Re: Standalone CMDB

2012-02-22 Thread Butera, Joseph
We extended the CMDB for one custom application. I recall the need for the user 
interface form to be a self-join of the target CMDB table rather than a view of 
the target table. Changes applied by Class Manager alters views of target 
tables (at least in did several years ago.)

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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

**
Not many issues with putting a custom app into Atrium CMDB.

Watch for issues around multi-tenancy if you are going to be using MT.
Ensure that you have permissions set up and that multi-tenancy is working 
correctly before you attempt to extend the CMDB with forms or new attributes.

lj

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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:30 AM
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Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

**
I assume to mean a custom Remedy app?

If so then I’ve done this a couple of times but each time the CMDB system had 
Remedy Asset Management sat on top.

The two systems were separate so I added a tab to the bespoke helpdesk that 
showed the related CI’s and invoked the standard CI search functionality from a 
button.
As long as the users have logins to both systems (with the same password) you 
can use active links quite effectively for this.

I don’t remember any significant difficulties but:

-  remember that the underlying CMDB forms are ugly (you’ll see the 
instanceid, etc and you’ll be able to break things by modifying things like the 
reconciliationidentity)

-  you may need to add permissions to the CMDB as, otb, you can only 
get at things as a Remedy admin

-  you still need to have a CMDB license

-  you’ll still need AR licenses to modify CI’s

Cheers

Peter



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Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

**

I am considering hanging the OOTB CMDB Application off a custom application. I 
am looking for advice and/or pitfalls of doing this. I know there are people 
that have done this and I'd like to find out any Gotcha's before I do mine.



Gordon



From: "John Sundberg" 
mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:51:46 AM
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

** Do you mean - creating your own CMDB ???

Or using an OOTB CMDB with a custom app?

And if OOTB CMDB - which one/vendor???

Just wondering …


-John
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Frank 
mailto:gjj...@comcast.net>> wrote:
**

Hello ARSLIST,



Has anyone implemented a standalone CMDB off a custom application?



I'm looking for documentation of Best Practices or pitfalls to watch out for 
when tying the custom forms and CMDB Application together.



If not much doc, then let me know your experiences.



Thanks up front,



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Re: Standalone CMDB

2012-02-20 Thread Leonard Johnson
Not many issues with putting a custom app into Atrium CMDB.  

 

Watch for issues around multi-tenancy if you are going to be using MT.

Ensure that you have permissions set up and that multi-tenancy is working 
correctly before you attempt to extend the CMDB with forms or new attributes.

 

lj

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:30 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

 

** 

I assume to mean a custom Remedy app?

 

If so then I’ve done this a couple of times but each time the CMDB system had 
Remedy Asset Management sat on top.

 

The two systems were separate so I added a tab to the bespoke helpdesk that 
showed the related CI’s and invoked the standard CI search functionality from a 
button.

As long as the users have logins to both systems (with the same password) you 
can use active links quite effectively for this.

 

I don’t remember any significant difficulties but:

-  remember that the underlying CMDB forms are ugly (you’ll see the 
instanceid, etc and you’ll be able to break things by modifying things like the 
reconciliationidentity)

-  you may need to add permissions to the CMDB as, otb, you can only 
get at things as a Remedy admin

-  you still need to have a CMDB license

-  you’ll still need AR licenses to modify CI’s

 

Cheers

 

Peter

 

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gordon Frank
Sent: 20 February 2012 15:00
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

 

** 

I am considering hanging the OOTB CMDB Application off a custom application. I 
am looking for advice and/or pitfalls of doing this. I know there are people 
that have done this and I'd like to find out any Gotcha's before I do mine.

 

Gordon

  _  

From: "John Sundberg" 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:51:46 AM
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

** Do you mean - creating your own CMDB ???

 

Or using an OOTB CMDB with a custom app?

 

And if OOTB CMDB - which one/vendor???

 

Just wondering …

 

 

-John

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Frank  wrote:

** 

Hello ARSLIST,

 

Has anyone implemented a standalone CMDB off a custom application?

 

I'm looking for documentation of Best Practices or pitfalls to watch out for 
when tying the custom forms and CMDB Application together.

 

If not much doc, then let me know your experiences.

