Looking 3 +yrs exp - Permanent Remedy Developer - NC
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Re: Looking 3 +yrs exp - Permanent Remedy Developer - NC
So you're looking for a 2 star person? Or are you looking for a permanent gig? Confused! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Vishal Navale vishal...@gmail.com wrote: ** _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer Needed!
Happy Friday! I currently have a permanent Remedy Development job opportunity open on the East Coast! Please contact me at tkie...@columnit.com if interested. Thanks, and I look forward to hear from you! JOB DESCRIPTION: Client is seeking a Remedy Developer to join the BMC Remedy IT Asset Team (ITAM) and help deliver a world class IT Asset and Software reconciliation system. * The Remedy Developer will be able to gather requirements, analyze, develop, test and enhance the BMC ITAM system. * Experience with Asset Management and BMC Remedy Systems is preferred. * Knowledge of SQL and Client Server Systems required. * JAVA knowledge a plus. Todd Kiefer Senior Technical Recruiting Manager Column Technical Services www.columnit.comhttp://www.columnit.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/toddkiefer1 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer
Ahem...may I interject here? That James cares to include in his job posts only what he cares to include is perhaps agreeable, though it would appear to be a peculiar move to anyone who has followed his job posts in ARSLIST over the past few months. It's certainly possible that James understands that reports of the current market strongly being on job seekers' favor may have been grossly exaggerated. That direct emails (plural) to James asking a few questions about his job posts go unanswered should perhaps count as one of those cosmic mysteries that still elude mankind. Or, there may be a simple explanation lurking around...but my mind has proved incapable of grasping it. After all, I am a mere speck in the grand scheme of the cosmos. --- Carey Matthew Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You and others have made it clear that it is not worth your effort to try to contact him directly to find out more information. ... ... We appear to have reached a point where multiple people hold mutually exclusive views and have clearly stated their reasons for their views. I suggest that we now enjoy the harmony in so much as we understand each others opinions and move on with the business of ARSList... Talking about ARS. :) I really like talking about ARS. -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On 3/28/07, Shellman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
N, too much time on slashdot! On 27/03/07, Durrant, Michael M. - ITSD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is the recurring In Soviet Russia... joke of the ARS list... Michael Durrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Share what you know. Learn what you don't. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List, We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:37 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. All persons are advised that they may face penalties under state and federal law for sharing this information with unauthorized individuals. If you received this email in error, please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error. Also, please delete this email after replying to the sender. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. -Original Message- From: Jarl Grøneng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 07:40 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Why not contact James and ask him about salary? -- Jarl On 3/27/07, Tyrone Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't be so bad if more details were provided - i.e. Salary. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Durrant, Michael M. - ITSD Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore I think this is the recurring In Soviet Russia... joke of the ARS list... Michael Durrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Share what you know. Learn what you don't. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List, We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:37 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. All persons are advised that they may face penalties under state and federal law for sharing this information with unauthorized individuals. If you received this email in error, please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error. Also, please delete this email after replying to the sender
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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What a Great Idea ! On 3/28/07, James Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no *pre-set terms* that an Arslist Recruiter member *must adhere to*. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the *level of detail a recruiter must show* in their post to the Arslist. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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James, I'm not saying you're right or you're wrong. But while you have a right to ask for certain practices to be followed when dealing with your company, you must understand that your customers have the right to have different expectations and levels of information than the ones you prefer. Successful companies seek ways to meet their customers' needs, because if they don't, their competitors will. You have been given the gift of criticism here - one you would not receive in a less interactive media. I might suggest that you consider how to use it to your advantage. It seems to me that there's a potential benefit to you to provide information that would lead more people to respond to your job posts. If you think that your current policies are working just fine and you want to stick with them, you are, of course, entitled to do that - it's your business. But if I'm right, how would adjusting your policies to better serve your customers harm anyone? Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer
Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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I maintain that if an Arslist member (A candidate/ An applicant) reads one of my posts and has a question about a job I would expect that they would contact me off-list (from experience this often happens and from my point of view goes someway to demonstrate someone's interest levels as those that aren't interested have a tendency in my opinion to waste time arguing or posting obtuse remarks on to the Arslist). This is simple recruitment methodology! I wonder if there might be a difference in the expectations of Arslist members from country-to-country?! -Original Message- From: Rick Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:26 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I'm not saying you're right or you're wrong. But while you have a right to ask for certain practices to be followed when dealing with your company, you must understand that your customers have the right to have different expectations and levels of information than the ones you prefer. Successful companies seek ways to meet their customers' needs, because if they don't, their competitors will. You have been given the gift of criticism here - one you would not receive in a less interactive media. I might suggest that you consider how to use it to your advantage. It seems to me that there's a potential benefit to you to provide information that would lead more people to respond to your job posts. If you think that your current policies are working just fine and you want to stick with them, you are, of course, entitled to do that - it's your business. But if I'm right, how would adjusting your policies to better serve your customers harm anyone? Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives
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James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers
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...then please email me off-list in an attempt to discuss further. -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 18:55 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
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I agree. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shellman, David Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:55 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives
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If you not willing to send on list then I'm not interested. I apologize to the rest of the list for taking up time and bandwidth with this exchange. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:19 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer ...then please email me off-list in an attempt to discuss further. -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 18:55 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer
David, I think James understands that. I also think he is using it as a sorting method to cut down on the volume of applicants that he sees from not really interested parties. You and others have made it clear that it is not worth your effort to try to contact him directly to find out more information. I also think he has made it clear that this condition is part of his design for the communication to ARSList about potential jobs. He appears to be OK with the limitations in his applicant pool that might be induced by the missing data in his posts. So We appear to have reached a point where multiple people hold mutually exclusive views and have clearly stated their reasons for their views. I suggest that we now enjoy the harmony in so much as we understand each others opinions and move on with the business of ARSList... Talking about ARS. :) I really like talking about ARS. -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two. On 3/28/07, Shellman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first
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Fair enough! -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 19:44 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer If you not willing to send on list then I'm not interested. I apologize to the rest of the list for taking up time and bandwidth with this exchange. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:19 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer ...then please email me off-list in an attempt to discuss further. -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 18:55 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting
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Ergo, Amen. C :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:56 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Fair enough! -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 19:44 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer If you not willing to send on list then I'm not interested. I apologize to the rest of the list for taking up time and bandwidth with this exchange. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:19 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer ...then please email me off-list in an attempt to discuss further. -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 18:55 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, You seem to have missed the point. Not enough information has been presented for me via the list for me to make an educated decision if I'm interested in pursuing further. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Dave, If you are genuinely interested please contact me off-list to discuss further with a view that we may potentially speak over the phone. Regards James -Original Message- From: Shellman, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:00 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I enjoyed a few days in Singapore a few years ago. I remember the cultural diversity, drinking Tiger beer at a Mexican restaurant in the quay, the Night Safari, the T-Shirts listing the 10 things that's illegal in Singapore (chew gum, sex in elevator, etc), walking through the street market in the evening, and listening to the hawkers on the street corners to name a few. I was impressed with the fairly graffiti free city/state/country. I was surprised at the level of video camera security years before 9/11. What you have provided for a description of positions in Singapore was not quite enough to pique my curiosity to send you an email asking for further information. For my benefit and a few hundred others that could potentially be interested, sell me on why I would want to move several thousands of miles to take this position. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original
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I think that's probably a good part of it, James. So it's up to you as to which party needs to make the necessary adjustments. Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:36 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer I maintain that if an Arslist member (A candidate/ An applicant) reads one of my posts and has a question about a job I would expect that they would contact me off-list (from experience this often happens and from my point of view goes someway to demonstrate someone's interest levels as those that aren't interested have a tendency in my opinion to waste time arguing or posting obtuse remarks on to the Arslist). This is simple recruitment methodology! I wonder if there might be a difference in the expectations of Arslist members from country-to-country?! -Original Message- From: Rick Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:26 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I'm not saying you're right or you're wrong. But while you have a right to ask for certain practices to be followed when dealing with your company, you must understand that your customers have the right to have different expectations and levels of information than the ones you prefer. Successful companies seek ways to meet their customers' needs, because if they don't, their competitors will. You have been given the gift of criticism here - one you would not receive in a less interactive media. I might suggest that you consider how to use it to your advantage. It seems to me that there's a potential benefit to you to provide information that would lead more people to respond to your job posts. If you think that your current policies are working just fine and you want to stick with them, you are, of course, entitled to do that - it's your business. But if I'm right, how would adjusting your policies to better serve your customers harm anyone? Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter must show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -Original Message- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a small number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access
