Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-08 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
As part of the install of AR System Server it is put into the bin directory.

You do have the import tool on the server as well.  I realized from laurent's 
post it actually resides inside a .jar file (arapiext7604_build002)

Fred

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry Murdock
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 7:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Import without import tool?

Thanks for your comments Danny.


> Remedy Integration Kit. (I think its integration). It's what is used for
> the BMC installers. Its like a driver program on steroids. In the
> suggested case, it would replace the Remedy Import Tool.

A number of people have mentioned this - where is it?
Bear in mind I don't have ITSM (we're 100% bespoke) and we're on Windows 
servers...


> You could have a directory copied to the persons desktop with the Remedy
> Import Tool. It doesn't have to be installed.

This might be the easiest solution. (Although I was looking forward to dusting 
off the API doc).

> Or if you want to stick to workflow, then create an attachment table for
> your person to save to. Then use the save attachment workflow and run
> process to execute anything that is server side for example the data
> import etc.

My server doesn't have Remedy Data Import installed - so unless someone can 
tell me where this magical rik is - then this isn't an option...




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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-08 Thread Danny Kellett
:) Its not downloadable anywhere. I don't even think its documented to be
honest. So it can be found within the packages of any installer. So not
easy to get I agree.

With regards to the import tool on the server, I meant copy it to the
server so you could write some workflow/run process to execute it.

There is also the driver.exe program on the server which can be scripted.
Always a good choice before breaking out the API doc. But it that floats
your boat then compile away :)

> Thanks for your comments Danny.
>
>
>> Remedy Integration Kit. (I think its integration). It's what is used for
>> the BMC installers. Its like a driver program on steroids. In the
>> suggested case, it would replace the Remedy Import Tool.
>
> A number of people have mentioned this - where is it?
> Bear in mind I don't have ITSM (we're 100% bespoke) and we're on Windows
> servers...
>
>
>> You could have a directory copied to the persons desktop with the Remedy
>> Import Tool. It doesn't have to be installed.
>
> This might be the easiest solution. (Although I was looking forward to
> dusting off the API doc).
>
>> Or if you want to stick to workflow, then create an attachment table for
>> your person to save to. Then use the save attachment workflow and run
>> process to execute anything that is server side for example the data
>> import etc.
>
> My server doesn't have Remedy Data Import installed - so unless someone
> can tell me where this magical rik is - then this isn't an option...
>
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-08 Thread Kerry Murdock
Thanks for your comments Danny.


> Remedy Integration Kit. (I think its integration). It's what is used for
> the BMC installers. Its like a driver program on steroids. In the
> suggested case, it would replace the Remedy Import Tool.

A number of people have mentioned this - where is it?
Bear in mind I don't have ITSM (we're 100% bespoke) and we're on Windows 
servers...


> You could have a directory copied to the persons desktop with the Remedy
> Import Tool. It doesn't have to be installed.

This might be the easiest solution. (Although I was looking forward to dusting 
off the API doc).

> Or if you want to stick to workflow, then create an attachment table for
> your person to save to. Then use the save attachment workflow and run
> process to execute anything that is server side for example the data
> import etc.

My server doesn't have Remedy Data Import installed - so unless someone can 
tell me where this magical rik is - then this isn't an option...

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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-08 Thread Danny Kellett
Hi Kerry,

Remedy Integration Kit. (I think its integration). It's what is used for
the BMC installers. Its like a driver program on steroids. In the
suggested case, it would replace the Remedy Import Tool.

You could have a directory copied to the persons desktop with the Remedy
Import Tool. It doesn't have to be installed.

Or you could write something although the whole maintenance issue with
that type of thing is something you want to think about.

dataimport.bat again doesn't have to live on the server. It can be on
his/her desktop including the mapping. As long as there is java there, you
are good to go.

You might want to speak to Misi to see if his product can take a csv as
well as an arx http://rrr.se/en/products/rrrchive.html

Or if you want to stick to workflow, then create an attachment table for
your person to save to. Then use the save attachment workflow and run
process to execute anything that is server side for example the data
import etc.

