[AsburyPark] Old School
What would help with these shootings is some good OLD SCHOOL a Smack on the Ass the Old Fashion Way.A good talking to.Family to be able to sit down to a Dinner to talk about things.Support them in the Schools more.From talking with them to supporting the teachers the people over them.In a postive manner.STOP THE NEGAIVE.The kids have enough of that else where.Alot of kids go home to 1 parent that is working.SSG Craft went home to a Grandmother look what he did went to Washington shook President Clintons Hand in 10 grade then went to Iraq lost a part of his leg for this Country.He was rasie the Old Fashion way.Know is rasing 2 daughters on his own in N.C.we can put all these things around the City of Asbury Park they we should put up a Wall make like East Berlin was. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old School
things around the City of Asbury Park they we should put up a Wall make like East Berlin was. There is already a wall that partially stands - the RR tracks. East Asbury and West Asbury. North Asbury and SouthWest AP. You'd think with it broken down like that and with more troops, the problems would disappear. The real thing that is cleaning up AP is home sales. The more sales to homeowners vs. investors then the problems should continue to dwindle - or shift in type of crime. People don't like being displaced, but then again do didn't the original homeowners who were displaced by multi-family home conversions way back when. Getting better everyday. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Brielle Cyclery on the Asbury Boardwalk
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Brielle Cyclery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have owned Brielle Cyclery for 37 years. As is the case with most bike shop owners, you don't stay in this business for that long because of the money. I too have a passion for bicycles and especially Asbury Park. A bike shop is a perfect business for a town that is trying to get back on its feet. We realize there is a bike ban ordinance on the boardwalk during certain hours but there are plenty of other places to ride bikes in the area. We didn't sign the lease until about a week and a half ago. I didn't want Kerri or any of my employees talking about it until it was finalized. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Asbury Park this summer! Regards, Kathy Penna owner Brielle Cyclery - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Atlanticville, May 17, 2006
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Letters May 17, 2007 Public advocate should vet all property takings Ronald Chen, public advocate, a good man by the way, wants to put a face on what eminent domain abuse has done to folks in New Jersey. He really doesn't have to look far. Long Branch took 47 Cooper Ave. in November 2002. The home belonged to Bruce MacCloud where he lived 300 feet from the ocean for over 20 years. He did not want to move, he was not cooperative with the taking, and as a result was forcibly removed by Long Branch police. Two months later his house was demolished, and today there are million-dollar condos on his 10,000 square feet of land. What makes this so horrible is almost five years later, Mr. Mac Cloud is still homeless, because the compensation courts have yet to have his trial. But I assume he has been paid the advance payment of their highest appraisal? What's the statutory interest in NJ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old School
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: things around the City of Asbury Park they we should put up a Wall make like East Berlin was. There is already a wall that partially stands - the RR tracks. East Asbury and West Asbury. North Asbury and SouthWest AP. You'd think with it broken down like that and with more troops, the problems would disappear. The real thing that is cleaning up AP is home sales. The more sales to homeowners vs. investors then the problems should continue to dwindle - or shift in type of crime. People don't like being displaced, but then again do didn't the original homeowners who were displaced by multi-family home conversions way back when. Getting better everyday. I agree. I am not for intrusions upon our liberty, but a large part of the problem is irresponsible landlords and the tenants they will rent to. I cringe every time I see or hear of another house being bought not for one's own use, but for rental. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Brielle Cyclery on the Asbury Boardwalk
--- Good Luck to you, just wondering where was your passion for \Asbury 3 yrs ago when the boardwalk was looking for business. KIn AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Brielle Cyclery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have owned Brielle Cyclery for 37 years. As is the case with most bike shop owners, you don't stay in this business for that long because of the money. I too have a passion for bicycles and especially Asbury Park. A bike shop is a perfect business for a town that is trying to get back on its feet. We realize there is a bike ban ordinance on the boardwalk during certain hours but there are plenty of other places to ride bikes in the area. We didn't sign the lease until about a week and a half ago. I didn't want Kerri or any of my employees talking about it until it was finalized. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Asbury Park this summer! Regards, Kathy Penna owner Brielle Cyclery - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Go Henry
