Re: ENGAGE

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Re: ENGAGE / ENRAGE

[Sanford, Claire]

My plan was to come on Sunday and leave on Saturday.  I planned on attending 
the certification sessions.  They are not even worth it!

Dan, how can we give them the benefit of the doubt?  They have had since 2009 
to watch and learn how to do it from the Masters!! People that managed to hold 
down a full time job and do the conference!   They even appear to have hired a 
company to do all the heavy lifting for them!  I know you probably have to be 
supportive, the rest of us don’t.  It is extremely disappointing.  I talked 
this up to a co-worker who was also going to ask to attend this year.  There is 
one CMDB session (maybe 2?).  How can he justify the expense!?

I was looking forward to this because it was sort of like “going home again”.  
The RUG that was held there before was so full of great memories and learning 
that I really wanted it to be good!

Then again that conference had you,  Rick Cook, Warren Baltimore, Pat Zandi, 
Kim Moody, Phil Bautista and a host of other really awesome people to learn 
from! The conversations were both entertaining and very educational!

Remember the ARSLIST party in the Sushi Restaurant!  Very well attended and 
lots of fun!  “Look for the bright pink sign that says ARSLIST”  The midnight 
raid of the vending machines, the trip 10 miles away to purchase beverages.   I 
am starting to feel old!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
They may be busy but I look at the sessions and still struggle to see any 
technical depth for the BMC Remedy area. It might be there but with the naming 
of sessions I can’t tell.

That being said, and of course I am biased, let’s give them the benefit of the 
doubt. After all, BMC hasn’t done a North American conference since 2007, so 
they are probably working hard to get it right.
Everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt in 2009, or at least a couple of 
hundred of you did ☺

As for Evening sessions, Evening with Engineering has been on their schedule 
since day one, unique and important and worth attending the conference just for 
it!
For additional interesting networking, stay tuned, something will be worked out 
…..

How many are arriving Sunday (or before)  or leaving after Thursday?

I am giving up Canadian Thanksgiving Monday to be there, I need it to be 
worthwhile!

Cheers … Dan

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: July 28, 2014 7:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I think they are busy planning the conference.

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
Could be doable :)

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can 
set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could 
be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking 
(by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
Consultant

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or 
you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend 
the breakouts (and miss the candy)?

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook 
mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**

Re: ENGAGE

[Sanford, Claire]

I keep seeing ENGAGE and see ENRAGE!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 8:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

Lol
On Jul 28, 2014 7:00 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
I say you come down and we hold a mini RUG at ::gasp:: Universal Studios!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:27 PM, LJ LongWing 
mailto:lj.longw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted list 
coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.

Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are 
'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of those 
only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as 
'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1 CMDB).  
Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development platform, but as a 
platform to sell their OOTB toolspart of me is disappointed, but not 
surprised.

Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to Remedy, 
not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected for 
presentation

and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission fees, 
I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this 
year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so 
everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who knows.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller 
mailto:jason.mil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.  Once 
we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have an impact. 
 Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an impact on the 
overlay.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can 
set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could 
be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking 
(by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
mailto:taufc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
Consultant

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo 
mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
**
The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or 
you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend 
the breakouts (and miss the candy)?

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook 
mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or 
the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
mailto:jason.mil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We 
haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in for a 
day or two?.?.?.

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations by 
customers.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
mailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org>> 
wrote:
**
Just shaking my head…

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent 
matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE



**
It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
mailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org>> 
wrote:
You are certainly trusting Terry!

I’ll wa

Re: ENGAGE

[arslist]

They may be busy but I look at the sessions and still struggle to see any 
technical depth for the BMC Remedy area. It might be there but with the naming 
of sessions I can’t tell.

 

That being said, and of course I am biased, let’s give them the benefit of the 
doubt. After all, BMC hasn’t done a North American conference since 2007, so 
they are probably working hard to get it right.

Everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt in 2009, or at least a couple of 
hundred of you did :)

 

As for Evening sessions, Evening with Engineering has been on their schedule 
since day one, unique and important and worth attending the conference just for 
it!

For additional interesting networking, stay tuned, something will be worked out 
…..

 

How many are arriving Sunday (or before)  or leaving after Thursday?

 

I am giving up Canadian Thanksgiving Monday to be there, I need it to be 
worthwhile!

 

Cheers … Dan

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: July 28, 2014 7:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

I think they are busy planning the conference.  

Rick

On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" mailto:taufc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

** 

Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo mailto:lm...@me.com> > wrote:

** 

Yep, or a justin.tv   (which has a chat).
Could be doable :)


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury mailto:taufc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

**

Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can 
set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo mailto:lm...@me.com> > wrote:

**

Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could 
be a problem with BMC rules though).


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury mailto:taufc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

**

I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking 
(by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury mailto:taufc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
Consultant

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo mailto:lm...@me.com> > wrote:

**

The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or 
you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend 
the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

**

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or 
the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick

On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" mailto:jason.mil...@gmail.com> > wrote:

**

Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We 
haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in for a 
day or two?.?.?.

 

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations by 
customers.

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
mailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> 
> wrote:

**

Just shaking my head… 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  ] On Behalf Of laurent 
matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM


To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

 

** 

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
mailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> 
> wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 

I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can see 
it now… 

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for 
almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions 
are going to attend AND how mu

Re: ENGAGE

[Terry Bootsma]

LOL Claire...
 
For myself, the "ME" = "DIRECTOR"= "ME"  and I've had that conversation
many times... . :-) 
 
 
Terry
 

  _  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: July-28-14 6:25 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE


** 

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 

I'll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can
see it now. 

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone
for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content
is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

 

ME:  Big Sigh.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that
$75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:

** 

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 

However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain
date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-) 

 

Terry

 

 

 

 


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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

** 

I'm glad I'm not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that
we have no idea what the content is. There should not be "early bird"
pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
opinion.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

They missed one mark. in order to get a room you have to go through their
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
reservations.  

If the conference is more "sales" than technical, there is no way I can get
approval.  I'll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it
became WWRUG!

