Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
ARR's T20 song was rocking..
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
Thanks, Pramod. And thanks for not getting offended! I like your in sync thoughts. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pramod pramod...@... wrote: @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
It takes 10 mins to compose a tune if you are truly inspired...given the fact that it took 6 months, there must have been something wrong somewhere... I read this statement somewhere in the media...Am not quite sure whether to agree to this or not...But I tend to believe the CWG song is more from the head than heart! Hence atleast for me it looks as though the spirit/emotion in tune is overtaken by musical arrangements and layering in instruments! But this is still nice as a standalone song...Probably I should remove my preconceived notion:) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Thanks, Pramod. And thanks for not getting offended! I like your in sync thoughts. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pramod pramodoux@ wrote: @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purevibz@ wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
On 9/1/2010 2:48 AM India Time, _vedavid manick_ wrote: People wanted something like waka waka. Then they should have bought waka waka copyrights and used that in CWG also. They should not have bothered our man. -- Rawat
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
I wonder what is happening to your analytical capabilities, AJ. You propose a theory that ARR worked hard and perhaps worked too hard, and then you base your remaining analysis on this, without knowing if it is correct on not. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean that ARR worked hard or too hard or hardly. All those critics of enthiran can also say the same, that ARR worked too hard on enthiran, without knowing whether he had or not. I wonder how could you not see that vandemataram is our national song, and people have a chord attached to it, so we were already willing to someone giving us our national song in the cacophony of other MDs who never bothered about nation. That helped in people liking it. Vandemataram was in two albums, including janganman, and there were several versions of it in them, so it was not just one composition by ARR. someone might have liked one, other one might have disliked the version the first one liked but might have liked the other one and so on, and thus album had one likeable version for each of all. Tamil theme song, gujarat theme song, 20-20 theme song, it is not the first theme song that ARR had done, so why whould he not grasp all those patriotic and other elements in this particular theme song when he got them all always in other theme songs in right proportions? You are working on theories that might not be your forte and you are be aware of facts. You should analyze the song musically as you have musical knowledge and past proven capability to do that. I personally find did ARR feel truly inspired? is very offensive and accusing. -- Rawat On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com mailto:purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
@ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
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Trying too hard at what, Gomzy? And yeah, maybe I was expecting a different flavor. Like I said, I'm warming up to it slowly. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pramod pramod...@... wrote: @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
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I am form the cairbbean, just observing the debate. I think all the statements bbeing made are not inspired by the music at all but the politics. The song has become a political issue. It is a brilliant song. People were expecting it to some how solve the problems that india found itself into with the hosting of the commonwealth games. At the smae time opposition supporters are critisiing it for policial purposes. People wanted something like waka waka. Waka waka has its identity, this song has its own. If it was comparable to waka waka, i am sure that people would have said that it was a waka waka rip off. At this stage, you cant please everyone. At the same time, a 5.5 c pricetag for one song is alot, regardless of if the song is a hit or not. From: Pramod pramod...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:43 PM Subject: Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired? @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
No need to take, offense buddy. I have found many of your posts in the past to be offensive too as you often take things to a personal level with other members including me. I was just speculating, not analyzing. You should know the difference. This is a place to post thoughts freely, right? Inspiration is a human state of mind and in degrees. AR is human and he will be inspired in degrees, no matter which project he works on. That's all. Nothing is happening to my analytical abilities, Rawat. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: I wonder what is happening to your analytical capabilities, AJ. You propose a theory that ARR worked hard and perhaps worked too hard, and then you base your remaining analysis on this, without knowing if it is correct on not. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean that ARR worked hard or too hard or hardly. All those critics of enthiran can also say the same, that ARR worked too hard on enthiran, without knowing whether he had or not. I wonder how could you not see that vandemataram is our national song, and people have a chord attached to it, so we were already willing to someone giving us our national song in the cacophony of other MDs who never bothered about nation. That helped in people liking it. Vandemataram was in two albums, including janganman, and there were several versions of it in them, so it was not just one composition by ARR. someone might have liked one, other one might have disliked the version the first one liked but might have liked the other one and so on, and thus album had one likeable version for each of all. Tamil theme song, gujarat theme song, 20-20 theme song, it is not the first theme song that ARR had done, so why whould he not grasp all those patriotic and other elements in this particular theme song when he got them all always in other theme songs in right proportions? You are working on theories that might not be your forte and you are be aware of facts. You should analyze the song musically as you have musical knowledge and past proven capability to do that. I personally find did ARR feel truly inspired? is very offensive and accusing. -- Rawat On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... mailto:purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here.
[arr]problems with the CWG song
guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun .
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song
i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4...@... wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun .
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun .
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
I'll completely buy this argument! I recall in one his interviews given for a Malayalam channel around 6-8 years back he'd said - if the song situation requires that you have to cry, then the song itself should make you cry, if it is a funny-humorous situation then the song should make you laugh... Guess those were the times when ARR and his team did 100% justice to each and every song in an album and at the worst perhaps 1 out of 5 songs would get a 3/5 rating, the rest would be 4 and above. However, lately dare I'd say 50% of the songs in a album are just making it to a 3 rating. I said this in an earlier post - my guess is that he's in a complete experimentation modesomething big will eventually come out of this experiment... I'd just give it some more time. After-all he too is a human being with so much strength, intelligence and capacityI'm not comparing here, but could/can Beethoven or Yanni or MJ or Hans pull off a south Indian folk song? No right? Maybe considering each one's musical brilliance, they could..but perhaps only after multiple attempts. And ARR is not going to be any different when it comes to newer genres ciao / Gopal PS: This too is the best part of this group, able to critique logically (almost every time :) ) --- On Tue, 31/8/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010, 7:15 AM I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun .
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
In general the theme is about working hard, never giving it up, victory and so on... These theme are so universal and is applicable for sports and all other aspects of life. ARR gives his 100\% for everything. And given the fact that CWG is an important milestone for the country, ARR sir does not need any other motivation. Please AJ, it is better we do not question the intention, motivation etc. and start enjoying or talking about the songs. It is better to always discuss the merits and demerits of the songs. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun .
