FW: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
You can build a Ford Pinto that will outrun a Porsche; does that mean that a Pinto is superior? Windows will continue to own the end-user market on simplicity alone for the foreseeable. Pop in a CD, answer a couple questions and you're done. Linux on the other hand (all flavors I've played with) require some configuring. This is not acceptable to average user that thinks a "command line" is a military formation. I believe Windows is so large because it tries to be all things to all people. It supports a zillion hardware setups, auto-configures networks, plug and play works almost flawlessly and almost every piece of software on earth is written for it. I've not seen the Linux client yet that operates as easily for a novice. If you're an old school UNIX guy, of course you will always prefer Linux/Unix/Solaris. JMHO Andy L. Mayfield Sr. System Operation Specialist Alabama Power Company Office: 8-226-1805 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer I disagree with your statement that this list proves nothing, but that's your right. When people ask me, in general: what is a more powerful OS, Windows or Linux, I can point them to this list. See, I know no website or whatever, that is vendor independent (free of interference or financial assistance/support from a vendor) that answers this issue with sufficient clarity and objectivity. For me, Microsoft, Novell or Sun or IBM marketing is just sand in air. Maybe microsoft should get some nerds to tune windows!! :-) __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Finally. One I have not heard of. Wintendo :-P *Rocky* Rocky Rockwell eMA Team – Remedy Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ph#1: 214-567-8874 Ph#2: 325-884-1263 Jarl Grøneng wrote: Agree, I use Mac just because I does not want to hassle around with wintendo :-) Its enough the have it installed on my work-laptop -- Jarl On 6/15/07, Guillaume Rheault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** 3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow…blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Agree, I use Mac just because I does not want to hassle around with wintendo :-) Its enough the have it installed on my work-laptop -- Jarl On 6/15/07, Guillaume Rheault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** 3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow…blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
SFOTINEF:RE: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
There is but one truth in computingit all sucks in some way. -C-dub ps - before you ask: SFOTINEF = So Far Off Topic It's Not Even Funny -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** I disagree with your statement that this list proves nothing, but that's your right. When people ask me, in general: what is a more powerful OS, Windows or Linux, I can point them to this list. See, I know no website or whatever, that is vendor independent (free of interference or financial assistance/support from a vendor) that answers this issue with sufficient clarity and objectivity. For me, Microsoft, Novell or Sun or IBM marketing is just sand in air. Maybe microsoft should get some nerds to tune windows!! :-) -- From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 06/15/07 4:34 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** Sorry, but that list proves nothing. Its just a list of, Hey, heres a list of really big, cool, powerful computers. How do I explain it? Nerds like Apple. -- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 3:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer 3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. -- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the bloat youre referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsofts attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow blah blah blah. Its a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. Its called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Dont run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. -- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen -- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
I disagree with your statement that this list proves nothing, but that's your right. When people ask me, in general: what is a more powerful OS, Windows or Linux, I can point them to this list. See, I know no website or whatever, that is vendor independent (free of interference or financial assistance/support from a vendor) that answers this issue with sufficient clarity and objectivity. For me, Microsoft, Novell or Sun or IBM marketing is just sand in air. Maybe microsoft should get some nerds to tune windows!! :-) From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 06/15/07 4:34 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** Sorry, but that list proves nothing. It's just a list of, "Hey, here's a list of really big, cool, powerful computers." How do I explain it? Nerds like Apple. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 3:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer 3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow.blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Sorry, but that list proves nothing. It's just a list of, "Hey, here's a list of really big, cool, powerful computers." How do I explain it? Nerds like Apple. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 3:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer 3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow...blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Max is just Unix on a PC. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 3:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer 3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow...blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
3 Macs made it to the list, and Macs are definitely geared towards consumers, so how do you explain that? Mac OS X definitely has all the bells and whistles that a "consumer OS" like Windows has. I would say Macs are geared towards consumers even more than Windows. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow.blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Comparing windows for server to unix for server would be attributable to comparing unix client for windows client. You have two different needs you are trying to solve. While Microsoft is beginning to notice this, and ramp up production on a better server, they still have a ways to go. They got in to the game late. I've used both UNIX and Windows Server 2k. I like UNIX better, it seems to require less hardware. I would prefer UNIX if I were in a large scale environment. However, in small scale settings, I would prefer windows 100%. It is just easier to use. The main deterrent I've found to Windows so far is security patches :-( From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:26 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow...blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
I think its because the sites select the OS they are using, and yes; they click Linux. -- Jarl On 6/15/07, Guillaume Rheault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Don't know Jarl why is this. One interpretation could be that the Linux section is a customized Linux, versus using an OOTB Linux distribution such as Red Hat or SUSE Guillaume From: Jarl Grøneng Sent: Fri 06/15/07 2:04 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer In the http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ list, Linux have 65.2%, but is not Redhat Linux a Linux? -- Jarl On 6/15/07, Guillaume Rheault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > > All, > > This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes > listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post > is then appropriate. > > Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. > There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 > supercomputers list > > The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: > > http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ > > The top 500 supercomputers by OS: > > http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ > > This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single > Window$ box made it to the top 500! > > Guillaume > > __20060125___This posting was > submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Much of the "bloat" you're referring to, Pat, is a result of Microsoft's attempts to make an operating system that the average consumer wants. The average consumer wants 3-D user interfaces, high-definition graphics and icons, windows that shrink and grow...blah blah blah. It's a bunch of eye candy designed to wow the consumer. It's called making something the customer will buy. Starbucks sells coffee because consumers want it. If consumers suddenly wanted lemonade, bet your bottom dollar Starbucks would trade in the espresso makers for lemon squeezers. The solution? Don't run server apps on Vista. Run them on Windows 2003 Server. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:54 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
