[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-17 Thread s kulothungan
generally since the last 5 yrs,the trend has been changed that if the film 
hits, then the average music vil b a hit.. this is to kuch kuch.. film... in 
tamil industry this resembles much...




Re: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-17 Thread Thulasi Ram

hey u highlighted a great point.. if Dil Se was a box-office hit, then audio
sales would have set a new record.. that's for sure..

On 12/17/06, sunath g kolazhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Imagine what wud have been happend if Dile Se was a Mega hit like KKHH!!
It wud have been the record seller album in the history of Bollywood!But
unfortunately it bcame a super flop which also effected the audio sales!!




On 12/17/06, Dinesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   but hey...its Chaiya Chaiya that made Hollywood turn to look at
> Bollywood ;) ;).. after that incident,now do u think that quantity
> sold that really matters  ;) ;)
>
> but no doubt,thier KKHH & DDLJ is an excellent album alltogether
> great melodies & memorable tunes.
>
>
 



[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR.....a question 4u??

2006-12-17 Thread ashwin
J-L have disappointed me big time. I guess this is what makes Rahman 
Sir Great, although he is at the top, he never says "I'm THE BEST, my 
music sells more than XYZ". He is very hubmle and down to earth 
inspite of being one of the best composers of all time. Many have 
criticized him, tried to belittle him, but i must say they have 
wasted their breath. Rahman Sir is a class apart, and mere words of 
frustrated composers are taking nothing away from him.

ash  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ar rahman djs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> well i agree that JL ive hits. but can he make a single hit in 
Tamil, Telugu, or Hollywood?
>   the answer 4 this question will be the answer for this topic. all 
of u knows that Rahman can make hits in all of these languages even 
Chinesehehe. hw  long they gonna keep selling the KKHH. i hope 
all of u can find the diff between these movies. keep in ur mind that 
the movie itself contribute to the sales of the album. is KKHH is a 
terrorist based movie like Dil Se?come on guys Dil Se is a much 
more harder subject than the lovely KKHH.
>
>   If their music speaks. Rahman anna's music can sing, can make ppl 
get crazed, with make ur mouth watering buddy. hehe...lol. more over. 
Jatin & Lalit. can u imagine if both of them separated. OMG. i cant 
imagine it. lol
>
>
>   Kumar
>   AR Rahman DJs
>   Malaysia
>
>   
> Ajit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Why does it even matter what JL said many years back? 
They're not
> even together today. ARR is still going strong. And, yes, KKHH did
> sell more than Dil Se. Does that mean it's a better soundtrack than
> Dil Se? Only an opinion, not a fact, can answer that.
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan 
> wrote:
> >
> > I guess what people are taking offense to, are these lines 
> > > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers
> > waiting
> > > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the
> > > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music 
speaks"
> > > for itself. We're the best."
> > and not their assertion that KKHH sold more than Dil Se.., which 
it
> indeed did.
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Ricky 
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39:31 PM
> > Subject: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so
> judgemental? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH 
sold 
> > 
> > more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
> > 
> > secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
> > 
> > fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired 
to 
> > 
> > listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director' s 
> > 
> > music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of 
course, I 
> > 
> > believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
> > 
> > Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should 
be on 
> > 
> > good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
> > 
> > their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
> > 
> > remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. 
Pehla 
> > 
> > nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
> > 
> > Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
> > 
> > impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
> > 
> > Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
> > 
> > provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre 
of 
> > 
> > marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
> > 
> > bringing in a new dimension to that. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented 
duo 
> > 
> > to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their 
contribution to 
> > 
> > good music.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Ricky
> > 
> > 
> 

[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR - Flash Flash !!!

2006-12-17 Thread saikiran_m
Flash Flash !!! KKHH sold more copies than Dilse in India, but in an 
ironic way Dilse sold huge number of copies than KKHH in West. West 
seems to have good taste for our music than ourselves ! They choose it 
as a title song for a movie, ESPN chooses it as promo for mets vs 
yankees game, and yet, yeah! as some people beleive KKHH is a gem of 
music. Now talk about facts please !


JL digs against ARR shows nothing but jealousy towards him. Be a sport 
JL. How come you have a heart to make comments on the down to earth guy 
like ARR. If you can, please try to give us good music, but until then 
please shuddup!



Re: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR.....a question 4u??

2006-12-16 Thread ar rahman djs
well i agree that JL ive hits. but can he make a single hit in Tamil, Telugu, 
or Hollywood?
  the answer 4 this question will be the answer for this topic. all of u knows 
that Rahman can make hits in all of these languages even Chinesehehe. hw  
long they gonna keep selling the KKHH. i hope all of u can find the diff 
between these movies. keep in ur mind that the movie itself contribute to the 
sales of the album. is KKHH is a terrorist based movie like Dil Se?come on 
guys Dil Se is a much more harder subject than the lovely KKHH.
   
  If their music speaks. Rahman anna's music can sing, can make ppl get crazed, 
with make ur mouth watering buddy. hehe...lol. more over. Jatin & Lalit. can u 
imagine if both of them separated. OMG. i cant imagine it. lol
   
   
  Kumar
  AR Rahman DJs
  Malaysia
   
  
Ajit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Why does it even matter what JL said many years back? They're not
even together today. ARR is still going strong. And, yes, KKHH did
sell more than Dil Se. Does that mean it's a better soundtrack than
Dil Se? Only an opinion, not a fact, can answer that.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I guess what people are taking offense to, are these lines 
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers
> waiting
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the
> > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks"
> > for itself. We're the best."
> and not their assertion that KKHH sold more than Dil Se.., which it
indeed did.
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Ricky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39:31 PM
> Subject: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so
judgemental? 
> 
> 
> 
> Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 
> 
> more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
> 
> secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
> 
> fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 
> 
> listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 
> 
> 
> 
> I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director' s 
> 
> music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 
> 
> believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
> 
> Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 
> 
> good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.
> 
> 
> 
> Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
> 
> their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
> 
> remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 
> 
> nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
> 
> Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
> 
> impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
> 
> Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
> 
> provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 
> 
> marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
> 
> bringing in a new dimension to that. 
> 
> 
> 
> It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 
> 
> to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 
> 
> good music.
> 
> 
> 
> -Ricky
> 
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "rk_rathinam"  
> 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
> 
> > Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
> 
> > are not in speaking terms...LOL. ..just kidding...
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > THE HIT MEN 
> 
> > Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Sangeeta Mahadevan
> 
> > 
> 
> > The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
> 
> > composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
> 
> > Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
> 
> > Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. 
> 
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 
> 
> waiting 
> 
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
> 
> > brothers complain rightaway, and th

Re: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread sunath g kolazhi

Imagine what wud have been happend if Dile Se was a Mega hit like KKHH!! It
wud have been the record seller album in the history of Bollywood!But
unfortunately it bcame a super flop which also effected the audio sales!!




On 12/17/06, Dinesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  but hey...its Chaiya Chaiya that made Hollywood turn to look at
Bollywood ;) ;).. after that incident,now do u think that quantity
sold that really matters  ;) ;)

but no doubt,thier KKHH & DDLJ is an excellent album alltogether
great melodies & memorable tunes.





[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Dinesh
but hey...its Chaiya Chaiya that made Hollywood turn to look at 
Bollywood ;) ;).. after that incident,now do u think that quantity 
sold that really matters  ;) ;)

but no doubt,thier KKHH & DDLJ is an excellent album alltogether 
great melodies & memorable tunes.



[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Ajit
Why does it even matter what JL said many years back?  They're not
even together today.  ARR is still going strong.  And, yes, KKHH did
sell more than Dil Se.  Does that mean it's a better soundtrack than
Dil Se?  Only an opinion, not a fact, can answer that.





