Re: how to migrate the changes from a pre-overlay ars server(7.1) into overlay server(7.6.04)

2012-08-21 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

If you can determine which objects to migrate, and which are CUSTOM and
OVERLAY respectively, you can use RRR|DefBPCU to convert the exported
DEF:s to the correct overlay-setting before the import.

https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrDefBPCU

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 I created a copy of our prod env which in on ars 7.1 custom apps  and
 upgraded it to 7.6.04 p002 a few months ago.
 During the upgrade process I used bpcu utility to convert the  OOTB core
 forms like email system, user, group  etc.. to overlays where we
 did customization.
 The 7.6.04 server is running in overlay mode and is currently going
 through
 testing.
 Now in the past few weeks there have been some code changes made in our
 prod ars 7.1 server.
 How can I import those changes into 7.6.04 server?
 Do I need to go through whole upgrade process again?

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Re: How to change Button text in SRM?

2012-08-21 Thread Rob van Eerd
Hi,

Thanks.
I already supposed so :-(
I'll have our Service Delivery Manager go back to the customer, as he was the 
one who promised this :-(

Regards,
Rob.

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Re: How to change Button text in SRM?

2012-08-21 Thread Rob van Eerd
Hi,

Thanks for this detailed response.
Although it seems possible, I doubt whether management will let me do this.
I'll try to have our Dev-environment copied to tamper with it.

Regards,
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Re: OT: Client Sensitivity

2012-08-21 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
Sorry, the correct name of the field is Job Title.

Jose Manuel Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/




On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Pargeter, Christie :CO IS cparg...@lhs.org
 wrote:

 **

 What tab is the Profession field on or was that a customized field you put
 into the system?

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
 *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 11:43 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Client Sensitivity

 ** **

 ** One of my customers is a healthcare organization (big one, with +6000
 employees).

 ** **

 We have done it like the next:

 ** **

  - We use the profession field at CTM:People to mark it as doctor, nurse,
 administrative stuff, maganer, etc.

  - We customized HPD help Desk to show it at the main screen, so technical
 staff known if it is a doctor.

  - Client Sensitivity means that the employee is part of a critic
 healthcare chain (like a *triage* nurse at emergency, surgery doctor,
 ...). 

  - VIP is used to mark senior management.

  - Impact is used to mark the spread of the incident (one person, few
 people, full unit, whole hospital) - VIP moves from one person to few
 people.

  - Urgency is used to mark the effect on the work being the max a risk to
 a patient. - Sensitivity increases one level.

 ** **

 It works correctly. Just to share...

 ** **

 ** **


 Jose Manuel Huerta

 http://theremedyforit.com/ 

 ** **



 

 On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 it for our Doctors where VIP is senior mgmt and their admins.  It was
 setup for our Help Desk personnel to be more aware that the issue could
 have an impact on a patient in a hospital and they might change the urgency
 based on that up a level.

 ** **

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Re: Localizing applications

2012-08-21 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
Thanks, Seems I'm going to modify all ITSM localized forms :)



Jose Manuel Huerta
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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 If you set en_US as locale for the English views, and clear out the
 locale for the Spanish views, you will get the behaviour you seek.

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  Hi listers,
 
  Don't know if it is possible...
 
  Here in Majorca, we speak two languages, Spanish and Catalan. For politic
  reasons, some applications need to be localized to both languages. I
 would
  like to start a localization for Catalan, but only for a few forms.
 
  What I want is: If a user has the language option set to Catalan, and
  there
  is no Catalan version, to use the Spanish version instead of the English
  one. Is that possible?
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: Localizing applications

2012-08-21 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

The easiest way, not considering the use of overlays, might be to export
the view-definitions of all the blank views and ES views to an
view-def-XML-file. Then do a find/replace:
From:vui-locale : 
To:  vui-locale : en_US
From:vui-locale : ES
To:  vui-locale : 
And import it in place.

(Just make sure that you find an editor that can do the replace and match
the end-of-line, as you might otherwise get vui-locale : ES replaced
by vui-locale : En_USES...)

I have a translation memory tool called RRR|Translator that can help you
do the translation to Catalan. It has not been much interest in it though.
Maybe because it is a non-free tool, or maybe because people does not
understand is not a free tool, but maybe because nobody understands the
benefit ;-) Maybe we can agree on something if you want to try it out?
Here you have the documentation for RRR|Translator:
https://www.rrr.se/c/doc/RRR_Translator.pdf

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 Thanks, Seems I'm going to modify all ITSM localized forms :)



 Jose Manuel Huerta
 http://theremedyforit.com/




 On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 If you set en_US as locale for the English views, and clear out the
 locale for the Spanish views, you will get the behaviour you seek.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)

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 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
 http://rrr.se.

  Hi listers,
 
  Don't know if it is possible...
 
  Here in Majorca, we speak two languages, Spanish and Catalan. For
 politic
  reasons, some applications need to be localized to both languages. I
 would
  like to start a localization for Catalan, but only for a few forms.
 
  What I want is: If a user has the language option set to Catalan, and
  there
  is no Catalan version, to use the Spanish version instead of the
 English
  one. Is that possible?
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose Manuel Huerta
  http://theremedyforit.com/
 
 
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7.6.04 basic FTS questions

2012-08-21 Thread Rick

Hi,

In the 7.6.04 configuration guide, I found this statement:  Full text 
search (FTS) is typically much faster than using the native database 
searching functionality when searching in long text fields. It is also 
the only method available in AR System for searching text within 
attached documents.


Has anyone been able to successfully use FTS to search for text within 
attachments?


Thanks,

Rick

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Linking Maintenance Contracts to CIs - automation options?

2012-08-21 Thread Logan, Kelly
Hello Listers,

I am setting up a new ITSM 7.6.4 server and we are ready to configure our 
assets. I have used the Integrator to import several thousand server (Computer 
System) CIs, and I have used the Data Management tool to import the Maintenance 
contracts for those CIs.

When I tried to use the Transactional-Contract.xls sheet to import the 
relationship between the server CIs and their maintenance contracts, however, 
it said that the relationship Related to (which is what is set when you do 
the action manually), was in error, specifically: 1023- Invalid  Relationship 
Type selected.

Now the sheet seems to indicate that CI-Contract relationships are allowed as 
it gives directions on how to identify the CI and the Contract. Has anyone else 
tried this?

(Directions from the spreadsheet)

This required field must be completed with one of the followings:

1) For Parent Relationship Type of Contract, enter the Instance ID (from the 
target form) or the Contract Identifier (from the CTR:LoadContractBase form) of 
the Parent record to which the association is being made.

2) For Parent Relationship Type of Configuration Item, enter the Reconciliation 
ID.



This required field must be completed with one of the followings:

1) For Child Relationship Type of Contract, enter the Instance ID (from the 
target form) or the Contract Identifier (from the CTR:LoadContractBase form) of 
the child record.

2) For Child Relationship Type of License Certificate, enter the Instance ID 
(from the target form) or ID (from the AST:LoadLicenseCertificates form) of the 
child record.



This required field must be completed with one of the following numbers or 
words, according to the significance indicated in the following list:

32000 or Attached to

35000 or Related to
77000 or Terms and Conditions of
(End)

Alternately, is there some other standard procedure we are supposed to follow 
to set up several thousand CIs' contract relationships? I see that the dialog 
pushes to CTR:Contract Relationship, and AST:CMDB Associations (ActiveLink: 
AST:ASA:RelateFromContract_200_PAAA_PCRC), but the filters on these forms are 
set to only run on Submit and not Merge, so I can't import to them directly. I 
would prefer not to create a new form and workflow just to perform what should 
be a standard configuration action, so please if anyone has done this and knows 
of an OOB method, let me know.

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Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread Ray Palla
Ladies and Gentlemen;

I'm looking for a field or place to grab the Incident Business Time Duration 
for an ITMS 7.6.04 Incient Module ticket, excluding the time(s) that the ticket 
is in Pending 'Status'.

I've found in the Incident Assignment Log form, the field 'Business Hours 
Duration (Sec)'.  If I do a sum on all assignments related to the Incident 
Number, I can get the total seconds that the ticket was open.  I need to be 
able to subtract the amount of time that the ticket was in Pending, like the 
SLM module would use to determine if an SLA was met or missed.  I've spent 
considerable cycles looking for a place to grab the data from a field in SLM, 
but can't seem to find it.

Anyone, have a suggestion for a place to look, or a formula to use to get the 
desired result into a report???

Thanks;
R

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Re: how to migrate the changes from a pre-overlay ars server(7.1) into overlay server(7.6.04)

2012-08-21 Thread patchsk
Hi Misi,
I was going through documentation about your tool.
Seems like the only option I have is to delete the objects and reimport 
them.
And then re import the data using rrrchive or delta data migration tool 
in migrator.
On a side note what is the benefit of using your tool:rrrDefBPCU? 
Just checking if I am missing anything. 
Seems like all the features are included in devstudio plugin as well.

1. Using the devstudio I was able to import new workflow from 7.1 to 7.6.04.
It is importing the new objects into base mode. Then I can convert them 
into custom.
It is giving the 8861 error for importing with overwrite on existing 
objects  which is same with your tool as well.
2. DevStudio plugin also can to convert custom to base and  vice-versa.

On Monday, August 20, 2012 11:14:10 PM UTC-7, Misi Mladoniczky wrote:

 Hi, 

 If you can determine which objects to migrate, and which are CUSTOM and 
 OVERLAY respectively, you can use RRR|DefBPCU to convert the exported 
 DEF:s to the correct overlay-setting before the import. 

 https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrDefBPCU 

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) 

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11): 
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 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. 

  I created a copy of our prod env which in on ars 7.1 custom apps  and 
  upgraded it to 7.6.04 p002 a few months ago. 
  During the upgrade process I used bpcu utility to convert the  OOTB core 
  forms like email system, user, group  etc.. to overlays where we 
  did customization. 
  The 7.6.04 server is running in overlay mode and is currently going 
  through 
  testing. 
  Now in the past few weeks there have been some code changes made in our 
  prod ars 7.1 server. 
  How can I import those changes into 7.6.04 server? 
  Do I need to go through whole upgrade process again? 
  
  
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Re: how to migrate the changes from a pre-overlay ars server(7.1) into overlay server(7.6.04)

2012-08-21 Thread patchsk
Yes this is another option but trying to see if we can reduce the 
duplication effort.

On Monday, August 20, 2012 4:54:27 PM UTC-7, Pargeter, Christie :CO IS 
wrote:

 ** 

 I might look at how difficult it would be to manually re-create these 
 changes.  You have the 7.1 version and just need to almost just rekey them.

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 ars...@arslist.org javascript:] *On Behalf Of *patchsk
 *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2012 3:40 PM
 *To:* ars...@arslist.org javascript:
 *Subject:* how to migrate the changes from a pre-overlay ars server(7.1) 
 into overlay server(7.6.04)

  

 ** 

 I created a copy of our prod env which in on ars 7.1 custom apps  and 
 upgraded it to 7.6.04 p002 a few months ago.

 During the upgrade process I used bpcu utility to convert the  OOTB core 
 forms like email system, user, group  etc.. to overlays where we 
 did customization.

 The 7.6.04 server is running in overlay mode and is currently going 
 through testing.

 Now in the past few weeks there have been some code changes made in our 
 prod ars 7.1 server.

 How can I import those changes into 7.6.04 server?

 Do I need to go through whole upgrade process again?

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Re: Localizing applications

2012-08-21 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
WOOOAAAHH!!!

Never though of doing massive changes through text edition!

Currently I'm analyzing the viability of the project. Seems affordable. If
finally accepted, I will consider using RRR|Translator.



Jose Manuel Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/




On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 ke sure that you find an editor that can do the replace and match
 the end-of-line, as you m


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MACRO question

2012-08-21 Thread Mayfield, Andy L.
I have an old active link that updates escalations and uses a MACRO as one of 
the actions.

One of the steps in the MACRO is to set the Assigned Technician field on 
Escalation to the Assigned Technician listed on the parent ticket.
That seems work fine until the ticket is assigned to a group and the technician 
field is the blank.
I would have thought it would set the field on the escalation to blank also, 
but it leaves the previous value there.
Another step in the MACRO changes the assigned group and it always works.

I'm stumped..

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Alabama Power Company
Protection  Control Technician Sr.
Linc # 10*19140
Cell # 205-288-9140
Office # 205-257-1556


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Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread patchsk
Did you check the incident audit log? You can calculate the amount of time 
the ticket is in pending status from there.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:04:57 AM UTC-7, Ray Palla wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen; 

 I'm looking for a field or place to grab the Incident Business Time 
 Duration for an ITMS 7.6.04 Incient Module ticket, excluding the time(s) 
 that the ticket is in Pending 'Status'. 

 I've found in the Incident Assignment Log form, the field 'Business Hours 
 Duration (Sec)'.  If I do a sum on all assignments related to the Incident 
 Number, I can get the total seconds that the ticket was open.  I need to be 
 able to subtract the amount of time that the ticket was in Pending, like 
 the SLM module would use to determine if an SLA was met or missed.  I've 
 spent considerable cycles looking for a place to grab the data from a field 
 in SLM, but can't seem to find it. 

 Anyone, have a suggestion for a place to look, or a formula to use to get 
 the desired result into a report??? 

 Thanks; 
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Re: how to migrate the changes from a pre-overlay ars server(7.1) into overlay server(7.6.04)

2012-08-21 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

RRR|Chive does not apply here. RRR|Chive only handles data.

We are talking about definitions and def-files.

A def-file exported from 7.1 will always be in BASE mode.

What RRR|DedBPCU can do, is to convert it to OVERLAY.

When you later import the converted def, it will replace any overlay on
your target 7.6.04 server, or add an overlay if it does not already exist.

But if it is a new object altogether, you need to import it as CUSTOM.
RRR|DefBPCU can handle that as well, but you have to export two defs from
your 7.1 server, one with OVERLAY-objects and one with CUSTOM-objects.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

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Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Hi Misi,
 I was going through documentation about your tool.
 Seems like the only option I have is to delete the objects and reimport
 them.
 And then re import the data using rrrchive or delta data migration tool
 in migrator.
 On a side note what is the benefit of using your tool:rrrDefBPCU?
 Just checking if I am missing anything.
 Seems like all the features are included in devstudio plugin as well.

 1. Using the devstudio I was able to import new workflow from 7.1 to
 7.6.04.
 It is importing the new objects into base mode. Then I can convert
 them
 into custom.
 It is giving the 8861 error for importing with overwrite on existing
 objects  which is same with your tool as well.
 2. DevStudio plugin also can to convert custom to base and  vice-versa.

 On Monday, August 20, 2012 11:14:10 PM UTC-7, Misi Mladoniczky wrote:

 Hi,

 If you can determine which objects to migrate, and which are CUSTOM and
 OVERLAY respectively, you can use RRR|DefBPCU to convert the exported
 DEF:s to the correct overlay-setting before the import.

 https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrDefBPCU

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
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 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
 http://rrr.se.

  I created a copy of our prod env which in on ars 7.1 custom apps  and
  upgraded it to 7.6.04 p002 a few months ago.
  During the upgrade process I used bpcu utility to convert the  OOTB
 core
  forms like email system, user, group  etc.. to overlays where we
  did customization.
  The 7.6.04 server is running in overlay mode and is currently going
  through
  testing.
  Now in the past few weeks there have been some code changes made in
 our
  prod ars 7.1 server.
  How can I import those changes into 7.6.04 server?
  Do I need to go through whole upgrade process again?
 
 
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Re: how to migrate the changes from a pre-overlay ars server(7.1) into overlay server(7.6.04)

2012-08-21 Thread patchsk
I need to work on all CUSTOM objects only.
Migrating objects  from 7.1 to 7.6.04p003 directly with devstudio is 
working  only for the new objects i.e., if the objects are not yet present 
in 7.6.04.
I mentioned about RRR|Chive incase if I need to delete the forms in 7.6.04 
before reimporting.  
If the object already present in 7.6.04 either as CUSTOM or BASE then the 
objects in 7.1 definition needs to converted to same type before we can 
reimport it into 7.6.04.
I was able to convert the objects in 7.1 def file to CUSTOM using your tool 
and import inplace the new def file into 7.6.04 using devstudio. 
Thanks you tool is indeed very helpful. 


On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:44:48 AM UTC-7, Misi Mladoniczky wrote:

 Hi, 

 RRR|Chive does not apply here. RRR|Chive only handles data. 

 We are talking about definitions and def-files. 

 A def-file exported from 7.1 will always be in BASE mode. 

 What RRR|DedBPCU can do, is to convert it to OVERLAY. 

 When you later import the converted def, it will replace any overlay on 
 your target 7.6.04 server, or add an overlay if it does not already exist. 

 But if it is a new object altogether, you need to import it as CUSTOM. 
 RRR|DefBPCU can handle that as well, but you have to export two defs from 
 your 7.1 server, one with OVERLAY-objects and one with CUSTOM-objects. 

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) 

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11): 
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. 
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. 
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. 

  Hi Misi, 
  I was going through documentation about your tool. 
  Seems like the only option I have is to delete the objects and reimport 
  them. 
  And then re import the data using rrrchive or delta data migration tool 
  in migrator. 
  On a side note what is the benefit of using your tool:rrrDefBPCU? 
  Just checking if I am missing anything. 
  Seems like all the features are included in devstudio plugin as well. 
  
  1. Using the devstudio I was able to import new workflow from 7.1 to 
  7.6.04. 
  It is importing the new objects into base mode. Then I can convert 
  them 
  into custom. 
  It is giving the 8861 error for importing with overwrite on existing 
  objects  which is same with your tool as well. 
  2. DevStudio plugin also can to convert custom to base and  vice-versa. 
  
  On Monday, August 20, 2012 11:14:10 PM UTC-7, Misi Mladoniczky wrote: 
  
  Hi, 
  
  If you can determine which objects to migrate, and which are CUSTOM and 
  OVERLAY respectively, you can use RRR|DefBPCU to convert the exported 
  DEF:s to the correct overlay-setting before the import. 
  
  https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrDefBPCU 
  
  Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 
  2011) 
  
  Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11): 
  * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. 
  * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy 
  logs. 
  Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at 
  http://rrr.se. 
  
   I created a copy of our prod env which in on ars 7.1 custom apps  and 
   upgraded it to 7.6.04 p002 a few months ago. 
   During the upgrade process I used bpcu utility to convert the  OOTB 
  core 
   forms like email system, user, group  etc.. to overlays where we 
   did customization. 
   The 7.6.04 server is running in overlay mode and is currently going 
   through 
   testing. 
   Now in the past few weeks there have been some code changes made in 
  our 
   prod ars 7.1 server. 
   How can I import those changes into 7.6.04 server? 
   Do I need to go through whole upgrade process again? 
   
   
  
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Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread Ray Palla
This suggestion is possibly realistic, however the amount of coding to  
parse out the Pending time is a vast effort.


Any other ideas other than creating a custom form specifically for  
tracking business time and pending time for every Incident modification?


R

Quoting patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com:


Did you check the incident audit log? You can calculate the amount of time
the ticket is in pending status from there.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:04:57 AM UTC-7, Ray Palla wrote:


Ladies and Gentlemen;

I'm looking for a field or place to grab the Incident Business Time
Duration for an ITMS 7.6.04 Incient Module ticket, excluding the time(s)
that the ticket is in Pending 'Status'.

I've found in the Incident Assignment Log form, the field 'Business Hours
Duration (Sec)'.  If I do a sum on all assignments related to the Incident
Number, I can get the total seconds that the ticket was open.  I need to be
able to subtract the amount of time that the ticket was in Pending, like
the SLM module would use to determine if an SLA was met or missed.  I've
spent considerable cycles looking for a place to grab the data from a field
in SLM, but can't seem to find it.

Anyone, have a suggestion for a place to look, or a formula to use to get
the desired result into a report???

Thanks;
R

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Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread Goodall, Andrew C
SLM can handle this - do you have the SLM module?

Regards,
 
Andrew C. Goodall
Software Engineer
Development Services
ago...@jcpenney.com
jcpenney
6501 Legacy Drive
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ray Palla
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:47 PM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

This suggestion is possibly realistic, however the amount of coding to  
parse out the Pending time is a vast effort.

Any other ideas other than creating a custom form specifically for  
tracking business time and pending time for every Incident modification?

R

Quoting patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com:

 Did you check the incident audit log? You can calculate the amount of time
 the ticket is in pending status from there.

 On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:04:57 AM UTC-7, Ray Palla wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen;

 I'm looking for a field or place to grab the Incident Business Time
 Duration for an ITMS 7.6.04 Incient Module ticket, excluding the time(s)
 that the ticket is in Pending 'Status'.

 I've found in the Incident Assignment Log form, the field 'Business Hours
 Duration (Sec)'.  If I do a sum on all assignments related to the Incident
 Number, I can get the total seconds that the ticket was open.  I need to be
 able to subtract the amount of time that the ticket was in Pending, like
 the SLM module would use to determine if an SLA was met or missed.  I've
 spent considerable cycles looking for a place to grab the data from a field
 in SLM, but can't seem to find it.

 Anyone, have a suggestion for a place to look, or a formula to use to get
 the desired result into a report???

 Thanks;
 R

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Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
We do check the performance impact at our preproduction servers, because I
was also concerned by it. The impact was less than 1%.

Test performed changing requests massively through web services by using
SOAP UI.

Jose Manuel Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/




On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Ray Palla ray.pa...@insona.com wrote:

 This suggestion is possibly realistic, however the amount of coding to
 parse out the Pending time is a vast effort.

 Any other ideas other than creating a custom form specifically for
 tracking business time and pending time for every Incident modification?

 R


 Quoting patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com:

  Did you check the incident audit log? You can calculate the amount of time
 the ticket is in pending status from there.

 On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:04:57 AM UTC-7, Ray Palla wrote:


 Ladies and Gentlemen;

 I'm looking for a field or place to grab the Incident Business Time
 Duration for an ITMS 7.6.04 Incient Module ticket, excluding the time(s)
 that the ticket is in Pending 'Status'.

 I've found in the Incident Assignment Log form, the field 'Business Hours
 Duration (Sec)'.  If I do a sum on all assignments related to the
 Incident
 Number, I can get the total seconds that the ticket was open.  I need to
 be
 able to subtract the amount of time that the ticket was in Pending,
 like
 the SLM module would use to determine if an SLA was met or missed.  I've
 spent considerable cycles looking for a place to grab the data from a
 field
 in SLM, but can't seem to find it.

 Anyone, have a suggestion for a place to look, or a formula to use to get
 the desired result into a report???

 Thanks;
 R

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Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread Jose Manuel Huerta Guillén
Do you mean by creating SVT's to track the time? Yes It can be a solution
maintaining the product OoTB. IMHO I don't like to use SLM to make
measurements that are not really a SLA or OLA. Our users get confused when
looking at the measurements for an incident and see all this info.

Regards,

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Goodall, Andrew C ago...@jcp.com wrote:

 SLM can handle this - do you have the SLM module?

 Regards,

 Andrew C. Goodall
 Software Engineer
 Development Services
 ago...@jcpenney.com
 jcpenney
 6501 Legacy Drive
 Plano, TX 75024
 jcp.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Ray Palla
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:47 PM
 To: arslist@arslist.org
 Subject: Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending
 Status time

 This suggestion is possibly realistic, however the amount of coding to
 parse out the Pending time is a vast effort.

 Any other ideas other than creating a custom form specifically for
 tracking business time and pending time for every Incident modification?

 R

 Quoting patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com:

  Did you check the incident audit log? You can calculate the amount of
 time
  the ticket is in pending status from there.
 
  On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:04:57 AM UTC-7, Ray Palla wrote:
 
  Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
  I'm looking for a field or place to grab the Incident Business Time
  Duration for an ITMS 7.6.04 Incient Module ticket, excluding the time(s)
  that the ticket is in Pending 'Status'.
 
  I've found in the Incident Assignment Log form, the field 'Business
 Hours
  Duration (Sec)'.  If I do a sum on all assignments related to the
 Incident
  Number, I can get the total seconds that the ticket was open.  I need
 to be
  able to subtract the amount of time that the ticket was in Pending,
 like
  the SLM module would use to determine if an SLA was met or missed.  I've
  spent considerable cycles looking for a place to grab the data from a
 field
  in SLM, but can't seem to find it.
 
  Anyone, have a suggestion for a place to look, or a formula to use to
 get
  the desired result into a report???
 
  Thanks;
  R
 
 
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Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status time

2012-08-21 Thread Carl Wilson
Hi,

pretty sure that the original question was a way to find out the duration of
an Incident without the time spent in pending (not track the time it spent
in Pending).

As mentioned by Andrew, the SLM module can handle this with the
Start/Stop/Exclude parameters.

There is nothing OOB that can track this via the Audit Log, etc as they do
not track the time spent in Pending.

 

Cheers

Carl

 

http://www.missingpiecessoftware.com/

 

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Sent: 21 August 2012 20:56
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Finding: Incident Business-Time Duration, minus Pending Status
time

 

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Do you mean by creating SVT's to track the time? Yes It can be a solution
maintaining the product OoTB. IMHO I don't like to use SLM to make
measurements that are not really a SLA or OLA. Our users get confused when
looking at the measurements for an incident and see all this info.

 

Regards,


Jose Manuel Huerta

http://theremedyforit.com/ 

 





 


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