Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-19 Thread gan lu
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Alec Hussey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 08:59 +0200, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:00:26 +0200
> > Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Justin Gx wrote:
> > > > Alec Hussey wrote:
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to
> push
> > > >> the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty
> > > >> essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by
> the
> > > >> banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or
> provide
> > > >> two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0
> is
> > > >> made.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for writing this - I was going to write something along the
> same
> > > > lines. the Banshee in the repos is much too basic.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Where is your PKGBUILD up-to-date and with essential features, so that
> > > people interested would know what you are talking about?
> > >
> >
> > This is a developer's work.
> >
> > If Jan requests his help, Justin or Alec can email him directly to his
> e-mail.
> > And yours isn't the answer much appropriate, the best way would was
> > 'use the out-of-date checkbox and not this mailing-list'
> >
> > /* Leave from your brain this 'patches welcome' mind. They only want
> >  * to help.   */
> >
> But last I checked, the repository browser on archlinux.org doesnt
> support that and the banshee pacakges in the AUR are SVN releases done
> by other users.
>
> http://www.archlinux.org/packages/search/?q=banshee
>
> http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&L=0&C=0&K=banshee&SeB=nd&PP=25&do_Search=Go
>
>On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:19 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
>> Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even
>though i
>> dont know i doubt the features added are that essential to
>cause this
>> fuzz.
>
>Oh, they are. Banshee had a complete rewrite and the 0.98.1
>version is
>really really basic.
>
>0.98.3 adds new stuff like shuffling, video support etc.
>
>I think I would call that major features.
>
> On top of that none of the plugins from before had been ported yet in
> 0.98.1 including Podcasts, DAAP, and MTP/iPod support.


MTP and podcast support - according their website - is not fully implemented
in 0.98.3 neither.


Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread Alec Hussey
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 08:59 +0200, JJDaNiMoTh wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:00:26 +0200
> Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Justin Gx wrote:
> > > Alec Hussey wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to push
> > >> the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty
> > >> essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by the
> > >> banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or provide
> > >> two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0 is
> > >> made.
> > >>
> > > 
> > > Thanks for writing this - I was going to write something along the same
> > > lines. the Banshee in the repos is much too basic.
> > > 
> > 
> > Where is your PKGBUILD up-to-date and with essential features, so that 
> > people interested would know what you are talking about?
> > 
> 
> This is a developer's work.
> 
> If Jan requests his help, Justin or Alec can email him directly to his e-mail.
> And yours isn't the answer much appropriate, the best way would was 
> 'use the out-of-date checkbox and not this mailing-list'
> 
> /* Leave from your brain this 'patches welcome' mind. They only want
>  * to help.   */
> 
But last I checked, the repository browser on archlinux.org doesnt
support that and the banshee pacakges in the AUR are SVN releases done
by other users.

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/search/?q=banshee
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&L=0&C=0&K=banshee&SeB=nd&PP=25&do_Search=Go

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:19 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even
though i
> dont know i doubt the features added are that essential to
cause this
> fuzz.

Oh, they are. Banshee had a complete rewrite and the 0.98.1
version is
really really basic.

0.98.3 adds new stuff like shuffling, video support etc.

I think I would call that major features.

On top of that none of the plugins from before had been ported yet in
0.98.1 including Podcasts, DAAP, and MTP/iPod support.




Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread Tobias Kieslich
Hi,

to defend the basic feature set in the PKGBUILD, not every developer
always uses ALL the packages he maintains. So we are not always up to
snuff when it comes to the latest bells and whistles. In Banshees case,
to make matters worse, changing the microversion aka the number behind
the second dot is what I would call royally screwed up versioning when
it means major feature adding.

my 2 c

-T


On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Timm Preetz wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:19 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> > Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even though i
> > dont know i doubt the features added are that essential to cause this
> > fuzz.
> 
> Oh, they are. Banshee had a complete rewrite and the 0.98.1 version is
> really really basic.
> 
> 0.98.3 adds new stuff like shuffling, video support etc.
> 
> I think I would call that major features.
> 
> 



Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread gan lu
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Timm Preetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:19 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> > Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even though i
> > dont know i doubt the features added are that essential to cause this
> > fuzz.
>
> Oh, they are. Banshee had a complete rewrite and the 0.98.1 version is
> really really basic.
>
> 0.98.3 adds new stuff like shuffling, video support etc.
>
> I think I would call that major features.
>
>
> 0.98.3 compiles fine with little version modification of PKGBUILD, and the
patch isn't needed any longer


Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread Timm Preetz
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:19 +0300, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even though i
> dont know i doubt the features added are that essential to cause this
> fuzz.