--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I guess what people are taking offense to, are these lines 
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers
> waiting
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the
> > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks"
> > for itself. We're the best."
> and not their assertion that KKHH sold more than Dil Se.., which it
indeed did.
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Ricky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39:31 PM
> Subject: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so
judgemental? 
> 
> 
> 
> Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 
> 
> more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
> 
> secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
> 
> fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 
> 
> listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 
> 
> 
> 
> I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director' s 
> 
> music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 
> 
> believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
> 
> Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 
> 
> good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.
> 
> 
> 
> Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
> 
> their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
> 
> remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 
> 
> nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
> 
> Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
> 
> impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
> 
> Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
> 
> provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 
> 
> marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
> 
> bringing in a new dimension to that. 
> 
> 
> 
> It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 
> 
> to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 
> 
> good music.
> 
> 
> 
> -Ricky
> 
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "rk_rathinam"  
> 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
> 
> > Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
> 
> > are not in speaking terms...LOL. ..just kidding...
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > THE HIT MEN 
> 
> > Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Sangeeta Mahadevan
> 
> >  
> 
> > The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
> 
> > composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
> 
> > Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
> 
> > Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  
> 
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 
> 
> waiting 
> 
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
> 
> > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 
> 
> > for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are 
> 
> in 
> 
> > the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is 
> 
> > scheduled to start some time in February-March' 99. And they've also 
> 
> > been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, 
> 
> > for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their 
> 
> > back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch 
> 
> > Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam 
> 
> almost 
> 
> > became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone 
> 
> > up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact tha

Re: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Roshan
guess you didn't read the interview carefully..  

Ricky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  What cynicism 
exists in this group! How can one be so judgemental? 
 
 Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 
 more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
 secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
 fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 
 listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 
 
 I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director's 
 music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 
 believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
 Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 
 good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.
 
 Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
 their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
 remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 
 nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
 Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
 impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
 Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
 provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 
 marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
 bringing in a new dimension to that. 
 
 It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 
 to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 
 good music.
 
 -Ricky
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rk_rathinam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
 >
 > Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
 > Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
 > are not in speaking terms...LOL...just kidding...
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > THE HIT MEN 
 > Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 
 > 
 > Sangeeta Mahadevan
 >  
 > The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
 > composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
 > Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
 > Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  
 > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 
 waiting 
 > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
 > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 
 > for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are 
 in 
 > the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is 
 > scheduled to start some time in February-March'99. And they've also 
 > been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, 
 > for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their 
 > back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch 
 > Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam 
 almost 
 > became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone 
 > up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact that the 
 > songs of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai picked up only after the film's 
 > release. "That's because the songs are situational. People had to 
 > see the film for the music to grow on them," says Jatin. "However 
 we 
 > knew we had a major hit on our hands, because at the premiere 
 > itself, we got a standing ovation from the industry. Check with the 
 > music distributors. Kuch Kuch albums have sold more than AR 
 Rahman's 
 > Dil Se."  
 > 
 > Jatin-Lalit both see red when I point out that Karan Johar and his 
 > buddies made a major contribution to the music of KKHH. News is 
 that 
 > the popular title track is actually a tune conceived by actor Jugal 
 > Hunsraj. "No one can take away the entire credit due to us," the 
 duo 
 > retort. "We admit that Jugal did contribute a little to the title 
 > song but the entire tune is not his."  
 > 
 > Evading the topic, they emphasise that they've delivered with the 
 > other flicks of the year. "We also came up with excellent music for 
 > Khamoshi and Yes Boss," they stress. "If we were flukes then we 
 > couldn't have fooled the industry for so long. Really it's so very 
 > frustrating to justify one's worth to the media. Just because we 
 > don't scream from the rooftops about how good we are, you guys 
 don't 
 > take us seriously." The duo have also just completed work on Kundan 
 > Shah's Loveria, Sanjay Chhel's Khubsoorat, John Mathew's Sarfarosh 
 > and Sunny Deol's Dillagi. Wonder whose idea it was to rope in Aamir 
 > Khan to sing for Ghulam and Jatin-Lalit say, "It was Vikram Bhatt's 
 > idea. On our way to Film City one day Aamir sang a number which he 
 > wooed his wife Reena with. We asked him to give playback for Aati 
 > kya Khandala because there was so much emotion and warmth in his 
 > voice. But even we couldn't have imagined that the song would 
 become 
 > so 

