Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
On Thursday 30. June 2016 18.19.34 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > it'll be a separate pledge... but i only have 57 days to do the > double-checking of the CPU Card! i haven't stopped answering > questions since we hit "launch" yesterday... :) Sure, but don't forget to update the rhombus-tech.net front page to indicate that the campaign is actually running now! :-) Otherwise, people still think it is a "pipedream"... :-/ http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900/2016-07-01 Paul ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Thursday 30. June 2016 18.19.34 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> it'll be a separate pledge... but i only have 57 days to do the >> double-checking of the CPU Card! i haven't stopped answering >> questions since we hit "launch" yesterday... :) > > Sure, but don't forget to update the rhombus-tech.net front page to indicate > that the campaign is actually running now! :-) yep definite DOH :) > Otherwise, people still think it is a "pipedream"... :-/ > > http://irclog.whitequark.org/neo900/2016-07-01 > > Paul > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] Other crowdfunding rewards
Sorry to keep sending suggestions during a very busy time! ;-) I noticed that one of the Trisquel list members made a suggestion about crowdfunding rewards: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/future-libre-computing-crowd-funding-campaign- starts-now#comment-99721 Although I intend to support this campaign because I actually want the products myself, there will be people who just want to support it in its own right. I had a conversation yesterday about this, in fact, after having seen another Crowd Supply campaign add some extra rewards: https://www.crowdsupply.com/knivd/ello-2m/updates/2233 (That's an interesting campaign all by itself, by the way.) Giving people the chance to say that they like the idea, to give more than $5 - yes I see that you can give multiples of $5 - and to maybe get more than a "thank you" but less than any of the main rewards, might broaden the base of supporters. Random merchandise might not be completely compatible with the ecological objectives of the campaign, at least if not done right. Then again, people do need to wear clothes, drink beverages out of containers, and so on. ;-) Paul ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] Other crowdfunding rewards
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > Sorry to keep sending suggestions during a very busy time! ;-) > > I noticed that one of the Trisquel list members made a suggestion about > crowdfunding rewards: > > https://trisquel.info/en/forum/future-libre-computing-crowd-funding-campaign- > starts-now#comment-99721 yeah we thought about it, but didn't quite have time to fit it in at the beginning, but yes you're absolutely right we should add stickers and t-shirts etc. t-shirts are quite pricey but that's ok - yeah people need clothes to wear - but stickers are easy. thanks for reminding us l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
Hello again, I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign: http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/00.html There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various CPU families, notably these threads: http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html (Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.) http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-June/011100.html (Hopes for "truly free processor architectures", which might not be such a fantasy after all, given improvements in Free Software for programmable logic and synthesis.) I rather hope for a solid discussion of the merits of the campaign, as opposed to people just claiming that it can't be done, won't work, or whatever. Paul ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > Hello again, > > I've also posted a message to the FSFE discussion list about the campaign: > > http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-July/00.html ah! thank you! > There have been some discussions on that list about open hardware and the > threats posed by proprietary hardware and the surveillance features of various > CPU families, notably these threads: > > http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html > > (Featuring an attempt to fund a POWER8-based workstation.) thought that said EOMA68-based for a minute did a bit of a double-take there :) l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would you be happy to forward it on my behalf? i need to link some things together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!" because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of a truly libre laptop. more later? l. --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
On Friday 1. July 2016 18.48.54 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > hiya paul if it's ok with you i'd like to write something up, would > you be happy to forward it on my behalf? i need to link some things > together, also i met some of the FSFE people at FOSDEM2016 and would > like them to know "this is what i showed you, it's really happening!" > because so many people there were really excited about the prospect of > a truly libre laptop. > > more later? You can probably post to that list or even subscribe to it without having any FSFE affiliation, but I guess you don't really want to spend too much time repeating yourself everywhere. Nevertheless, I could forward something if it turned out that you couldn't post anything. (There was an initiative to allow guest contributions to various FSFE resources, but things are being rearranged and this might not be the case any more.) In fact, my intention is to write a blog article about EOMA68 (and also other things that have been happening in similar projects), but I decided to write that message first because the FSFE blog site was down at the time. The topic is also pertinent to previous discussions as well, so we will see if anyone feels it worth discussing or not. But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-) Paul ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > But by all means send stuff my way, get in touch privately, or whatever. :-) awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best. http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/ thx! ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
On Friday 1. July 2016 23.17.32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link > to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best. > http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/ It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to link to the above page, too. Paul ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