 

Thanks up front,

 

Gordon M. Frank

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235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B
St. Paul, MN 55101
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(651) 247-6766-cell
(651) 695-8577-fax
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Re: Standalone CMDB

2012-02-20 Thread Peter Romain
I assume to mean a custom Remedy app?

 

If so then I’ve done this a couple of times but each time the CMDB system had 
Remedy Asset Management sat on top.

 

The two systems were separate so I added a tab to the bespoke helpdesk that 
showed the related CI’s and invoked the standard CI search functionality from a 
button.

As long as the users have logins to both systems (with the same password) you 
can use active links quite effectively for this.

 

I don’t remember any significant difficulties but:

-  remember that the underlying CMDB forms are ugly (you’ll see the 
instanceid, etc and you’ll be able to break things by modifying things like the 
reconciliationidentity)

-  you may need to add permissions to the CMDB as, otb, you can only 
get at things as a Remedy admin

-  you still need to have a CMDB license

-  you’ll still need AR licenses to modify CI’s

 

Cheers

 

Peter

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Gordon Frank
Sent: 20 February 2012 15:00
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

 

** 

I am considering hanging the OOTB CMDB Application off a custom application. I 
am looking for advice and/or pitfalls of doing this. I know there are people 
that have done this and I'd like to find out any Gotcha's before I do mine.

 

Gordon

  _  

From: "John Sundberg" 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:51:46 AM
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB

** Do you mean - creating your own CMDB ???

 

Or using an OOTB CMDB with a custom app?

 

And if OOTB CMDB - which one/vendor???

 

Just wondering …

 

 

-John

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Frank  wrote:

** 

Hello ARSLIST,

 

Has anyone implemented a standalone CMDB off a custom application?

 

I'm looking for documentation of Best Practices or pitfalls to watch out for 
when tying the custom forms and CMDB Application together.

 

If not much doc, then let me know your experiences.

 

Thanks up front,

 

Gordon M. Frank

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Answers Are"_





 

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John David Sundberg
235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B
St. Paul, MN 55101
(651) 556-0930-work
(651) 247-6766-cell
(651) 695-8577-fax
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com

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Re: Standalone CMDB

2012-02-20 Thread Gordon Frank


I am considering hanging the OOTB CMDB Application off a custom application. I 
am looking for advice and/or pitfalls of doing this. I know there are people 
that have done this and I'd like to find out any Gotcha's before I do mine. 



Gordon 



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From: "John Sundberg"  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:51:46 AM 
Subject: Re: Standalone CMDB 

** Do you mean - creating your own CMDB ??? 


Or using an OOTB CMDB with a custom app? 


And if OOTB CMDB - which one/vendor??? 


Just wondering … 




-John 


On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Frank < gjj...@comcast.net > wrote: 


** 



Hello ARSLIST, 

  

Has anyone implemented a standalone CMDB off a custom application? 

  

I'm looking for documentation of Best Practices or pitfalls to watch out for 
when tying the custom forms and CMDB Application together. 

  

If not much doc, then let me know your experiences. 

  

Thanks up front, 

  

Gordon M. Frank 
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Re: Standalone CMDB

2012-02-20 Thread John Sundberg
Do you mean - creating your own CMDB ???

Or using an OOTB CMDB with a custom app?

And if OOTB CMDB - which one/vendor???

Just wondering …


-John

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Gordon Frank  wrote:

> **
>
> Hello ARSLIST,
>
>
>
> Has anyone implemented a standalone CMDB off a custom application?
>
>
>
> I'm looking for documentation of Best Practices or pitfalls to watch out
> for when tying the custom forms and CMDB Application together.
>
>
>
> If not much doc, then let me know your experiences.
>
>
>
> Thanks up front,
>
>
>
> Gordon M. Frank
> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_




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St. Paul, MN 55101
(651) 556-0930-work
(651) 247-6766-cell
(651) 695-8577-fax
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com

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Standalone CMDB

2012-02-20 Thread Gordon Frank


Hello ARSLIST, 



Has anyone implemented a standalone CMDB off a custom application? 



I'm looking for documentation of Best Practices or pitfalls to watch out for 
when tying the custom forms  and CMDB Application together. 



If not much doc, then let me know your experiences. 



Thanks up front, 



Gordon M. Frank 

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