[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Ajit
Good points Ricky.  I agree with you.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Ricky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so judgemental? 
> 
> Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 
> more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
> secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
> fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 
> listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 
> 
> I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director's 
> music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 
> believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
> Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 
> good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.
> 
> Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
> their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
> remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 
> nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
> Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
> impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
> Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
> provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 
> marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
> bringing in a new dimension to that. 
> 
> It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 
> to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 
> good music.
> 
> -Ricky
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rk_rathinam"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
> > Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
> > are not in speaking terms...LOL...just kidding...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > THE HIT MEN 
> > Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 
> > 
> > Sangeeta Mahadevan
> >  
> > The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
> > composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
> > Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
> > Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 
> waiting 
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
> > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 
> > for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are 
> in 
> > the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is 
> > scheduled to start some time in February-March'99. And they've also 
> > been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, 
> > for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their 
> > back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch 
> > Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam 
> almost 
> > became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone 
> > up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact that the 
> > songs of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai picked up only after the film's 
> > release. "That's because the songs are situational. People had to 
> > see the film for the music to grow on them," says Jatin. "However 
> we 
> > knew we had a major hit on our hands, because at the premiere 
> > itself, we got a standing ovation from the industry. Check with the 
> > music distributors. Kuch Kuch albums have sold more than AR 
> Rahman's 
> > Dil Se."  
> > 
> > Jatin-Lalit both see red when I point out that Karan Johar and his 
> > buddies made a major contribution to the music of KKHH. News is 
> that 
> > the popular title track is actually a tune conceived by actor Jugal 
> > Hunsraj. "No one can take away the entire credit due to us," the 
> duo 
> > retort. "We admit that Jugal did contribute a little to the title 
> > song but the entire tune is not his."  
> > 
> > Evading the topic, they emphasise that they've delivered with the 
> > other flicks of the year. "We also came up with excellent music for 
> > Khamoshi and Yes Boss," they stress. "If we were flukes then we 
> > couldn't have fooled the industry for so long. Really it's so very 
> > frustrating to justify one's worth to the media. Just because we 
> > don't scream from the rooftops about how good we are, you guys 
> don't 
> > take us seriously." The duo have also just completed work on Kundan 
> > Shah's Loveria, Sanjay Chhel's Khubsoorat, John Mathew's Sarfarosh 
> > and Sunny Deol's Dillagi. Wonder whose idea it was to rope in Aamir 
> > Khan to sing for Ghulam and Jatin-Lalit say, "It was Vikram Bhatt's 
> > idea. On our way to Film City one day Aamir sang a number which he 
> > wooed his wife Reena with. We asked him to give playback for Aati 
> > kya Khandala because there was so much emotion and warmth in his 
> 

[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Ricky
Gopal thanks for the clarification.

But still, somehow I fail to see how this 'directly' related to
Rahman. Albeit, he did have long hair then, and did have delays with
producers -- this comment to me seems generic.

I think here the frustration on JL's side is that inspite of coming up
with good melodies, they haven't ever been acknowledged as No 1 yet.
Their point of argument is that they don't change appearances (in
today's world - Himesh) and they don't create fake arrogances (in
today's world - Himesh, yet again) -- to create the impression of
greatness. 

I have read various articles where JL have acknowledged Rahman's music
and its greatness. So, I think this article / quote is totally out of
context.

More over, I also fail to see the need of bringing such cynicism to
the group that should be more focused on great music, and Rahman. Am I
wrong in expecting that?