Asbury man to face pop star in court Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 05/17/07 BOB CULLINANE STAFF WRITER Asbury Park contractor Henry Vaccaro said he's gonna teach this boy a lesson when he squares off against pop star Michael Jackson in a Las Vegas courtroom Friday. Vaccaro is expected to testify about his battle for the ownership and his subsequent sale of nearly 2,000 items of Jackson family memorabilia that the gloved one claims still belong to him and his siblings. Friday's hearing, at which Jackson has been ordered to appear, comes two weeks before the collection is scheduled to be auctioned piece by piece at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas. Jackson is seeking to stop the auction by Universal Express, a company that bought the collection from Vaccaro earlier this year. A complete list of the 1,827 Jackson family items is available at www.usxp.com/jackson. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old School
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would help with these shootings is some good OLD SCHOOL a Smack on the Ass the Old Fashion Way.A good talking to.Family to be able to sit down to a Dinner to talk about things.Support them in the Schools more. White teacher taught lesson in racial double standard Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 05/17/07 Story Chat Post Comment In a new twist in American race relations, a federal court has ruled that a white teacher in a predominantly black school was subjected to a racially hostile workplace. The case concerned Elizabeth Kandrac, who was routinely verbally abused by black students at Brentwood Middle School in North Charleston, S.C.. Their slurs make shock jock Don Imus look like a church deacon. Nevertheless, despite frequent complaints, school officials did nothing to intervene on Kandrac's behalf, arguing that the racially charged profanity was simply part of the students' culture. If Kandrac couldn't handle cursing, school officials told her, she was in the wrong school. Kandrac finally filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and subsequently brought a lawsuit against the Charleston County School District, the school's principal and an associate superintendent. Last fall, jurors found that the school was a racially hostile environment to teach in and that the school district retaliated against Kandrac for complaining about it. The defendants sought a new trial, but U.S. District Judge David C. Norton recently affirmed the verdict. However, he did not support the jury's findings of $307,500 in damages for lost income and emotional distress. Although Kandrac clearly suffered she was suspended from her job shortly after a story about her EEOC complaint appeared in the local newspaper, and her contract was not renewed her case didn't meet evidentiary requirements for damages. The judge said a new trial would have to determine damages, but the school district and Kandrac settled for $200,000. While the dollars-and-cents issue may have been of paramount importance to school and district officials and would have lent heft to the verdict the more compelling issue for students, parents and society is the idea that a particular group of people can be allowed to behave in a grossly uncivil and threatening way by virtue of their racial culture. The key legal question was whether a school could be held responsible for students' behavior. In this case, the black children of Brentwood had been given a pass for their behavior because vulgar language was considered normal for their culture. Defense attorney Alice Paylor told jurors that the kids heard this same language at home and there was no magic pill to make them behave. Paylor is probably right about that, though a magic paddle might have worked wonders. Back in the day, if a student talked the way these did, he or she would have received a well-deserved thwack, been suspended and sent home to face the wrath of his or her father. That process likely would have put a swift end to the tribal tyranny now often tolerated in the service of self-esteem. Let's be clear: What these children called this teacher is beyond reprehensible and could only be construed as hostile and threatening. Other white teachers and students corroborated Kandrac's account, including a male war veteran who testified he would rather return to Vietnam than to Brentwood. Kandrac's attorney, Larry Kobrovsky, argued that the repeated use of white made these slurs racist in nature. But school officials insisted that because black students were equally abusive to other blacks, the language wasn't inherently racist. Here's what we know without question: If majority white students had used similar language toward black students and teachers, the case would have been plastered on the front page of The New York Times until heads rolled. A black Kandrac would have a million-dollar book deal, a movie contract and hundreds of interviews to juggle. Her oppressors and those who passively facilitated her abuse would have been pilloried by the media their faces all over the evening news while the reverends Al and Jesse organized protests. But a white Kandrac who faced a daily barrage of insults, who had books and desks thrown at her and her bicycle tires punctured was treated like an incompetent wimp. She was just a lousy teacher out for money, the defense attorney said. Though Kandrac lost her job, the real losers are the children deprived of an education by the actions of a tyrannical few. And the worst racists are those teachers and administrators who denied these empowered brats the expectation of civilized behavior. May the rest of America now be emboldened to act decisively in the interest of students who want to learn. Kathleen Parker's nationally syndicated column appears regularly. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Brielle Cyclery on the Asbury Boardwalk