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark
on this conference.

 

Jason

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave


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Re: ENGAGE

[LJ LongWing]

Lol
On Jul 28, 2014 7:00 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury"  wrote:

> **
> I say you come down and we hold a mini RUG at ::gasp:: Universal Studios!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:27 PM, LJ LongWing  wrote:
>
> **
> I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted
> list coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.
>
> Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are
> 'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of
> those only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as
> 'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1
> CMDB).  Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development
> platform, but as a platform to sell their OOTB toolspart of me is
> disappointed, but not surprised.
>
> Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to
> Remedy, not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected
> for presentation
>
> and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission
> fees, I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this
> year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so
> everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who
> knows.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.
>>  Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have
>> an impact.  Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an
>> impact on the overlay.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
>>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>>
 **
 Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe
 panel like, or small breakouts or something...
 Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for
 this...

 Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not
 attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time,
 we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

 So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community"
 and whatever?

 We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it
 (that could be a problem with BMC rules though).

 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

 **
 I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
 Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
 networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
 go.


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
 wrote:

> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>
>> **
>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>>
>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>>
>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have 
>> them?
>>
>> Rick
>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing
>>> World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just 
>>> let it
>>> soak in for a day or two?.?.?.
>>>
>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>>> presentations by customers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
 **

 Just shaking my head…



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE




 **

 It seems the list is on now:
 http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


>

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

I say you come down and we hold a mini RUG at ::gasp:: Universal Studios!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:27 PM, LJ LongWing  wrote:
> 
> **
> I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted list 
> coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.
> 
> Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are 
> 'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of those 
> only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as 
> 'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1 
> CMDB).  Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development platform, 
> but as a platform to sell their OOTB toolspart of me is disappointed, but 
> not surprised.
> 
> Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to 
> Remedy, not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected 
> for presentation
> 
> and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission fees, 
> I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this 
> year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so 
> everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who knows.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller  wrote:
>> **
>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.  
>> Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have an 
>> impact.  Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an impact 
>> on the overlay.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>>> **
>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We 
>>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
 **
 Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
 like, or small breakouts or something...
 Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...
 
 Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? 
 If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could 
 use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
 
 So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
 whatever?
 
 We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that 
 could be a problem with BMC rules though).
 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
> 
> **
> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. 
> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. 
> Love networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you 
> decide to go.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  
>> wrote:
>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed 
>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical 
>> Marketing Consultant
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>> **
>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>>> 
>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on 
>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 
>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>>> 
>>> 
 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
 
>>> 
 **
 And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with 
 Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have 
 them?
 
 Rick
 
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  
> wrote:
> **
> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World. 
>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it 
> soak in for a day or two?.?.?.
> 
> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few 
> presentations by customers.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
>>  wrote:
>> **
>> Just shaking my head…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>> 
>> 
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> It seems the list is on now:
>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/eve

Re: ENGAGE

[LJ LongWing]

sorry...that was supposed to say 'NON BMCers'


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, LJ LongWing  wrote:

> I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted
> list coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.
>
> Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are
> 'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of
> those only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as
> 'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1
> CMDB).  Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development
> platform, but as a platform to sell their OOTB toolspart of me is
> disappointed, but not surprised.
>
> Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to
> Remedy, not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected
> for presentation
>
> and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission
> fees, I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this
> year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so
> everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who
> knows.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.
>>  Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have
>> an impact.  Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an
>> impact on the overlay.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
>>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>>
 **
 Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe
 panel like, or small breakouts or something...
 Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for
 this...

 Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not
 attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time,
 we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

 So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community"
 and whatever?

 We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it
 (that could be a problem with BMC rules though).

 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

 **
 I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
 Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
 networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
 go.


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
 wrote:

> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>
>> **
>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>>
>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>>
>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have 
>> them?
>>
>> Rick
>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing
>>> World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just 
>>> let it
>>> soak in for a day or two?.?.?.
>>>
>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>>> presentations by customers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
 **

 Just shaking my head…



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE




 **

 It seems the list is on now:
 http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>

Re: ENGAGE

[LJ LongWing]

I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted
list coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.

Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are
'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of
those only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as
'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1
CMDB).  Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development
platform, but as a platform to sell their OOTB toolspart of me is
disappointed, but not surprised.

Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to
Remedy, not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected
for presentation

and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission
fees, I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this
year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so
everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who
knows.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller 
wrote:

> **
> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.
>  Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have
> an impact.  Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an
> impact on the overlay.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe
>>> panel like, or small breakouts or something...
>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for
>>> this...
>>>
>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended?
>>> If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could
>>> use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
>>>
>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community"
>>> and whatever?
>>>
>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that
>>> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
>>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
>>> go.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
 speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
 Lead Technical Marketing Consultant


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

> **
> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>
> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>
> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>
> **
>
> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>
> Rick
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
>>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
>> in for a day or two?.?.?.
>>
>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>> presentations by customers.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Just shaking my head…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> It seems the list is on now:
>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.
>>>  I can see it now…
>>>
>>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to
>>> be gone for alm

Re: ENGAGE

[Jason Miller]

By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.
 Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have
an impact.  Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an
impact on the overlay.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

> **
> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe
>> panel like, or small breakouts or something...
>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for
>> this...
>>
>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended?
>> If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could
>> use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
>>
>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community"
>> and whatever?
>>
>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that
>> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>>
>> **
>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
>> go.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
>>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
>>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>>
 **
 The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:

 http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

 But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
 tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
 breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:

 **

 And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
 Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

 Rick
 On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:

> **
> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
> in for a day or two?.?.?.
>
> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
> presentations by customers.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Just shaking my head…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> It seems the list is on now:
>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>> can see it now…
>>
>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>
>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>
>>
>>
>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>> Chowdhury
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>> that $75! Hehe
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>> wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda
>> is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid
>> for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to 
>> a
>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>

Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

Sorry :p

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:55 AM, Scott Philben  wrote:

Oh. I was being facetious. I assumed there was another page somewhere with more Remedy stuff on it that BMC obviously forgot to include on this list. 

In the 2.5 days of this thrilling conference they seemed to have left out the interesting stuff. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 19:13, laurent matheo  wrote:


**
You have one page per day.
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-13
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-14
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-15
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-16






On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:48 AM, Scott Philben  wrote:


This is it? Is there a page missing somewhere?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 18:46, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:


** **

Just shaking my head…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can 
see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone 
for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you 
sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that 
$75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:

**

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out today 
or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 


However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date with a 
$75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

 


Terry

 

 

 

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference 
that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” 
pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my 
opinion.

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own reservations. 


If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can 
get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and 
giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make 
travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the 
mark on this conference.

 


Jason

 


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  
wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave


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Re: ENGAGE

[Scott Philben]

Oh. I was being facetious. I assumed there was another page somewhere with more 
Remedy stuff on it that BMC obviously forgot to include on this list. 

In the 2.5 days of this thrilling conference they seemed to have left out the 
interesting stuff. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 19:13, laurent matheo  wrote:
> 
> **
> You have one page per day.
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-13
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-14
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-15
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-16
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:48 AM, Scott Philben  wrote:
>> 
>> This is it? Is there a page missing somewhere?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 18:46, "Sanford, Claire" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ** **
>>> Just shaking my head…
>>>  
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>>>  
>>> **
>>> It seems the list is on now:
>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>>  
>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can 
>>> see it now… 
>>> 
>>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone 
>>> for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content 
>>> is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>> 
>>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you 
>>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>>  
>>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>>  
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>>>  
>>> **
>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that 
>>> $75! Hehe
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:
>>> 
>>> **
>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
>>> today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>>  
>>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
>>> conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
>>> date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>>  
>>> Terry
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
>>> Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
>>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>>> 
>>> **
>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that 
>>> we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” 
>>> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my 
>>> opinion.
>>>  
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
>>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>>>  
>>> **
>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
>>> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
>>> reservations.  
>>> 
>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
>>> approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
>>> became WWRUG!
>>>  
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
>>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>>>  
>>> **
>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
>>> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
>>> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark 
>>> on this conference.
>>>  
>>> Jason
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  
>>> wrote:
>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
>>> marketing.
>>> 
>>> Is this even worth going to?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
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Re: ENGAGE

[Rick Cook]

I think they are busy planning the conference.

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:48 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury"  wrote:

> **
> Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
>> Could be doable :)
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>>
>> **
>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe
>>> panel like, or small breakouts or something...
>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for
>>> this...
>>>
>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended?
>>> If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could
>>> use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
>>>
>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community"
>>> and whatever?
>>>
>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that
>>> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
>>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
>>> go.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
 speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
 Lead Technical Marketing Consultant


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

> **
> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>
> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>
> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>
> **
>
> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>
> Rick
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
>>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
>> in for a day or two?.?.?.
>>
>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>> presentations by customers.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Just shaking my head…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> It seems the list is on now:
>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.
>>>  I can see it now…
>>>
>>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to
>>> be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what 
>>> the
>>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>>
>>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what
>>> you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>>> Chowdhury
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye
>>> to that $75! Hehe
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda
>>> is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I had to 

Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

Donald... Definitely Donald, we need someone with a temper :D

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:48 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:


**
Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

**
Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
Could be doable :)

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:


**
Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

**
Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe 
panel like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for 
this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not 
attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we 
could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" 
and whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it 
(that could be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:


**
I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. 
Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love 
networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  
wrote:

In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed 
speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical 
Marketing Consultant


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  
wrote:

**
The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:

http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on 
tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), 
or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  
wrote:


**

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with 
Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
 wrote:

**
Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC 
Marketing World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just 
let it soak in for a day or two?.?.?.

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very 
few presentations by customers.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
 wrote:

**

Just shaking my head…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE


 


**

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the 
early bird rate.   I can see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of 
dollars for me to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no 
idea what the content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm 
grasp on what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to 
spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car 
dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
 wrote

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

Maybe we can try to get Goofy or Mickey Mouse to moderate


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:46 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

> **
> Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
> Could be doable :)
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>
> **
> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe
>> panel like, or small breakouts or something...
>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for
>> this...
>>
>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended?
>> If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could
>> use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
>>
>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community"
>> and whatever?
>>
>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that
>> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>>
>> **
>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
>> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
>> go.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
>>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
>>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>>
 **
 The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:

 http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

 But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
 tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
 breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:

 **

 And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
 Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

 Rick
 On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:

> **
> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
> in for a day or two?.?.?.
>
> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
> presentations by customers.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Just shaking my head…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> It seems the list is on now:
>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>> can see it now…
>>
>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>
>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>
>>
>>
>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>> Chowdhury
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>> that $75! Hehe
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>> wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda
>> is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid
>> for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to 
>> a
>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

Yep, or a justin.tv (which has a chat).
Could be doable :)

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:42 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:


**
Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

**
Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that 
could be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:


**
I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. 
Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love 
networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed 
speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical 
Marketing Consultant


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

**
The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:

http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on 
tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), 
or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:


**

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with 
Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  
wrote:

**
Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing 
World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it 
soak in for a day or two?.?.?.

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few 
presentations by customers.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
 wrote:

**

Just shaking my head…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE


 


**

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early 
bird rate.   I can see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars 
for me to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what 
the content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm 
grasp on what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to 
spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? 
Say goodbye to that $75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
 wrote:

**

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the 
agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 


However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and 
paid for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

   

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We
can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

> **
> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel
> like, or small breakouts or something...
> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...
>
> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended?
> If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could
> use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
>
> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and
> whatever?
>
> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that
> could be a problem with BMC rules though).
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:
>
> **
> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
> go.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
> wrote:
>
>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>>>
>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>>>
>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>>>
 **
 Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
 in for a day or two?.?.?.

 Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
 presentations by customers.


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

> **
>
> Just shaking my head…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
>
> **
>
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>
>
>
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
> can see it now…
>
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>
>
>
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
> Chowdhury
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
> that $75! Hehe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>
>
>
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
> Larsen
> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
> **
>
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
> that we have no idea wha

Re: ENGAGE

[Jason Miller]

I'll be there too also to network.  It will be hard for BMC to screw up the
networking.  That is unless none of the usual suspects attend and there is
nobody to network with.  I guess worst case I buy tickets to the parks and
enjoy the week.

So Dan...  Where is WWRUG15 going to be?


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

> **
> Ha! I was totally thinking of calling the hotel to see if they had a
> single room available to rent. All I need is electricity and I'm good!
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jason Miller 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Maybe we'll just need to kidnap Engineering and bring them to our
>> sub-conference that we'll be forced to create ourselves that week.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>>>
 **
 Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
 in for a day or two?.?.?.

 Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
 presentations by customers.


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

> **
>
> Just shaking my head…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>  You are certainly trusting Terry!
>
>
>
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
> can see it now…
>
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>
>
>
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
> Chowdhury
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
> that $75! Hehe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
> wrote:
>
>  **
>
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>
>
>
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
> Larsen
> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
> **
>
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
> opinion.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
> Claire
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
> their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
> reservations.
>
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I
> can get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
> before it became WWRUG!
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
> Miller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> I agree that our

Re: ENGAGE

[Rick Cook]

Seems like we could all meet somewhere cheaper, put on our own "event" off
the cuff, and get a better value.  Oh, wait.  We used to do that, and it
was pretty good.

Unless I am seriously misreading this schedule/agenda, I can't imagine even
wanting to ask to go.  Has v1.0 written all over it.

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:36 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury"  wrote:

> **
> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
> networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
> go.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury 
> wrote:
>
>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
>> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>>>
>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>>>
>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on
>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2
>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>>>
 **
 Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
 in for a day or two?.?.?.

 Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
 presentations by customers.


 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

> **
>
> Just shaking my head…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
>
> **
>
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>
>
>
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
> can see it now…
>
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>
>
>
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
> Chowdhury
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
> that $75! Hehe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>
>
>
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
> Larsen
> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
> **
>
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
> opinion.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
> Claire
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
> their conference

Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could 
be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:


**
I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached 
out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking 
(by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker 
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing 
Consultant


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

**
The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:

http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on 
tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), 
or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:


**

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with 
Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:

**
Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing 
World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it 
soak in for a day or two?.?.?.

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few 
presentations by customers.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
 wrote:

**

Just shaking my head…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE


 


**

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early 
bird rate.   I can see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for 
me to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the 
content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on 
what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say 
goodbye to that $75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
 wrote:

**

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the 
agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 


However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and 
paid for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

 


Terry

 

 

 

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval 
for a conferen

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

Ha! I was totally thinking of calling the hotel to see if they had a single
room available to rent. All I need is electricity and I'm good!


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jason Miller 
wrote:

> **
> Maybe we'll just need to kidnap Engineering and bring them to our
> sub-conference that we'll be forced to create ourselves that week.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>>
>> Rick
>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
>>>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
>>> in for a day or two?.?.?.
>>>
>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>>> presentations by customers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
 **

 Just shaking my head…



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 **

 It seems the list is on now:
 http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

  You are certainly trusting Terry!



 I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
 can see it now…

 ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
 gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
 content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

 DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
 sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.



 ME:  Big Sigh…



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
 Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 **

 Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
 that $75! Hehe

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
 wrote:

  **

 I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
 out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".



 However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
 the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
 certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)



 Terry








  --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
 Larsen
 *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE

 **

 I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
 that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
 pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
 opinion.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
 Claire
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 **

 They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
 their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
 reservations.

 If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
 get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
 before it became WWRUG!



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
 Miller
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 **

 I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and
 giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make
 travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss
 the mark on this conference.



 Jason



 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
 wrote:

 I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
 marketing.

 Is this even worth going to?


 Dave


 _

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference.
Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love
networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to
go.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury  wrote:

> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed
> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
> Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:
>
>> **
>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>>
>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>>
>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday...
>> So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you
>> attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with
>> Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>>
>> Rick
>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.
>>>  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak
>>> in for a day or two?.?.?.
>>>
>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>>> presentations by customers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
 **

 Just shaking my head…



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE




 **

 It seems the list is on now:
 http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


 On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

 You are certainly trusting Terry!



 I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
 can see it now…

 ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
 gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
 content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

 DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
 sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.



 ME:  Big Sigh…



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
 Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 **

 Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
 that $75! Hehe

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
 wrote:

 **

 I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
 out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".



 However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
 the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
 certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)



 Terry








 --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
 Larsen
 *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE

 **

 I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
 that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
 pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
 opinion.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
 Claire
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 **

 They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
 their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
 reservations.

 If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
 get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
 before it became WWRUG!



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
 Miller
 *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE



 *

Re: ENGAGE

[Rick Cook]

Wow.  Two. Whole. Hours.   It's like the BMC people in charge of organizing
this thing have never actually attended one.  Wow.

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:31 PM, "laurent matheo"  wrote:

> **
> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>
> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>
> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday...
> So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you
> attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>
> **
>
> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering
> or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>
> Rick
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We
>> haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in
>> for a day or two?.?.?.
>>
>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>> presentations by customers.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Just shaking my head…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> It seems the list is on now:
>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>>> can see it now…
>>>
>>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>>
>>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>>> Chowdhury
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>>> that $75! Hehe
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
>>> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
>>> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
>>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
>>> Larsen
>>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
>>> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
>>> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
>>> Claire
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
>>> their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
>>> reservations.
>>>
>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
>>> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
>>> before it became WWRUG!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
>>> Miller
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and
>>> giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make
>>> travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss
>>> the mark on this conference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
>>> marketing.
>>>
>>> Is this even worth going to?
>>

Re: ENGAGE

[Jason Miller]

Maybe we'll just need to kidnap Engineering and bring them to our
sub-conference that we'll be forced to create ourselves that week.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Rick Cook  wrote:

> **
>
> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering
> or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>
> Rick
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We
>> haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in
>> for a day or two?.?.?.
>>
>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>> presentations by customers.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Just shaking my head…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> It seems the list is on now:
>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>>> can see it now…
>>>
>>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>>
>>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>>> Chowdhury
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>>> that $75! Hehe
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  **
>>>
>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
>>> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
>>> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
>>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
>>> Larsen
>>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
>>> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
>>> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
>>> Claire
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
>>> their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
>>> reservations.
>>>
>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
>>> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
>>> before it became WWRUG!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
>>> Miller
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and
>>> giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make
>>> travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss
>>> the mark on this conference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
>>> marketing.
>>>
>>> Is this even worth going to?
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
>>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
>>>
>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog:
Lead Technical Marketing Consultant


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

> **
> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
>
> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
>
> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday...
> So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you
> attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:
>
> **
>
> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering
> or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
>
> Rick
> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We
>> haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in
>> for a day or two?.?.?.
>>
>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
>> presentations by customers.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Just shaking my head…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> It seems the list is on now:
>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>>> can see it now…
>>>
>>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>>
>>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>>> Chowdhury
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>>> that $75! Hehe
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
>>> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
>>> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
>>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
>>> Larsen
>>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
>>> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
>>> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
>>> Claire
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through
>>> their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
>>> reservations.
>>>
>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
>>> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
>>> before it became WWRUG!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
>>> Miller
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and
>>> giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make
>>> travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss
>>> the mark on this conference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
>>> marketing.
>>

Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or 
you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend 
the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook  wrote:


**

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or 
the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:

**
Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We 
haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in for a 
day or two?.?.?.

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations 
by customers.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
 wrote:

**

Just shaking my head…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE


 


**

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.  
 I can see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to 
be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the 
content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what 
you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye 
to that $75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
 wrote:

**

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is 
out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 


However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for 
the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date with 
a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

 


Terry

 

 

 

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a 
conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early 
bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my 
opinion.

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own reservations. 


If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no 
way I can get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was 
before it became WWRUG!

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating 
and giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make 
travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the 
mark on this conference.

 


Jason

 


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
 wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that 
lots of marketing.

Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

Of course, the one time I try to create a poll about this in Communities, I
get an error each time I try to submit. Maybe it's because I'm using the
BMC Engage tags :)



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Jason Miller 
wrote:

> **
> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We
> haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in
> for a day or two?.?.?.
>
> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
> presentations by customers.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Just shaking my head…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> It seems the list is on now:
>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>  You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>> can see it now…
>>
>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>
>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>
>>
>>
>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>> Chowdhury
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>> that $75! Hehe
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  **
>>
>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
>> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
>> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
>> Larsen
>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>> **
>>
>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
>> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
>> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
>> opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
>> Claire
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their
>> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
>> reservations.
>>
>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
>> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
>> before it became WWRUG!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
>> Miller
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and
>> giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make
>> travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss
>> the mark on this conference.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
>> marketing.
>>
>> Is this even worth going to?
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> ___
>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
>>
>>
>>
>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
>>
>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>>
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Re: ENGAGE

[Rick Cook]

And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering
or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"  wrote:

> **
> Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We
> haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in
> for a day or two?.?.?.
>
> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few
> presentations by customers.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Just shaking my head…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> It seems the list is on now:
>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>>
>>
>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
>> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>>
>>  You are certainly trusting Terry!
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
>> can see it now…
>>
>> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be
>> gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the
>> content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>>
>> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
>> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>>
>>
>>
>> ME:  Big Sigh…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
>> Chowdhury
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to
>> that $75! Hehe
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  **
>>
>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is
>> out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for
>> the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a
>> certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
>> Larsen
>> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>> **
>>
>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference
>> that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
>> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
>> opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
>> Claire
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their
>> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
>> reservations.
>>
>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
>> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
>> before it became WWRUG!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
>> Miller
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and
>> giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make
>> travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss
>> the mark on this conference.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
>> marketing.
>>
>> Is this even worth going to?
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: ENGAGE

[Jason Miller]

Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We
haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in
for a day or two?.?.?.

Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations
by customers.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <
claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:

> **
>
> Just shaking my head…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>  You are certainly trusting Terry!
>
>
>
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
> can see it now…
>
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone
> for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content
> is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>
>
>
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
> Chowdhury
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that
> $75! Hehe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
> wrote:
>
>  **
>
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out
> today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>
>
>
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the
> conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain
> date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
> Larsen
> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
> **
>
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that
> we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
> opinion.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
> Claire
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their
> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
> reservations.
>
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
> before it became WWRUG!
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
> Miller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark
> on this conference.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
> wrote:
>
> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
> marketing.
>
> Is this even worth going to?
>
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: ENGAGE

[Joe D'Souza]

The difference is, car salesmen let you on a test drive - and it's usually
free... unless you hit the car on the drive somewhere :-)

 

Joe

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that
$75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:

** 

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 

However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain
date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-) 

 

Terry

 

 

 

 


  _  


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

** 

I'm glad I'm not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that
we have no idea what the content is. There should not be "early bird"
pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
opinion.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

They missed one mark. in order to get a room you have to go through their
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
reservations.  

If the conference is more "sales" than technical, there is no way I can get
approval.  I'll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it
became WWRUG!

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark
on this conference.

 

Jason

 

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave


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Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

You have one page per day.
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-13
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-14
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-15
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda.php?date=14-10-16






On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:48 AM, Scott Philben  wrote:


This is it? Is there a page missing somewhere?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 18:46, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:


** **

Just shaking my head…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:

You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can 
see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone 
for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you 
sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that 
$75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:

**

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out today 
or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 


However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date with a 
$75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

 


Terry

 

 

 

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference 
that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” 
pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my 
opinion.

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own reservations. 


If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can 
get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

 


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and 
giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make 
travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the 
mark on this conference.

 


Jason

 


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  
wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave


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Re: ENGAGE

[Rick Cook]

I want to know why they moved the bulk of the breakouts from morning, when
peoples' minds are fresh, to evenings, when they are fried and people want
to unwind.  For people coming from the West coast, lots of these will end
very late on our body clocks.  Wow.

Rick


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Scott Philben  wrote:

> **
> This is it? Is there a page missing somewhere?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 18:46, "Sanford, Claire" <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
> **
>
> Just shaking my head…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *laurent
> matheo
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
>
>
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <
> claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
>
>  You are certainly trusting Terry!
>
>
>
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I
> can see it now…
>
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone
> for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content
> is.  There is an early bird discount!!!
>
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you
> sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>
>
>
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
> Chowdhury
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that
> $75! Hehe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
> wrote:
>
>  **
>
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out
> today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>
>
>
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the
> conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain
> date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Lynn
> Larsen
> *Sent:* July-28-14 5:03 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
> **
>
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that
> we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird”
> pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
> opinion.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Sanford,
> Claire
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their
> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
> reservations.
>
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can
> get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was
> before it became WWRUG!
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *Jason
> Miller
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: ENGAGE
>
>
>
> **
>
> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark
> on this conference.
>
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
> wrote:
>
> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
> marketing.
>
> Is this even worth going to?
>
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: ENGAGE

[Scott Philben]

This is it? Is there a page missing somewhere?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 18:46, "Sanford, Claire" 
>  wrote:
> 
> **
> Just shaking my head…
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> It seems the list is on now:
> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
> 
> 
> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
>  wrote:
> 
> You are certainly trusting Terry!
>  
> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can 
> see it now… 
> 
> ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for 
> almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
> There is an early bird discount!!!
> 
> DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions 
> are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
>  
> ME:  Big Sigh…
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that 
> $75! Hehe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:
> 
> **
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
> today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>  
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
> conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
> date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>  
> Terry
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
> Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
> 
> **
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
> have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing 
> that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
> reservations.  
> 
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
> approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
> became WWRUG!
>  
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> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark 
> on this conference.
>  
> Jason
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  wrote:
> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
> marketing.
> 
> Is this even worth going to?
> 
> 
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[Sanford, Claire]

Just shaking my head…

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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
mailto:claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org>> 
wrote:
You are certainly trusting Terry!

I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can see 
it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for 
almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions 
are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

ME:  Big Sigh…

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! 
Hehe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
mailto:tboot...@objectpath.com>> wrote:
**
I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date 
with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

Terry





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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
**
I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that 
expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
reservations.

If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

Jason

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
mailto:david_boy...@brown.edu>> wrote:
I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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Re: ENGAGE

[Sanford, Claire]

The agenda is there… they just hid it… sort of!

http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda

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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! 
Hehe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
mailto:tboot...@objectpath.com>> wrote:
**
I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date 
with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

Terry





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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
**
I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that 
expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
reservations.

If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

Jason

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
mailto:david_boy...@brown.edu>> wrote:
I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
 wrote:


You are certainly trusting Terry!

 


I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can see 
it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for 
almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions 
are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

 


ME:  Big Sigh…

 


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! 
Hehe

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:

**

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out today or 
tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

 


However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the conference 
with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date with a $75.00 
"admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

 


Terry

 

 

 

 


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that 
we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing 
that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.

 


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own reservations. 


If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

 


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 


**

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

 


Jason

 


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  
wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave


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Re: ENGAGE

[Sanford, Claire]

You are certainly trusting Terry!

I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can see 
it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for 
almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  
There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions 
are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

ME:  Big Sigh…

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! 
Hehe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
mailto:tboot...@objectpath.com>> wrote:
**
I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date 
with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

Terry





From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
**
I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that 
expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
reservations.

If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

Jason

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
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I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


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Re: ENGAGE

[Tauf Chowdhury]

Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! 
Hehe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma  wrote:
> 
> **
> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out 
> today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
>  
> However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the 
> conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
> date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
>  
> Terry
>  
>  
>  
> 
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
> Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
> 
> **
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
> have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing 
> that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
> reservations.  
> 
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
> approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
> became WWRUG!
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark 
> on this conference.
>  
> Jason
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  wrote:
> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
> marketing.
> 
> Is this even worth going to?
> 
> 
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Re: ENGAGE

[Terry Bootsma]

I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
 
However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain
date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-) 
 
Terry
 
 
 

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE


** 

I'm glad I'm not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that
we have no idea what the content is. There should not be "early bird"
pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my
opinion.

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

They missed one mark. in order to get a room you have to go through their
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own
reservations.  

If the conference is more "sales" than technical, there is no way I can get
approval.  I'll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it
became WWRUG!

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

 

** 

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark
on this conference.

 

Jason

 

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I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


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[Tauf Chowdhury]

Great point Lynn. That is kind of strange. I guess it works for companies that 
have pre approved training budgets. 
I think we are all curious about the content of the sessions... Both attendees 
and presenters. Especially us, being of the geeky sort! :)

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> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Lynn Larsen  wrote:
> 
> **
> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
> have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing 
> that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
> conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
> reservations.  
> 
> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
> approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
> became WWRUG!
>  
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: ENGAGE
>  
> **
> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
> people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
> arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark 
> on this conference.
>  
> Jason
>  
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  wrote:
> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
> marketing.
> 
> Is this even worth going to?
> 
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Re: ENGAGE

[Lynn Larsen]

I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we 
have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that 
expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
reservations.

If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

Jason

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
mailto:david_boy...@brown.edu>> wrote:
I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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Re: ENGAGE

[laurent matheo]

Well, if I understood correctly, the breakout list should hit the website 
today, so we'll know today :)

On 28 Jul, 2014,at 10:51 PM, Jason Miller  wrote:


**
I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

Jason


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan  wrote:

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave


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Re: ENGAGE

[Sanford, Claire]

They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their 
conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own 
reservations.

If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get 
approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it 
became WWRUG!

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**
I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving 
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel 
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on 
this conference.

Jason

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
mailto:david_boy...@brown.edu>> wrote:
I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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Re: ENGAGE

[Jason Miller]

I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark
on this conference.

Jason


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
wrote:

> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
> marketing.
>
> Is this even worth going to?
>
>
> Dave
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Re: Oracle Upgrade Question

[Hennigan, Sandra]

Thank you! 

