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tions are not that high. As I ramble on, I just want to address the final point. I am sure a lot of people prefer Dil Se to Delhi 6 and Roja to Jodha Akbar. That is not the point. If we were to think like that, I think the Mani-ARR combo and Rahman in general, would have disappointed me constantly, since I feel no ARR work can match up to Thiruda Thiruda. The point I am trying to make is that, Rahman has crafted an excellent album with Jodha Akbar. He has crafted a modern masterpiece with Delhi 6. He has created waves with VtV. We even got an excellent 90s album of Rahman with Ada. These are all recent releases. Now, when Rahman can make such excellent albums with other directors with whom his rapport is definately not on the same level as Mani, isn't it disappointing that, with Mani, who he shares the greatest rapport with, he makes an album like Guru, which I really don't think compares to the other albums I have named? Well, anyway, we are coming from opposite sides, but I guess both of us want the same thing... a classic album from the Mani-ARR combo and a classic movie from Mani. I am yet to pick up the soundtrack of Raavan, (having become a new father keeps me really busy), but I will buy it sometime today and maybe after a few months, when the music sinks in and I have watched the movie a few times, we can continue our discussion!! And if I end up not liking the album much, I will not as for my money back and risk Gopal's wrath! --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Indmov Buff wrote: From: Indmov Buff Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 12:27 AM
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undtracks by giving each of them a unique track which doesn't feature in the other. Loving the tracklist ad the choice of singers for both. And that for me is the magical Mani-ARR combo. I think (and hope) that Raavan will be the movie/soundtrack of the year. Whether it would be at the awards ceremonies,that's another story. Lost faith in these awards when Kabir Khan was awarded best actor over a Gurukanth Desai! Thanks for initiating this discussion! --- On Fri, 23/4/10, Triply R. wrote: >From: Triply R. >Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" >will be in Raavan >To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com >Date: Friday, 23 April, 2010, 5:24 > > >And picking up the various > threads > >Rawat, I really don't care to go back to SdM to tell you why I did not like >the album. I know that would disappoint you that I am just writing it off. But >I did invest a lot of time listening to the album and it somehow never stuck >with me. I felt it was disappointing because it seemed like Rahman on an off >day. I'm stepping on another landmine here, but it seemed more like the work >of Rahman who made Tenali rather than the one who made Delhi 6. It happens to >fans, especially to me. I worship Rahman, but I do not like all his work. SdM >is, for me, along with Tenali, his weakest album. It is, bad! > >Vimaljk and especially Indmov Buff, yes, I think it was a little high handed >to make such a blanket statement. But consider this... all Mani's masterpieces >are in Tamil. Watch Aayutha Ezhuthu and Yuva back > to back and see which has the Mani Ratnam touch it's AE. Yuva is a > disappointment compared with AE. And think about it, AE is itself considered > to be Mani's weaker efforts (though it is one of my favorites). Then you have > Guru, which, as I already said, felt weak for me. Before this, you had Dil > Se.., which underwhelmed me the first time I saw it, but as I thought more > and more about it, it really stuck with me. But still, Dil Se.., after > Iruvar? I just have a theory that Mani does not have that ingrained knowledge > and instinct of Hindi that he has of Tamil. That ingrained knowledge and > instinct is the "Mani Ratnam" touch for me. Remember Pyramid Natarajan in > Alai Paayuthey? Remember Bharathiraja in AE? There aren't such characters in > his Hindi >movies. >So, when Mani ends up making another Hindi movie, for me, I have low >expectations, since I feel the Mani Ratnam touch is > missing. To overcome that, he needs a powerful script with an entertaining > story. That is what I want in Raavan. Will it be better in Tamil? I don't > know, but I do think it would be better. (On a side note, Is it still called > "Asokavanam" , or is it now "Raavan" even in Tamil? Last I remember was that > there was some problem with calling it "Asokavanam" .) > >As for the Mani-ARR combo, I am not saying that other directors are better >with ARR. All I'm saying is that we got Jodha Akbar and Delhi 6 with other >directors but the last taste of the Mani-ARR combo was Guru, which was, I >feel, not as good as the other 2 albums I mentioned. >There was a lot of expectation, hype and hoopla that ARR was working with >Gautham Menon, and that album turned out to be amazing. I want that magic back >with ARR and Mani. I want a great movie with a great background score and > a classic soundtrack. > >And finally, I love Aayutha Ezhuthu. I love the soundtrack and the movie. I >revisit the movie at least once in 6 months. For me, that was a hat-rick of >great Mani movies, following AP and KM. With three movies that I loved so >much, it's no wonder that Guru pissed me off so much that I am wary of the >next Mani Ratnam movie!! > >Another minor grouse I have is, after Mani worked with Suriya in AE (and I >think he also dubbed for Abhishiek for the Tamil version), how can he cast >anyone else?? For me, even an actor like Vikram, who is of such high caliber, >is just miles behind the phenomenon that is Suriya! > >Feel free to disagree! > --- On Fri, 23/4/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: >From: Gayathri Chandrakasan >Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" >will be in Raavan >To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com >Date: Friday, 23 April, 2010, 9:04 > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >Agree whole-heartedly to all your points, Indmov Buff :) > >--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Indmov Buff wrote: > > >>From: Indmov Buff >>Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" a