Good luck, Luke! If the project is oriented to any public, perhaps I would do it more user-friendly. Perhaps it may be interesting to add a video like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNR4zKqa6vI in the campaign but simpler. For example, put the EOMA-68, turn on, and run the graphical interface. Is there any possibility of an EOMA-68 A20 with Android or RemixOS? Perhaps for the general public it is more friendly/well-know than GNU/Linux. It would also be interesting to put sketches or drawings (more user-friendly) explaining the EOMA-68 concept. Perhaps it can be also interesting set goals (if given money is enough). For example, develop an EOMA-68 with Intel x86 with Windows and/or GNU/Linux if it is possible. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:05 AM, GaCuest wrote: > Good luck, Luke! > > If the project is oriented to any public, perhaps I would do it more > user-friendly. > > Perhaps it may be interesting to add a video like this: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNR4zKqa6vI > in the campaign but simpler. For example, put the EOMA-68, > turn on, and run the graphical interface. i've got some of those i'm sure i did one. well, i'm about to do another :) it'll be going on an official update. > Is there any possibility of an EOMA-68 A20 with Android > or RemixOS? Perhaps for the general public it is more > friendly/well-know than GNU/Linux. > > It would also be interesting to put sketches or drawings > (more user-friendly) explaining the EOMA-68 concept. yes - christopher would you like to do that? if anyone else wants to do a video with some explanation feel free okay! > Perhaps it can be also interesting set goals (if given money > is enough). For example, develop an EOMA-68 with Intel > x86 with Windows and/or GNU/Linux if it is possible. *sigh* yea i know, i'm trying, but intel just shut down their smartphone and tablet division, which cuts off the ultra-low-power x86 SoCs they were doing. they *almost* got down to the right power band as well. bleugh. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:05 AM, GaCuest wrote: > > It would also be interesting to put sketches or drawings > > (more user-friendly) explaining the EOMA-68 concept. > > yes - christopher would you like to do that? if anyone else wants to > do a video with some explanation feel free okay! Umm... not really. I'd need some pretty detailed direction, I'm not the sort of artist who can drum something up out of thin air. You don't have time to manage me ;) plus I can't draw figures (people) for crap. > > Perhaps it can be also interesting set goals (if given money > > is enough). For example, develop an EOMA-68 with Intel > > x86 with Windows and/or GNU/Linux if it is possible. Well, that sucks! I just got a MeeGoPad T02 the other day, looks nifty. Atom Z3735F. I'm hoping in the next few days to you know tinker with it some. ...x86 needs some true low-power options... that MeeGoPad BTW comes with a 10w rated power supply. If they don't kill / haven't killed that CPU completely, it might be worth looking into. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Christopher Havel wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> >> --- >> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:05 AM, GaCuest wrote: >> > It would also be interesting to put sketches or drawings >> > (more user-friendly) explaining the EOMA-68 concept. >> >> yes - christopher would you like to do that? if anyone else wants to >> do a video with some explanation feel free okay! > > > Umm... not really. I'd need some pretty detailed direction, I'm not the sort > of artist who can drum something up out of thin air. You don't have time to > manage me ;) plus I can't draw figures (people) for crap. haha ok :) >> >> > Perhaps it can be also interesting set goals (if given money >> > is enough). For example, develop an EOMA-68 with Intel >> > x86 with Windows and/or GNU/Linux if it is possible. > > > Well, that sucks! I just got a MeeGoPad T02 the other day, looks nifty. Atom > Z3735F. I'm hoping in the next few days to you know tinker with it some. yehhh the Z3735 series is the one they're killing off. gr. > ...x86 needs some true low-power options... that MeeGoPad BTW comes with a > 10w rated power supply. i know mad!! > If they don't kill / haven't killed that CPU > completely, it might be worth looking into. > > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > yehhh the Z3735 series is the one they're killing off. gr. > Well, that sucks :( there was some actual potential there. Go figure. Also -- sent you something off-topic off-list. Check yer gmail when you get a few, please :) ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] FSFE discussion list message
thanks good reminder --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Friday 1. July 2016 23.17.32 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> >> awesome ok draft is here, if you feel its appropriate do either link >> to it or post the contents, whatever you feel is best. >> http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/fsfe/ > > It looks good! :-) I'll certainly reference that in my blog article and any > follow-up to the discussion list. Don't forget to link to the thread I started > on the Rhombus Tech crowdsupply wiki page! And that might be a good place to > link to the above page, too. > > Paul > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] crowdfunding page is live
alrightwilldo --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Christopher Havel wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> >> yehhh the Z3735 series is the one they're killing off. gr. > > > Well, that sucks :( there was some actual potential there. Go figure. > > Also -- sent you something off-topic off-list. Check yer gmail when you get > a few, please :) > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
[Arm-netbook] crowdfunding first update
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[Arm-netbook] Fwd: USB-OTG powered hub and cables, and HDMI Type D
hiya folks, i'm noticing that some people are buying just EOMA68-A20 CPU Cards - i need to make up a cable set, would anyone be happy to help source these from somewhere? something i'll need to add to the crowdfunding campaign, is an OTG Host Charger, like this: http://lavalink.com/products/samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-adapters-hubs-poe-hubs-2/usb-otg-host-charge-adapter-tab4-tabpro/ or this: :https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Power-Samsung-Player/dp/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=pd_sim_107_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41ossTm7P2L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&psc=1&refRID=D4B1Z21EVBHSMB74FC5G and a USB-OTG Charger of some kind: https://www.amazon.com/T-Power-Multimedia-Charging-NFC-enabled-Bluetooth/dp/B00KQYE600/ and also a Micro HDMI Type D cable like this: https://www.amazon.com/Kanex-Micro-Cable-Portable-Devices/dp/B003ULNA3K i'll need to get something like QTY 50 of each, to make up a cable set. l. ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk