Oracle people change password without warning
Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Oracle people change password without warning
Alan, It is my understanding that changing the PW in the conf file, and restarting remedy will re-encrpyt the password once started up...so changing it in the conf file I believe is a valid optionbut honestly, a policy that intentionally takes a service offline because of mandatory without warning password changes sounds a bit insane. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan Truelove truelove.a...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Oracle people change password without warning
Yeah, that should be covered by an RFC, so that the process is orderly at least. Rick On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote: ** Alan, It is my understanding that changing the PW in the conf file, and restarting remedy will re-encrpyt the password once started up...so changing it in the conf file I believe is a valid optionbut honestly, a policy that intentionally takes a service offline because of mandatory without warning password changes sounds a bit insane. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan Truelove truelove.a...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Oracle people change password without warning
pretty normal procedure when locking down environments,(stigging) can't have a password that does not expire. What ever they set it to, log into outlook and set yourself a reminder, have remedy send an email a couple days before it expires too if you like. so you can then coordinate with dba to change it togethor. mike Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:50:45 -0700 From: lj.longw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oracle people change password without warning To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** Alan,It is my understanding that changing the PW in the conf file, and restarting remedy will re-encrpyt the password once started up...so changing it in the conf file I believe is a valid optionbut honestly, a policy that intentionally takes a service offline because of mandatory without warning password changes sounds a bit insane. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan Truelove truelove.a...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Oracle people change password without warning
Yes - pretty common process most places I've been too. Best to work with the DBAs and have them do it during a regular patching cycle when (if) you have the system stopped and let the DBAs be responsible for updating it both in Oracle and in the conf file. just save off a copy of the conf file before they go into it so that you have a copy of everything else. - Original Message - From: michael campbell soup...@hotmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:58:51 AM Subject: Re: Oracle people change password without warning ** pretty normal procedure when locking down environments,(stigging) can't have a password that does not expire. What ever they set it to, log into outlook and set yourself a reminder, have remedy send an email a couple days before it expires too if you like. so you can then coordinate with dba to change it togethor. mike Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:50:45 -0700 From: lj.longw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oracle people change password without warning To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ** Alan, It is my understanding that changing the PW in the conf file, and restarting remedy will re-encrpyt the password once started up...so changing it in the conf file I believe is a valid optionbut honestly, a policy that intentionally takes a service offline because of mandatory without warning password changes sounds a bit insane. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan Truelove truelove.a...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Oracle people change password without warning
I have heard this too but have never seen it happen. I just verified with an 8.1 system. I set the password in the ar.cfg file and restarted. The password is still clear text. What I do when I need to sync up passwords between AR System and the DB is set the password in the DB and in the config file, start the system and then change the password via Server Information. Alan, I am assuming your team is not to know the password? If not why not sit down with the DBAs and have them enter it into the Server Info form (they probably could even remote your PC)? It doesn't require a restart and will keep AR System and the DB in sync. Jason On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote: ** Alan, It is my understanding that changing the PW in the conf file, and restarting remedy will re-encrpyt the password once started up...so changing it in the conf file I believe is a valid optionbut honestly, a policy that intentionally takes a service offline because of mandatory without warning password changes sounds a bit insane. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan Truelove truelove.a...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Oracle people change password without warning
Exactly! Set password from the SQL first Put password in clear text in the ar.config Startup Login as admin, go to first screen under database (admin tab) and enter password there apply)... Go look in the at.conf it is now encrypted Sent from my iPhone On Nov 12, 2013, at 19:30, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.com wrote: ** I have heard this too but have never seen it happen. I just verified with an 8.1 system. I set the password in the ar.cfg file and restarted. The password is still clear text. What I do when I need to sync up passwords between AR System and the DB is set the password in the DB and in the config file, start the system and then change the password via Server Information. Alan, I am assuming your team is not to know the password? If not why not sit down with the DBAs and have them enter it into the Server Info form (they probably could even remote your PC)? It doesn't require a restart and will keep AR System and the DB in sync. Jason On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, LJ LongWing lj.longw...@gmail.com wrote: ** Alan, It is my understanding that changing the PW in the conf file, and restarting remedy will re-encrpyt the password once started up...so changing it in the conf file I believe is a valid optionbut honestly, a policy that intentionally takes a service offline because of mandatory without warning password changes sounds a bit insane. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan Truelove truelove.a...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Remedy 7.6.04/Oracle installation - at a Govt facility that shall remain nameless, the Oracle db admins are mandated to change password at intervals. -- doing this without warning. This means that one cannot access the Remedy tools. (And change the Oracle password stored there), Catch 22. I had proposed using API to modify the Oracle password field in the appropriate tab of the ' server info form' - but this it seems is not good enough-the ars.conf file has to be changed. Any suggestions? _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
