Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Kay W
When using the Data Wizard to change a support group name, Incidents, Tasks and 
Templates were all updated.  However, the Support Group and Assigned Support 
Group names in Work Orders were not updated.  Is this a known issue?  Is there 
a way to update those fields now that all the other references to that group 
name have been changed?

Thank you!

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Roger Justice

The Data Wizard was created prior to the SRM application with WOs being 
introduced and it has not been updated to include them. This is a known issue 
that has not been addressed since not all ITSM implementations include SRM.


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Subject: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders


When using the Data Wizard to change a support group name, Incidents, Tasks and 
Templates were all updated.  However, the Support Group and Assigned Support 
Group names in Work Orders were not updated.  Is this a known issue?  Is there 
a 
way to update those fields now that all the other references to that group name 
have been changed?

Thank you!

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Kay Wilthew
Thank you for the information on SRM.  Since this is a known issue, is there a 
workaround that would assist us in updating the Work Orders now that everything 
else has been renamed with the new group name?

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Roger Justice

You could review the Wizard workflow and create what you need for the WO, you 
can also try a Modify all.


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Thank you for the information on SRM.  Since this is a known issue, is there a 
workaround that would assist us in updating the Work Orders now that everything 
else has been renamed with the new group name?

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Brittain, Mark
Or if you have a very large number of work orders, set up an escalation to 
change the name. This way you avoid any client side workflow and permission 
conflicts.

Mark

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You could review the Wizard workflow and create what you need for the WO, you 
can also try a Modify all.
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Thank you for the information on SRM.  Since this is a known issue, is there a

workaround that would assist us in updating the Work Orders now that everything

else has been renamed with the new group name?



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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Kay Wilthew
We considered an escalation to update the WO tickets, as well as a Modify All.  
In both cases, we fear we will lose the Assignee, which will not work for us.  
It will also generate Notifications.  We can turn off Group Notifications on 
the Support Group but the individual notifications would still be generated.

If this is not the case, please advise, and thank you all for your assistance.  
This is a highly visible project and unfortunately we did not catch the WO 
issue in our testing.

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Although BMC doesn't support it, I'd consider (with heavy testing, of course) a 
SQL route to bypass all workflow altogether.  I haven't done this so you may 
run into other issues such as the assignment log, loss of the update in the 
audit log, etc. but it could be a quick and dirty way to get it done.

Just FYI, also check out your templates for ITSM applications.  For some reason 
I think not just Work Orders are missed, but something on either Incident or 
Change Templates as well.  Maybe the visibility?

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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We considered an escalation to update the WO tickets, as well as a Modify All.  
In both cases, we fear we will lose the Assignee, which will not work for us.  
It will also generate Notifications.  We can turn off Group Notifications on 
the Support Group but the individual notifications would still be generated.

If this is not the case, please advise, and thank you all for your assistance.  
This is a highly visible project and unfortunately we did not catch the WO 
issue in our testing.  

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Brittain, Mark
You could try a mod-all on 1 or 2 work orders or you could do an escalation on 
one work order and see what happens. Be better if you could try it in a dev 
invironment.

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Subject: Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

We considered an escalation to update the WO tickets, as well as a Modify All.  
In both cases, we fear we will lose the Assignee, which will not work for us.  
It will also generate Notifications.  We can turn off Group Notifications on 
the Support Group but the individual notifications would still be generated.

If this is not the case, please advise, and thank you all for your assistance.  
This is a highly visible project and unfortunately we did not catch the WO 
issue in our testing.

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Re: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

2013-12-16 Thread Lucero, Michelle
Hi, Kay:

Yes, this is a known BMC issue we encountered several months ago in ITSM 8.1.  
An enhancement request (RFE SW00453251)has already been submitted.

In the interim, BMC has provided a work-around to address “this”.

The work-around is actually in the ITSM 8.1 documentation and includes adding 
forms for the data wizard to update.

Look under the section for Modifying the Data Wizard to work with new forms.  
Give yourself some time to read through this section to really understand the 
implications.  The good news is that once you add the forms, you won’t have to 
do it again.

The data wizard uses a series of SQL statements to update the data.  It’s fun 
once you get into it.

Good Luck to you .
Michelle

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Subject: Data Wizard Support Group name change did not update Work Orders

When using the Data Wizard to change a support group name, Incidents, Tasks and 
Templates were all updated.  However, the Support Group and Assigned Support 
Group names in Work Orders were not updated.  Is this a known issue?  Is there 
a way to update those fields now that all the other references to that group 
name have been changed?

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