you guys are funny.. Ever heard of Bloat code.. M$ Defined the term.. I would love to hear the justification on how I am going to make a system run faster, by creating more code to run it. Everyone knows M$ is so big it could take a bath in itself and not know it. Unix is small, configurable, and runs on small pieces of code. (FAST). M$ runs like a 30K pound hog ! Just use common sense folks.. Solaris run with with less that 50Meg of OS ram. Vista uses only 2Gig.. LOL On 6/15/07, Heider, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen -- *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Guillaume Rheault *Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *Subject:* OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: *http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/* ** This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Patrick Zandi ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
IMHO, the main reason why Windows is not adopted in the HPC community is because they cannot modify/tweak/tune/do whatever they want with the windows kernel. As far as I know, the windows kernel is still a mystery, for anybody except Microsoft, but correct me if I'm wrong. In any case, whether it's for a lack of ability to modify/customize/tune the OS to your needs, cost, or whatever reason, Windows is not there at the present time. From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 06/15/07 2:25 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** The only conclusive thing it tells us is that the HPC community does not use the Windows OS as much as other operating systems. But there can be a variety of reasons.and performance may not be one of them. I would suggest that a primary reason Windows is not used is because it has just recently developed an OS suitable for contemporary HPC applications and because of cost. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer we'll see how they do this year. I agree with you this is not a competition. Organizations can adopt whatever OS they like. However, the fact that Microsoft is not being adopted as the OS of choice for a supercomputer by the organizations that have the 500 most powerful computers, is a rather interesting and telling fact From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 06/15/07 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** With all due respect.I don't think that's a fair conclusion to make. Microsoft didn't list because Microsoft didn't show up for the "competition," which wasn't really a competition. It's just a list of the biggest, most powerful computing systems in the world. Expect to see Microsoft show up more frequently on this list, as Windows Cluster Server 2003 is rapidly gaining acceptance in HPC communities. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:24 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
The only conclusive thing it tells us is that the HPC community does not use the Windows OS as much as other operating systems. But there can be a variety of reasons...and performance may not be one of them. I would suggest that a primary reason Windows is not used is because it has just recently developed an OS suitable for contemporary HPC applications and because of cost. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer we'll see how they do this year. I agree with you this is not a competition. Organizations can adopt whatever OS they like. However, the fact that Microsoft is not being adopted as the OS of choice for a supercomputer by the organizations that have the 500 most powerful computers, is a rather interesting and telling fact From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 06/15/07 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** With all due respect...I don't think that's a fair conclusion to make. Microsoft didn't list because Microsoft didn't show up for the "competition," which wasn't really a competition. It's just a list of the biggest, most powerful computing systems in the world. Expect to see Microsoft show up more frequently on this list, as Windows Cluster Server 2003 is rapidly gaining acceptance in HPC communities. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:24 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Don't know Jarl why is this. One interpretation could be that the Linux section is a customized Linux, versus using an OOTB Linux distribution such as Red Hat or SUSE Guillaume From: Jarl Grøneng Sent: Fri 06/15/07 2:04 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer In the http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ list, Linux have 65.2%, but is not Redhat Linux a Linux? -- Jarl On 6/15/07, Guillaume Rheault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
we'll see how they do this year. I agree with you this is not a competition. Organizations can adopt whatever OS they like. However, the fact that Microsoft is not being adopted as the OS of choice for a supercomputer by the organizations that have the 500 most powerful computers, is a rather interesting and telling fact From: Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 06/15/07 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** With all due respect.I don't think that's a fair conclusion to make. Microsoft didn't list because Microsoft didn't show up for the "competition," which wasn't really a competition. It's just a list of the biggest, most powerful computing systems in the world. Expect to see Microsoft show up more frequently on this list, as Windows Cluster Server 2003 is rapidly gaining acceptance in HPC communities. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:24 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
In the http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ list, Linux have 65.2%, but is not Redhat Linux a Linux? -- Jarl On 6/15/07, Guillaume Rheault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
With all due respect...I don't think that's a fair conclusion to make. Microsoft didn't list because Microsoft didn't show up for the "competition," which wasn't really a competition. It's just a list of the biggest, most powerful computing systems in the world. Expect to see Microsoft show up more frequently on this list, as Windows Cluster Server 2003 is rapidly gaining acceptance in HPC communities. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:24 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
wouldn't that be good! LOL :D From: Heider, Stephen Sent: Fri 06/15/07 12:33 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
Re: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
Do you think they make a notebook version of those supercomputer? ITSM 7 requires a lot of resources. :) Stephen From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer ** All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
OT: Linux Rules TOP 500 Supercomputers - Not a single Window$ supercomputer
All, This is not directly related to the Remedy world, but since sometimes listers ask what questions about Windows vs. Linux/UNIX, I thought this post is then appropriate. Linux and UNIX are the undisputed champions in the supercomputer world. There is not a single Windows supercomputer that made it in top 500 supercomputers list The top 500 supercomputers by OS family: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam/ The top 500 supercomputers by OS: http://www.top500.org/stats/28/os/ This definitely must be a big embarrassment for Microsoft, that not a single Window$ box made it to the top 500! Guillaume ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