-Ricky

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I guess what people are taking offense to, are these lines 
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers
> waiting
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the
> > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks"
> > for itself. We're the best."
> and not their assertion that KKHH sold more than Dil Se.., which it
indeed did.
> 
> - Original Message ----
> From: Ricky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39:31 PM
> Subject: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so
judgemental? 
> 
> 
> 
> Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 
> 
> more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
> 
> secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
> 
> fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 
> 
> listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 
> 
> 
> 
> I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director' s 
> 
> music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 
> 
> believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
> 
> Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 
> 
> good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.
> 
> 
> 
> Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
> 
> their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
> 
> remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 
> 
> nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
> 
> Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
> 
> impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
> 
> Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
> 
> provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 
> 
> marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
> 
> bringing in a new dimension to that. 
> 
> 
> 
> It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 
> 
> to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 
> 
> good music.
> 
> 
> 
> -Ricky
> 
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "rk_rathinam"  
> 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
> 
> > Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
> 
> > are not in speaking terms...LOL. ..just kidding...
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > THE HIT MEN 
> 
> > Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Sangeeta Mahadevan
> 
> >  
> 
> > The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
> 
> > composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
> 
> > Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
> 
> > Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  
> 
> > "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 
> 
> waiting 
> 
> > outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
> 
> > brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 
> 
> > for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are 
> 
> in 
> 
> > the midst of finalising tunes for A

Re: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Gopal Srinivasan
I guess what people are taking offense to, are these lines 
> "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers
waiting
> outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the
> brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks"
> for itself. We're the best."
and not their assertion that KKHH sold more than Dil Se.., which it indeed did.

- Original Message 
From: Ricky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39:31 PM
Subject: [arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR









  



What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so judgemental? 



Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 

more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 

secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 

fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 

listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 



I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director' s 

music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 

believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 

Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 

good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.



Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 

their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 

remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 

nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 

Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 

impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 

Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 

provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 

marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 

bringing in a new dimension to that. 



It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 

to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 

good music.



-Ricky



--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "rk_rathinam"  

wrote:

>

> Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 

> Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 

> are not in speaking terms...LOL. ..just kidding...

> 

> 

> 

> THE HIT MEN 

> Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 

> 

> Sangeeta Mahadevan

>  

> The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 

> composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 

> Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 

> Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  

> "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 

waiting 

> outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 

> brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 

> for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are 

in 

> the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is 

> scheduled to start some time in February-March' 99. And they've also 

> been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, 

> for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their 

> back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch 

> Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam 

almost 

> became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone 

> up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact that the 

> songs of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai picked up only after the film's 

> release. "That's because the songs are situational. People had to 

> see the film for the music to grow on them," says Jatin. "However 

we 

> knew we had a major hit on our hands, because at the premiere 

> itself, we got a standing ovation from the industry. Check with the 

> music distributors. Kuch Kuch albums have sold more than AR 

Rahman's 

> Dil Se."  

> 

> Jatin-Lalit both see red when I point out that Karan Johar and his 

> buddies made a major contribution to the music of KKHH. News is 

that 

> the popular title track is actually a tune conceived by actor Jugal 

> Hunsraj. "No one can take away the entire credit due to us," the 

duo 

> retort. "We admit that Jugal did contribute a little to the title 

> song but the entire tune is not his."  

> 

> Evading the topic, they emphasise that they've delivered with the 

> other flicks of the year. "We also came up with excellent music for 

> Khamoshi 

[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-16 Thread Ricky
What cynicism exists in this group! How can one be so judgemental? 

Essentially what Jatin Lalit are saying is that their album KKHH sold 
more copies than Dil Se. First of all, those were the facts. And 
secondly, they are not belittling the music of Dil Se at all! In 
fact, it shows that the current phase of music listening is wired to 
listen more to 'entertainment' music than 'classic' music. 

I have grown tired of people putting down other music-director's 
music, implying that only Rahman can create good music. Of course, I 
believe with all of Rahman fans, that he is the best. But, even 
Rahman appreciates good music by other people. The focus should be on 
good music, not on rebelling against non-Rahman music.

