 2009 22:13:37 schrieb Aaron Griffin: 2009/8/4 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: I am getting the e-mail of the rest of the mirrors admins to let them know about the issue with the mirrorsync script Do you have a list of mirror admins? Our backend DB is missing contact info for a few of the mirrors. Afaik Gerhrad has such a list as he is allways in contact with some mirror admins. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 23:22, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Dienstag 04 August 2009 22:13:37 schrieb Aaron Griffin: 2009/8/4 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: I am getting the e-mail of the rest of the mirrors admins to let them know about the issue with the mirrorsync script Do you have a list of mirror admins? Our backend DB is missing contact info for a few of the mirrors. Afaik Gerhrad has such a list as he is allways in contact with some mirror admins. Could we place that lists on a private wiki (so no emails are revealed to spam bots), so we can collaborate on filling it? (I can provide info from bugtracker feature requests where people asked to be added as a mirror, since I know bugtracker users' email addresses). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] any packages on the repo are duplicated
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 00:09, Dan McGeedpmc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 23:22, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Dienstag 04 August 2009 22:13:37 schrieb Aaron Griffin: 2009/8/4 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: I am getting the e-mail of the rest of the mirrors admins to let them know about the issue with the mirrorsync script Do you have a list of mirror admins? Our backend DB is missing contact info for a few of the mirrors. Afaik Gerhrad has such a list as he is allways in contact with some mirror admins. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 23:22, Pierre Schmitzpie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am Dienstag 04 August 2009 22:13:37 schrieb Aaron Griffin: 2009/8/4 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: I am getting the e-mail of the rest of the mirrors admins to let them know about the issue with the mirrorsync script Do you have a list of mirror admins? Our backend DB is missing contact info for a few of the mirrors. Afaik Gerhrad has such a list as he is allways in contact with some mirror admins. Could we place that lists on a private wiki (so no emails are revealed to spam bots), so we can collaborate on filling it? (I can provide info from bugtracker feature requests where people asked to be added as a mirror, since I know bugtracker users' email addresses). Just missed this one with my last post (to the private list, sorry for those that can't see there). Let's get this in the ***king database please. If the model has to change to get more info in there, so be it, I'd be glad to help. But I'm sick of scattered information everywhere and people not really giving back when they come up with cool tools and help gather this information. Honestly I didn't know (at least that's what I remember) about the info in the database. I do agree that having list of mirrors in the package, the wiki, the download page etc. is a pain to sync, so autogenerating everything from a DB would be cool. P.S. Roman, you have been the unfortunate author of a few emails I've responded to lately, please don't feel like I'm attempting to flame you or anything, these posts have just hit some of my hot buttons as of late. :) Thanks for all your effort here, I just want to make sure we don't direct effort in the wrong directions. Ah, I don't have any problems with your responses. :-) P.S.: this thread is getting scattering through different MLs and private mails already. Let's move it to dev ML completely. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] abs issues
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:13, Allan McRaeal...@archlinux.org wrote:
Sascha Siegel wrote:
hi,
sudo abs deletes the repos core, extra and testing and creates
comunity AND community.
i think theres something wrong with the abs-sync.
/etc/abs.conf says: REPOS=(core extra community testing)
but ls on /var/abs sais: community comunity local README
tryed differend servers. no success ;\
someone have the same problem?
The comunity one is dues to someone making a spelling mistake with the db
scripts. I am looking into why the core/extra/testing repos did not work
apart from arch=('any') packages.