Oh, they are. Banshee had a complete rewrite and the 0.98.1 version is
really really basic.

0.98.3 adds new stuff like shuffling, video support etc.

I think I would call that major features.




Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On 4/18/08, Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even though i
> dont
> > know i doubt the features added are that essential to cause this fuzz.
> > What Xavier meant to say was since you think the Archlinux package is
> very
> > basic you you propose what you compilation options you want to be added.
> > Thus provide a PKGBUILD containing these. Chill.
>
> I'm glad someone understood what I meant, thanks.


Im glad someone figured out all those you's.
Lesson learnt: dont write emails from work with someone buzzing over your
head :)


Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Grigorios Bouzakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even though i dont
> know i doubt the features added are that essential to cause this fuzz.
> What Xavier meant to say was since you think the Archlinux package is very
> basic you you propose what you compilation options you want to be added.
> Thus provide a PKGBUILD containing these. Chill.

I'm glad someone understood what I meant, thanks.



Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread Grigorios Bouzakis
On 4/18/08, JJDaNiMoTh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:00:26 +0200
> Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Justin Gx wrote:
> > > Alec Hussey wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to push
> > >> the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty
> > >> essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by the
> > >> banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or provide
> > >> two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0 is
> > >> made.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Thanks for writing this - I was going to write something along the
> same
> > > lines. the Banshee in the repos is much too basic.
> > >
> >
> > Where is your PKGBUILD up-to-date and with essential features, so that
> > people interested would know what you are talking about?
> >
>
> This is a developer's work.
>
> If Jan requests his help, Justin or Alec can email him directly to his
> e-mail.
> And yours isn't the answer much appropriate, the best way would was
> 'use the out-of-date checkbox and not this mailing-list'
>
> /* Leave from your brain this 'patches welcome' mind. They only want
> * to help. */
>
> --
> JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User



Current banshee version is 0.98.1 and latest is 0.98.3. Even though i dont
know i doubt the features added are that essential to cause this fuzz.
What Xavier meant to say was since you think the Archlinux package is very
basic you you propose what you compilation options you want to be added.
Thus provide a PKGBUILD containing these. Chill.
Greg


Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-18 Thread JJDaNiMoTh
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:00:26 +0200
Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Justin Gx wrote:
> > Alec Hussey wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to push
> >> the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty
> >> essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by the
> >> banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or provide
> >> two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0 is
> >> made.
> >>
> > 
> > Thanks for writing this - I was going to write something along the same
> > lines. the Banshee in the repos is much too basic.
> > 
> 
> Where is your PKGBUILD up-to-date and with essential features, so that 
> people interested would know what you are talking about?
> 

This is a developer's work.

If Jan requests his help, Justin or Alec can email him directly to his e-mail.
And yours isn't the answer much appropriate, the best way would was 
'use the out-of-date checkbox and not this mailing-list'

/* Leave from your brain this 'patches welcome' mind. They only want
 * to help. */

-- 
JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User


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Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-17 Thread Xavier

Justin Gx wrote:

Alec Hussey wrote:

Hello,

I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to push
the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty
essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by the
banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or provide
two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0 is
made.



Thanks for writing this - I was going to write something along the same
lines. the Banshee in the repos is much too basic.



Where is your PKGBUILD up-to-date and with essential features, so that 
people interested would know what you are talking about?




Re: [arch-general] Banshee needs an update

2008-04-17 Thread Justin Gx
Alec Hussey wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to push
> the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty
> essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by the
> banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or provide
> two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0 is
> made.
> 
> Thanks!
> Alec Hussey
> 
> 
> 

Thanks for writing this - I was going to write something along the same
lines. the Banshee in the repos is much too basic.