Good luck
Regards
Danny

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> At the risk of sounding stupid: what/where is RIK?
>
> Also bear in mind I'm on a 100% bespoke arsystem. There are no OTB
> applications installed.
>
> I think my best course of action will be to write a super small c# api
> program... I can't see any other way forward at the moment.
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-08 Thread Kerry Murdock
At the risk of sounding stupid: what/where is RIK?

Also bear in mind I'm on a 100% bespoke arsystem. There are no OTB applications 
installed.

I think my best course of action will be to write a super small c# api 
program... I can't see any other way forward at the moment. 

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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Chuck
Or use the Java API to read the CSV and import the information.

DONT use direct SQL calls into the DB to import AR data.

On Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:49:13 AM UTC-6, Kerry Murdock wrote:
>
> I don't know if I'm missing something obvious or not but here goes... 
>
> Remedy 7.6.4 
>
> I've got a customer who wants to import a .csv file on a regular basis. He 
> doesn't have the remedy import tool on his machine (and it's unlikely he'll 
> be able to get it installed). What would be an easy way to get the data 
> from the .csv file into a remedy form from the Remedy User tool? 
>
> Idea 1: 
> I've thought about copy/pasting it into a text box and writing some code 
> to read the commas and push it one line at a time. 
>
> Idea 2: 
> Use the remedy server dataimport command line - but that will be tricksy 
> as the server is quite locked down. 
>
> Ideas 3: 
> Erm... 
>
> Kerry 
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Jason Miller
I have always wondered about using rik but figured there wasn't any
documentation on usage since it is a back-end thing.  Not sure why it took
me until today to just run the command to see the help.


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Grooms, Frederick W <
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:

> You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it
> is used during the install) to do the dataimport
>
> Fred
>
> -Original Message-
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> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry Murdock
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Import without import tool?
>
> Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't
> have the import tool installed!!!
>
> K
>
>
> Kerry,
> I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an
> attachment field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.
>
>
>
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Dale Jones
Kerry,

Another option is via SLQ and Bulk Insert (If someone there has DB skills, a 
job/script can be scheduled.)
You will need a SQL Client on the machine that will run SQL.  Recommend a DB 
user other then ARAdmin

  *   Create Table (Holder Remedy table or DB Table and Create a Remedy View 
Form against it)
  *   Need a 15 CHAR unique column (SQL can set one)
  *   Use Bulk Insert to import the data
  *   Verify the data
  *   Once data is in a DB Table (Remedy Table or Remedy View Form against DB 
Table) you can run Remedy Code against it and Push/Pull/Manipulate... 
(Escalations, Filters)

Examples


BULK INSERT EmployeeDB.dbo.Employees

FROM 'C:\Data\EmployeeData_c.dat'

WITH

  (

DATAFILETYPE = 'char',

FIELDTERMINATOR = ',',

ROWTERMINATOR = '\r\n'

  );



OR




BULK INSERT mdb_cleanse.dbo.[@repository employee list]
FROM ‘C:\Users\djones\Documents\Run Queries\Employee_List.csv’
WITH
(
FIELDTERMINATOR = ‘,’,
ROWTERMINATOR = ‘\n’
)


Google Bulk Insert for many examples.

Take Care

Dale Jones
DCS
Raleigh, NC
919-523-6034

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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Import without import tool?

**
I remember I used to get that done using Command line interfacethere were 
certain parameters that I used.
arimportcmd was the command...I'm sure if you search that, you'll get whet you 
want.

Raman



On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Grooms, Frederick W 
mailto:frederick.w.gro...@xo.com>> wrote:
You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it is 
used during the install) to do the dataimport

Fred

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Murdock
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Import without import tool?

Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't have the 
import tool installed!!!

K


Kerry,
I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment 
field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.