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15739
--
Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] ext3 driver for windows
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 18:43, David Rosenstrauchdar...@darose.net wrote: Guilherme M. Nogueira wrote: I've used both of them and found that Ext2Fsd works better. Sometimes I would just lose my partition reference in EXT IFS. Have been using Ext2Fsd for two years now for access to my external harddrive, which has one ext3 partition. Worked fine in every computer I've tried. Yeah, good call. Looks like my ext2 ifs setup stopped working for some reason. (Don't know if it was the inode size issue or not.) Just switched to FSD and it looks solid. Also please note that there are problems with non-ASCII chars in either or both of these drivers and TC plugin (at least last time I tried I wasn't able to get Cyrillic chars visible). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Archlinux added a choice for OS selection at bugs.kde.org
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 02:48, David C. Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Listmates, You should now be able to choose Archlinux as the OS when filing bugs at bugs.kde.org. The correct name is Arch Linux, not Archlinux. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] VirtualBox keeps crashing
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 23:14, Tim Geltertgel...@gurulabs.com wrote: Hello listmates, I'm having semi-frequent virtualbox crashes with existing and newly created virtual machines. Here is a snippet from /var/log/kernel.log : Jul 29 08:24:17 guapArch kernel: VirtualBox[5142] trap int3 ip:7f7dde81dd9a sp:7f7dd003bf00 error:0 Jul 29 11:38:43 guapArch kernel: VirtualBox[6559] trap int3 ip:7f4bcedacd9a sp:7f4bc0b74f00 error:0 Jul 29 11:56:47 guapArch kernel: VirtualBox[6589] trap int3 ip:7f1fd205ad9a sp:7f1fc4622f00 error:0 Jul 29 13:47:46 guapArch kernel: hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj. Jul 29 14:08:30 guapArch kernel: VirtualBox[7034] trap int3 ip:7f8f29938d9a sp:7f8f154e3f00 error:0 I've googled around a bit and don't see anything anywhere. Do any of you happen to have any ideas as to what is going on here? What guest system(s) are you using? Arch? Anyway I suggest reporting the bug at http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker and providing as much details as you can (kernel logs, virtual hardware config, if VT-x/SVM is enabled) Arch is officially supported by VirtualBox, so there are quite high chances that it will be fixed (if the problem is in VirtualBox, which it seems to be). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Regression in PC Beep when updating to 2.6.30
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:15, Flavio Costaflavio@gmail.com wrote: Muting the PC Beep in alsamixer mutes the beep, but the internel speaker doesn't come back to life I think that is because of CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=y If it is really important to you - try rebuilding your kernel with the option turned off. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] how to migrate installs between hard drives?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 22:20, Will Siddallwill.sidd...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, After several attempts, I'm still back to trying to resolve this. To explain in more detail, I had a 100G hd with a root partition (with my Arch Install), a data partition and a swap. I managed to run dd on both partitions and in the new hd (200G) apply both. But that only worked partially due to the fact that it copied the ratios of file sizes rather than the actual file size... Copying 80G of data from a 30G partition doesn't quite sit well with me. Next step was to mount the iso images and copy the files. That's what I was in the process of doing of my last message and it worked... until I went to restart and update. What I found that was that my permissions and ownership info was not kept. Because of this, as soon as I went to update anything, the installers would run, but just delete the files (it deleted pacman and yaourt so I had to find a way to compile pacman to install again... until it tried to update all of my bin tools... then everything was gone). Now following all of your suggestions, I tried rsync -arpol and a variety of different other settings but it still doesn't keep the permissions. I tried running tar on the partition, still not working. Does anyone have any other suggestions or know why I'm having this problem? I'm going to try to wipe out the new hard drive and run dd on the whole 100g disk and reapply it to the 200G disk. And by the way, I'm running a ubuntu livecd to run these processes. Did you try the tar method? Also, when you copy files, did you use cp -a? You can also try partimage which makes copies of partitions. Doing full byte-to-byte copy of HDD and then doing partition/fs resize or creating an additional partition in empty space is my preferred method. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 19:07, David Rosenstrauchdar...@darose.net wrote: Xavier wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, David Rosenstrauchdar...@darose.net wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: Weeks ago, I learned that kdm doesn't belong in the DAEMONS LINE and moved it to inittab. ? That's always worked fine for me. (At least with both kdm3 and slim.) Can you elaborate? What's the issue? DR archwiki is your friend : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Adding_a_login_manager_%28KDM,_GDM,_or_XDM%29_to_automatically_boot_on_startup#Configure_loading_the_Display_Manager The inittab method is recommended for various reasons, one being that it will allow you to boot directly into framebuffer mode from GRUB. This is an advantage should the graphics driver crash in X, for example, you would not be forced to fix your system from a live cd or through other needlessly complex means. With the inittab method all you would have to do is to press 'e' for edit at the GRUB prompt and just add: 3 to the end of the 'kernel' line to boot directly into framebuffer mode in order to fix your system/X (This is also described more thoroughly descriptive below.) Hmmm ... still not sure I get what the problem is. Any time I've ever run into a situation where either X or the DM crashes, it leaves me at a console login prompt. So I can just login to the console and fix things from there - no live CD needed. Incorrect/misleading Wiki page, methinks ... Yep, the wiki gives wrong reasoning. The only advantage of inittab over DAEMONS may be http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_boot#Starting_X_as_preferred_user_without_logging_in but some login managers allow automatic login as well (at least GDM does). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Regression in PC Beep when updating to 2.6.30
