Re: Require Worklog Change

2011-03-16 Thread Nall, Roger
I know this may be old school but I would use TR.Assigned Group != DB.Assigned 
Group and TR.Assigned Group != $NULL$  AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$. 

Roger Nall
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-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mayfield, Andy L.
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 8:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Require Worklog Change

I would like to force a worklog entry on a form anytime the assigned group 
changes.

I wanted to get opinions on the best way to accomplish this.

I was thinking you would use a filter with a "Run If" like:   TR.Assigned Group 
!= $NULL$   AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$

But I wasn't sure if this would be the best way. I thought I remember seeing 
this on the list before, but I didn't have any luck searching for it.

Andy L. Mayfield
Sr. SCADA Operation Center Technician
Alabama Power Company
Office: 205-226-1805
Cell: 205-288-9140
SoLinc: 10*19140

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Re: Require Worklog Change

2011-03-16 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Andy, 
Most people would write it like you have, but you will find many people on the 
ARSLIST including me, who prefer something like this:

Assigned Group != DB.Assigned Group
   AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$

Reliance on TR value assumes the update came from a manual save from Windows or 
Browser client using the built-in Save button/menu choice (as opposed to from a 
record displayed on a dialog window and an Active Link  push field action; or 
from an API program or Push Field filter action triggered from another 
record/transaction). True most of the time for most setups, so you might get 
away with it. But it can cause trouble, so write it the above way, if you want 
it "bullet proof". I do not wish to start a long thread on this topic. It has 
been talked to death in the past, but I can elaborate it for you, if you wish.

Note that I left the TR alone for WorkLog field, because it, I am assuming, is 
a "diary" type of field that is treated differently by active links and 
filters. I think TR prefix should work for this field.





--- On Wed, 3/16/11, Mayfield, Andy L.  wrote:

> From: Mayfield, Andy L. 
> Subject: Require Worklog Change
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 9:30 AM
> I would like to force a worklog entry
> on a form anytime the assigned group changes.
> 
> I wanted to get opinions on the best way to accomplish
> this.
> 
> I was thinking you would use a filter with a "Run If"
> like:   TR.Assigned Group !=
> $NULL$   AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$
> 
> But I wasn't sure if this would be the best way. I thought
> I remember seeing this on the list before, but I didn't have
> any luck searching for it.
> 
> Andy L. Mayfield
> Sr. SCADA Operation Center Technician
> Alabama Power Company
> Office: 205-226-1805
> Cell: 205-288-9140
> SoLinc: 10*19140
> 
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Re: Require Worklog Change

2011-03-16 Thread Brittain, Mark
Old dogs, same trick.

I would agree with Roger however I don't use the TR. Rather I use (Assigned 
Group != DB.Assigned Group). I have an active link that puts ticket assigned to 
%Assigned Group$. I also have an active link that makes entry in the Work Log 
required. If you have something similar then the "AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$" is 
overkill.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nall, Roger
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:31 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Require Worklog Change

I know this may be old school but I would use TR.Assigned Group != DB.Assigned 
Group and TR.Assigned Group != $NULL$  AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$.

Roger Nall
Manager, SA Business Intelligence/Remedy
Desk Phone: 972-464-3712
Mobile: 973-652-6723

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| Reports  |SA_Suggestion Box | SA_Trouble Ticket |


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mayfield, Andy L.
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 8:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Require Worklog Change

I would like to force a worklog entry on a form anytime the assigned group 
changes.

I wanted to get opinions on the best way to accomplish this.

I was thinking you would use a filter with a "Run If" like:   TR.Assigned Group 
!= $NULL$   AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$

But I wasn't sure if this would be the best way. I thought I remember seeing 
this on the list before, but I didn't have any luck searching for it.

Andy L. Mayfield
Sr. SCADA Operation Center Technician
Alabama Power Company
Office: 205-226-1805
Cell: 205-288-9140
SoLinc: 10*19140

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Re: Require Worklog Change

2011-03-23 Thread Mayfield, Andy L.
Thank you for the responses. I can see there are several ways to skin this cat. 

With the luck I've been having lately, I think I'll try the bullet proof method.


Thanks All.

Andy L. Mayfield
Sr. SCADA Operation Center Technician
Alabama Power Company
Office: 205-226-1805
Cell: 205-288-9140
SoLinc: 10*19140 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rabi Tripathi
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Require Worklog Change

Andy, 
Most people would write it like you have, but you will find many people on the 
ARSLIST including me, who prefer something like this:

Assigned Group != DB.Assigned Group
   AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$

Reliance on TR value assumes the update came from a manual save from Windows or 
Browser client using the built-in Save button/menu choice (as opposed to from a 
record displayed on a dialog window and an Active Link  push field action; or 
from an API program or Push Field filter action triggered from another 
record/transaction). True most of the time for most setups, so you might get 
away with it. But it can cause trouble, so write it the above way, if you want 
it "bullet proof". I do not wish to start a long thread on this topic. It has 
been talked to death in the past, but I can elaborate it for you, if you wish.

Note that I left the TR alone for WorkLog field, because it, I am assuming, is 
a "diary" type of field that is treated differently by active links and 
filters. I think TR prefix should work for this field.





--- On Wed, 3/16/11, Mayfield, Andy L.  wrote:

> From: Mayfield, Andy L. 
> Subject: Require Worklog Change
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 9:30 AM
> I would like to force a worklog entry
> on a form anytime the assigned group changes.
> 
> I wanted to get opinions on the best way to accomplish
> this.
> 
> I was thinking you would use a filter with a "Run If"
> like:   TR.Assigned Group !=
> $NULL$   AND  TR.Worklog = $NULL$
> 
> But I wasn't sure if this would be the best way. I thought
> I remember seeing this on the list before, but I didn't have
> any luck searching for it.
> 
> Andy L. Mayfield
> Sr. SCADA Operation Center Technician
> Alabama Power Company
> Office: 205-226-1805
> Cell: 205-288-9140
> SoLinc: 10*19140
> 
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