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Joe, That has my vote. Living about 35 minutes west of Atlantic City would guarantee my attending. I’d pay the registration fee myself. There are some great Coastal Plains wineries in the area. And the New Jersey Motor Sport Park is not far away in Millville, NJ. For golfers there the Seaview Golf resort. Thank you, --- John J. Reiser Remedy Developer/Administrator Senior Software Development Analyst Lockheed Martin - MS2 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:23 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The only place around New Jersey that I can think of that has a fairly city like infrastructure and yet is not too crowded is Atlantic City - which has a large number of hotels at affordable rates and yet quite luxurious. Can't think of any other location in New Jersey that might be of special interest to those travelling from abroad or from the other coasts of USA and has plenty of hotels in close proximity of each other.. Joe From: pritch pri...@ptd.netmailto:pri...@ptd.net To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Ah - now there's a thought. We can all do a fundraiser by walking / running / biking from wherever we are to where the RUG is! Just that some of us will need to start sooner. Actually when you set up an event like this you're never going to please everyone so the earlier posts are correct about finding a venue that is easily accessible for most of the audience based on prior years, etc... The only thing I'd venture to say is California and Washington are not the only areas with nice hotels and great airports. Someone mentioned maybe Chicago in 2014 - that's fairly mid-country. Heck, their even going to try and hold the Super Bowl in an open stadium in New Jersey in 2014, so folks can sometimes go outside the box to try different venues. - Original Message - From: Natalie K Stroud nkst...@sandia.govmailto:nkst...@sandia.gov To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:37:52 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Well, those folks can take a train, bus, motorcycle, or automobile if they don't care to fly. Or, I suppose, depending on where they're coming from, walk, run, bike, or sail. They might even be able to find some other Listers who don't want to fly for whatever reason to caravan with. (ooh...road trip!!) Seems to me that if a person *really* wants to go, there are plenty of possible options for getting to the conference. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.govmailto:nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:03 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.commailto:dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement
The only place around New Jersey that I can think of that has a fairly city like infrastructure and yet is not too crowded is Atlantic City - which has a large number of hotels at affordable rates and yet quite luxurious. Can't think of any other location in New Jersey that might be of special interest to those travelling from abroad or from the other coasts of USA and has plenty of hotels in close proximity of each other.. Joe From: pritch pri...@ptd.net To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Ah - now there's a thought. We can all do a fundraiser by walking / running / biking from wherever we are to where the RUG is! Just that some of us will need to start sooner. Actually when you set up an event like this you're never going to please everyone so the earlier posts are correct about finding a venue that is easily accessible for most of the audience based on prior years, etc... The only thing I'd venture to say is California and Washington are not the only areas with nice hotels and great airports. Someone mentioned maybe Chicago in 2014 - that's fairly mid-country. Heck, their even going to try and hold the Super Bowl in an open stadium in New Jersey in 2014, so folks can sometimes go outside the box to try different venues. - Original Message - From: Natalie K Stroud nkst...@sandia.gov To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:37:52 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Well, those folks can take a train, bus, motorcycle, or automobile if they don't care to fly. Or, I suppose, depending on where they're coming from, walk, run, bike, or sail. They might even be able to find some other Listers who don't want to fly for whatever reason to caravan with. (ooh...road trip!!) Seems to me that if a person *really* wants to go, there are plenty of possible options for getting to the conference. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:03 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April
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** Wt ^_^On 06 Mar, 2013,at 12:50 PM, d...@wwrug.com wrote:The web site will be ready soonish.Registration will open April 1st or before.The Call for Papers is on April 1stWhy the rush? It is just around the corner![okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow].WWRUG13Fairmont San Jose[San Jose, California, USA]Sept 29th through Oct. 4thKeynotes, special events etc. content, products covered,TBA as soon as we can.The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp.Four companies have created them, but they all were and will bethe best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are inThe BMC - Remedy - ITSM World.This is the 5th time that we have had the privilege to create this,And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year.We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valleyand a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy.DanielDaniel BloomChairman, WWRUG13_ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_**_ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_
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Great, we will be there! Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011) Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11/12): * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing. * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs. Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se. Wt ^_^ On 06 Mar, 2013,at 12:50 PM, d...@wwrug.com wrote: The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29th through Oct. 4th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ** ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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I don't know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.comhttp://www.hp.com/ [HP_logo] Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29th through Oct. 4th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years inline: image003.jpg