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List, We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:37 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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I think this is the recurring In Soviet Russia... joke of the ARS list... Michael Durrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Share what you know. Learn what you don't. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List, We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:37 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. All persons are advised that they may face penalties under state and federal law for sharing this information with unauthorized individuals. If you received this email in error, please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error. Also, please delete this email after replying to the sender. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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Wouldn't be so bad if more details were provided - i.e. Salary. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Durrant, Michael M. - ITSD Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore I think this is the recurring In Soviet Russia... joke of the ARS list... Michael Durrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Share what you know. Learn what you don't. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List, We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:37 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. All persons are advised that they may face penalties under state and federal law for sharing this information with unauthorized individuals. If you received this email in error, please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error. Also, please delete this email after replying to the sender. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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Why not contact James and ask him about salary? -- Jarl On 3/27/07, Tyrone Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't be so bad if more details were provided - i.e. Salary. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Durrant, Michael M. - ITSD Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore I think this is the recurring In Soviet Russia... joke of the ARS list... Michael Durrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Share what you know. Learn what you don't. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List, We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:37 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. All persons are advised that they may face penalties under state and federal law for sharing this information with unauthorized individuals. If you received this email in error, please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error. Also, please delete this email after replying to the sender. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
List; We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first instance. This is a permanent position. All the best, James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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Hi James, I always like job postings like this one and I appreciate information headhunters like you provide to this list, but lately I am more inclined to ignore postings from you. You advertise openings and do not respond to emails sent to you. I am not talking about a single instance, but a pattern over a long period. Either you have a secret filtering scheme that you choose not to share with the list or with people who respond, or you are just wasting listers' time. Or, may be you do not have a reliable email system. I don't know. If this is the case that's really bad business. Another peculiar feature of your posts, in my opinion, is that you provide a long list of requirements for the positions, but fail to provide a tiny bit of information about what anybody will get in return, or any other information to enable interested people to make a decision to pursue the lead. I don't know about other listers, but I am much less likely to respond to such ads. It's not only a poor way to advertise (especially if you are asking people to relocate to another country), it wastes people's (and your) time. To cite an example, when people replied to you on the list recently, clearly indicating that most listers are weary of not knowing what they are getting into with these positions, you responded with how many thousands are needed for what kind of apartment in Singapore, but not about how much somebody can expect to make. The former piece of information is useless, without being able to compare it with the latter. I would want to continue to see job postings from you, but if all you provide is customer's demands and then fail to respond to direct inquiries, I for one will not be paying much attention. I did write you directly very similar emails which seem to have missed the target on your side, so I am trying a different channel one last time. Good luck with the positions. --- James Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are still looking for ars remedy developers with strong experience with databases and preferably with v7 experience. Roles will be for our Singapore based client. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG' Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org
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Oh gads...no wonder I'm finding it hard to breathLOL From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Richter Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 1:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore ** There are people that have ITSM 7 experience and like myself they are getting fitted for straight jackets. Good luck Howard On 2/9/07, patrick zandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** to live in a 1200sf apt the cost is only 1.2 mil .. I cannot see your perm job paying for that.. On 2/8/07, James Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on people, there must be some one out there that has at least some v.7 experience looking to relocate to Singapore. -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability ( i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com http://www.cubicegg.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org http://www.arslist.org/ ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org http://www.arslist.org/ ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org http://www.arslist.org/ ARSlist:Where the Answers Are -- Patrick Zandi __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ -- Howard Richter Remedy ServiceDesk Manager Red Hat Certified Technician CompTIA Linux+ Certified CedarCrestone Managed Services Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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Well heck, I have 7.x experience, enough to scare myself, but don't want to move to Singapore - LOL - James - want to consider using remote help? Bet you'd get lots of interest if you were willing to allow for remote work. :-) From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:00 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore ** Sorry, James, but the skill set your client wants would be difficult to fill if it were located in Hawaii. There just aren't all that many people from which to choose with all of that experience in both ITSM, Oracle, and scripting languages. And since everybody who is any good is plenty busy right where they are, you'll have to find someone who wants to move. Good luck, though! Rick On 2/8/07, James Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on people, there must be some one out there that has at least some v.7 experience looking to relocate to Singapore. -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability ( i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com __20060125___This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