Jatin Lalit have been praised by even Rahman at times, as having 
their own original style of music. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai till date 
remains one of the most popular love songs of this generation. Pehla 
nasha, all songs from DDLJ, Khamoshi, Ghulam, Sarfaroosh, Chalte 
Chalte, Yes Boss, and all the way to Fannah -- they have some 
impressive line up of gems. And something JL really brought to 
Bollywood was the youth feel combined with RDBurman touches, to 
provide very up-beat and feel good music. And as far as the genre of 
marriage numbers is concerned, Jatin Lalit do take the cake with 
bringing in a new dimension to that. 

It is indeed unfortunate for Bollywood to have lost this talented duo 
to personal conflicts. However, lets not forget their contribution to 
good music.

-Ricky


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rk_rathinam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
> Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
> are not in speaking terms...LOL...just kidding...
> 
> 
> 
> THE HIT MEN 
> Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 
> 
> Sangeeta Mahadevan
>  
> The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
> composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
> Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
> Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  
> "Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers 
waiting 
> outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
> brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 
> for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are 
in 
> the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is 
> scheduled to start some time in February-March'99. And they've also 
> been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, 
> for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their 
> back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch 
> Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam 
almost 
> became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone 
> up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact that the 
> songs of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai picked up only after the film's 
> release. "That's because the songs are situational. People had to 
> see the film for the music to grow on them," says Jatin. "However 
we 
> knew we had a major hit on our hands, because at the premiere 
> itself, we got a standing ovation from the industry. Check with the 
> music distributors. Kuch Kuch albums have sold more than AR 
Rahman's 
> Dil Se."  
> 
> Jatin-Lalit both see red when I point out that Karan Johar and his 
> buddies made a major contribution to the music of KKHH. News is 
that 
> the popular title track is actually a tune conceived by actor Jugal 
> Hunsraj. "No one can take away the entire credit due to us," the 
duo 
> retort. "We admit that Jugal did contribute a little to the title 
> song but the entire tune is not his."  
> 
> Evading the topic, they emphasise that they've delivered with the 
> other flicks of the year. "We also came up with excellent music for 
> Khamoshi and Yes Boss," they stress. "If we were flukes then we 
> couldn't have fooled the industry for so long. Really it's so very 
> frustrating to justify one's worth to the media. Just because we 
> don't scream from the rooftops about how good we are, you guys 
don't 
> take us seriously." The duo have also just completed work on Kundan 
> Shah's Loveria, Sanjay Chhel's Khubsoorat, John Mathew's Sarfarosh 
> and Sunny Deol's Dillagi. Wonder whose idea it was to rope in Aamir 
> Khan to sing for Ghulam and Jatin-Lalit say, "It was Vikram Bhatt's 
> idea. On our way to Film City one day Aamir sang a number which he 
> wooed his wife Reena with. We asked him to give playback for Aati 
> kya Khandala because there was so much emotion and warmth in his 
> voice. But even we couldn't have imagined that the song would 
become 
> so popular."  
> 
> The composers have been composing music mainly for the movies of 
> Shah Rukh, Aamir and Salman. "But that doesn't mean that we don't 
> give our best for Ajay Devgan, Sanjay Dutt or Sunny Deol," the

[arr] Re: Highlighted are J-L's digs at ARR

2006-12-15 Thread rk_rathinam
Look at happened to these people (Jatin-Lalit) who spoke ill of AR 
Rahman...their music speaks for itself, it seems...today they both 
are not in speaking terms...LOL...just kidding...



