[AsburyPark] Re: Save the Baronet, Fast Lane and Asbury Lanes

2006-07-17 Thread LauraB
Is The Fast Lane still there ?  

I think that greed will overcome saving the beautiful building from 
the past. Its sad because the history will only be in our memories.








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[AsburyPark] Re: Save the Baronet, Fast Lane and Asbury Lanes

2006-07-17 Thread Hinge
Yup, the Fast Lane is still there.
If you want to help make a difference in saving the Fastlane, Asbury Lanes and 
the Baronet, 
make sure you email the council and attend the meeting this coming Wed.

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 Is The Fast Lane still there ?  
 
 I think that greed will overcome saving the beautiful building from 
 the past. Its sad because the history will only be in our memories.








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[AsburyPark] Re: Save the Baronet, Fast Lane and Asbury Lanes

2006-07-17 Thread LauraB
Great
Help is on the way via fans Of Bruce  Bon Jovi.

Here's to saving the history of A.P.
Thanks, Laura

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 Yup, the Fast Lane is still there.
 If you want to help make a difference in saving the Fastlane, Asbury 
Lanes and the Baronet, 
 make sure you email the council and attend the meeting this coming 
Wed.






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[AsburyPark] Re: Do we need to attract more

2006-07-17 Thread Sharon Boone
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I found this post puzzling, when Howard Beach, NY residents, are still
targeting Black Males and killing or beating them to death! It's what 
Blacks called lynching, because they see Black lives as expendable.  
The case you cite, should be blamed on the NY Legislature, for closing 
facilities for the mentally ill, just as Marlboro was closed here.  
Was the doctor who blew his building up, just as mental?
Sharon






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[AsburyPark] Re: Video Broadcasting On The WWW

2006-07-17 Thread vinny
Last time I checked this is a message board for issues with regard to
Asbury Park.  This is not a personal board for advertisements for
people who don't even live in Asbury Park.

If you have a problem with what I am saying, look at the home page for
this group and read the description.

vinny


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[AsburyPark] Re: Video Broadcasting On The WWW

2006-07-17 Thread Hinge
I agree.
Go advertise somewhere else, like craigslist
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 Asbury Park.  This is not a personal board for advertisements for
 people who don't even live in Asbury Park.
 
 If you have a problem with what I am saying, look at the home page for
 this group and read the description.
 
 vinny
 
 
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 Productions. 
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  production and we will do the rest.  Your program will  be online
 for one 
  full week.
   
  If you do not have a camcorder, we can provide you with a rental as at  
  reasonable rate as well.
   
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  _www.lbtv.net_ (http://www.lbtv.net)  
   
  Interested call 732.822.7161.
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[AsburyPark] Larry Fishman is a quest speaker........

2006-07-17 Thread gtscarano212








Paul Vail is coming to the Asbury Park Homeowners Association meeting on Monday night, July 17th at 7:30 at TAKAs. I am recommending that all of the members as well as anyone who would like to know more about what is happening attend the meeting. We are also having Larry Fishman as our guest speaker to discuss redevelopment. 
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[AsburyPark] Did you.....

2006-07-17 Thread gtscarano212



Dan, did you happen to write up a note that AP should be doing a study about the money AP is losing because of the Partners non performance, than paying for a study on how much the Partners will lose if the plan is changedremember the council meeting.Jerry.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Tom Waits on Fourth Ave.

2006-07-17 Thread Heshy
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Thanks for the compliment. Amazing what little cell phone cameras can 
do, if you do it right.

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-17 Thread Tex Hatfield
hinge,
 being relatively new to this board, you should
realize this isthe asbury way. one thing we love to do
is fight amongst ourselves or, at a minimum, bicker.
its part of the beauty of this board. the individuals
here all have a passion for AP, yet retain their
individual viewpoints. there have been some classic
arguments up here, but yo can bet that if any one fell
into a situation where help was needed every single
sleeve would be rolled up in unison. actually, a lot
of the bickering is constructive. in this town, a lot
of things are misrepresented and the open back in
forth here usually bubbles the facts to the surface.
werner could not have been more right when he said:
=
  I suspect you are just repeating bad info that you
heard from others instead of doing your own research.
Asbury Park is a small town and it's easy to discredit
someone or divert attention from the truth by
spreading misinformation.
=
 
anyway, i have always held the belief that a strength
of community can be measured is its ability to
disagree and still come together to share ideas. this
board is clear enough evidence that the community here
is a strong one. too bad we cant get the other 16,950
or so folks in AP up here for real town meetings.

unrelated, are you the infamous hinge? do the names
the wallbangers, the x-men, or secret syde mean
anything to you? if so, you might be interested in a
show at the brighton on wednesday. Quenton Quayle and
Tex Hatfiled will be perorming some of the QQ  the
Hatfield Family Singers greatest hits. In addition,
the entire band will be performing at the Saint next
Tuesday. As you may or may not know, QQ is the latest
alias of one area's most legendary underground social
commentators and madmen. You know him better by the
initials JD.
 

--- Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Say...could you guys stick to the topic you are
 posting in, and take your fighting 
 somewhere private, like email?
 No need to air your private fights here.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You are 100% correct Werner, not surprisingly
 either.
  
  wernerapnj wrote:
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
   mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, s325run@
 wrote:
   
Well at least I got a dialog started here. All
 I have been reading 
   in the past is how
   terrible the new construction is and how long it
 is taking(True). My 
   point is simple. Asbury
   (with some exceptions) has looked liked a war
 zone for a long 
   time. Bringing new
   construction and people can only be an
 improvment and it should create 
   more job
   opportunites for the local residents. I didn't
 mean to create any 
   verbal abuse. I just think
   everyone should appreciate that it will never be
 as good as our 
   memories are.
  
   
  
   It sounds from your post that you have very low
 standards for Asbury 
   Park. I have heard
   the mantra repeatedly - 'at least they're doing
 something', 'something 
   is better then
   nothing', 'we will never be as good as we were',
 etc, etc
  
   Yes construction is good, but it's how that
 construction is directed 
   that makes a good or
   bad project. 3000+ condos will provide little if
 any local employment 
   and will destroy the
   history and cultural heritage of the City.
  
   Construction directed toward rebuilding the
 traditional commercial and 
   tourism land uses
   would serve the City in a much better way. By
 using, instead of 
   abandoning, the City's
   heritage Asbury park could be BETTER then it
 EVER was.
  
   Better econimically, and that is the ultimate
 purpose of 
   redevelopment, to repair a
   community's damaged economy. Instead this City
 is catering to 
   developers for the benefit
   of developers.
  
   Werner
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 


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[AsburyPark] Re: I hope Asbury doesn't lose all of the character that made it special

2006-07-17 Thread Hinge
Well put, and I agree with everything you've said.
If anything, I was more interested in getting Dennis and Werner to stick to the 
topic they 
were commenting in, because they veered pretty far off course.
And yes, it is I, Hinge...although I didn't know I was infamous. I've always 
wanted to be 
that.
I'm quite familiar with QQ, in fact I'm hoping to work with JD and make a video 
for one of 
the songs.
H
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tex Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hinge,
  being relatively new to this board, you should
 realize this isthe asbury way. one thing we love to do
 is fight amongst ourselves or, at a minimum, bicker.
 its part of the beauty of this board. the individuals
 here all have a passion for AP, yet retain their
 individual viewpoints. there have been some classic
 arguments up here, but yo can bet that if any one fell
 into a situation where help was needed every single
 sleeve would be rolled up in unison. actually, a lot
 of the bickering is constructive. in this town, a lot
 of things are misrepresented and the open back in
 forth here usually bubbles the facts to the surface.
 werner could not have been more right when he said:
 =
   I suspect you are just repeating bad info that you
 heard from others instead of doing your own research.
 Asbury Park is a small town and it's easy to discredit
 someone or divert attention from the truth by
 spreading misinformation.
 =
  
 anyway, i have always held the belief that a strength
 of community can be measured is its ability to
 disagree and still come together to share ideas. this
 board is clear enough evidence that the community here
 is a strong one. too bad we cant get the other 16,950
 or so folks in AP up here for real town meetings.
 
 unrelated, are you the infamous hinge? do the names
 the wallbangers, the x-men, or secret syde mean
 anything to you? if so, you might be interested in a
 show at the brighton on wednesday. Quenton Quayle and
 Tex Hatfiled will be perorming some of the QQ  the
 Hatfield Family Singers greatest hits. In addition,
 the entire band will be performing at the Saint next
 Tuesday. As you may or may not know, QQ is the latest
 alias of one area's most legendary underground social
 commentators and madmen. You know him better by the
 initials JD.
  
 
 --- Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Say...could you guys stick to the topic you are
  posting in, and take your fighting 
  somewhere private, like email?
  No need to air your private fights here.
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube
  traderdube@ wrote:
  
   You are 100% correct Werner, not surprisingly
  either.
   
   wernerapnj wrote:
   
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, s325run@
  wrote:

 Well at least I got a dialog started here. All
  I have been reading 
in the past is how
terrible the new construction is and how long it
  is taking(True). My 
point is simple. Asbury
(with some exceptions) has looked liked a war
  zone for a long 
time. Bringing new
construction and people can only be an
  improvment and it should create 
more job
opportunites for the local residents. I didn't
  mean to create any 
verbal abuse. I just think
everyone should appreciate that it will never be
  as good as our 
memories are.
   

   
It sounds from your post that you have very low
  standards for Asbury 
Park. I have heard
the mantra repeatedly - 'at least they're doing
  something', 'something 
is better then
nothing', 'we will never be as good as we were',
  etc, etc
   
Yes construction is good, but it's how that
  construction is directed 
that makes a good or
bad project. 3000+ condos will provide little if
  any local employment 
and will destroy the
history and cultural heritage of the City.
   
Construction directed toward rebuilding the
  traditional commercial and 
tourism land uses
would serve the City in a much better way. By
  using, instead of 
abandoning, the City's
heritage Asbury park could be BETTER then it
  EVER was.
   
Better econimically, and that is the ultimate
  purpose of 
redevelopment, to repair a
community's damaged economy. Instead this City
  is catering to 
developers for the benefit
of developers.
   
Werner
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Bloomberg Unveils Plans to Reduce Homelessness

2006-07-17 Thread dfsavgny
http://tinyurl.com/fcmvl

Homelessness must be dealt with seriously on a county or state level 
instead of foisting the problem on small communities. They do not have 
the resources to deal effectively with it and are usually on the 
receiving end of a well-intentioned, but often misrun, faith-based 
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[AsburyPark] RE: Tax Increase

2006-07-17 Thread chooseorlose3636
Does anyone know what the new tax rate is? I was looking at my 
quarterly statement and my bill will increase by $750 next year.  What 
the ROI on that?

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[AsburyPark] Homeowners Assoc. Contributes $ 4,000 to Stand Up For Asbury!

2006-07-17 Thread paulvail1964
The Asbury Park Homeowners' Association invited Stand Up For Asbury! 
to address their members.  We are very grateful for the opportunity.

The Association voted to support us and to donate $ 4,000.00 dollars 
to our legal fund.  All of us at Stand Up For Asbury are humbled by 
their generosity and express to them our deepest thanks.

The Asbury Park Homeowners Association is the first organization in 
the city that has taken a stand on this issue.  We hope that other 
groups such as Asbury Park Action Committee  the Historical Society 
may soon follow suit.

We are fast approaching our initial fund raising goal.  Please 
continue to speak with your friends and neighbors about our appeal 
and encourage them to Stand Up For Asbury!

Best Regards,


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[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury, Meeting!

2006-07-17 Thread Steve
Hi Paul,

I'm responding to a rather old message that I just saw scanning
through while I was seeking something else!

It appears to me that most of the New People who have arrived here
in the past 5-7 years are actually Raping Asbury Park, NOT Standing
Up for Anything good at ALL here!

In fact, by these SAME People putting Puppets in that Control Every
aspect of current Government  the School System, they are MAKING the
situation that's aggravating the Homeless Problem, as well as causing
more Crime and the appearance of Gangs in the City!

Two of our Council People have come right out and admitted they're
Racist, and almost the entire Gay Population has Mobilized with the
Fishman's to do whatever they CAN to Get rid of the TRASH here
...aka ...Afro-Americans! John Loffredo was heard making highly Racist
 comments right TO his friends in Front of one of my Landlords who
related the incidence(s) to me!

To REALLY Stand Up for Asbury Park trying to defeat the Jersey Shore
Rescue Mission is not ONLY Useless  Racist, but you've already failed!

Why not TRY to work on creating Jobs and Affordable Housing for not
ONLY the Poor, but the Middle Class, instead of being a Racist and
just throwing Salt on a Bleeding Wound that you and your Friends have
Created by endorsing the Leaches like the Fishmans' who are actually
destroying Asbury, and the State, Long Term?

Are you aware that right NOW 50% of the People living in NJ cannot PAY
their Monthly Bills?  And it's NOT because they're Lazy or don't Work!
It's because Virtually NO Affordable Housing of ANY Level is being
Created, as well as that George Bush, the New World Order and all of
the Rich are eliminating GOOD Jobs and replacing them with Slave Wage
Jobs all Over the USA!

But Asbury NEEDS both Low Income AND Lower Middle Income People as
WELL as some Wealthy People!  Otherwise BAD problems will be
encountered in the Future when the Area loses a gigantic part of it's
Work Force, INCLUDING the People whom the Wealthy want to hire (But
they don't want to help them get Affordable Housing or pay them a
Living Wage!)

Besides being Crude, lacking Morals and Flat out being STUPID to
constantly Attack the Poor, it's also Anti-Religious, too!

Do you have any Values, Bud?

We need People of ALL Economic Leveles to not only LIVE here, but to
Survive  Thrive  Happily!  Until we DO Create that, we'll NEVER
have a One Asbury Park, as Ed Johnson has described what I'm saying
(A little more diplomatically than me, of course)!

Steve





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 Stand Up For Asbury! is holding a meeting to discuss legal appeals 
 to the variances issued to The Market Street Mission, a homeless 
 shelter and soup kitchen to open on the corner of Memorial and 
 Sewall in Asbury Park.
 
 WHEN: (This) Saturday, June 24th at 4:00 PM
 WHERE: 511 Second Ave, Asbury Park.
 
 There will be at least one representative from the City Council as 
 well as representatives from several Asbury Park leadership bodies 
 at the meeting. The meeting will be brief.
 
 Anyone who opposes the establishment of the Market Street Mission in 
 Asbury Park is welcome to attend.
 
 Donations to help finance our appeal can be sent to:
 
 Stand up for Asbury!
 P.O. Box 643
 Asbury Park, NJ 07712
 
 Checks should be made payable to Stand Up For Asbury!
 
 Sincerely,
 
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