Come on people, there must be some one out there that has at least some v.7 experience looking to relocate to Singapore. -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
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Sorry, James, but the skill set your client wants would be difficult to fill if it were located in Hawaii. There just aren't all that many people from which to choose with all of that experience in both ITSM, Oracle, and scripting languages. And since everybody who is any good is plenty busy right where they are, you'll have to find someone who wants to move. Good luck, though! Rick On 2/8/07, James Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on people, there must be some one out there that has at least some v.7 experience looking to relocate to Singapore. -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
Not exactly the best way to motivate people! Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wireless) - Original Message - From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Thu Feb 08 18:50:53 2007 Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Come on people, there must be some one out there that has at least some v.7 experience looking to relocate to Singapore. -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2007 16:05 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
FW: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
To further clarify skill preferences for the role(s) in Singapore for which our client is recruiting when speaking of at least 1-2 years comprehensive ITSM experience we would be particularly interested to hear from those that have worked with ITSM 7. Please be so kind as to make a note to advise in any email you may send to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). All the best, James -Original Message- From: James Tobin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:57 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Importance: High JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore
JOB: List, Our client is recruiting several permanent remedy ars developers for their Singapore office. Consequently, we would be keen to receive resumes from those individuals that may be interested in relocating to Singapore. Further information concerning our client and their projects aswell as specific skill requirements will be discussed with those who may be interested. Proposed roles will focus on requirement analysis, design, development and support of Remedy based applications. As a benchmark candidates should have experience of version 5 or above and preferably at least 1-2 year's comprehensive ITSM experience. Furthermore, Oracle (or Sybase) DB experience is mandatory and it would be beneficial if you have at least 1-2 years worth of experience with Java and 1-2 years experience in scripting languages such as Jscript, Perl or Shell. Please also include your current salary and package details (i.e. bonus etc) aswell as availability (i.e. notice period). I can be contacted using email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the best, James . . . . . . . . . James Tobin Cubicegg +44 (0) 870 720 1074 - office +44 (0) 7952 145 127 - mobile To learn more about Cubicegg please visit our website at http://www.cubicegg.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:Where the Answers Are
JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA
Hi, UCSF is looking for a Permanent Remedy Developer. For details, go to http://www.ucsfhr.ucsf.edu/careers/, and search on Req Number 19588BR. Thanks, Helen Tao Lead Remedy Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA
You can look that up on the website - basically min. is about 65K, max is about $108k plus benefits. (Not that I'm looking - just doing market research...) Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ocampo, Erwin Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA Helen, What is the salary range assuming you meet the experience requirements? Thanks, Erwin -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen Tao Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:15 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA Hi, UCSF is looking for a Permanent Remedy Developer. For details, go to http://www.ucsfhr.ucsf.edu/careers/, and search on Req Number 19588BR. Thanks, Helen Tao Lead Remedy Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org
Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA
And that seems low to me, given that we can't even buy a condo for much less than a millionhmm and SF is one of the most expensive cities in the country. LOL :) Candace -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:08 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA You can look that up on the website - basically min. is about 65K, max is about $108k plus benefits. (Not that I'm looking - just doing market research...) Rick -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ocampo, Erwin Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:59 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA Helen, What is the salary range assuming you meet the experience requirements? Thanks, Erwin -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen Tao Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:15 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: JOB: Permanent Remedy Developer Position in San Francisco, CA Hi, UCSF is looking for a Permanent Remedy Developer. For details, go to http://www.ucsfhr.ucsf.edu/careers/, and search on Req Number 19588BR. Thanks, Helen Tao Lead Remedy Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org - * This message contains information from Silicon Valley Bank, or from one of its affiliates, that may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by replying to this transmission. This message may include indicative rate information relating to one or more products offered through Silicon Valley Bank, or affiliated broker-dealer, SVB Securities. Rates and yields shown are provided for informational purposes only, are not guaranteed, and are subject to market conditions and availability. Nothing in this communication shall constitute a solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell a particular security. Columbia Cash Reserves, Columbia Treasury Reserves, Columbia Institutional Cash Reserves, SVB Securities Liquid Reserves, SVB Securities Institutional Liquid Reserves and SVB Securities Horizon Shares are offered through SVB Securities, a registered broker- dealer and non-bank affiliate of Silicon Valley Bank. Investments in these products require the involvement of a licensed representative of SVB Securities. Investment products offered through SVB Securities are not insured by the FDIC or any other Federal Government Agency, are not deposits of or guaranteed by Silicon Valley Bank or its affiliates, and may lose value. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at http://www.wwrug.org