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 21:27, Flavio Costaflavio@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone experiencing this too? http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13651 The noise is quite irritating, I'm looking forward a workaround or a way to shut it down. Hm, I do remember hearing irritating PC speaker beep during installation, but not after my system was configured. Did you try to rebuild your kernel with CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=n and muting the PC speaker in alsamixer? Anyway it seems that this partially fixed in 2.6.31-rc1 (the irritating frequency). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:35, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Secure Connection Failed dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server. * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later. Or you can add an exception… Then: Developer Login Username: Password: Why are you using dev.archlinux.org instead of a mirror, BTW? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 20:25, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:35, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Secure Connection Failed dev.archlinux.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. (Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) * This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server. * If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later. Or you can add an exception… Then: Developer Login Username: Password: Why are you using dev.archlinux.org instead of a mirror, BTW? Ah, ignore this. I've just realized you just clicked on that link, the correct is: http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/i686/pacman/ -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kbd-1.15-2
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 15:56, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzivmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Roman Kyrylych wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:17, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 05:29, Eric Bélangersnowmanisc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: My first commit this year. :-P Please signoff kbd-1.15-2 which fixes FS#13837. The change should affect only keymaps mentioned in the report. I cannot build for i686 at the moment, so please do it (thanks in advance!). I just pushed kbd-1.15-2 in testing i686. Thank you! Signoffs, anyone? Noone uses kbd? ;-) My ES keyboard still works here, consoles are initialized OK in rc.sysinit, and the most important (?) this works fine too: while :; do setleds +num -caps -scroll; sleep .5 setleds -num +caps -scroll; sleep .5 setleds -num -caps +scroll; sleep .5 setleds -num +caps -scroll; sleep .5 done lol :-) Знак-Off: i686+x86_64 Wrong translation. :-P -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kbd-1.15-2
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 16:29, André Ramaciottiandre.ramacio...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Roman Kyrylychroman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: Знак-Off: i686+x86_64 Wrong translation. :-P Znak does sound good, though. :) a sign == знак a signature == підпис to sign == підписувати that's why translation was incorrect sign off is even harder :-P (as there's no word-to-word translation of (I) sign off (this) to my language, but (я) затверджую (це) would be correct enough in this case). back on topic - I'll move this to core when I get home, but if anyone wants to do this sooner - go ahead. :-) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] What to do about the blender package?
2009/7/19 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: IMO the problem is that you (devs) use make to build blender which is several years deprecated and probably no-one builds blender this way. Maybe they've dropped support for it completely. I suggest using SCons. Maybe you can reuse my blender-svn PKGBUILD from AUR, only thing that has to be changed for this purpose is the part where data is downloaded from SVN server. There is one problem which I'm aware of with this package – it installs blender executable in /usr/share/blender and adds wrapper to /usr/bin. I'll probably move blender to /opt in near future. There is also a request about building to SCons: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14893 and there is a PKGBUILD too (for stable, not svn version). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] vc/* - tty* transition
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 13:16, Thomas Bächlertho...@archlinux.org wrote: Aaron Griffin schrieb: However, I must point out: odds are most people don't touch inittab, so the upgrade will do things as expected and the sed line will only do work a small subset of end users. You are wrong here. I would guess virtually any user touched it. That's questionable. It depends if users configured their X login manager in inittab or just added gdm/kdm/slim/whatever to DAEMONS in rc.conf (as I did). I doubt there is any statistics on it, so it's hard to correctly assume anything. Anyway these are valid points: That said, we do modify configuration files all the time. We run grpck on a shadow update so users can still log in, some gtk update generate files in /etc so it still finds its plugins and more. We just don't do it ourselves, but hide behind some program provided to us and tell ourselves It's okay, upstream wanted it this way. And guess what, nobody even notices. The whole discussion is getting on a way to flamewar IMO. I'm fine with just newsitem in advance and a post_upgrade message, but Thomas' idea about doing sed and saving user's config as .pacsave and posting a message about what was done is reasonable as well: * users who weren't careful will have a working system after reboot, * users who are careful will see the .pacsave and will check\ if sed didn't break their config. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] [user] cups-1.3.11-1
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 15:39, Denis A. Altoé Falquetodenisfalqu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I didn't find the original signoff message, but here is my user signoff for cups-1.3.11-1 in x86_64. The server starts, web interface is fine, pdf printer is also ok. There wasn't signoff message because cups is in Extra, and signoffs are required only for packages in Core. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] sound busted after upgrade to kernel 2.6.30?