Brielle Cyclery, I wish you the best of luck. It will be nice to see a bike shop still on the boards. I admire the risk you are taking. Asbury is not a sure thing and it will take time to develop clients needed to support the business. In fact I believe you have a even tougher climate than there was 3 years ago. The ban on the boardwalk as well as the negative campaign (website, posts on here, posts on app.com) from the last vendor are all issues you will have to deal with. With all that said, this commitment shows your faith in Asbury Park. Again I wish you the best of luck this season. - Original Message From: seatramp800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:31:00 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Brielle Cyclery on the Asbury Boardwalk --- Good Luck to you, just wondering where was your passion for \Asbury 3 yrs ago when the boardwalk was looking for business. KIn [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Brielle Cyclery briellecyclery@ ... wrote: I have owned Brielle Cyclery for 37 years. As is the case with most bike shop owners, you don't stay in this business for that long because of the money. I too have a passion for bicycles and especially Asbury Park. A bike shop is a perfect business for a town that is trying to get back on its feet. We realize there is a bike ban ordinance on the boardwalk during certain hours but there are plenty of other places to ride bikes in the area. We didn't sign the lease until about a week and a half ago. I didn't want Kerri or any of my employees talking about it until it was finalized. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Asbury Park this summer! Regards, Kathy Penna owner Brielle Cyclery - - --- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
[AsburyPark] Re: Brielle Cyclery on the Asbury Boardwalk
they're able to do it cause it's not their first shop. Your're first time out you learn. You learn the facts of business life. Don't think I don't want to set my kids up for a couple summers on the boardwalk cause I want them to learn. I also want them to earn. Being in business for yourself is the BEST school. You have to fail to succeed. If you succeed then fail it's harder to recover. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Chamber of Commerce Luncheon
Here is a summary of the Madison Marquette Chamber meeting. 1. Impressive. 2. Union workers had picket line out front of Taka. 3. Paramount to be open July 1. Clark redoing seats. It will be done Historically correct. Expert from NYC hired by MM. 4. MM deal not legally final but MM is managing the retail/boardwalk. 5. power Plant - no plans yet. 6. Casino - not until 2010. 7. The bradley plan steets scape forced to be done by MM for looks. 8. The green spaces on BW should be activated. Somehow create amusements (not honky tonk) like an observation tower, water slide etc. 9. Each Pavillion to have own theme - maybe a wave pool etc. 10. Wesley Plaza to be new Etnertainment district and go back to city to rethink to connect the casino market and bring down and tie into cookman. 11. Parking - each residential tower is to have excess parking. YOu know what that means. Zero. (my comment) 12. CH - working on ideas. 13. Union guy question: What about us? Then it went downhill - we'll try where economically feasible (this is where SOAP kicks in ) - The Paramount is and can never be a money maker, nor CH, noever works anywhere etc etc. Listen - the difference between union and non is a big gap. 14. FOR BIKE GUY - Domenic Santana aksed a question about bike riding - MM supports it and is working on it. Domenick wants to ride with his kids on the BW. !5. Ocean ave to be repaved finsihed for looks. If not for MM, Partners would have left it. 16. Its a challenge. MM wants to (needs to ) work with community groups. 17. Somehow the schools came up. MM said listen, the school district has to be worked on (something like that). It doesn't work...we all nknow about Abbott schools etc...he didn't want to continue on this. 18. Dan's boy, David Rockwell to come in and give more design ideas. 19.MM repsonsible for knocking down stuff to make it more appealing AND...to get more parking. More parking won't be around for some time, so empty lots may be used for now. TO go to Taka, I parked in front of Moonstruck. 20. GREAT FOODcook and I show up. I guess someone at MM reads these boards. It stared out good, good ideas, then kind of wondered off a bit and we all had some flashbacks. Now see what Nancy reports as she scribbled away. Questions? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Chamber of Commerce Luncheon
