Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-11 Thread sreekrishnan_v 



Gops et.al.,

the finger pointing has to stop, but there is certainly a point. Ofcourse 
Launch and Release are 2 different things, but i think it makes no sense to 
keep the 2 dates this apart. If you know what i mean, you will agree that with 
people expecting so much out of this : If a song is Launched -[ it means You 
have it production ready] and Ideally, every single fan including you would 
like to listen to it as well. 

I am not siding to the argument that it was gautam Menon's fault as i think 
there are others who made the decision. But certainly, this was a bad decision 
and  one of the best discussions in the group. There is a lot for the industry 
to take from what we discussed here !

You lower the rate of a cd, Make it available as soon as  [following weekend if 
not the next day] it was launched. I think the Logistics are fairly simple 
there and can be coordinated well - and the whole point is to stop people from 
deviating/trying other means to get hold of a song we love to listen to, 
considering 2009 was a No Tamil Song Year from rahman ! 

A day away and songs are amazing ! Its time for the reviews :)

lets bring it on ! 

Sreekrishnan

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:
>
> I stand by what I said, 'launch' and 'release' mean different things
> 
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 22:17, vinod sagar  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I disagree Gopal.. follow these link (one among a lot)
> >
> > http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/52773.html
> >
> > http://www.businessofcinema.com/news.php?newsid=14960
> >
> > the audio of vtv was launched in london last month, december (20th Dec to
> > be precise)...
> >
> > we are in jan 2010 (pls do not go the extent of calculating days and argue
> > that its not been 30/31 days to confirm as one whole month) ... still no
> > sight of the audio cds !!!
> >
> > I will always be a die-hard rahmaniac but given the in-sensitiveness of
> > producers i'd rather expect rahman's albums be released on his own KM label,
> > than the commercial mindset of the producers, and i mean it !!
> >
> > When a movie is released WORLDWIDE, it means that all the theatres
> > worldwide start to show the movie in the theater from that day onwards,
> > isn't it  and they do this after making sure that the copies of the
> > movie are available in all the theatres. Latest example being AVATAR (Only
> > an example), it doesn't mean when the home dvd's are available for general
> > public !!!
> >
> > again, if the produers are not sure about the security of the songs, then
> > why go ahead and release them in an alien country than the native country ??
> > VTV is a tamil album and it must be available first in a tamil-dominated
> > area than in london !!!
> >
> > I have nothing against Rahman, he's a living legend, but against the
> > promoters, producers, music companies (or whatever u call them)
> >
> > Vinod
> >
> > --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, Gopal Srinivasan * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gopal Srinivasan 
> > Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:34 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> > not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> > digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> > dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> > simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> > label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> > India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> > Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> > pilfering of CDs.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  > yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=dvsagar_2...@...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London
> >> one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in
> >> india !!
> >>
> >> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
> >> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
> >> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
> >> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
> >> illegal sources.

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread Pradeepan 
Vinod , sorry, You are missing the whole point.

Audio Launch is NOT Audio Release.
Music launch happened in London. It is similar to unveiling the World Cup,
doesn't mean the final has been finished.

Please get the facts right, especially before refuting authentic sources.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:47 AM, vinod sagar wrote:

>
>
> I disagree Gopal.. follow these link (one among a lot)
>
> http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/52773.html
>
> http://www.businessofcinema.com/news.php?newsid=14960
>
> the audio of vtv was launched in london last month, december (20th Dec to
> be precise)...
>
> we are in jan 2010 (pls do not go the extent of calculating days and argue
> that its not been 30/31 days to confirm as one whole month) ... still no
> sight of the audio cds !!!
>
> I will always be a die-hard rahmaniac but given the in-sensitiveness of
> producers i'd rather expect rahman's albums be released on his own KM label,
> than the commercial mindset of the producers, and i mean it !!
>
> When a movie is released WORLDWIDE, it means that all the theatres
> worldwide start to show the movie in the theater from that day onwards,
> isn't it  and they do this after making sure that the copies of the
> movie are available in all the theatres. Latest example being AVATAR (Only
> an example), it doesn't mean when the home dvd's are available for general
> public !!!
>
> again, if the produers are not sure about the security of the songs, then
> why go ahead and release them in an alien country than the native country ??
> VTV is a tamil album and it must be available first in a tamil-dominated
> area than in london !!!
>
> I have nothing against Rahman, he's a living legend, but against the
> promoters, producers, music companies (or whatever u call them)
>
> Vinod
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, Gopal Srinivasan * wrote:
>
>
> From: Gopal Srinivasan 
> Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:34 PM
>
>
>
>
> Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> pilfering of CDs.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=dvsagar_2...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London
>> one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in
>> india !!
>>
>> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
>> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
>> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
>> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
>> illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
>> the audio available for all..
>>
>> Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
>> buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
>> retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
>> net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
>> through other listeners !!
>>
>>
>> Vinod
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim > hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=sameer_1...@hotmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sameer kasim > hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=sameer_1...@hotmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
>> To: "AR RAHMAN" > com<http://mc/compose?to=arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the
>> release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
>> From: vith...@gmail. com
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [arr]

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread ichord 
I see your point, Vinod and I understand your feelings of frustration, but as 
Gopal says, "release" and "launch" are 2 different things and rarely coincide 
together.  Yes, the time gap between the 2 is quite long this time around, 
making it harder to wait for such a landmark album, but there are some things 
that just won't change, I guess!  In the end, the album does get released, we 
relish it, and move on.  Come Tuesday, all your frustrations, anxiety, etc. 
will melt away as the magic of AR's notes drown you.  This album, I think, will 
be worth all the wait and frustration.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:
>
> I stand by what I said, 'launch' and 'release' mean different things
> 
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 22:17, vinod sagar  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I disagree Gopal.. follow these link (one among a lot)
> >
> > http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/52773.html
> >
> > http://www.businessofcinema.com/news.php?newsid=14960
> >
> > the audio of vtv was launched in london last month, december (20th Dec to
> > be precise)...
> >
> > we are in jan 2010 (pls do not go the extent of calculating days and argue
> > that its not been 30/31 days to confirm as one whole month) ... still no
> > sight of the audio cds !!!
> >
> > I will always be a die-hard rahmaniac but given the in-sensitiveness of
> > producers i'd rather expect rahman's albums be released on his own KM label,
> > than the commercial mindset of the producers, and i mean it !!
> >
> > When a movie is released WORLDWIDE, it means that all the theatres
> > worldwide start to show the movie in the theater from that day onwards,
> > isn't it  and they do this after making sure that the copies of the
> > movie are available in all the theatres. Latest example being AVATAR (Only
> > an example), it doesn't mean when the home dvd's are available for general
> > public !!!
> >
> > again, if the produers are not sure about the security of the songs, then
> > why go ahead and release them in an alien country than the native country ??
> > VTV is a tamil album and it must be available first in a tamil-dominated
> > area than in london !!!
> >
> > I have nothing against Rahman, he's a living legend, but against the
> > promoters, producers, music companies (or whatever u call them)
> >
> > Vinod
> >
> > --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, Gopal Srinivasan * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Gopal Srinivasan 
> > Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:34 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> > not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> > digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> > dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> > simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> > label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> > India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> > Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> > pilfering of CDs.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  > yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=dvsagar_2...@...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London
> >> one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in
> >> india !!
> >>
> >> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
> >> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
> >> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
> >> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
> >> illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
> >> the audio available for all..
> >>
> >> Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
> >> buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
> >> retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
> >> net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
> >> through other listeners !!
> >>
> >>
> >> Vinod

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread Mirza G. Munas 
The CD's are not available to buy UNTIL TODAY on that day there were no 
physical CD release... the songs were just launched means the usual talks and 
stuff.. for a change singers gave live performance I should have been 
there.. but was not lucky enough.


--- On Mon, 11/1/10, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:

From: Gopal Srinivasan 
Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 11 January, 2010, 0:57















 
 



  



  
  
  I stand by what I said, 'launch' and 'release' mean different things

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 22:17, vinod sagar  wrote:
















 



  



  
  
  I disagree Gopal.. follow these link (one among a lot)

http://www.indiagli tz.com/channels/ tamil/article/ 52773.html


http://www.business ofcinema. com/news. php?newsid= 14960

the audio of vtv was launched in london last month, december (20th Dec to be 
precise)...


we are in jan 2010 (pls do not go the extent of calculating days and argue that 
its not been 30/31 days to confirm as one whole month) ... still no sight of 
the audio cds !!!

I will always be a die-hard rahmaniac... . but given the in-sensitiveness of 
producers i'd rather expect rahman's albums be released on his own KM label, 
than the commercial mindset of the producers, and i mean it !! 


When a movie is released WORLDWIDE, it means that all the theatres
 worldwide start to show the movie in the theater from that day onwards, isn't 
it  and they do this after making sure that the copies of the movie are 
available in all the theatres. Latest example being AVATAR (Only an example), 
it doesn't mean when the home dvd's are available for general public !!!


again, if the produers are not sure about the security of the songs, then why 
go ahead and release them in an alien country than the native country ?? VTV is 
a tamil album and it must be available first in a tamil-dominated area than in 
london !!!


I have nothing against Rahman, he's a living legend, but against the promoters, 
producers, music companies (or whatever u call them)

Vinod

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:


From: Gopal Srinivasan 
Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:34 PM







 




  
  
  Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music 
was not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any 
digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be 
dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a 
simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the 
label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of 
India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of Europe 
don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent pilfering 
of CDs.



On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  wrote:

















 



  



  
  
  
I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London one 
month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in india !!


I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what it 
means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners 
without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or even 
forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from illegal 
sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making the audio 
available for all.. 



Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to buy 
only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples retreat 
and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the net... if this 
is the case with me,
 then i can imagine what would be going through other listeners !!


Vinod

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim  wrote:



From: sameer kasim 
Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS


To: "AR RAHMAN" 
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM







 




  
  
  



 really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the 
release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...

 

 

 


To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
From: vith...@gmail. com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net

  




People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be punished. 
God will punish them, 
 
Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
 
Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in vain. 
! :(


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v  wrote:


  



Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead report 
these to some one like

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread Gopal Srinivasan 
I stand by what I said, 'launch' and 'release' mean different things

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 22:17, vinod sagar  wrote:

>
>
> I disagree Gopal.. follow these link (one among a lot)
>
> http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/52773.html
>
> http://www.businessofcinema.com/news.php?newsid=14960
>
> the audio of vtv was launched in london last month, december (20th Dec to
> be precise)...
>
> we are in jan 2010 (pls do not go the extent of calculating days and argue
> that its not been 30/31 days to confirm as one whole month) ... still no
> sight of the audio cds !!!
>
> I will always be a die-hard rahmaniac but given the in-sensitiveness of
> producers i'd rather expect rahman's albums be released on his own KM label,
> than the commercial mindset of the producers, and i mean it !!
>
> When a movie is released WORLDWIDE, it means that all the theatres
> worldwide start to show the movie in the theater from that day onwards,
> isn't it  and they do this after making sure that the copies of the
> movie are available in all the theatres. Latest example being AVATAR (Only
> an example), it doesn't mean when the home dvd's are available for general
> public !!!
>
> again, if the produers are not sure about the security of the songs, then
> why go ahead and release them in an alien country than the native country ??
> VTV is a tamil album and it must be available first in a tamil-dominated
> area than in london !!!
>
> I have nothing against Rahman, he's a living legend, but against the
> promoters, producers, music companies (or whatever u call them)
>
> Vinod
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, Gopal Srinivasan * wrote:
>
>
> From: Gopal Srinivasan 
> Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:34 PM
>
>
>
> Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> pilfering of CDs.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=dvsagar_2...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London
>> one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in
>> india !!
>>
>> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
>> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
>> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
>> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
>> illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
>> the audio available for all..
>>
>> Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
>> buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
>> retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
>> net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
>> through other listeners !!
>>
>>
>> Vinod
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim > hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=sameer_1...@hotmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sameer kasim > hotmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=sameer_1...@hotmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
>> To: "AR RAHMAN" > com<http://mc/compose?to=arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com>
>> >
>> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the
>> release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
>> From: vith...@gmail. com
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net
>>
>>
>>  People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be
>> punished. God will punish them,
>>
>> Lets be loyal to ARR and

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread vinod sagar 
I disagree Gopal.. follow these link (one among a lot)

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/52773.html

http://www.businessofcinema.com/news.php?newsid=14960

the audio of vtv was launched in london last month, december (20th Dec to be 
precise)...

we are in jan 2010 (pls do not go the extent of calculating days and argue that 
its not been 30/31 days to confirm as one whole month) ... still no sight of 
the audio cds !!!

I will always be a die-hard rahmaniac but given the in-sensitiveness of 
producers i'd rather expect rahman's albums be released on his own KM label, 
than the commercial mindset of the producers, and i mean it !! 

When a movie is released WORLDWIDE, it means that all the theatres worldwide 
start to show the movie in the theater from that day onwards, isn't it  and 
they do this after making sure that the copies of the movie are available in 
all the theatres. Latest example being AVATAR (Only an example), it doesn't 
mean when the home dvd's are available for general public !!!

again, if the produers are not sure about the security of the songs, then why 
go ahead and release them in an alien country than the native country ?? VTV is 
a tamil album and it must be available first in a tamil-dominated area than in 
london !!!

I have nothing against Rahman, he's a living legend, but against the promoters, 
producers, music companies (or whatever u call them)

Vinod

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:

From: Gopal Srinivasan 
Subject: Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:34 PM







 



  



  
  
  Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music 
was not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any 
digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be 
dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a 
simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the 
label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of 
India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of Europe 
don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent pilfering 
of CDs.


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  wrote:
















 



  



  
  
  I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London 
one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in 
india !!


I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what it 
means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners 
without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or even 
forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from illegal 
sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making the audio 
available for all.. 


Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to buy 
only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples retreat 
and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the net... if this 
is the case with me,
 then i can imagine what would be going through other listeners !!


Vinod

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim  wrote:


From: sameer kasim 
Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS

To: "AR RAHMAN" 
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM







 




  
  
  



 really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the 
release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...

 

 

 


To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
From: vith...@gmail. com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net

  




People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be punished. 
God will punish them, 
 
Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
 
Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in vain. 
! :(


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v  wrote:


  



Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead report 
these to some one like Gops privately so that we can have him take it with 
Sony. 

i just did the same and hoping to see couple of sources taken down. 


Additionally, i think we are one of the very powerful and active community 
around and am very sure if we follow this practice, it will be of great help 
for the people in the music industry especially the musicians. 


Personally i'd prefer to pin this piracy down before we land on to Endhiran and 
Raavan - if not immediately ! 

Thanks to all the fans 


--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ChanderR  wrote:
>
> That's correct!

> 
> It's a pity that it's out even before it's official release.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/01/2010,

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread Vasanth TT 
Its really funny to read the Privacy Statement from the site where they
uploaded VTV tracks.

"This site is owned and operated by xyz.com we want to make your experience
online satisfying and safe.The Audio files links on this page are only for
evaluation use. If you decide to download any music file or any file for
evaluation, you should delete them after 24 hours. If you don't, you will
have to accept any consequences.All songs links provided in this page are
for trial use only. If you like the song, please go buy the CD."

Regards,
Vasanth TT
South Africa

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Gopal Srinivasan wrote:

>
>
> Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> pilfering of CDs.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London
>> one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in
>> india !!
>>
>> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
>> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
>> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
>> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
>> illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
>> the audio available for all..
>>
>> Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
>> buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
>> retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
>> net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
>> through other listeners !!
>>
>>
>> Vinod
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sameer kasim 
>> Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
>> To: "AR RAHMAN" 
>> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the
>> release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
>> From: vith...@gmail. com
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net
>>
>>
>>  People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be
>> punished. God will punish them,
>>
>> Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
>>
>> Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in
>> vain. ! :(
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v > v...@yahoo.co. in > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead
>> report these to some one like Gops privately so that we can have him take it
>> with Sony.
>>
>> i just did the same and hoping to see couple of sources taken down.
>>
>> Additionally, i think we are one of the very powerful and active community
>> around and am very sure if we follow this practice, it will be of great help
>> for the people in the music industry especially the musicians.
>>
>> Personally i'd prefer to pin this piracy down before we land on to
>> Endhiran and Raavan - if not immediately !
>>
>> Thanks to all the fans
>>
>>
>> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. 
>> com,
>> ChanderR  wrote:
>> >
>> > That's correct!
>> >
>> > It's a pity that it's out even before it's official release.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/01/2010, at 7:40 AM, "pradeepviswanathan " > > r...@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > VTV songs are out on the net completely!! !
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> Vithur
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up 
>> now.
>>
>>
>>
>  
>

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread sriramvr_in 
it is uploaded from Netherlands if the user profile is correct! time zones are 
now more than important factor.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:
>
> Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> pilfering of CDs.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London one
> > month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in india
> > !!
> >
> > I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
> > it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
> > without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
> > even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
> > illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
> > the audio available for all..
> >
> > Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
> > buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
> > retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
> > net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
> > through other listeners !!
> >
> >
> > Vinod
> >
> > --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: sameer kasim 
> > Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
> > To: "AR RAHMAN" 
> > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the
> > release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
> > From: vith...@gmail. com
> > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
> > Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net
> >
> >
> >  People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be
> > punished. God will punish them,
> >
> > Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
> >
> > Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in
> > vain. ! :(
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v  > v...@yahoo.co. in > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead
> > report these to some one like Gops privately so that we can have him take it
> > with Sony.
> >
> > i just did the same and hoping to see couple of sources taken down.
> >
> > Additionally, i think we are one of the very powerful and active community
> > around and am very sure if we follow this practice, it will be of great help
> > for the people in the music industry especially the musicians.
> >
> > Personally i'd prefer to pin this piracy down before we land on to Endhiran
> > and Raavan - if not immediately !
> >
> > Thanks to all the fans
> >
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. 
> > com,
> > ChanderR  wrote:
> > >
> > > That's correct!
> > >
> > > It's a pity that it's out even before it's official release.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/01/2010, at 7:40 AM, "pradeepviswanathan "  > > r...@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > VTV songs are out on the net completely!! !
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards,
> > Vithur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up 
> > now.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread Thulasi Ram 
this is completely disheartening and i've come across this leak happening
before the official release, right from pray for me brother. i dont know
what is the remedy and when is the remedy...

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Gopal Srinivasan wrote:

>
>
> Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
> not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
> digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
> dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
> simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
> label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
> India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
> Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
> pilfering of CDs.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London
>> one month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in
>> india !!
>>
>> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
>> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
>> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
>> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
>> illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
>> the audio available for all..
>>
>> Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
>> buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
>> retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
>> net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
>> through other listeners !!
>>
>>
>> Vinod
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sameer kasim 
>> Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
>> To: "AR RAHMAN" 
>> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the
>> release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
>> From: vith...@gmail. com
>> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
>> Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net
>>
>>
>>  People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be
>> punished. God will punish them,
>>
>> Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
>>
>> Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in
>> vain. ! :(
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v > v...@yahoo.co. in > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead
>> report these to some one like Gops privately so that we can have him take it
>> with Sony.
>>
>> i just did the same and hoping to see couple of sources taken down.
>>
>> Additionally, i think we are one of the very powerful and active community
>> around and am very sure if we follow this practice, it will be of great help
>> for the people in the music industry especially the musicians.
>>
>> Personally i'd prefer to pin this piracy down before we land on to
>> Endhiran and Raavan - if not immediately !
>>
>> Thanks to all the fans
>>
>>
>> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. 
>> com,
>> ChanderR  wrote:
>> >
>> > That's correct!
>> >
>> > It's a pity that it's out even before it's official release.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/01/2010, at 7:40 AM, "pradeepviswanathan " > > r...@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > VTV songs are out on the net completely!! !
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> Vithur
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up 
>> now.
>>
>>
>>
>  
>