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u r absolutely right brother... --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Indmov Buff wrote: From: Indmov Buff Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:28 PM You say : " Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. " Wow, that's a bit high handed! What, with Idayathai Thirudathe, Agni Natchathiram, Naayagan, Mouna Raagam, Anjali, Thalapathi, Roja, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and Guru (even if you thought the last was not up to mark), you still think he's unable to present a "good story" well, then perhaps his movies are not your cup of tea and never will be. Mani in my opinion is the best in India. He has the rare talent to present artistic cinema with commercial aspects in a well defined package. All his subjects are very much South Asian at heart ie. his movies are not Hollywood wannabes like most rubbish these days. It's like having an authentic South Asian meal for moviegoers from different cultures, retaining the values and vibrations of what we have in our very diverse culture. And he's also consistently presented excellent visuals (be it in Mounda Raagam with PC Sreeram or Dil se with Santosh Sivan) with a fairly good eye for details. You also say "He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is" Not sure how many would approve here, but for me Mani brings out a dimension in AR that no one else is able to bring. It's like the x-factor (as cheesy as that sounds). Gowarikar and Mehra have done well too but they are only two films old. Whereas Mani is 10 films old and if one were to choose 5 all time favourite AR soundtracks, I am certain at least 2-3 of the Mani-ARR combo soundtracks will make it to most of our lists. Certainly mine. Check out a poll we had on t his last year- the figures say it all. Mani therefore has nothing to prove. Raavan has been my most anticipated soundtrack since Guru purely because it is a ARR-Mani and therefore comes with a tradition of delivering magic that we cannot see in another soundtrack and especially when it comes from the man who introduced AR to films. --- On Thu, 22/4/10, Triply R. wrote: From: Triply R. Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, 22 April, 2010, 6:56 I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's see, we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have Guru. No doubt, Guru is the worst of that lot. Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other Mani movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani because of Rahman! I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they both turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining again. Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog Millionare and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that is the Delhi 6 soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the next 10 years! And when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on an already excellent cake! But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: From: Gayathri Chandrakasan Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. >
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bro... i agree with ur email 100%. u just wrote what is in my mind. great! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Triply R." wrote: > > And picking up the various threads > Â > Rawat, I really don't care to go back to SdM to tell you why I did not like > the album. I know that would disappoint you that I am just writing it off. > But I did invest a lot of time listening to the album and it somehow never > stuck with me. I felt it was disappointing because it seemed like Rahman on > an off day. I'm stepping on another landmine here, but it seemed more like > the work of Rahman who made Tenali rather than the one who made Delhi 6. It > happens to fans, especially to me. I worship Rahman, but I do not like all > his work. SdM is, for me, along with Tenali, his weakest album. It is, bad! > Â > Vimaljk and especially Indmov Buff, yes, I think it was a little high handed > to make such a blanket statement. But consider this... all Mani's > masterpieces are in Tamil. Watch Aayutha Ezhuthu and Yuva back to back and > see which has the Mani Ratnam touch it's AE. Yuva is a disappointment > compared with AE. And think about it, AE is itself considered to be Mani's > weaker efforts (though it is one of my favorites). Then you have Guru, which, > as I already said, felt weak for me. Before this, you had Dil Se.., which > underwhelmed me the first time I saw it, but as I thought more and more about > it, it really stuck with me. But still, Dil Se.., after Iruvar? I just have a > theory that Mani does not have that ingrained knowledge and instinct of Hindi > that he has of Tamil. That ingrained knowledge and instinct is the "Mani > Ratnam" touch for me. Remember Pyramid Natarajan in Alai Paayuthey? Remember > Bharathiraja in AE? There aren't such characters in his Hindi > movies. > So, when Mani ends up making another Hindi movie, for me, I have low > expectations, since I feel the Mani Ratnam touch is missing. To overcome > that, he needs a powerful script with an entertaining story. That is what I > want in Raavan. Will it be better in Tamil? I don't know, but I do think it > would be better. (On a side note, Is it still called "Asokavanam", or is it > now "Raavan" even in Tamil? Last I remember was that there was some problem > with calling it "Asokavanam".) > > As for the Mani-ARR combo, I am not saying that other directors are better > with ARR. All I'm saying is that we got Jodha Akbar and Delhi 6 with other > directors but the last taste of the Mani-ARR combo was Guru, which was, I > feel, not as good as the other 2 albums I mentioned. > There was a lot of expectation, hype and hoopla that ARR was working with > Gautham Menon, and that album turned out to be amazing. I want that magic > back with ARR and Mani. I want a great movie with a great background score > and a classic soundtrack. > > And finally, I love Aayutha Ezhuthu. I love the soundtrack and the movie. I > revisit the movie at least once in 6 months. For me, that was a hat-rick of > great Mani movies, following AP and KM. With three movies that I loved so > much, it's no wonder that Guru pissed me off so much that I am wary of the > next Mani Ratnam movie!! > > Another minor grouse I have is, after Mani worked with Suriya in AE (and I > think he also dubbed for Abhishiek for the Tamil version), how can he cast > anyone else?? For me, even an actor like Vikram, who is of such high caliber, > is just miles behind the phenomenon that is Suriya! > > Feel free to disagree! > > Currently listening to: "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" Soundtrack. > > --- On Thu, 4/22/10, kishore parayath wrote: > > > From: kishore parayath > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" > will be in Raavan > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:25 PM > > > Â > > > > THIRUDA THIRUDA and IRUVAR are the STRONGEST ones.. With ROJA and DILSE being > special ones! YUVA was not at all BAD. >
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And picking up the various threads Rawat, I really don't care to go back to SdM to tell you why I did not like the album. I know that would disappoint you that I am just writing it off. But I did invest a lot of time listening to the album and it somehow never stuck with me. I felt it was disappointing because it seemed like Rahman on an off day. I'm stepping on another landmine here, but it seemed more like the work of Rahman who made Tenali rather than the one who made Delhi 6. It happens to fans, especially to me. I worship Rahman, but I do not like all his work. SdM is, for me, along with Tenali, his weakest album. It is, bad! Vimaljk and especially Indmov Buff, yes, I think it was a little high handed to make such a blanket statement. But consider this... all Mani's masterpieces are in Tamil. Watch Aayutha Ezhuthu and Yuva back to back and see which has the Mani Ratnam touch it's AE. Yuva is a disappointment compared with AE. And think about it, AE is itself considered to be Mani's weaker efforts (though it is one of my favorites). Then you have Guru, which, as I already said, felt weak for me. Before this, you had Dil Se.., which underwhelmed me the first time I saw it, but as I thought more and more about it, it really stuck with me. But still, Dil Se.., after Iruvar? I just have a theory that Mani does not have that ingrained knowledge and instinct of Hindi that he has of Tamil. That ingrained knowledge and instinct is the "Mani Ratnam" touch for me. Remember Pyramid Natarajan in Alai Paayuthey? Remember Bharathiraja in AE? There aren't such characters in his Hindi movies. So, when Mani ends up making another Hindi movie, for me, I have low expectations, since I feel the Mani Ratnam touch is missing. To overcome that, he needs a powerful script with an entertaining story. That is what I want in Raavan. Will it be better in Tamil? I don't know, but I do think it would be better. (On a side note, Is it still called "Asokavanam", or is it now "Raavan" even in Tamil? Last I remember was that there was some problem with calling it "Asokavanam".) As for the Mani-ARR combo, I am not saying that other directors are better with ARR. All I'm saying is that we got Jodha Akbar and Delhi 6 with other directors but the last taste of the Mani-ARR combo was Guru, which was, I feel, not as good as the other 2 albums I mentioned. There was a lot of expectation, hype and hoopla that ARR was working with Gautham Menon, and that album turned out to be amazing. I want that magic back with ARR and Mani. I want a great movie with a great background score and a classic soundtrack. And finally, I love Aayutha Ezhuthu. I love the soundtrack and the movie. I revisit the movie at least once in 6 months. For me, that was a hat-rick of great Mani movies, following AP and KM. With three movies that I loved so much, it's no wonder that Guru pissed me off so much that I am wary of the next Mani Ratnam movie!! Another minor grouse I have is, after Mani worked with Suriya in AE (and I think he also dubbed for Abhishiek for the Tamil version), how can he cast anyone else?? For me, even an actor like Vikram, who is of such high caliber, is just miles behind the phenomenon that is Suriya! Feel free to disagree! Currently listening to: "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" Soundtrack. --- On Thu, 4/22/10, kishore parayath wrote: From: kishore parayath Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 9:25 PM THIRUDA THIRUDA and IRUVAR are the STRONGEST ones.. With ROJA and DILSE being special ones! YUVA was not at all BAD.