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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread laurent matheo
**
Oh, sorry for that I figured it was arslist :pErf... I didn't look at the email address itself, indeed it's something else (vyomlabs)...Sorry again.On 07 Mar, 2013,at 05:38 PM, Raman Arora  wrote:**We are getting your mails, Laurent... :)...may be a single mailbox rejected it..I received a similar rejection mail.-RamanOn Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:04 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:**It seems AREMail rejected my email, don't know why, perhaps because I gave some java command line?Anyway, in 7.6.04 you can directly attack DataImport through command line :)It works even on Unix/Linux (this is a live example tried on Suse here https://communities.bmc.com/communities/message/287980#287980). I don't put the java command line here, in case it was the reason it was rejected.On 07 Mar, 2013,at 04:47 PM, Raman Arora <arora.raman8...@gmail.com> wrote: **I remember I used to get that done using Command line interfacethere were certain parameters that I used.arimportcmd was the command...I'm sure if you search that, you'll get whet you want. RamanOn Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it is used during the install) to do the dataimport  Fred -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry MurdockSent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Import without import tool?  Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't have the import tool installed!!!  K   Kerry, I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"_ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years__ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years__ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years__ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_


Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Raman Arora
We are getting your mails, Laurent... :)...may be a single mailbox rejected
it..I received a similar rejection mail.

-Raman


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:04 PM, laurent matheo  wrote:

> **
> It seems AREMail rejected my email, don't know why, perhaps because I gave
> some java command line?
>
> Anyway, in 7.6.04 you can directly attack DataImport through command line
> :)
> It works even on Unix/Linux (this is a live example tried on Suse here
> https://communities.bmc.com/communities/message/287980#287980).
>
> I don't put the java command line here, in case it was the reason it was
> rejected.
>
>
>
> On 07 Mar, 2013,at 04:47 PM, Raman Arora 
> wrote:
>
> **
> I remember I used to get that done using Command line interfacethere
> were certain parameters that I used.
> arimportcmd was the command...I'm sure if you search that, you'll get whet
> you want.
>
> Raman
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <
> frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:
>
>> You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it
>> is used during the install) to do the dataimport
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry Murdock
>> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Import without import tool?
>>
>> Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't
>> have the import tool installed!!!
>>
>> K
>>
>>
>> Kerry,
>> I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an
>> attachment field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread laurent matheo
**
It seems AREMail rejected my email, don't know why, perhaps because I gave some java command line?Anyway, in 7.6.04 you can directly attack DataImport through command line :)It works even on Unix/Linux (this is a live example tried on Suse here https://communities.bmc.com/communities/message/287980#287980).I don't put the java command line here, in case it was the reason it was rejected.On 07 Mar, 2013,at 04:47 PM, Raman Arora  wrote:**I remember I used to get that done using Command line interfacethere were certain parameters that I used.arimportcmd was the command...I'm sure if you search that, you'll get whet you want. RamanOn Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it is used during the install) to do the dataimport  Fred -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry MurdockSent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Import without import tool?  Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't have the import tool installed!!!  K   Kerry, I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"_ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years__ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_


Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread laurent matheo
**
In 7.6.04 you can directly attack DataImport through command line :)It works even on Unix/Linux (this is a live example tried on Suse here https://communities.bmc.com/communities/message/287980#287980):java -cp /opt/bmc/ARSystem/api/lib/arapi7604_build002.jar:/opt/bmc/ARSystem/api/lib/log4j-1.2.14.jar:/opt/bmc/ARSystem/api/lib/arapiext7604_build002.jar com.bmc.arsys.apiext.data.DataImport -x lmasuse -u Demo -p Demo -l "/tmp/test/log2.log" -o "/tmp/test/report.xml" -a 3500#!/bin/shjava -cp /opt/bmc/ARSystem/api/lib/arapi7604_build002.jar:/opt/bmc/ARSystem/api/lib/log4j-1.2.14.jar:/opt/bmc/ARSystem/api/lib/arapiext7604_build002.jar com.bmc.arsys.apiext.data.DataImport -x lmasuse -u Demo -p Demo -l "/tmp/test/log2.log" -o "/tmp/test/report.xml" -a 3500  -x= ARS Server-u= username-p= password-a= ARS Tcp port-l= log path-o= import fileOn 07 Mar, 2013,at 04:47 PM, Raman Arora  wrote:**I remember I used to get that done using Command line interfacethere were certain parameters that I used.arimportcmd was the command...I'm sure if you search that, you'll get whet you want. RamanOn Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it is used during the install) to do the dataimport  Fred -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry MurdockSent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Import without import tool?  Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't have the import tool installed!!!  K   Kerry, I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"_ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years__ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_


Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Raman Arora
I remember I used to get that done using Command line interfacethere
were certain parameters that I used.
arimportcmd was the command...I'm sure if you search that, you'll get whet
you want.

Raman



On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:

> You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it
> is used during the install) to do the dataimport
>
> Fred
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry Murdock
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Import without import tool?
>
> Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't
> have the import tool installed!!!
>
> K
>
>
> Kerry,
> I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an
> attachment field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
You should be able to script the rik program (which has to be there as it is 
used during the install) to do the dataimport

Fred

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry Murdock
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:29 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Import without import tool?

Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't have the 
import tool installed!!!

K


Kerry, 
I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment 
field and then I save it to the server and run the import there. 



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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Kerry Murdock
Arghhh - well it looks like I can't do that because the server doesn't have the 
import tool installed!!!

K


Kerry, 
I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment 
field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.

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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Patrick Zandi
8.0/8.1. Integration tool with "Spoon". The old AIE... Upgraded as well 

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On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:58, Bira Mata  wrote:

> ** hi,
> You can use AIE job to import the data from .csv file.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Kerry Murdock 
>  wrote:
>> I don't know if I'm missing something obvious or not but here goes...
>> 
>> Remedy 7.6.4
>> 
>> I've got a customer who wants to import a .csv file on a regular basis. He 
>> doesn't have the remedy import tool on his machine (and it's unlikely he'll 
>> be able to get it installed). What would be an easy way to get the data from 
>> the .csv file into a remedy form from the Remedy User tool?
>> 
>> Idea 1:
>> I've thought about copy/pasting it into a text box and writing some code to 
>> read the commas and push it one line at a time.
>> 
>> Idea 2:
>> Use the remedy server dataimport command line - but that will be tricksy as 
>> the server is quite locked down.
>> 
>> Ideas 3:
>> Erm...
>> 
>> Kerry
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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Kerry,
I have typically written a process that they attach the csv to an attachment 
field and then I save it to the server and run the import there.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kerry Murdock
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:49 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Import without import tool?

I don't know if I'm missing something obvious or not but here goes...

Remedy 7.6.4

I've got a customer who wants to import a .csv file on a regular basis. He 
doesn't have the remedy import tool on his machine (and it's unlikely he'll be 
able to get it installed). What would be an easy way to get the data from the 
.csv file into a remedy form from the Remedy User tool? 

Idea 1:
I've thought about copy/pasting it into a text box and writing some code to 
read the commas and push it one line at a time.

Idea 2:
Use the remedy server dataimport command line - but that will be tricksy as the 
server is quite locked down.

Ideas 3:
Erm...

Kerry

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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Kerry Murdock
I should have said - it's a 100% bespoke system.

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Re: Import without import tool?

2013-03-07 Thread Bira Mata
hi,
You can use AIE job to import the data from .csv file.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Kerry Murdock <
kerry.murd...@remedycontractor.com> wrote:

> I don't know if I'm missing something obvious or not but here goes...
>
> Remedy 7.6.4
>
> I've got a customer who wants to import a .csv file on a regular basis. He
> doesn't have the remedy import tool on his machine (and it's unlikely he'll
> be able to get it installed). What would be an easy way to get the data
> from the .csv file into a remedy form from the Remedy User tool?
>
> Idea 1:
> I've thought about copy/pasting it into a text box and writing some code
> to read the commas and push it one line at a time.
>
> Idea 2:
> Use the remedy server dataimport command line - but that will be tricksy
> as the server is quite locked down.
>
> Ideas 3:
> Erm...
>
> Kerry
>
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