THE HIT MEN 
Jatin-Lalit stake their claim to fame 

Sangeeta Mahadevan
 
The mood's militant. And why not? After all Jatin-Lalit have 
composed the music for five hits this year - Pyaar Kiya To Darna 
Kya, Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai, Ghulam, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha and 
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.  
"Just because we don't wear our hair long and keep producers waiting 
outside our door we haven't been acknowledged as No 1 yet," the 
brothers complain rightaway, and then assert, "But our music speaks 
for itself. We're the best." At this very moment, Jatin-Lalit are in 
the midst of finalising tunes for Aditya Chopra's next, which is 
scheduled to start some time in February-March'99. And they've also 
been signed on for Shah Rukh Khan-Juhi Chawla's joint production, 
for which they've just recorded a song. Patting themselves on their 
back, the duo says, "Every TV channel has our title song for Kuch 
Kuch Hota Hai. Some months ago, Aati kya Khandala from Ghulam almost 
became the national anthem. Apparently tourism in Khandala has gone 
up by 30 per cent after the song." They assent to the fact that the 
songs of Kuch Kuch Hota Hai picked up only after the film's 
release. "That's because the songs are situational. People had to 
see the film for the music to grow on them," says Jatin. "However we 
knew we had a major hit on our hands, because at the premiere 
itself, we got a standing ovation from the industry. Check with the 
music distributors. Kuch Kuch albums have sold more than AR Rahman's 
Dil Se."  

Jatin-Lalit both see red when I point out that Karan Johar and his 
buddies made a major contribution to the music of KKHH. News is that 
the popular title track is actually a tune conceived by actor Jugal 
Hunsraj. "No one can take away the entire credit due to us," the duo 
retort. "We admit that Jugal did contribute a little to the title 
song but the entire tune is not his."  

Evading the topic, they emphasise that they've delivered with the 
other flicks of the year. "We also came up with excellent music for 
Khamoshi and Yes Boss," they stress. "If we were flukes then we 
couldn't have fooled the industry for so long. Really it's so very 
frustrating to justify one's worth to the media. Just because we 
don't scream from the rooftops about how good we are, you guys don't 
take us seriously." The duo have also just completed work on Kundan 
Shah's Loveria, Sanjay Chhel's Khubsoorat, John Mathew's Sarfarosh 
and Sunny Deol's Dillagi. Wonder whose idea it was to rope in Aamir 
Khan to sing for Ghulam and Jatin-Lalit say, "It was Vikram Bhatt's 
idea. On our way to Film City one day Aamir sang a number which he 
wooed his wife Reena with. We asked him to give playback for Aati 
kya Khandala because there was so much emotion and warmth in his 
voice. But even we couldn't have imagined that the song would become 
so popular."  

The composers have been composing music mainly for the movies of 
Shah Rukh, Aamir and Salman. "But that doesn't mean that we don't 
give our best for Ajay Devgan, Sanjay Dutt or Sunny Deol," they 
insist. "Music doesn't know any barriers. A good tune just happens. 
Even if we tried, we couldn't do a Khamoshi again. Every song in the 
film was memorable.' They're staunch RD Burman fans. "It's sad that 
the industry didn't give him his due in the last few years of his 
life," Lalit laments. "I wish Panchamda had been around when 1942-A 
Love Story was released. Its music still haunts us." "We don't 
believe in imposing our favourites on producers like some other 
composers do," Lalit thunders. "Jatin sings extremely well. He's 
even bringing out a private album as a singer. But we don't force 
film-makers to use Jatin's voice. Our sister Vijayeta sings 
beautifully, too.  

She even does her riyaaz regularly. Yet we don't force producers to 
give her songs." And what about badi didi Sulakshana? Talk is that 
she's out of work...and is upset by the fact that even her own 
brothers haven't stood by her? "Sulakshana has lost her touch," says 
Lalit. "As brothers, we'd like to help her out. But we cannot harm 
our career by insisting on her. "We're cool with everyone," they 
say, mentioning the names of Udit Narayan, Abhijeet, Alka Yagnik and 
Kavita Krishnamurthy in quick succession. "And we do as we're told 
by the film-makers." Right on.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Group, just check out the dig(highlighted - bold, underlined and 
italicised)
> that Jatin-Lalit have made at ARR in the following
> interview to Filmfare. Not only is it totally uncalled for, they 
simply don't
> have the moral right to make any such digs at ARR.
> 
> 
> ---
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