Re: [arr] HT reviews Mangal Pandey; music continues to be pilloried
On 8/15/05 7:26 PM India Time, _up84mouli_ wrote: Hi Rawat, Hope you are fine. Hi Chadramauli, It is director choice/ skill that is being criticised in the above. MD gives a song asked by the director. How the director then uses the song, and where, that has nothing to do with MD. ARR could not have helped it in any way if holi song retarted the film unnecessarily. YOU HIT THE BULL'S EYE Holi song is more a failure of Javed Akhtar than of anyone else. Every word and figures of speech used in this song are ages old. LYRICS WERE MEANT TO BE AGES OLD. AROUND 150 YEARS OLD, TO BE APPROXIMATE AT THE LEAST. I haven't seen the film, but I think you meant that the Song lyrics should have been in sync with the language that the characters speak. If that had not been the case with this song, then you may be 150% right..! Or, as in your historic string of arguements around a month back, the lyrics were too much periody compared to the non-period music and so, they didnt mangal...oh sorry- mingle well giving the critics something to mangle with... I feel that Javed had given his best lyrics till date in Mangal Pandey. But I was disappointed with the figures of speeches, etc. he selected for holi, because those have been heard a million times, and have lost any feeling as such. That is why I said that Javed could not get this song right. I was not saying about period-ness of the holi lyrics. There could be psychological reasons also. Normally people expect to see a serious, all-business type of personality for a larger than life hero like Mangal Pandey. Hence they could not digest him enjoying small pleasures like playing with colours in the comapny of gorgeous girls, all painted whimsically. YES! I DID EXPECT SUCH A THING BEFORE THE D-DAY (12TH). BUT NOW AFTER READING THE REVIEWS, I AM A BIT CONCERNED. I HOPE THE ENGLISH VERSION IS PROPERLY SCISSORED. Whatever is the case, I will make it someday to the theatres to witness the fictional history. Thanks for reading. Chandra. Regards. -- Rawat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h08vpq4/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124245070/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] HT reviews Mangal Pandey; music continues to be pilloried
Hi Rawat, Hope you are fine. It is director choice/ skill that is being criticised in the above. MD gives a song asked by the director. How the director then uses the song, and where, that has nothing to do with MD. ARR could not have helped it in any way if holi song retarted the film unnecessarily. YOU HIT THE BULL'S EYE Holi song is more a failure of Javed Akhtar than of anyone else. Every word and figures of speech used in this song are ages old. LYRICS WERE MEANT TO BE AGES OLD. AROUND 150 YEARS OLD, TO BE APPROXIMATE AT THE LEAST. I haven't seen the film, but I think you meant that the Song lyrics should have been in sync with the language that the characters speak. If that had not been the case with this song, then you may be 150% right..! Or, as in your historic string of arguements around a month back, the lyrics were too much periody compared to the non-period music and so, they didnt mangal...oh sorry- mingle well giving the critics something to mangle with... There could be psychological reasons also. Normally people expect to see a serious, all-business type of personality for a larger than life hero like Mangal Pandey. Hence they could not digest him enjoying small pleasures like playing with colours in the comapny of gorgeous girls, all painted whimsically. YES! I DID EXPECT SUCH A THING BEFORE THE D-DAY (12TH). BUT NOW AFTER READING THE REVIEWS, I AM A BIT CONCERNED. I HOPE THE ENGLISH VERSION IS PROPERLY SCISSORED. Whatever is the case, I will make it someday to the theatres to witness the fictional history. Thanks for reading. Chandra. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h6oqq21/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124159695/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] HT reviews Mangal Pandey; music continues to be pilloried
On 8/14/05 6:22 AM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote: Rising to salute history Music by AR Rahman is not much to write about. In fact, the Holi track could have been avoided as it retards the movie unnecessarily. It is director choice/ skill that is being criticised in the above. MD gives a song asked by the director. How the director then uses the song, and where, that has nothing to do with MD. ARR could not have helped it in any way if holi song retarted the film unnecessarily. Holi song is more a failure of Javed Akhtar than of anyone else. Every word and figures of speech used in this song are ages old. There could be psychological reasons also. Normally people expect to see a serious, all-business type of personality for a larger than life hero like Mangal Pandey. Hence they could not digest him enjoying small pleasures like playing with colours in the comapny of gorgeous girls, all painted whimsically. -- Rawat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hi788nb/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124035115/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] HT reviews Mangal Pandey; music continues to be pilloried
Rising to salute history Mangal Pandey - The Rising Cast: Aamir Khan, Toby Stephens, Rani Mukerjee Direction: Ketan Mehta Rating: The rating stars are for the goosebumps one gets for the man who sparked the very first fire of Indias struggle for Independence as also for the director who brings alive a saga that remains confined to a paragraph in school textbooks otherwise Mangal Pandey The Rising is an epic. You enter the movie hall with the baggage of massive pre-release hype, but when the story starts to unfold, you realise that Aamir Khan is not actually a star but Mangal Pandey, the sepoy who revolted against the English in 1857. You also realise that Ketan Mehta is not just a big name but a good storyteller who simplifies a few historical nuances making the movie an easy experience and not just a documentary that we have to bear with. The story is of an indomitable spirit called Mangal Pandey, a sepoy in the army of the East India Company. He is close to an English Captain William Gordon (Toby Stephens). Pandey is also a loyal soldier when new bullets are introduced with cartridges greased with cow and pig fat (blasphemous for both Hindu and Muslim soldiers) he is the first to come forward to use it when Gordon denies the rumour in public. The English had, of course, told a lie. When Pandey sees the grease being manufactured through his own eyes, the simmering flame in him rises. The historical fact, dismissed as a Sepoy Mutiny by the English, is of utmost importance for Indias eventual independence, and thats where Mehta succeeds in presenting the movie as such, though a few other historical details might be debatable.The movie is tight, moving from one scene to the other effor-tlessly and keeping the viewer interested. Aamir Khan is a delight, especially when he is all fired up. His flowing locks and impressive moustache add to the look. Rani Mukerjee, as a nautch girl, has not much to do. Amisha Patel as a rescued sati disappoints. Music by AR Rahman is not much to write about. In fact, the Holi track could have been avoided as it retards the movie unnecessarily. And yes, please dont compare the movie with Lagaan, its a different film. We neglect our cities at our peril. For, in neglecting them, we neglect the nation. -John F. Kennedy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h4iqep7/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123988474/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