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:59, Chris Brannoncmbran...@cox.net wrote: My sound was busted yesterday when I upgraded from kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.30. I had to regenerate my asound.state. At first, I thought it was just my problem, because I use the softvol plugin. This gave me trouble in the past. A friend of mine reported the same experience, so someone else had audio problems on upgrade as well. What happened to ALSA? Did anyone else have the same trouble? I had the same, but there's a positive side: now I don't have useless channels in alsamixer, and can tune each of my headphone output jacks (have 2 of them on my laptop) separately. No wonder that such changes in a number of channels required asound.state update. Warning about unknown card was confusing though. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Kill old gcc versions
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 04:14, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 10:45 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: Baho Utot wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 00:51 +0200, Jan de Groot wrote: On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 18:46 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: I have encountered many packages in extra that don't compile with gcc-4.4.0. The easy way to fix them is to compile them with gcc-3.4 The easy way to fix them is by reporting bugs. Bugfixing most of these packages is very easy and takes us only a few minutes to fix, so why bother supporting an old outdated compiler that hasn't been supported upstream for a long while? Do you really want a list of all the packages in extra that are broke? There are lots of them Filing a bug report means they will get fixed. Not telling us about them, means they will wait until an update or rebuild is needed. Allan I can do thatif you can stand all the bug reports :) My script just finished and it found another 400+ that didn't build, that will take some time to go through to find the ones that didn't build because of gcc-4.4.0 errors :) Packages that are already built don't really need immediate fixing unless you build all your packages from source. There are always some packages that cannot be built with current gcc/glibc/kernel/other-deps, but they work because they were built already some time ago. When such package is going to be updated due to new version, for example - either these errors are already fixed upstream, or some patching is done to fix them. So actually there won't be the need to fix all broken packages at one time. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.30-2
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:49, Dieter Plaetinckdie...@plaetinck.be wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:41:33 +0200 Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote: Am Samstag 13 Juni 2009 schrieben Sie: On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:19:24 +0200 What's the Arch policy on the new default mount options for ext3? data=ordered (old, safe, slow behaviour) or data=writeback (new default, faster but riskier) I read on http://lwn.net/Articles/328363/ that you can customize the default setting. Personally I'ld stick to ordered for at least until the new data=guarded arrives but maybe that's just me. Dieter It is not set per default, the defaults you set in fstab are used. greetings tpowa And if in fstab you set your options to be defaults ? then surely the kernel has predefined defaults per filesystem (which can be configured at kernel configuration time), including a data mode for ext filesystems, or am i missing something? Also it should be noted that realatime is the default now, so users who didn't use relatime option should add norelatime now. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman 3.2.2 string freeze
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 07:08, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: String freeze for the pacman 3.2.2 release is now in effect. Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) pre-release updates. http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ I'm shooting for a release approximately 5 days from now, but that could change depending on how quick we get translations back and sneak some last-minute fixes in. Languages we currently have: cs:Vojtěch Gondžala vojtech.gondz...@gmail.com de: Matthias Gorissen matth...@archlinux.de en_GB: Jeff Bailes thepizzak...@gmail.com (Already complete) es: Juan Pablo Gonzalez jotape...@gmail.com fr: Xavier Chantry shinin...@gmail.com hu: Nagy Gabor ng...@bibl.u-szeged.hu it: Giovanni Scafora linuxma...@gmail.com pl: Mateusz Herych heni...@gmail.com pt_BR: Hugo Doria h...@archlinux.org ru: Sergey Tereschenko serg.parti...@gmail.com tr: Samed Beyribey beyri...@gmail.com zh_CN: 甘露(Lu.Gan) rhythm@gmail.com Where is this list from? It's missing Ukrainian language. ;-) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman 3.2.2 string freeze
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 14:48, Roman Kyrylych roman.kyryl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 07:08, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: String freeze for the pacman 3.2.2 release is now in effect. Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) pre-release updates. http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ I'm shooting for a release approximately 5 days from now, but that could change depending on how quick we get translations back and sneak some last-minute fixes in. Languages we currently have: cs:Vojtěch Gondžala vojtech.gondz...@gmail.com de: Matthias Gorissen matth...@archlinux.de en_GB: Jeff Bailes thepizzak...@gmail.com (Already complete) es: Juan Pablo Gonzalez jotape...@gmail.com fr: Xavier Chantry shinin...@gmail.com hu: Nagy Gabor ng...@bibl.u-szeged.hu it: Giovanni Scafora linuxma...@gmail.com pl: Mateusz Herych heni...@gmail.com pt_BR: Hugo Doria h...@archlinux.org ru: Sergey Tereschenko serg.parti...@gmail.com tr: Samed Beyribey beyri...@gmail.com zh_CN: 甘露(Lu.Gan) rhythm@gmail.com Where is this list from? It's missing Ukrainian language. ;-) Sent an updated translation. BTW, is it OK that libalpm.pot for 3.2.2 doesn't have any changes? (I've not been following the list for months) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] New 2008.10 archboot test iso/img files
2008/10/21 James Rayner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Tobias Powalowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 schrieb Roman Kyrylych: 2008/10/20 Victor Quinault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi just found that the link was broken. The good one should be (I guess) http://downloads.archlinux.de/iso/archboot/2008.10/ Yes, it was moved there after it was released. The subdirectory was created to not mix isos generated with archboot and archiso (official since previous release) It's also still in testing phase so it's only hosted there, im waiting for some feedback before pushing it to the main mirrors. why the Arch main mirrors? archboot is not the official install CD and it'll just generate confusion. Some people are testing it because it's dressed up like the official disc and they're under the impression it is. All software from projects.archlinux.org is hosted in /other on main arch mirror, so why not host an isos generated with one of those projects on the same mirror? Previous version was sitting in the same directory as official iso, and there were no complaints AFAIR, this one will be in a subdirectory, so I don't really see any problem with it. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] repoman tool
2008/9/1 Andrea Scarpino [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi ML, I made a tool for manage your personal archlinux repository: repoman! With repoman you can add, update or remove packages from your personal repo with a simply command line tool. Its gets the repository.db.tar.gz file from your repository; then its gets the tarball of the packages from AUR; build the packages and update the repository database (upload files also!!) All with only one command! project site: http://code.google.com/p/repoman-arch/ repoman help screnshot: http://www.deelab.org/bash/images/repoman_help.png I'll want to know what you think about this :) positive and negative feedback are welcome! Haven't tried it yet. FYI there was a project with the same name (and even it's own ML), but it haven't got any release, and seems to be dead for long time. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman 3.2.1 string freeze
2008/8/23 Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: String freeze for the pacman 3.2.1 release is now in effect. We have about 10 messages per language that are either fuzzy or new in this release, so nothing too serious. Any questions should be answered if you reply to this email on the list. I got the latest pacman.pot from http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/pacman/ and there is Removing info/doc files... but in makepkg.sh.in in git tree there is: if [ $(check_option docs) = n ]; then msg2 $(gettext Removing doc files...) How this could happen? And what to do? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Pacman 3.2.1 string freeze
2008/8/25 Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Roman Kyrylych [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/23 Dan McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: String freeze for the pacman 3.2.1 release is now in effect. We have about 10 messages per language that are either fuzzy or new in this release, so nothing too serious. Any questions should be answered if you reply to this email on the list. I got the latest pacman.pot from http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/pacman/ and there is Removing info/doc files... but in makepkg.sh.in in git tree there is: if [ $(check_option docs) = n ]; then msg2 $(gettext Removing doc files...) How this could happen? And what to do? Because our minor releases come off the 'maint' branch. Try taking a look at maint instead of master: git checkout origin/maint aha, thanks! -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] A question about the bug tracker
2008/7/20 Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:10:48PM +0200, Alessandro Doro wrote: Hello. I wish to know if there is a way to input text formatted as code (monospaced font) in the edit field of the bug tracker. You most likely can't. Try attaching files instead. You can also try searching http://flyspray.org/ or even make a feature request. Actually, there is an option to write comments using extended syntax. Aaron enabled it once, but that broke tons of existing comments, so I asked to disable it again. Another options: a) modify CSS to use monospace font for description and comments (ugly?), b) patch Flyspray to make possible to enter pre/pre directly (PITA?) *shrugs* -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Dealing with Info documentation
2008/6/13 Frédéric Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Oops, I accidently hit the send button... Sorry for the previous almost empty message. Alessio Bolognino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recall a recent thread in arch-dev-public about a new policy about info docs; I think devs decided to include info docs in the new packages, but I'm not 100% sure. After some manual searching, I found the following thread : [arch-dev-public] OMG info pages Aaron Griffin aaronmgriffin at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 13:05:12 EDT 2008 The conclusion seemed to be, indeed, to include info pages, but there wasn't a clear let's change the default. Well, the texinfo package (last updated on May 22nd) still doesn't include its own documentation. Ryan Sims suggested that I rebuilt packages in order to get the doc, is that really the way to go? There are -info packages in Community for most popular software e.g. coreutils-info. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] should gawk be in group base-devel?
2008/6/3 Travis Willard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It is often quoted that, for package building purposes, it is assumed a user has packages in group base-devel installed. Ideally, the user should have BOTH base and base-devel installed for package building. +1. When user omits any package from base - it's on his/her own risk, it is assumed that base is installed on every system, so packages from base are not mentioned in (make)depends (ok, some cases exists, but they are exceptions from the rule, and should had not exist). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] How do I configure my webcamera?
2008/6/1 Carlos A M Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, everybody... I tried to configure my webcamera by following the instructions in: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Webcam_Setup However it isn't working at all; programs like Cheese and Spcagui do not recognize any device. Some information about this system: # lsusb Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0c45:602e Microdia Bus 001 Device 004: ID 03f0:7304 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 35xx Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 http://blog.zerodogg.org/2008/04/27/microdia-0c45624f-webcam-on-linux/ http://groups.google.com/group/microdia/ http://groups.google.com/group/microdia/web your device id is not in the list though, so you may need to add it to the driver's code. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Firefox 3 Beta 5 has No Print Margins tab
2008/4/19 Ralph Alvy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unlike the Windows version, I find that the Linux version of Firefox 3 Beta 5 has No Print Margins tab. Anyone else confirm this? I downloaded it from the Mozilla website. I cannot confirm this because I don't use Firefox under Linux but it's a well known fact that Linux builds of Firefox can lack some features that are available in Windows builds. MoCo/MoFo cares less about Linux than about Windows. :-( -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Multiple sound cards
2008/4/21 Stephen Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, it's all explained in the source code referred to by Johannes Goecke (see above). In version 2.6.23 a catch all VIA VT8237 function was used to enable the on-board sound card -- which is why it worked for me. In version 2.6.24 this was removed. Instead the DMI code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_Management_Interface) is used to enable the card *only* on MSI K8T Neo2 FIR. So once I've found the DMI code for my motherboard, I'll try a patch on the 2.6.24 kernel and post again if it works. Status? I suggest posting this patch to LKML - this way it can be included in the vanilla kernel. ;) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Bugs.
2008/5/5 Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Loui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:48:52 +0300 Right. I plan on going through the bug tracker more often, but it would be a waste of time if I comment on all the bugs but they never get closed. So I will focus my efforts on bugs that I'm watching for now. Of course I can't offer anything for packages or features I don't use. More users need to get on the band wagon and comment on bugs, email the maintainers, and offer patches. It's not a waste of time. Valuable comments are useful to any users of the bug tracker. When some devs later decide to go through the list of bugs to close what they can, comments are also very helpful. I can add to that: I get a notification about *every* event happened in Flyspray's Arch Linux project to my gmailbox, so comments like what's the status of this old bug? definetely bring my attention. ;-) Sure, we have some bugs reported long ago but still not closed due to some reasons. But usually old bugs are either resolved and closed as fixed or just closed because no futher comments from authors were made (e.g. if a bug there's no comments when 2 more major kernel versions are released then the bug is assumed to be fixed) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Which version gets installed by pacman?
2008/5/6 Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Timm Preetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In standard pacman.conf this behaviour is necessary, because otherwise pacman would install testing-packages (for example) just because they have higher version. And that wouldn't be too good in some cases. If you want to use testing, it's recommended to use all of it, for obvious linking reasons. That's why testing appears first in pacman.conf (but is disabled by default). Sometimes it is useful to have testing after all other repos though. For example, I have testing after all repos and when a dev asks to signoff some package - I just do pacman -S testing/somepackage to download only that package. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] strange access permissions in /var/spool/mail
2008/5/16 Michael Krauss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, while testing dma (Mail Transfer Agent from DragonflyBSD) on Arch Linux I stumbled on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mickraus]\$ ls -la /var/spool/mail insgesamt 12 drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 16. Mai 15:11 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 16. Mai 15:26 .. -- 1 mickraus users 201 16. Mai 15:11 mickraus Is it normal that a user has no access to his own mail box? I looked into postfix.install but it doesn't correct the file mode either. So what is the trick? The mickraus directory is created by postfix, I suppose, so it must be either a postfix's issue or just a configuration issue. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] unable to select ppp package when installing 2008.04-rc
2008/5/18 gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, I know it's in the core, it's here, but I can' find it in select packages step, that's why I ask for confirmation. Ok, I will take the rc iso cd, and try again. Thanks all dudes. Probably this is because packages.txt file is incorrect. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Hardcoded or not
2008/4/8, gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I put my words here but it's just my opinion: 1. Arch's devs are great and cute. 2. I am against to hardcoded-things. 3. If possible, I prefer what has been hardcoded in file system mounting should put int one file: fstab. 4. Should I open a bug tracker for the discussion. If you think something that is mounted in rc.sysinit should be done in fstab - create a feature request *explicitly for that one thing* with really good *technical* explanation. Anything else is not welcomed. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts changes
[many comments skipped] Could we please finally STOP insulting devs? There are _more civilized_ ways for discussion. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] How to create archlinux install CD?
2008/4/4, Karolina Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a new i586 machine and want to install archlinux i586 on it. So I want to recreate the archlinux install CD. But how do i do it? I have unpacked the install ISO, and is replacing all the packages, but when it comes to inird.img, the instructions in the wiki do not work. I cannot mount the unzipped inird.img. What should I do? file say that it is a cpio archive, but how do I unpack and mount it? And then, what is lowcore.img? I cannot provide much help here because I never rebuilt the ISO by myself, but you should take a look at archboot (used to generate our ISOs) and the new archiso tool: http://projects.archlinux.org/git/?p=archiso.git;a=tree -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] problem with courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686
2008/3/31, Jason R Begley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jason R Begley wrote: I can't get some mail clients to connect to courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686 after reecnt upgrades... Was working file with courier-imap-4.2.1-2-i686, I have rolled back without problems. Only error I could find in the log was imapd-ssl: couriertls: accept: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher Maybe only compiled for ssl3 and my clients need V3?? Any update on this? Don't know. Did you file a bugreport? If yes - what's its number? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations
2008/4/1, Loui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Thousands of PKGBUILDs use license=('GPL') for version 2 or later already,
there's no point to change this just because of cosmethics
(though I like cosmethics myself :-P).
Do we need a GPL1 and GPL1+?
Seems like we would need a GPL1. GPL1+ is logically the same as GPL
since there are no previous versions (are there?)
I haven't seen a single piece of code licensed under GPLv1 ever. :-)
While I do understand your arguments
this thread has similar opinions as the previous one,
so it doesn't have much use to repeat all arguments again IMHO,
as they all can be read in previous discussion thread.
We're busy with new interesting things now,
so anything like this is definetely very low priority,
even if something like this could be changed.
Thanks for participating in discussions.
