Re: Merging CIs with Children
I hope this helps: To get a relationship to work in the CMDB you must bring over the two CIs AND their relationship class. For instance- let's say I have a computer system related to an IP address. In order to get those to come over I will need the following three items. 1. BMC_computersystem (original CI) 2. BMC_IPEndpoint (ip address CI) 3. BMC_HostedSystemComponent (relationship CI) Not having all three will cause the relationship to not show up. Children CIs on your case. If you simply add your relationship class to Dataset A it will show the relationship to only the ones in Dataset B. Because there will only be CIs made in that relationship class that "relate". Hope this helps-have a good day sir. On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Scott Philben wrote: > ** I tried adding both Dataset A and B to the Merge job but all that happened > was that both datasets got copied to BMC.ASSET but not the relationship. > > I am still working it and think I might have a fix. I will try on Monday when > I get in. > > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Peter Romain wrote: > >> ** >> Which datasets have you specified as Source Datasets in the merge job? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of sphilben >> Sent: 25 February 2011 15:54 >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Subject: Merging CIs with Children >> >> >> >> ** >> >> Listers: >> >> >> >> Does this make sense? I am using CMDB 7.6 to try and do the following with >> two datasets. >> >> >> >> Dataset A has 100 CIs >> Dataset B has 1000 CIs >> >> >> >> Some of the CIs in Dataset B are related to some of the CIs in Dataset A >> >> >> >> I want to merge all the CIs in A and the related CIs in B but not the >> unrelated ones in B (don't care about them at this point). I have a lot of >> unrelateds and I don't want to waste time processing them. >> >> >> >> So I think I am supposed to do the following: >> >> >> >> 1. Import Dataset A and Dataset B into the CMDB >> 2. ID Datasets A and B (this is new data so create ReconconciliationID) >> 3. Relate the relevant CIs in datasets A and B (records created in >> HostedSystemComponents) >> 4. Merge the CIs in Dataset A to BMC.ASSET, and include the Child CIs I >> already related using the "Related CIs in separate transactions" option on >> the Merge action. >> >> >> >> Step 4 is where it breaks down. When I run the Merge job it copies Dataset A >> CIs to BMC.ASSET but not the related Children. >> >> >> >> Am I doing it wrong? Or is what I am trying to do not possible? If you look >> at page 98 of the "BMC Atrium 7.6.00 Normalization and Reconciliaton Guide" >> it seems to imply that you can merge more than one thing at the same time: >> >> >> >> "Merges instances specified by the attached Qualification Set, destination >> CIs in weak relationships with those instances, and the relationships >> themselves. >> >> >> >> This option treats composite objects as one entity. For example, if your >> Qualification set selects a computer system instance, it and its components >> would all be merged. The individual CIs and relationships are merged in >> separate database transactions." >> >> >> >> Do I have to use a Qualification if I want all the CIs in Dataset A? >> >> >> >> If anyone has any insights, please let me know. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >> >> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Merging CIs with Children
I tried adding both Dataset A and B to the Merge job but all that happened was that both datasets got copied to BMC.ASSET but not the relationship. I am still working it and think I might have a fix. I will try on Monday when I get in. On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Peter Romain wrote: > ** > Which datasets have you specified as Source Datasets in the merge job? > > > > > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of sphilben > Sent: 25 February 2011 15:54 > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Merging CIs with Children > > > > ** > > Listers: > > > > Does this make sense? I am using CMDB 7.6 to try and do the following with > two datasets. > > > > Dataset A has 100 CIs > Dataset B has 1000 CIs > > > > Some of the CIs in Dataset B are related to some of the CIs in Dataset A > > > > I want to merge all the CIs in A and the related CIs in B but not the > unrelated ones in B (don't care about them at this point). I have a lot of > unrelateds and I don't want to waste time processing them. > > > > So I think I am supposed to do the following: > > > > 1. Import Dataset A and Dataset B into the CMDB > 2. ID Datasets A and B (this is new data so create ReconconciliationID) > 3. Relate the relevant CIs in datasets A and B (records created in > HostedSystemComponents) > 4. Merge the CIs in Dataset A to BMC.ASSET, and include the Child CIs I > already related using the "Related CIs in separate transactions" option on > the Merge action. > > > > Step 4 is where it breaks down. When I run the Merge job it copies Dataset A > CIs to BMC.ASSET but not the related Children. > > > > Am I doing it wrong? Or is what I am trying to do not possible? If you look > at page 98 of the "BMC Atrium 7.6.00 Normalization and Reconciliaton Guide" > it seems to imply that you can merge more than one thing at the same time: > > > > "Merges instances specified by the attached Qualification Set, destination > CIs in weak relationships with those instances, and the relationships > themselves. > > > > This option treats composite objects as one entity. For example, if your > Qualification set selects a computer system instance, it and its components > would all be merged. The individual CIs and relationships are merged in > separate database transactions." > > > > Do I have to use a Qualification if I want all the CIs in Dataset A? > > > > If anyone has any insights, please let me know. > > > > Thanks. > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Re: Merging CIs with Children
Which datasets have you specified as Source Datasets in the merge job? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of sphilben Sent: 25 February 2011 15:54 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Merging CIs with Children ** Listers: Does this make sense? I am using CMDB 7.6 to try and do the following with two datasets. Dataset A has 100 CIs Dataset B has 1000 CIs Some of the CIs in Dataset B are related to some of the CIs in Dataset A I want to merge all the CIs in A and the related CIs in B but not the unrelated ones in B (don't care about them at this point). I have a lot of unrelateds and I don't want to waste time processing them. So I think I am supposed to do the following: 1. Import Dataset A and Dataset B into the CMDB 2. ID Datasets A and B (this is new data so create ReconconciliationID) 3. Relate the relevant CIs in datasets A and B (records created in HostedSystemComponents) 4. Merge the CIs in Dataset A to BMC.ASSET, and include the Child CIs I already related using the "Related CIs in separate transactions" option on the Merge action. Step 4 is where it breaks down. When I run the Merge job it copies Dataset A CIs to BMC.ASSET but not the related Children. Am I doing it wrong? Or is what I am trying to do not possible? If you look at page 98 of the "BMC Atrium 7.6.00 Normalization and Reconciliaton Guide" it seems to imply that you can merge more than one thing at the same time: "Merges instances specified by the attached Qualification Set, destination CIs in weak relationships with those instances, and the relationships themselves. This option treats composite objects as one entity. For example, if your Qualification set selects a computer system instance, it and its components would all be merged. The individual CIs and relationships are merged in separate database transactions." Do I have to use a Qualification if I want all the CIs in Dataset A? If anyone has any insights, please let me know. Thanks. _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
Merging CIs with Children
** Listers: Does this make sense? I am using CMDB 7.6 to try and do the following with two datasets. Dataset A has 100 CIsDataset B has 1000 CIs Some of the CIs in Dataset B are related to some of the CIs in Dataset A I want to merge all the CIs in A and the related CIs in B but not the unrelated ones in B (don't care about them at this point). I have a lot of unrelateds and I don't want to waste time processing them. So I think I am supposed to do the following: 1. Import Dataset A and Dataset B into the CMDB2. ID Datasets A and B (this is new data so create ReconconciliationID)3. Relate the relevant CIs in datasets A and B (records created in HostedSystemComponents)4. Merge the CIs in Dataset A to BMC.ASSET, and include the Child CIs I already related using the "Related CIs in separate transactions" option on the Merge action. Step 4 is where it breaks down. When I run the Merge job it copies Dataset A CIs to BMC.ASSET but not the related Children. Am I doing it wrong? Or is what I am trying to do not possible? If you look at page 98 of the "BMC Atrium 7.6.00 Normalization and Reconciliaton Guide" it seems to imply that you can merge more than one thing at the same time: "Merges instances specified by the attached Qualification Set, destination CIs in weak relationships with those instances, and the relationships themselves. This option treats composite objects as one entity. For example, if your Qualification set selects a computer system instance, it and its components would all be merged. The individual CIs and relationships are merged in separate database transactions." Do I have to use a Qualification if I want all the CIs in Dataset A? If anyone has any insights, please let me know. Thanks. _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