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Agree whole-heartedly to all your points, Indmov Buff :) --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Indmov Buff wrote: From: Indmov Buff Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 7:58 AM You say : " Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. " Wow, that's a bit high handed! What, with Idayathai Thirudathe, Agni Natchathiram, Naayagan, Mouna Raagam, Anjali, Thalapathi, Roja, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and Guru (even if you thought the last was not up to mark), you still think he's unable to present a "good story" well, then perhaps his movies are not your cup of tea and never will be. Mani in my opinion is the best in India. He has the rare talent to present artistic cinema with commercial aspects in a well defined package. All his subjects are very much South Asian at heart ie. his movies are not Hollywood wannabes like most rubbish these days. It's like having an authentic South Asian meal for moviegoers from different cultures, retaining the values and vibrations of what we have in our very diverse culture. And he's also consistently presented excellent visuals (be it in Mounda Raagam with PC Sreeram or Dil se with Santosh Sivan) with a fairly good eye for details. You also say "He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is" Not sure how many would approve here, but for me Mani brings out a dimension in AR that no one else is able to bring. It's like the x-factor (as cheesy as that sounds). Gowarikar and Mehra have done well too but they are only two films old. Whereas Mani is 10 films old and if one were to choose 5 all time favourite AR soundtracks, I am certain at least 2-3 of the Mani-ARR combo soundtracks will make it to most of our lists. Certainly mine. Check out a poll we had on t his last year- the figures say it all. Mani therefore has nothing to prove. Raavan has been my most anticipated soundtrack since Guru purely because it is a ARR-Mani and therefore comes with a tradition of delivering magic that we cannot see in another soundtrack and especially when it comes from the man who introduced AR to films. --- On Thu, 22/4/10, Triply R. wrote: From: Triply R. Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, 22 April, 2010, 6:56 I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's see, we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have Guru. No doubt, Guru is the worst of that lot. Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other Mani movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani because of Rahman! I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they both turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining again. Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog Millionare and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that is the Delhi 6 soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the next 10 years! And when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on an already excellent cake! But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: From: Gayathri Chandrakasan Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. >
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You say : " Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. " Wow, that's a bit high handed! What, with Idayathai Thirudathe, Agni Natchathiram, Naayagan, Mouna Raagam, Anjali, Thalapathi, Roja, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and Guru (even if you thought the last was not up to mark), you still think he's unable to present a "good story" well, then perhaps his movies are not your cup of tea and never will be. Mani in my opinion is the best in India. He has the rare talent to present artistic cinema with commercial aspects in a well defined package. All his subjects are very much South Asian at heart ie. his movies are not Hollywood wannabes like most rubbish these days. It's like having an authentic South Asian meal for moviegoers from different cultures, retaining the values and vibrations of what we have in our very diverse culture. And he's also consistently presented excellent visuals (be it in Mounda Raagam with PC Sreeram or Dil se with Santosh Sivan) with a fairly good eye for details. You also say "He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is" Not sure how many would approve here, but for me Mani brings out a dimension in AR that no one else is able to bring. It's like the x-factor (as cheesy as that sounds). Gowarikar and Mehra have done well too but they are only two films old. Whereas Mani is 10 films old and if one were to choose 5 all time favourite AR soundtracks, I am certain at least 2-3 of the Mani-ARR combo soundtracks will make it to most of our lists. Certainly mine. Check out a poll we had on t his last year- the figures say it all. Mani therefore has nothing to prove. Raavan has been my most anticipated soundtrack since Guru purely because it is a ARR-Mani and therefore comes with a tradition of delivering magic that we cannot see in another soundtrack and especially when it comes from the man who introduced AR to films. --- On Thu, 22/4/10, Triply R. wrote: From: Triply R. Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 22 April, 2010, 6:56 I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's see, we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have Guru. No doubt, Guru is the worst of that lot. Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other Mani movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani because of Rahman! I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they both turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining again. Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog Millionare and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that is the Delhi 6 soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the next 10 years! And when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on an already excellent cake! But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: From: Gayathri Chandrakasan Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. >
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THIRUDA THIRUDA and IRUVAR are the STRONGEST ones.. With ROJA and DILSE being special ones! YUVA was not at all BAD.
Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan
may be GURU IS THE WEAKEST OF MANI-ARR COMBO .. but no way it was bad or mediocre..so do SLUMDOG... I kind a enjoyed EK LO EK MUFT .. SLUMDOG AND GURU are masterpiece in their own standards .. as far as YUVA bieng the weakest of ARR-MANI combo .. i don't even dare to think that.. YUVA was PRICELESS .. just like meenaxi .. though they couldn't become a rage at the time of their release .. don't know why? .. BUT THEY ARE GREAT ALBUMS.. AS FAR AS ARR topping his music of VTV ... he's used to top his previous efforts and as far as i heard those 30 sec. audio preview of RAAVAN songs...he already has.. final verdict .. when the album will release.. From: vimaljk To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 7:14:57 PM Subject: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan i understand if u don't like Slumdog as much as others but bad?c'mon man!...O Saya and Latika's theme are masterpieces, Jai Ho is so brilliantly structured!. am sure Raavan/Ravana' s music will be good...but my expectations are a bit lower since Vinnai Thandi Varuvaya was SO good that i don't see Rahman topping it for some time i think soundtrack wise Yuva/Aayitha Ezhuthu is the weakest of the combo though it's of course an excellent soundtrack.. ...Guru has "Barso Re" "Jaage Hain" and "Aye Hairathe"... .an album can't fail with such great songs! Mani has nothing to prove..sure Guru was just OK by his standards but he has made many so great movies for such a long period of time that he can be excused for delivering a relatively weaker one here and therealso. ...before we say he's out of form...remember that he delivered his second best film (after Iruvar) with Kannathil Muthamittal in 2003...not too long ago... --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Triply R." wrote: > > I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's see, > we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, > Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have Guru. No doubt, Guru > is the worst of that lot. > Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other Mani > movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani because of > Rahman! > Â > I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on > watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they both > turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can tell a > good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the Mani-ARR > combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining again. > Â > Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog Millionare > and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that is the Delhi 6 > soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the next 10 years! And > when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on an already excellent > cake! > Â > But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is > medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! > > --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: > > > From: Gayathri Chandrakasan > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" > will be in Raavan > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM > > > Â > > > > > > > > Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear > such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own > preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo > is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay > Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I > loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan
nice to read a mail by you after a long time. > bad albums like Slumdog Millionare Hmm. could you elaborate upon it please. Of course, oscar or no oscar wouldn't change a hard core fan's rating of an album, still, could it be that you liked Indian type of settings in ARR music so you didn't like this non-indian album, or what all do you have dislike in this album. When everybody here become repetitive calling every ARR album great, it is an insight to hear views critically analyzing and elaborating downs of an album, that's why I am asking you. -- Rawat On 4/22/2010 12:26 PM India Time, _Triply R._ wrote: > I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's > see, we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai > Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have > Guru. No doubt, Guru is the worst of that lot. > Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other > Mani movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani > because of Rahman! > I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on > watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they > both turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can > tell a good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the > Mani-ARR combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining > again. > Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog > Millionare and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that > is the Delhi 6 soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the > next 10 years! And when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on > an already excellent cake! > But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is > medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! > > --- On *Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan //* > wrote: > > > From: Gayathri Chandrakasan > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo > Ek muft" will be in Raavan > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM > > Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really > sad to hear such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to > have his/her own preferences but to say that this is the weakest > album from their combo is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such > comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain > were all beautiful in their own way. And I loved Ek lo Ek Moft for > its naughty and unconventional presentation. > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo > Ek muft" in Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for > a Maniratnam film. All the other songs were of great class. Guru > is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo. Hope Raavan will be a > masterpiece and will be heard for ages. > >
[arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan
i understand if u don't like Slumdog as much as others but bad?c'mon man!...O Saya and Latika's theme are masterpieces, Jai Ho is so brilliantly structured!.am sure Raavan/Ravana's music will be good...but my expectations are a bit lower since Vinnai Thandi Varuvaya was SO good that i don't see Rahman topping it for some time i think soundtrack wise Yuva/Aayitha Ezhuthu is the weakest of the combo though it's of course an excellent soundtrack.Guru has "Barso Re" "Jaage Hain" and "Aye Hairathe"an album can't fail with such great songs! Mani has nothing to prove..sure Guru was just OK by his standards but he has made many so great movies for such a long period of time that he can be excused for delivering a relatively weaker one here and therealsobefore we say he's out of form...remember that he delivered his second best film (after Iruvar) with Kannathil Muthamittal in 2003...not too long ago... --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Triply R." wrote: > > I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's see, > we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, > Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have Guru. No doubt, Guru > is the worst of that lot. > Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other Mani > movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani because of > Rahman! > Â > I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on > watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they both > turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can tell a > good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the Mani-ARR > combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining again. > Â > Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog Millionare > and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that is the Delhi 6 > soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the next 10 years! And > when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on an already excellent > cake! > Â > But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is > medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! > > --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: > > > From: Gayathri Chandrakasan > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" > will be in Raavan > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM > > > Â > > > > > > > > Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear > such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own > preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo > is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay > Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I > loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. > > > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. > > >
Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan
I'd have to agree that Guru is the weakest ARR-Mani combo. I mean, let's see, we have Roja, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Iruvar, Dil Se, Alai Paayuthey, Kannathil Mutammittal, Aayutha Ezhuthu and then you have Guru. No doubt, Guru is the worst of that lot. Even as a movie, I felt Guru failed to have the same impact as other Mani movies. It's like one person on this group said - I tolerate Mani because of Rahman! I think with Raavan, Mani has a lot to prove. I am really not keen on watching Abhishiek and Ash in another movie together (even though they both turned in brilliant performances in Guru). Mani has to prove he can tell a good story with good presentation. He has to prove that the Mani-ARR combination is the best there is. He has to prove entertaining again. Rahman has nothing to prove. He may make bad albums like Slumdog Millionare and mediocre albums like Guru, but for the masterpiece that is the Delhi 6 soundtrack, Rahman has a free pass to do anything for the next 10 years! And when he makes albums like VtV, it's just the icing on an already excellent cake! But, again, this is my opinion. When I say Slumdog is bad and Guru is medicore and Delhi 6 is a masterpiece, it is my view. Feel free to disagree! --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan wrote: From: Gayathri Chandrakasan Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:39 AM Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. >
Re: [arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan
Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR combo? Oh dear! It's really sad to hear such remarks from ARR's fan. Yes, one is entitled to have his/her own preferences but to say that this is the weakest album from their combo is...well, it's kinda hard to digest such comments. Barso Re, Tere Bina, Ay Hairathe, Mayya Mayya, Jaage hain were all beautiful in their own way. And I loved Ek lo Ek Moft for its naughty and unconventional presentation. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. >
[arr] Re: Hope no songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" will be in Raavan
Are you kidding me? 'Ek Lo Ek Muft' and terrible??? It is one of the most musically rich song of ARR. Just love the instruments in that song, superb composition. However, I do agree with Baazi Laga. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sathya Sundaram wrote: > > > > Hope that there wont be songs like "baazi lagaa" and "Ek lo Ek muft" in > Raavan. These were 2 terribly worst songs of ARR for a Maniratnam film. All > the other songs were of great class. Guru is the weakest album of Mani-ARR > combo. Hope Raavan will be a masterpiece and will be heard for ages. >
