Server Sizing Guidance ... Urgent

2008-01-06 Thread Naveen Kaushik

Hi Lists,

 

I need an urgent help regarding remedy server's sizing.

 

We need to implement IM, PM, CM and SLM modules and there are
significant customizations in IM and CM modules. Along with that the
CMDB will be significantly customized to cater to above four modules.

 

Also the AIE integration with CMDB to populate it from 3 to 5 discovery
tools and ARDBC integration with AD are in scope.

 

Also 300+ Concurrent users will be using the ITSM modules on first go
live. 

 

The environment is Windows 2003 EE SP 2, SQL Server 2005 EE, ITSM 7.0.2
and CMDB 2.1.

 

I am urgently looking for a document/theory/calculation matrix which can
guide me to give the hardware requirements (Most Significant is PRIMARY
MEMORY) for a QA and Production Server on Virtualized environment.

 

There will be 6 boxes on a big virtualized box and there will be three
pair that will act as Database, Web and Application server for QA and
Production environment.

 

The knowledge I have is:

 

RAM :- 2 GB for AR Server + 1 GB for Mid-tier + 2 GB for each Major ITSM
module (from ARS Docs), but I need plenty of FACTS and INFORMATION to
give a concrete base for asking the Hardware which can cater my
requirements and satisfy a really tough customer.

 

After all my searches now I rely on the vast experience of this list to
give some pointers or some guide.

 

Please help!

 

Thanks in advance

 

Regards

Naveen Kaushik



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Re: Server Sizing Guidance ... Urgent

2008-01-06 Thread Joe D'Souza
With that kind of configuration I would go with at least 3 servers in a
server group - considering you have at least 300+ concurrent users. Each
single instance with at least 4 GB RAM, an initial data file size of at
least 1 GB and a log size of about the same..

With that being said, your site is a better candidate for a UNIX operating
system instead of Windows. When it comes to large volume users and high
volume transactions, I'm not quite that confident about Windows.. There may
be a few who would disagree with me as yes there are sites out there
handling pretty high transaction volumes on Windows using MS-SQL.

If you are having virtualized environment, I'd like to warn you about
performance issues I have faced on VMWare where the instances didn't get the
necessary horse power needed to run the applications (almost a similar
environment like you mention).. And recently have considered standalone
servers instead of virtual servers running on VMWare..

Hope this helps...

Joe

PS: In actual practice the minimum recommended RAM for the AR Server and
apps seldom work and maybe ok for demo environments.. go almost double the
documented recommendations..
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  Hi Lists,



  I need an urgent help regarding remedy server’s sizing.



  We need to implement IM, PM, CM and SLM modules and there are significant
customizations in IM and CM modules. Along with that the CMDB will be
significantly customized to cater to above four modules.



  Also the AIE integration with CMDB to populate it from 3 to 5 discovery
tools and ARDBC integration with AD are in scope.



  Also 300+ Concurrent users will be using the ITSM modules on first go
live.



  The environment is Windows 2003 EE SP 2, SQL Server 2005 EE, ITSM 7.0.2
and CMDB 2.1.



  I am urgently looking for a document/theory/calculation matrix which can
guide me to give the hardware requirements (Most Significant is PRIMARY
MEMORY) for a QA and Production Server on Virtualized environment.



  There will be 6 boxes on a big virtualized box and there will be three
pair that will act as Database, Web and Application server for QA and
Production environment.



  The knowledge I have is:



  RAM :- 2 GB for AR Server + 1 GB for Mid-tier + 2 GB for each Major ITSM
module (from ARS Docs), but I need plenty of FACTS and INFORMATION to give a
concrete base for asking the Hardware which can cater my requirements and
satisfy a really tough customer.



  After all my searches now I rely on the vast experience of this list to
give some pointers or some guide.



  Please help!



  Thanks in advance



  Regards

  Naveen Kaushik

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Re: Server Sizing Guidance ... Urgent

2008-01-07 Thread john rosquist
Joe's commets mirror my experience, but with large database and log files. 2GB+ 
minimums. 


64 bit OS do not seem to yield positive results with remedy.  Unix/Linux does 
seem to process, scale, or respond better, if you can support them.

Ensuring the database has enough RAM is critical. More so, is that the physical 
database design does not have any bottlenects.  At one place I worked, all the 
databased had a shared filesystem and it eventually crippled the systems during 
backups.

Ars Server memory usage is also impacted by the number of fast, list and 
private threads you run.  Read how this memory allocation is determined and 
account for it in you memory calculations. 

Modern virtual environments require *More* resources but provide some amazing 
options. 

You can spread AIE load over non-remedy servers, if that helps, to manage 
resources better.

John Rosquist
Windward



- Original Message 
From: Joe D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 2:03:10 AM
Subject: Re: Server Sizing Guidance ... Urgent

** 
With that kind of configuration I would go with at least 3 servers in a server 
group - considering you have at least 300+ concurrent users. Each single 
instance with at least 4 GB RAM, an initial data file size of at least 1 GB and 
a log size of about the same..
 
With that being said, your site is a better candidate for a UNIX operating 
system instead of Windows. When it comes to large volume users and high volume 
transactions, I'm not quite that confident about Windows.. There may be a few 
who would disagree with me as yes there are sites out there handling pretty 
high transaction volumes on Windows using MS-SQL.
 
If you are having virtualized environment, I'd like to warn you about 
performance issues I have faced on VMWare where the instances didn't get the 
necessary horse power needed to run the applications (almost a similar 
environment like you mention).. And recently have considered standalone servers 
instead of virtual servers running on VMWare..
 
Hope this helps...
 
Joe
 
PS: In actual practice the minimum recommended RAM for the AR Server and apps 
seldom work and maybe ok for demo environments.. go almost double the 
documented recommendations..
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of Naveen Kaushik
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Server Sizing Guidance ... Urgent
Importance: High


** 
Hi Lists,
 
I need an urgent help regarding remedy server’s sizing.
 
We need to implement IM, PM, CM and SLM modules and there are significant 
customizations in IM and CM modules. Along with that the CMDB will be 
significantly customized to cater to above four modules.
 
Also the AIE integration with CMDB to populate it from 3 to 5 discovery tools 
and ARDBC integration with AD are in scope.
 
Also 300+ Concurrent users will be using the ITSM modules on first go live. 
 
The environment is Windows 2003 EE SP 2, SQL Server 2005 EE, ITSM 7.0.2 and 
CMDB 2.1.
 
I am urgently looking for a document/theory/calculation matrix which can guide 
me to give the hardware requirements (Most Significant is PRIMARY MEMORY) for a 
QA and Production Server on Virtualized environment.
 
There will be 6 boxes on a big virtualized box and there will be three pair 
that will act as Database, Web and Application server for QA and Production 
environment.
 
The knowledge I have is:
 
RAM :- 2 GB for AR Server + 1 GB for Mid-tier + 2 GB for each Major ITSM module 
(from ARS Docs), but I need plenty of FACTS and INFORMATION to give a concrete 
base for asking the Hardware which can cater my requirements and satisfy a 
really tough customer.
 
After all my searches now I rely on the vast experience of this list to give 
some pointers or some guide.
 
Please help!
 
Thanks in advance
 
Regards
Naveen Kaushik
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