--
Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future
2008/3/30, Gerhard Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, i've done a bit more testing. First i think it's not a bug in any package. It's only a mismatch between clock set on install machine and the timezone which is later set during config. 1. I guess there is absolut no problem on machines where the hardware clock is set to UTC by default. 2. If the clock is set to localtime there is a mismatch directly after booting the kernel. The time is read from bios and then the timezone is UTC per default what is a wrong time. Ex. My localtime is 13:46 (= machines hardwareclock) but this time is CEST(UTC+2) So date on the machine itself shows: Sun Mar 30 13:46 UTC 2008 but it must be Sun Mar 30 11:46 UTC 2008 or Sun Mar 30 13:46 CEST 2008 Solutions: a) set the time by hand (KISS, maybe put a hint on installation guide?) date -s 13:46 CEST result in: Sun Mar 30 11:46 UTC 2008 which is the now correct UTC time. b) put tzdata package on ISO, so the user could use tzselect. Hint could also be given in instalation guide. Or we make it more comfortable (handholding the user) and put this as a menu in installer(Set your timezone). The $TZ env var could then also used by the installer to initial set TIMEZONE in rc.conf as we do it with KEYMAP. As a side effect we could reduce a lot of postings in forums where users not set this correctly. But that need perhaps discussion, i feel it a little bit to handholding. Personally i will use a) in the future. As a solution which maybe should be discussed i would prefer b), tzdata on ISO and a entry in installer menu. What do you think? Other ideas? Aha, it seems now I've got it. It looks like the issue silently reappeared after it was fixed - because tzdata was splitted from glibc and then not included on install CD, thus effectively making the fix useless. In my opinion a separate km-like utility is needed instead of hardcoding the fix in installer (if you see the code - you'll understand why it's ugly hack), because timezone selection should be done before any read-write mounting to avoid the issue (e.g. when using install CD to recover the system - when instaler is not run and the hardcoded fix is not working). I blame myself for failing to do this for a looong time. :-( I didn't know (or forgot) about tzselect (*facepalm*) - thanks for pointing me that. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations
2008/3/30, Loui [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't like all these this version or later boondongles. Why don't we just keep things KISS and let people explicitly state what licenses are permissable. GPL1, GPL2, GPL3. Put one, or more of those in your licenses array and it's crystal clear what you mean. GPL2 or, at your opinion, any later version is not the same as GPL2 only + GPL3 or later. ;) -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future
2008/3/29, Callan Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Benjamin Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Callan Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who cares? If it's an issue perhaps you should use a different distribution. That seems to be quite an uncalled for reply. Let's see... Gerhard Brauer tests the ArchISO ftp install on various machines. He then notices a bug that gives the impression that arch isn't well polished. I completely agree here, but let me quote an unnamed dev: the impression is bad - i want it to be, stay the fuck away from arch Well. Smooth attitude there. And then of course the reply to shut the fuck up unless you talk in diff -u format. May I say, people that act that way need to get the fuck down from their high horse and don't act ridiculous. There, I said it. First of all, calm down. Then continue to read the thread again and see if your reply holds the test of time, I doubt it will. br, benny P.S. I don't think the patches welcome attitude healthy, but who am I? This is going to be a pretty epic thread. I even starred it on my gmail. Hey! Why do we discuss anything non-technical in this thread? Can't we just stay on topic without yet another round of yet again useless philosophical sh*t? P.S.: this is not addressed to anyone personally. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future
2008/3/29, Grigorios Bouzakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: Hello, i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: , | /dev/sda3: Superblock last mount time is in the future. FIXED | /dev/sda3 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced. ` Here¹ you could download a screenshot from such a situation where also a reboot is required after fsck. Cause this is the *first* reboot after installation users will get a bad impression about Arch. First i thought this comes from vmware, but i also get it in virtualbox and i've seen this also during real installations. I have a suspicion: During (c)fdisk and formatting the disks current locale and timezone is set to US values (don't know at the moment the initial settings presented in rc.conf). During configuration i set my locale and timezone always to de_DE.utf8 and Europe/Berlin. And when first reboot is made that from umounting / there is a time difference that could cause such and flag it on ext3 partition? Or with the order in rc scripts? Maybe also that the hwclock is changed during/after installation... Have others also seen such? ¹ http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/screen.png -- Don't drink and root! Yes i used to get that all the time. I think its somehow related to changes in tzdata that happened around a year ago. This only appears if you set the HARDWWARECLOCK to UTC as far as i can tell. Even though i dont have Widnows installed localtime works better for me, no such issues and plus the clock uses the correct time. UTC is 2 hours ahead. Hmmm... I thought this was fixed long ago... I will try to reproduce the issue in virtual machine. It would be nice if you could provide the time set in your BIOS before install, output of `date` before and after running /arch/setup and after the first install. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