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread Gopal Srinivasan 
Please get your facts right before launching into a diatribe. The music was
not released in London a month early. Nor have they been released on any
digital distribution medium like Amazon or iTunes. The CDs have to be
dispatched ahead of the release date (the 12th) in order to ensure a
simultaneous release everywhere (without which too, fans would bay for the
label's blood). Unfortunately, the distribution and retail trade in parts of
India, South and South East Asia as well as Tamil-dominated pockets of
Europe don't have the most secure systems and processes in place to prevent
pilfering of CDs.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:24, vinod sagar  wrote:

>
>
> I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London one
> month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in india
> !!
>
> I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what
> it means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners
> without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or
> even forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from
> illegal sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making
> the audio available for all..
>
> Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to
> buy only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples
> retreat and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the
> net... if this is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going
> through other listeners !!
>
>
> Vinod
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim * wrote:
>
>
> From: sameer kasim 
> Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
> To: "AR RAHMAN" 
> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
>
>
>
>
>  really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the
> release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...
>
>
>
> --
> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
> From: vith...@gmail. com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
> Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net
>
>
>  People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be
> punished. God will punish them,
>
> Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
>
> Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in
> vain. ! :(
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v  v...@yahoo.co. in > wrote:
>
>
>
> Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead
> report these to some one like Gops privately so that we can have him take it
> with Sony.
>
> i just did the same and hoping to see couple of sources taken down.
>
> Additionally, i think we are one of the very powerful and active community
> around and am very sure if we follow this practice, it will be of great help
> for the people in the music industry especially the musicians.
>
> Personally i'd prefer to pin this piracy down before we land on to Endhiran
> and Raavan - if not immediately !
>
> Thanks to all the fans
>
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. 
> com,
> ChanderR  wrote:
> >
> > That's correct!
> >
> > It's a pity that it's out even before it's official release.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/01/2010, at 7:40 AM, "pradeepviswanathan "  > r...@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > VTV songs are out on the net completely!! !
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up 
> now.
>
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] WHERE DID THEY GET THESE SONGS

2010-01-10 Thread vinod sagar 
I think that this is what happens when they release the audio in London one 
month early, but do not care to take into account the huge fan base in india !!

I've always wondered the rationale behind releasing the audio... and what it 
means.. when the audio is released it MUST be available to the listeners 
without any delay... any delay may cause the listeners to lose interest or even 
forget abt it or (as is in this case) download/share the audio from illegal 
sources... as far as i go its the producers to blame for not making the audio 
available for all.. 

Take me for instance, being a die hard rahmaniac, its been my principle to buy 
only original cds of all Rahman's albums... but the wait for couples retreat 
and vtv has been such that I am too tempted to download from the net... if this 
is the case with me, then i can imagine what would be going through other 
listeners !!


Vinod

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, sameer kasim  wrote:

From: sameer kasim 
Subject: [arr] WHERE DID THEY THESE SONGS
To: "AR RAHMAN" 
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:24 PM







 



  



  
  
  



 really very bad scenario this is, to upload all song even before the 
release... but more dangerouse thing is... where did they get this songs...

 

 

 


To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
From: vith...@gmail. com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:42:59 +0530
Subject: Re: [arr] VTV Songs on the Net

  




People who are doing this , by illegally circulating this should be punished. 
God will punish them, 
 
Lets be loyal to ARR and to all musicians, ..
 
Really feel bad about this... Sleepless Nights and Hard work of ARR go in vain. 
! :(


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM, sreekrishnan_ v  wrote:


  



Please do not report/pass on the links to any one outside and instead report 
these to some one like Gops privately so that we can have him take it with 
Sony. 

i just did the same and hoping to see couple of sources taken down. 

Additionally, i think we are one of the very powerful and active community 
around and am very sure if we follow this practice, it will be of great help 
for the people in the music industry especially the musicians. 

Personally i'd prefer to pin this piracy down before we land on to Endhiran and 
Raavan - if not immediately ! 

Thanks to all the fans 


--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ChanderR  wrote:
>
> That's correct!
> 
> It's a pity that it's out even before it's official release.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/01/2010, at 7:40 AM, "pradeepviswanathan "  r...@...> wrote:
> 

> Guys,
> 
> VTV songs are out on the net completely!! !
>









-- 
regards,
Vithur







  
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