Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual machine -resolved thanks to norm.

2008-09-09 Thread J.T. Shyman
Nice. 

That's the hackish way of doing it. :) 

What I was suggesting was using the aremaild.bat file to uninstall and
reinstall just the windows service. Same reason, same result, different
approach. I like Norm's approach and will make a note of it for the future.

Thanks for sharing!

--- J.T. Shyman
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine -resolved thanks to norm.

Okay folks, Norm bailed me out again...

Below is the conversation and the solution:

Thanks again to Norm.

Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
man, i don't know what's going on
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i thought that maybe the passwords had expired for my email logins
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
so ir eset the passwords
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i cycled remedy on one of the servers that isn't used as heavily
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
and nothing will get the emails going
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Sounds like Java was updated
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
There is a registry setting that needs to be changed whenever Java is
updated
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Are you aware of this?
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
no
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i saw someone suggested reinstalling the email engine
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i would prefer not to do that
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
OK...let's check the registry
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
is it a remedy key?
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
aremail or somethign? i'll search on that
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Stand by...I'll get you the exact location
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
awesome, you rock.
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
thx
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
From the desktop, click Start...Run.  In the Open: field, type regedit
and click OK.
From the navigation tree in the left pane, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\Services\AR System Email
Engine.
Click on the Parameters folder to view its contents.
Write down the existing path value shown as the location of the JVM
Library.

Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
There's a file on your server named jvm.dll
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Its location gets changed each time Java is updated
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
You need to check the registry at that key I just sent and make sure
it's pointing to the right location
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
okay thx, i'm in the key now
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
yeah, they're differnet
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Fix it
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
do i just need to change the key and then restart the email engine?
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
but not the arserver, right?
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Correct.  Change the key to point to the proper location and just
restart the email engine
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
man you rock
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
that worked.
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
you are a genius
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
killer
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
go into the Control Panel and open the Java control panel

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Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine.

** 

Did you recently update your java engine? Or, at least, since the last
time you restarted it?

 

If so you may need to uninstall and reinstall the Remedy Email Engine
service. You can do this using the .bat files in the email engine
install folder. 

 

--- J.T. Shyman



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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:23 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine.

 

I'm running java version 1.6.0.7 (java 6 update 7) and remedy version
6.3.


My email engine crashed a few days ago and I cannot get it to come up.
I'm getting the error:

The Remedy Email Engine service on Local Computer started and then
stopped. Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do,
for example, the Performance Logs and Alerts service.

 

There is a chance that my Email Server User's 

Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual machine -resolved thanks to norm.

2008-09-09 Thread Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH
I was guessing the two approaches would do the same thing. I just was
liking the approach that didn't involve re-installing :)

Thanks for all the suggestions, it's nice to have a list that can be of
such help so quickly.

Gary

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine -resolved thanks to norm.

Nice. 

That's the hackish way of doing it. :) 

What I was suggesting was using the aremaild.bat file to uninstall and
reinstall just the windows service. Same reason, same result, different
approach. I like Norm's approach and will make a note of it for the
future.

Thanks for sharing!

--- J.T. Shyman
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72
CS/SCBAH
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:51 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine -resolved thanks to norm.

Okay folks, Norm bailed me out again...

Below is the conversation and the solution:

Thanks again to Norm.

Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
man, i don't know what's going on
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i thought that maybe the passwords had expired for my email logins
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
so ir eset the passwords
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i cycled remedy on one of the servers that isn't used as heavily
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
and nothing will get the emails going
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Sounds like Java was updated
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
There is a registry setting that needs to be changed whenever Java is
updated
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Are you aware of this?
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
no
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i saw someone suggested reinstalling the email engine
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
i would prefer not to do that
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
OK...let's check the registry
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
is it a remedy key?
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
aremail or somethign? i'll search on that
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Stand by...I'll get you the exact location
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
awesome, you rock.
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
thx
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
From the desktop, click Start...Run.  In the Open: field, type regedit
and click OK.
From the navigation tree in the left pane, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\Services\AR System Email
Engine.
Click on the Parameters folder to view its contents.
Write down the existing path value shown as the location of the JVM
Library.

Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
There's a file on your server named jvm.dll
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Its location gets changed each time Java is updated
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
You need to check the registry at that key I just sent and make sure
it's pointing to the right location
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
okay thx, i'm in the key now
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
yeah, they're differnet
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Fix it
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
do i just need to change the key and then restart the email engine?
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
but not the arserver, right?
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
Correct.  Change the key to point to the proper location and just
restart the email engine
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
man you rock
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
that worked.
Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH says:
you are a genius
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
killer
Kaiser, Norm E Civ USAF AFMC 96CS/SCCE says:
go into the Control Panel and open the Java control panel

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J.T. Shyman
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine.

** 

Did you recently update your java engine? Or, at least, since the last
time you restarted it?

 

If so you may need to uninstall and reinstall the Remedy Email Engine
service. You can do this using the .bat files in the email engine
install folder. 

 

--- J.T. Shyman



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Sent: Tuesday, September 

Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual machine -resolved thanks to norm.

2008-09-09 Thread J.T. Shyman
Good point, Norm.

Truthfully, in any production or near-production environment, for any
application not just Remedy, automatic updates are probably a bad idea.
Updates should be tested carefully prior to implementation.

I can remember a handful of times where a windows update broke a
line-of-business application. 

--- J.T. Shyman

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Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
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The only thing I would add that got truncated from Gary's cutting and
pasting is that Windows users should go into the Java Control Panel and
turn automatic updates OFF.  Having Java updates turned on is the number
one cause of this problem.
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Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual machine -resolved thanks to norm.

2008-09-09 Thread Tony Worthington
Another reason I install Java in D:\Program Files\Java\jre and D:\Program 
Files\Java\jdk

That way, if someone updates Java the paths all stay the same and (most 
of) this pain is avoided.

:-)

Tony

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Good point, Norm.

Truthfully, in any production or near-production environment, for any
application not just Remedy, automatic updates are probably a bad idea.
Updates should be tested carefully prior to implementation.

I can remember a handful of times where a windows update broke a
line-of-business application. 

--- J.T. Shyman

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Subject: Re: Email Engine will not start -- Failed to load java virtual
machine -resolved thanks to norm.

The only thing I would add that got truncated from Gary's cutting and
pasting is that Windows users should go into the Java Control Panel and
turn automatic updates OFF.  Having Java updates turned on is the number
one cause of this problem.
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