Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga
awesome share!!! thanx a million for sharing, Gomzy!!! Actually i had a doubt that its some loop kinda stuff which is available for composers!!! dats y i mentioned ..international sound!!! thanx for clearing the doubt... ~love music love life Neetika - Original Message - From: Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:04:02 +0530 (IST) Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga Neetika , more to this story. Courtesy itwofs. *Taal's Raga Dance* This is NOT an instance of lifting/ copying. Its more about sound sampling/ use of loops. These are commercially available pieces and are used by musicians worldwide. Sandeep Chowta did it for the orchestration of Pyar Tune Kya Kiya's 'Khambakt Ishq' (its a different issue that he lifted the tune, which was rather blatant!). Al Di Meola's 'Race with devil on Turkish highway' (1998) has a prelude piece which is EXACTLY similar to the opening piece in Taal's (1999) 'Raga Dance' music piece by A R Rahman! Al Di Meola had fellow guitarist Steve Vai collaborating with him in this number (this song was originally composed by Meola in 1978, for his album 'Elegant Gypsy' - it was then called 'Race with devil on Spanish highway'). Strangely enough, you'd not find the Taal piece in Meola's 70s version. I had found a mention about this in an online message board where the poster had alleged that Rahman has copied Meola! Just wanted to let this site's visitors know that this would not amount to copying, since the very purpose of creating samples and loops is for use by musicians. A review<http://www.epinions.com/musc_mu-280851>of Meola's album 'Infinite desire' says, " *Di Meola is nobody's technophobe, so in addition to delicately played acoustic guitar and piano, many tunes here feature sampling technology and looped-sounding rhythm tracks"*. Another review<http://www.epinions.com/content_57850629764>, on a different note, talking about Meola's music style says, "*Al is joined by fellow guitarist, Steve Vai, and the two of them race through the complex number in mind-boggling style and tempo. You can really tell these two cats like to wail at each other"* - Precisely what I felt when I heard this eclectic and disparate sounding track! On 5/9/08, Neetika raina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey Gomzy!!! > > i agree wid u..even wen i saw satya long back..the same question had bugged > my mind for long!! > den i heard the same music in so many places as background and the tag > music kinda > > i just wonder wats the mystery behind dis bit of that Track!!! > who is the actual composer..or if its some kinda standard international > sound or something!!! > > ~love music love life > Neetika > > - Original Message - > From: Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:04:34 +0530 (IST) > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga > > Thanks Avinash. Now another interesting snippet. A BGM in Satya ( cant > remember the scene) starts > exactly the way as Raaga Dace (Taal) does. Now wasnt Satya before Taal :)) > and then i got to know that > that part of raaga dance is a commercial piece available. I was kinda > disappointed though, that ARR didn actually compose that. > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM, : Avinash : <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Yes, the songs were composed by Vishal Bharadawaj for the film and > > BGMs done by Sandeep Chowta. They even released the whole BGM > > soundtrack separately after sometime.. (Most of BGM's are still > > copied and used in several TV programs, which I think is the highest > > honour for S.Chowta :) ) > > (And hey gomzy, if u used to watch ETV Kannada, u can see this > > haunting BGM on titles of "Crime Diary" program :) ) > > > > > > > >
Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga
Neetika , more to this story. Courtesy itwofs. *Taal's Raga Dance* This is NOT an instance of lifting/ copying. Its more about sound sampling/ use of loops. These are commercially available pieces and are used by musicians worldwide. Sandeep Chowta did it for the orchestration of Pyar Tune Kya Kiya's 'Khambakt Ishq' (its a different issue that he lifted the tune, which was rather blatant!). Al Di Meola's 'Race with devil on Turkish highway' (1998) has a prelude piece which is EXACTLY similar to the opening piece in Taal's (1999) 'Raga Dance' music piece by A R Rahman! Al Di Meola had fellow guitarist Steve Vai collaborating with him in this number (this song was originally composed by Meola in 1978, for his album 'Elegant Gypsy' - it was then called 'Race with devil on Spanish highway'). Strangely enough, you'd not find the Taal piece in Meola's 70s version. I had found a mention about this in an online message board where the poster had alleged that Rahman has copied Meola! Just wanted to let this site's visitors know that this would not amount to copying, since the very purpose of creating samples and loops is for use by musicians. A review<http://www.epinions.com/musc_mu-280851>of Meola's album 'Infinite desire' says, " *Di Meola is nobody's technophobe, so in addition to delicately played acoustic guitar and piano, many tunes here feature sampling technology and looped-sounding rhythm tracks"*. Another review<http://www.epinions.com/content_57850629764>, on a different note, talking about Meola's music style says, "*Al is joined by fellow guitarist, Steve Vai, and the two of them race through the complex number in mind-boggling style and tempo. You can really tell these two cats like to wail at each other"* - Precisely what I felt when I heard this eclectic and disparate sounding track! On 5/9/08, Neetika raina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey Gomzy!!! > > i agree wid u..even wen i saw satya long back..the same question had bugged > my mind for long!! > den i heard the same music in so many places as background and the tag > music kinda > > i just wonder wats the mystery behind dis bit of that Track!!! > who is the actual composer..or if its some kinda standard international > sound or something!!! > > ~love music love life > Neetika > > ----- Original Message - > From: Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:04:34 +0530 (IST) > Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga > > Thanks Avinash. Now another interesting snippet. A BGM in Satya ( cant > remember the scene) starts > exactly the way as Raaga Dace (Taal) does. Now wasnt Satya before Taal :)) > and then i got to know that > that part of raaga dance is a commercial piece available. I was kinda > disappointed though, that ARR didn actually compose that. > > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM, : Avinash : <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Yes, the songs were composed by Vishal Bharadawaj for the film and > > BGMs done by Sandeep Chowta. They even released the whole BGM > > soundtrack separately after sometime.. (Most of BGM's are still > > copied and used in several TV programs, which I think is the highest > > honour for S.Chowta :) ) > > (And hey gomzy, if u used to watch ETV Kannada, u can see this > > haunting BGM on titles of "Crime Diary" program :) ) > > > > > > > >
Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga
hey Gomzy!!! i agree wid u..even wen i saw satya long back..the same question had bugged my mind for long!! den i heard the same music in so many places as background and the tag music kinda i just wonder wats the mystery behind dis bit of that Track!!! who is the actual composer..or if its some kinda standard international sound or something!!! ~love music love life Neetika - Original Message - From: Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:04:34 +0530 (IST) Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga Thanks Avinash. Now another interesting snippet. A BGM in Satya ( cant remember the scene) starts exactly the way as Raaga Dace (Taal) does. Now wasnt Satya before Taal :)) and then i got to know that that part of raaga dance is a commercial piece available. I was kinda disappointed though, that ARR didn actually compose that. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM, : Avinash : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, the songs were composed by Vishal Bharadawaj for the film and > BGMs done by Sandeep Chowta. They even released the whole BGM > soundtrack separately after sometime.. (Most of BGM's are still > copied and used in several TV programs, which I think is the highest > honour for S.Chowta :) ) > (And hey gomzy, if u used to watch ETV Kannada, u can see this > haunting BGM on titles of "Crime Diary" program :) ) > > >
Re: [arr] Re: ARR & RGV combo a possibilty aga
Thanks Avinash. Now another interesting snippet. A BGM in Satya ( cant remember the scene) starts exactly the way as Raaga Dace (Taal) does. Now wasnt Satya before Taal :)) and then i got to know that that part of raaga dance is a commercial piece available. I was kinda disappointed though, that ARR didn actually compose that. On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM, : Avinash : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, the songs were composed by Vishal Bharadawaj for the film and > BGMs done by Sandeep Chowta. They even released the whole BGM > soundtrack separately after sometime.. (Most of BGM's are still > copied and used in several TV programs, which I think is the highest > honour for S.Chowta :) ) > (And hey gomzy, if u used to watch ETV Kannada, u can see this > haunting BGM on titles of "Crime Diary" program :) ) > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , > Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Satya BGM was by Sandeep Chowta? The music for the film was by > Vishal > > Bharadwaj > > > > On 5/1/08, : Avinash : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think RGV will take Rahman for his films again unless > the > > > Music remain core of the film. In all these years, RGV made slick > > > and thriller films which doesn't require situational songs. > > > > > > In other note, Satya remains my all time favourite Hindi film. I > see > > > it whenever I get chance especially for gripping performances, > slick > > > editing/direction and Sandeep Chowta's haunting BGM's. "Shiva" > > > & "Company" are other RGV films which come close to the > brilliance > > > of Satya. > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > Gomzy > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Oops almost forgot Sathya and Company. RGV has some good music > > > sense. Hoping > > > > to have the combo soon. > > > > > > > > On 5/1/08, Gomzy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There was Daud after Rangeela. Then Mast ofcourse has some > good > > > music. > > > > > > > > > > On 5/1/08, Shah Navas wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Mast' had good music by Sandeep Chowta. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Tapey3 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > When was the last time music was even important to an RGV > > > film? > > > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > > Rangeela. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > 40yahoogroups.com> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > Adi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As much as I might want them to pair up I also feel > that > > > the > > > > > > > possibility is > > > > > > > > remote. Primarily because RGV has lost the faith of the > > > producers by > > > > > > > > consistently churning out senseless movies and worse - > > > movies that > > > > > > > did not > > > > > > > > make commercial sense to the distributors and > producers (I > > > say that > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > there are a number of senseless movies that are > commercial > > > hits!). > > > > > > > And to > > > > > > > > work with ARR, RGV will need to come up with a script > that > > > can win > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > producers' trust back. And unless he has that financial > > > backing he > > > > > > > will not > > > > > > > > be able to work with ARR. And let me now get out of my > > > territory and > > > > > > > tread > > > > > > > > some dangerous parts by suggesting that ARR might not > want > > > to lower > > > > > > > his fees > > > > > > > > for RGV simply because of the risk that is involved in > an > > > RGV > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > (Proof: Daud). Atleast if the movie fails, the money > can > > > be used for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > conservatory which is what ARR is doing by signing up > > > endorsements > > > > > > > (ToI), > > > > > > > > tie-ups (Nokia) and doing live concerts within couple > of > > > days of > > > > > > > each other > > > > > > > > (Sharjah and ToI Chennai). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having said all this, I would be the first one to > queue up > > > outside a > > > > > > > > music store if the two paired up for a movie! :) I am a > > > gone case, > > > > > > > na?!! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM, $ Pavan Kumar $ > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a strong feeling that RGV would opt for rahman > > > very > > > > > > > > > soon..Hope it happens soon.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Tapey3 * wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think RGV will opt for ARR. I doubt he'd be > > > willing to > > > > > > > wait > > > > > > > > > so long for the music. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > Prasad Varma wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