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Wt wt! On Mar 6, 2013 4:05 AM, laurent matheo lm...@me.com wrote: ** Wt ^_^ On 06 Mar, 2013,at 12:50 PM, d...@wwrug.com wrote: The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29th through Oct. 4th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ** _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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Chris, I'm not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don't know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.commailto:christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.comhttp://www.hp.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01CE1A55.CFA40BA0] Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.commailto:d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29th through Oct. 4th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years inline: image001.jpg
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I agree - what's wrong with Kansas City or there abouts? - Original Message - From: Christopher Pruitt (Bank of America Account) christopher.pru...@hp.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:01:25 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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Then they can drive or take the Amtrak? :) My opinion is that San Jose makes good sense because since BMC is the premier sponsor of the WWRUG, we are closer to their engineering team and they can have a larger presence at the conference. On the east coast, the DC area is ideal because of the huge government presence and the Remedy folks there usually have a tough time securing funding for a cross country trip to a conference. I would hope that as some of the midwest states and cities in Texas become larger tech hubs, we may see a RUG there in the future. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:02 AM, pritch pri...@ptd.net wrote: What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years -- *Tauf Chowdhury * ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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Just out of interest, why not pick out 5 - 8 cities distributed across the continent and have a vote from the list members to see just what everyone's preference might be? From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:10 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Then they can drive or take the Amtrak? :) My opinion is that San Jose makes good sense because since BMC is the premier sponsor of the WWRUG, we are closer to their engineering team and they can have a larger presence at the conference. On the east coast, the DC area is ideal because of the huge government presence and the Remedy folks there usually have a tough time securing funding for a cross country trip to a conference. I would hope that as some of the midwest states and cities in Texas become larger tech hubs, we may see a RUG there in the future. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:02 AM, pritch pri...@ptd.netmailto:pri...@ptd.net wrote: What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.commailto:dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I'm not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don't know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.commailto:christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.comhttp://www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.commailto:d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.orghttp://www.arslist.org Where
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Historically, going back to the first RUG in 1993, it has indeed always been east coast or west coast. In fact for the first 6 years at least (I think? Someone who has a list of them all can answer this) I think, were all in the Bay Area. Certainly 8 of the first 10. The only times it has been off the West coast were Disneyland (or DisneyWorld whichever is in Florida) and Washington DC. Next: As for votes we actually did something similar back in 2010 for choosing future cities, and asked attendees for suggestions. First we did a short list of suitable cities out of what the attendees suggested, then had votes on which work best, then we did the actual venue. Some of the factors considered (at least by me and the WWRUG Board): Availability of Venues (and the requirements are more restrictive than you might think and I can only plan a year ahead not four or five) Direct flights from as many locations as possible. How easy is it for BMC to send as many Remedy technical people as possible (one of the reasons for the return to San Jose) Weather - We try to pick somewhere that weather will affect us as little as possible. This can change based on when the conference is held, however, we decided to stick to a consistent timeframe unlike the RUGs of past. Why San Jose not Houston? A combination of a great experience at the Fairmont, a tie in the votes for the two cities, 6 months to get the conference together, better for Remedy technical people The Venues, flights, timezone same as California etc. was a huge factor when we scrambled to create the first WWRUG in 2009. Las Vegas for direct flights is as good as it gets. Please note that if WWRUG continues the plan is Chicago for 2014, I hope that counts as central. Happy to chat with folks at WWRUG13 about what goes into creating a conference; it makes a 1200 line project plan for an Enterprise ITSM system look easy/simple/straight forward. Daniel ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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Well, those folks can take a train, bus, motorcycle, or automobile if they don't care to fly. Or, I suppose, depending on where they're coming from, walk, run, bike, or sail. They might even be able to find some other Listers who don't want to fly for whatever reason to caravan with. (ooh...road trip!!) Seems to me that if a person *really* wants to go, there are plenty of possible options for getting to the conference. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:03 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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Choices have consequences. Choosing not to fly means missing things that flying allows. Like this, perhaps. Rick On Mar 6, 2013 8:38 AM, Stroud, Natalie K nkst...@sandia.gov wrote: Well, those folks can take a train, bus, motorcycle, or automobile if they don't care to fly. Or, I suppose, depending on where they're coming from, walk, run, bike, or sail. They might even be able to find some other Listers who don't want to fly for whatever reason to caravan with. (ooh...road trip!!) Seems to me that if a person *really* wants to go, there are plenty of possible options for getting to the conference. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:03 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where
Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement
Here is an idea that may help everyone have a chance to be heard. I think that just about every area has a local RUG of some sort. Why don't these local groups try to get a representative involved with the WWRUG board? Not saying that the board needs to grow but the representatives could offer suggestions from their constituents and then possibly even help to lighten the load of the guys and gals that are jumping through hoops to make this function happen. Of course that may already be occurring and I have just missed the memo. Tommy Morris Senior Remedy Developer RSTS Technical Consultant II Office# 817-415-2510 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Historically, going back to the first RUG in 1993, it has indeed always been east coast or west coast. In fact for the first 6 years at least (I think? Someone who has a list of them all can answer this) I think, were all in the Bay Area. Certainly 8 of the first 10. The only times it has been off the West coast were Disneyland (or DisneyWorld whichever is in Florida) and Washington DC. Next: As for votes we actually did something similar back in 2010 for choosing future cities, and asked attendees for suggestions. First we did a short list of suitable cities out of what the attendees suggested, then had votes on which work best, then we did the actual venue. Some of the factors considered (at least by me and the WWRUG Board): Availability of Venues (and the requirements are more restrictive than you might think and I can only plan a year ahead not four or five) Direct flights from as many locations as possible. How easy is it for BMC to send as many Remedy technical people as possible (one of the reasons for the return to San Jose) Weather - We try to pick somewhere that weather will affect us as little as possible. This can change based on when the conference is held, however, we decided to stick to a consistent timeframe unlike the RUGs of past. Why San Jose not Houston? A combination of a great experience at the Fairmont, a tie in the votes for the two cities, 6 months to get the conference together, better for Remedy technical people The Venues, flights, timezone same as California etc. was a huge factor when we scrambled to create the first WWRUG in 2009. Las Vegas for direct flights is as good as it gets. Please note that if WWRUG continues the plan is Chicago for 2014, I hope that counts as central. Happy to chat with folks at WWRUG13 about what goes into creating a conference; it makes a 1200 line project plan for an Enterprise ITSM system look easy/simple/straight forward. Daniel ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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I might *really* want to go but my management might *really* be constrained by a gov't *budget cut*. -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:38 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Well, those folks can take a train, bus, motorcycle, or automobile if they don't care to fly. Or, I suppose, depending on where they're coming from, walk, run, bike, or sail. They might even be able to find some other Listers who don't want to fly for whatever reason to caravan with. (ooh...road trip!!) Seems to me that if a person *really* wants to go, there are plenty of possible options for getting to the conference. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:03 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement What about those that choose not to fly? - Original Message - From: David Shellman dave.shell...@te.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** Chris, I’m not sure I completely understand your concern. For me flights from the East Coast to San Jose or San Francisco are a small fraction of the cost to attend the conference. In turn there are many folks coming in from out of country and flying into a major airport on the East or West coast reduces costs for them and is more convenient. I believe Houston was looked at as a possibility. Yet there were limitations that caused it to be dropped from consideration. Dave From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:01 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** I don’t know but maybe it is me, but it seems like every year WWRUG is either on the East Coast or West Coast and never located more central in the US. Not sure what the reason for this is but it makes it hard for many in the middle of the country to attend this most valuable event. Sorry for the rant but just had to ask the question. Why is this? Christopher Pruitt Business Consulting III Remedy Developer BMC Certified Administrator: BMC Remedy AR System 7.6.04 HP Enterprises Services christopher.pru...@hp.com www.hp.com HP_logo Confidentiality Notice: This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the sole use of the entity or individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee for this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, or dissemination of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately destroy, erase, or discard this message. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of d...@wwrug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ADV: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement ** The web site will be ready soonish. Registration will open April 1 st or before. The Call for Papers is on April 1 st Why the rush? It is just around the corner! [okay, ½ a year but it feels like tomorrow]. WWRUG13 Fairmont San Jose [San Jose, California, USA] Sept 29 th through Oct. 4 th Keynotes, special events etc. content, products covered, TBA as soon as we can. The first RUG event was in 1993, back in the days of Remedy Corp. Four companies have created them, but they all were and will be the best value that training and conference dollars can buy if you are in The BMC - Remedy - ITSM World. This is the 5 th time that we have had the privilege to create this, And BMC of course is our Cornerstone Sponsor again this year. We look forward to welcoming you once again to Silicon Valley and a five day immersion course in all things BMC Remedy. Daniel Daniel Bloom Chairman, WWRUG13 _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ _ARSlist: Where the Answers Are and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
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And I for one want to thank you and the board for all the work you do. It can't be an easy job. So while the event may (or may not) be at the location of my choice, I didn't have to do the leg work to secure it and I'm just thankful that we have a place to go to meet, share and learn. As a general note: If you are constrained by **budget**, the flight (or general travel) cost is generally a cheaper expense and thus is the least of your concerns. If your business/edu/gov entity can't afford the flight, they almost certainly can't afford the lodging and conference fees. So at that point, it really doesn't matter where the event is. Tim -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Historically, going back to the first RUG in 1993, it has indeed always been east coast or west coast. In fact for the first 6 years at least (I think? Someone who has a list of them all can answer this) I think, were all in the Bay Area. Certainly 8 of the first 10. The only times it has been off the West coast were Disneyland (or DisneyWorld whichever is in Florida) and Washington DC. Next: As for votes we actually did something similar back in 2010 for choosing future cities, and asked attendees for suggestions. First we did a short list of suitable cities out of what the attendees suggested, then had votes on which work best, then we did the actual venue. Some of the factors considered (at least by me and the WWRUG Board): Availability of Venues (and the requirements are more restrictive than you might think and I can only plan a year ahead not four or five) Direct flights from as many locations as possible. How easy is it for BMC to send as many Remedy technical people as possible (one of the reasons for the return to San Jose) Weather - We try to pick somewhere that weather will affect us as little as possible. This can change based on when the conference is held, however, we decided to stick to a consistent timeframe unlike the RUGs of past. Why San Jose not Houston? A combination of a great experience at the Fairmont, a tie in the votes for the two cities, 6 months to get the conference together, better for Remedy technical people The Venues, flights, timezone same as California etc. was a huge factor when we scrambled to create the first WWRUG in 2009. Las Vegas for direct flights is as good as it gets. Please note that if WWRUG continues the plan is Chicago for 2014, I hope that counts as central. Happy to chat with folks at WWRUG13 about what goes into creating a conference; it makes a 1200 line project plan for an Enterprise ITSM system look easy/simple/straight forward. Daniel ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement
Sorry I can't say at this time. The details concerning discounts and procedures to submit should be given with the call for papers on April 1st. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:46 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Out of curiosity, Dave, can you give an estimate for about how much the conference fees would be reduced? Don't worry, I won't hold you to that exact number, I'm just looking for a ballpark estimate. Also, is there someplace the discount amount for presenters will eventually be published? I am not aware of any local RUG groups here in the Albuquerque area I could use in the way you did, but I've involved in a Toastmasters club here locally and for about the last 3.5 years and certainly feel confident enough to entertain the idea of presenting, though my TM family of course won't be able to speak to the technical accuracy of my talk. I just recently switched from a focus on testing to a focus on building Analytics reports and would consider maybe giving a talk on tips and tricks in Analytics, covering everything from what information do you include on the report to tricks you can do with the scheduler to How do I get my report to do X types of things. About half a dozen things come to mind just off of the top of my head, and I've only been at this for a couple of months. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Shellman, David Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:22 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement To further lessen budget constraints, step out of your comfort zone and be a presenter. You still have to cover hotel costs and costs of getting there but conference fees are generally lessened. I did a presentation at RUG in San Francisco many years ago. To prep for the presentation, I gave it at WARUG a few months before. So there were several benefits, my conference costs were lower, a local User Group was able to hear the presentation, the presentation was well received at RUG and good for the company I work for. In addition I made a long lasting friendship with Misi and others. Now is a good time to start thinking about a topic and develop it. There will be announcement for presentation papers in the not too distant future. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement And I for one want to thank you and the board for all the work you do. It can't be an easy job. So while the event may (or may not) be at the location of my choice, I didn't have to do the leg work to secure it and I'm just thankful that we have a place to go to meet, share and learn. As a general note: If you are constrained by **budget**, the flight (or general travel) cost is generally a cheaper expense and thus is the least of your concerns. If your business/edu/gov entity can't afford the flight, they almost certainly can't afford the lodging and conference fees. So at that point, it really doesn't matter where the event is. Tim -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Historically, going back to the first RUG in 1993, it has indeed always been east coast or west coast. In fact for the first 6 years at least (I think? Someone who has a list of them all can answer this) I think, were all in the Bay Area. Certainly 8 of the first 10. The only times it has been off the West coast were Disneyland (or DisneyWorld whichever is in Florida) and Washington DC. Next: As for votes we actually did something similar back in 2010 for choosing future cities, and asked attendees for suggestions. First we did a short list of suitable cities out of what the attendees suggested, then had votes on which work best, then we did the actual venue. Some of the factors considered (at least by me and the WWRUG Board): Availability of Venues (and the requirements are more restrictive than you might think and I can only plan a year ahead not four or five) Direct flights from as many locations as possible. How easy is it for BMC to send as many Remedy technical people as possible (one of the reasons for the return to San Jose) Weather - We try to pick somewhere that weather
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement
Natalie, I don't speak for anyone on the RUG committee, nor do I speak for future facing decisions, but I can tell you that last year they waived conf fees altogether for presenters, which is how I was finally able to swing my first ever national rug visit. I got my employer to pay my time as well as travel and lodging, I walked away with no cost for myself personally :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:46 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Out of curiosity, Dave, can you give an estimate for about how much the conference fees would be reduced? Don't worry, I won't hold you to that exact number, I'm just looking for a ballpark estimate. Also, is there someplace the discount amount for presenters will eventually be published? I am not aware of any local RUG groups here in the Albuquerque area I could use in the way you did, but I've involved in a Toastmasters club here locally and for about the last 3.5 years and certainly feel confident enough to entertain the idea of presenting, though my TM family of course won't be able to speak to the technical accuracy of my talk. I just recently switched from a focus on testing to a focus on building Analytics reports and would consider maybe giving a talk on tips and tricks in Analytics, covering everything from what information do you include on the report to tricks you can do with the scheduler to How do I get my report to do X types of things. About half a dozen things come to mind just off of the top of my head, and I've only been at this for a couple of months. Natalie Stroud SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories ARS-ITSM Tester Albuquerque, NM USA nkst...@sandia.gov ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008 -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Shellman, David Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:22 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement To further lessen budget constraints, step out of your comfort zone and be a presenter. You still have to cover hotel costs and costs of getting there but conference fees are generally lessened. I did a presentation at RUG in San Francisco many years ago. To prep for the presentation, I gave it at WARUG a few months before. So there were several benefits, my conference costs were lower, a local User Group was able to hear the presentation, the presentation was well received at RUG and good for the company I work for. In addition I made a long lasting friendship with Misi and others. Now is a good time to start thinking about a topic and develop it. There will be announcement for presentation papers in the not too distant future. Dave -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:05 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement And I for one want to thank you and the board for all the work you do. It can't be an easy job. So while the event may (or may not) be at the location of my choice, I didn't have to do the leg work to secure it and I'm just thankful that we have a place to go to meet, share and learn. As a general note: If you are constrained by **budget**, the flight (or general travel) cost is generally a cheaper expense and thus is the least of your concerns. If your business/edu/gov entity can't afford the flight, they almost certainly can't afford the lodging and conference fees. So at that point, it really doesn't matter where the event is. Tim -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:28 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: WWRUG13 Date and Location Announcement Historically, going back to the first RUG in 1993, it has indeed always been east coast or west coast. In fact for the first 6 years at least (I think? Someone who has a list of them all can answer this) I think, were all in the Bay Area. Certainly 8 of the first 10. The only times it has been off the West coast were Disneyland (or DisneyWorld whichever is in Florida) and Washington DC. Next: As for votes we actually did something similar back in 2010 for choosing future cities, and asked attendees for suggestions. First we did a short list of suitable cities out of what the attendees suggested, then had votes on which work best, then we did the actual venue. Some of the factors considered (at least by me and the WWRUG Board): Availability of Venues (and the requirements are more restrictive than you might think and I can only plan a year ahead not four or five