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:37 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Oracle Upgrade Question

If you look closer in the Compatibility matrix you should see the statement 
that the ARS system supports the 11g and higher version of Oracle.   
The only restriction is you must still use the 11g Oracle client

Fred

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hennigan, Sandra
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Oracle Upgrade Question

**
Any DBA/Remedy guru out there?  

Environment:
ARS 8.1
ITSM 8.1
Oracle db
Atrium SSO 8.1
Mid-Tier 8.1.01 SP1

We are currently on version 11.2.0.3 of the Oracle database. Oracle is planning 
to release the 12.1.0.2 patchset for the 12c database in the next few months. 
Once it is released, the DBA would like to start upgrading our databases from 
11.2 to 12c.  This is considered a major Oracle product version upgrade. 

I checked the compatibility matrix and got this:

DatabaseOperating System
Microsoft SQL 2008, Microsoft SQL 2008 R2   Microsoft Windows 2008 (64 
bit), Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 (64bit)
Oracle 11g , Oracle 11g R2  Solaris 10
Oracle 11g, Oracle 11g R2   Red Hat Enterprise 
Linux 5 (64-bit)
Oracle 11g , Oracle 11g R2  Microsoft Windows 2008 (64 
bit), Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 (64bit)Any assistance is appreciated.

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer 

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Re: ENGAGE

[Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)]

I don't think they have published the agenda yet. But from what I hear there 
will be a lot of info presented in a number of areas.

hbr



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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Boylan
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 2:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [arslist] ENGAGE

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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Re: ENGAGE

[LJ LongWing]

The catalog of breakout sessions is supposed to be released either today or
tomorrow, so you can look at that and see if you feel it's worth going.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM, David Boylan 
wrote:

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>
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ENGAGE

[David Boylan]

I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of 
marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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Re: Oracle Upgrade Question

[Grooms, Frederick W]

If you look closer in the Compatibility matrix you should see the statement 
that the ARS system supports the 11g and higher version of Oracle.   
The only restriction is you must still use the 11g Oracle client

Fred

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hennigan, Sandra
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 10:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Oracle Upgrade Question

** 
Any DBA/Remedy guru out there?  

Environment:
ARS 8.1
ITSM 8.1 
Oracle db
Atrium SSO 8.1
Mid-Tier 8.1.01 SP1

We are currently on version 11.2.0.3 of the Oracle database. Oracle is planning 
to release the 12.1.0.2 patchset for the 12c database in the next few months. 
Once it is released, the DBA would like to start upgrading our databases from 
11.2 to 12c.  This is considered a major Oracle product version upgrade. 

I checked the compatibility matrix and got this:

DatabaseOperating System
Microsoft SQL 2008, Microsoft SQL 2008 R2   Microsoft Windows 2008 (64 
bit), Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 (64bit)
Oracle 11g , Oracle 11g R2  Solaris 10
Oracle 11g, Oracle 11g R2   Red Hat Enterprise 
Linux 5 (64-bit)
Oracle 11g , Oracle 11g R2  Microsoft Windows 2008 (64 
bit), Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 (64bit)Any assistance is appreciated.

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer 

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Re: Question on open sockets

[Vikrant Kulkarni]

I suspect its 7604 sp2 onward till 8.1 p 1 where this is an issue. Raise a
BMC ticket they have a fix. I guess I implemented the same on 7604 sp4
recently.

Thanks,
Vikrant
On Jul 28, 2014 10:25 PM, "Hodgdon, Paul"  wrote:

> **
>
> Is this type of behavior normal?
>
>
>
> Right now one of the production AR servers has 3600 sockets in "use" by
> the ARemail java process, and almost 3800 sockets
>
> assigned to the arserverd daemon.
>
>
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Question on open sockets

[Hodgdon, Paul]

Is this type of behavior normal?

Right now one of the production AR servers has 3600 sockets in "use" by the 
ARemail java process, and almost 3800 sockets
assigned to the arserverd daemon.

IPv6 traffic is not being blocked by the server and we are wondering if it 
should be.


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Alternate: (603) 862-4242
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Remedy License Report via BMC Analytics.

[ersureshbe]

Hi Team,

Is it possible to get the License Report - "Historical License Usage" form
via BMC Analytics?

Have tried into Remedy Report using scheduler option. But, Max entries get
list we have mentioned as 2000 to avoid performance issue.

Do we have any option to get whole month license usage from "Historical
License Usage" form thorugh auto scheduler. 

Kindly advise.

Regards,

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Re: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system

[Peter Romain]

The 7.6.04 AI can’t access the Remedy forms directly – this is what Carl is 
referring to.

Only the CMDB can be accessed.

 

However, you can use AI to access the database tables directly.

If you can copy the complete database record (Request ID, submitted and 
modified dates, etc) from the source server to the destination server then this 
should be quite straightforward.

It would be a little more complex if you have clobs.

It’s also easier if you don’t have status history enabled as you don’t then 
have any H records.

 

Cheers

 

Peter

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: 28 July 2014 16:49
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system

 

** 

Follow-up question, Carl.

We are wanting to use AI to move data between non-ITSM servers and a separate 
Data Warehouse.  Our scenario would work like this:

*   On a custom form on a custom AR Server, a record is saved.  
*   That action initiates a Filter that populates a local copy of the 
UDM:Execution form on the custom AR Server.
*   That Filter calls a Web Service on the AI server, pushing the data from 
the custom UDM:Execution form to the real one on the AI server.
*   The AI job called on the AI server gets data from the custom server and 
moves it into the DW DB using connection data already configured in the 
job/transformation.

Given those circumstances, could we use the 7.6.04 version of AI (installed on 
a 7.6.04 AR/Atrium/ITSM server), since AI is only being used to process jobs 
from other servers, and no local data is being read or written?

Rick

 

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Carl Wilson mailto:carlbwil...@gmail.com> > wrote:

** 

Hi Rick,

The functionality in the version of Pentaho that was integrated for 7.6.04 
didn't have the extended feature set of the later versions 
(adapters/connectors).  

The plugins were re-written and the functionality was extended to include the 
additional connectors/adapters in 8.x.

 

AIE / AI on 7.6.04 was pretty much on par, once 8.x came along AI overtook AIE 
on functionality/versatility/scheduling/etc.

 


  _  


 

Kind Regards,

 

Carl Wilson

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  ] On Behalf Of Rick 
Cook
Sent: 26 July 2014 01:24
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  
Subject: Re: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system

 

** 

Wow, I forgot about that. That might be the deal breaker there.  What was the 
reason that custom forms wouldn't work?  Hard coding in the binaries? 

Rick

On Jul 25, 2014 9:42 AM, "Roger Justice" mailto:rjust2...@aol.com> > wrote:

** 

AI was loosly integrated with 7.6.04 and it has limited functionality since it 
only worked with CMDB and none of the ITSM fors. AI for 8+ is fully integrated 
and works with all forms in ARS.

 




 

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From: Rick Cook mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com> >
To: arslist mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> >
Sent: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 12:39 pm
Subject: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system

** 

Has anyone out there installed Atrium Integrator on an existing 7.6.04 ARS/ITSM 
system?



The 8.x install documentation specifies that AI must be installed between CMDB 
and ITSM.  The 7.6 docs I've seen don't really seem to say much about AI until 
you start talking about upgrading it.

Also, the BSM Interoperability Matrix indicates that 7.6.04 SP2 is required at 
all levels to have AI installed at all, the retrofit question aside.  Can 
anyone confirm or refute that?  We're on 7.6.04 SP1, and I fear that we're 
stuck with AIE until we upgrade.

Thanks.

Rick Cook

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Re: Tasks without Parent Request ID

[Dinesh Kumar]

Hi Carl,

Thanks for the explanation.
Can you help me to create such custom code .

Kind Regards,
Dinesh kumar.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Carl Wilson  wrote:

> Hi,
> Unfortunately no, there is no OOB functionality to delete Tasks where the
> "Parent" was not saved or available - an unfortunate by-product of the way
> the Task Management system works.
> You would need to write custom code to achieve this requirement.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Carl Wilson
>
> http://www.missingpiecessoftware.com/
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> Sent: 25 July 2014 12:44
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Tasks without Parent Request ID
>
> Thanks for looking into it.
>
> Is it possible to delete the tasks automatically, without manual effort .
> We are facing this kind of issue in daily basics, so its very hard to
> check manually.
>
> Regards,
> Dinesh kumar.
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Re: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system

[Rick Cook]

Follow-up question, Carl.

We are wanting to use AI to move data between non-ITSM servers and a
separate Data Warehouse.  Our scenario would work like this:

   - On a custom form on a custom AR Server, a record is saved.
   - That action initiates a Filter that populates a local copy of the
   UDM:Execution form on the custom AR Server.
   - That Filter calls a Web Service on the AI server, pushing the data
   from the custom UDM:Execution form to the real one on the AI server.
   - The AI job called on the AI server gets data from the custom server
   and moves it into the DW DB using connection data already configured in the
   job/transformation.

Given those circumstances, could we use the 7.6.04 version of AI (installed
on a 7.6.04 AR/Atrium/ITSM server), since AI is only being used to process
jobs from other servers, and no local data is being read or written?

Rick


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Carl Wilson  wrote:

> **
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> The functionality in the version of Pentaho that was integrated for 7.6.04
> didn't have the extended feature set of the later versions
> (adapters/connectors).
>
> The plugins were re-written and the functionality was extended to include
> the additional connectors/adapters in 8.x.
>
>
>
> AIE / AI on 7.6.04 was pretty much on par, once 8.x came along AI overtook
> AIE on functionality/versatility/scheduling/etc.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> *Carl Wilson*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
> *Sent:* 26 July 2014 01:24
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system
>
>
>
> **
>
> Wow, I forgot about that. That might be the deal breaker there.  What was
> the reason that custom forms wouldn't work?  Hard coding in the binaries?
>
> Rick
>
> On Jul 25, 2014 9:42 AM, "Roger Justice"  wrote:
>
> **
>
> AI was loosly integrated with 7.6.04 and it has limited functionality
> since it only worked with CMDB and none of the ITSM fors. AI for 8+ is
> fully integrated and works with all forms in ARS.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Cook 
> To: arslist 
> Sent: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 12:39 pm
> Subject: Installing Atrium Integrator on 7.6.04 system
>
> **
>
> Has anyone out there installed Atrium Integrator on an existing 7.6.04
> ARS/ITSM system?
>
>
> The 8.x install documentation specifies that AI must be installed between
> CMDB and ITSM.  The 7.6 docs I've seen don't really seem to say much about
> AI until you start talking about upgrading it.
>
> Also, the BSM Interoperability Matrix indicates that 7.6.04 SP2 is
> required at all levels to have AI installed at all, the retrofit question
> aside.  Can anyone confirm or refute that?  We're on 7.6.04 SP1, and I fear
> that we're stuck with AIE until we upgrade.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rick Cook
>
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Oracle Upgrade Question

[Hennigan, Sandra]

Any DBA/Remedy guru out there?



Environment:

ARS 8.1

ITSM 8.1

Oracle db

Atrium SSO 8.1

Mid-Tier 8.1.01 SP1

We are currently on version 11.2.0.3 of the Oracle database. Oracle is planning 
to release the 12.1.0.2 patchset for the 12c database in the next few months. 
Once it is released, the DBA would like to start upgrading our databases from 
11.2 to 12c.  This is considered a major Oracle product version upgrade.

I checked the compatibility matrix and got this:

Database

Operating System

Microsoft SQL 2008, Microsoft SQL 2008 R2

Microsoft Windows 2008 (64 bit), Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 (64bit)

Oracle 11g , Oracle 11g R2

Solaris 10

Oracle 11g, Oracle 11g R2

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (64-bit)

Oracle 11g , Oracle 11g R2

Microsoft Windows 2008 (64 bit), Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 (64bit)


Any assistance is appreciated.

Thank you,

Sandra Hennigan
Remedy Developer


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