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a summary of the Madison Marquette Chamber meeting. 4. MM deal not legally final but MM is managing the retail/boardwalk. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. 5. power Plant - no plans yet. Let me have it. 8. The green spaces on BW should be activated. Somehow create amusements (not honky tonk) like an observation tower, water slide etc. Werner will have a fit. 9. Each Pavillion to have own theme - maybe a wave pool etc. Do you know how big an area you need for a wave pool? I just did a waterpark in Niagara Falls. Werner will have a fit. We got a beach for chrissakes. 10. Wesley Plaza to be new Etnertainment district and go back to city to rethink to connect the casino market and bring down and tie into cookman. Where the hell is Wesley Plaza? 11. Parking - each residential tower is to have excess parking. YOu know what that means. Zero. (my comment) Yeah, our parking spots. 12. CH - working on ideas. Gee, how about a theatre/convention space? !5. Ocean ave to be repaved finsihed for looks. If not for MM, Partners would have left it. I feel sorry for MM having to deal with the Fish. What a POS. The elected officials should be tarred and feathered for getting us mixed up with these guys. All you geniuses out there who continue to toot their horn (they did the best they could, no one else wanted it, yada yada yada)- what have you got to say? Bunch of first-class bozos. get out of the pool when the water is over your head and you don;t know how to swim. 16. Its a challenge. MM wants to (needs to ) work with community groups. Please, no more gandhis. Just build the f-king waterfront. 18. Dan's boy, David Rockwell to come in and give more design ideas. These guys have to stop reaching for the stars. The bones of the place are fine. You got the ocean and beach. We don't need Disney World. Just build sound pavilions. I guess someone at MM reads these boards. Their heart appears to be in the right place even though their head sometimes appears to be stuck somewhere else. I assume what is holding up the legalization of the deal now is the City. The Fish seems to be grabbing his ankles for them. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Chamber of Commerce Luncheon
1. The plant will someday be tied in to the casino market 2. He used the term activated for the green spaces on the BW. Like any real estate guy, that is Ocean Front Land. Seems like they are getting buyddy buddy with the state - to help AP 3. The wave pool he threw out there, but I thought the same thing 4. They also want to tie in all the retail and walkways, so when you look at the history of AP, you tie in Ocean Ave- all retail should be tied in etc. They don't want gap - AP, and every shore town has its own unique theme. 5.Wesley Plaza is the name he gave to the new idea. The former plan had 3 levels of retail which is said would not work, the new plan would create ground floor retail, tie it in to the casino etc. Does not like malls - town centers tb Wesley Plaza - casino to W. Grove to cookman. 6. Thy're idea to cleanup the gateway to the ocean (the pits and trucks at the casino). 7. CH - the whole thing doesn't make ecomnomic sense 8. Larry shoed up at the end. Yuri was there to hold the fort down. 16. Its a challenge. MM wants to (needs to ) work with community Funny you use the term bones. Thats what MM said- the bones are here. Never again would an opportunity exist to recreate the history and a new town center like this. This is not a standard thing you see elsewhere around the country I thought werner wrote this for him You have to realize what I said - you need plans. Development plans, concept plans, building plans, appprovals, buidlers etc. Be happy for now Ocean Ave is getting a final top coat, the lots are getting cleaned up, the boardwalk is lit, the beach is clean and there are police around and enjoy the good food AP has to offer. He also mentioned they are talking to surf shops, places to buy a water. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] 17 year old shot while sitting in car
WHERE: Shoulder shot in back seat OTHERS: Two in front seat unhurt Bullet hits 17-year-old sitting in car Posted by the _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) on 05/17/07 BY _MICHELLE SAHN_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK — Police are investigating the shooting of a 17-year-old city girl who was hit by a bullet Monday as she sat in the back seat of a vehicle, authorities said. The girl, whose name was not made public, was released from Jersey Shore University Medical Center in Neptune Tuesday, police said. Around 9:15 p.m. Monday, the girl was in the back seat of a vehicle that also was occupied by two other people. The driver pulled out of the parking lot of the McDonald's restaurant on Main Street and turned left onto Sixth Avenue, police said. As they headed east on the 800 block of Sixth Avenue, shots were fired into the vehicle, Capt. David Kelso said. The girl was struck in the shoulder, he said. Neither the driver nor the front-seat passenger was hit, Kelso said. Police still are trying to determine if the bullets were fired by someone who was standing on the street or who was in another vehicle. The shooting investigation is being handled by city Detectives April Bird and Terry Williams, along with Detective Louis Zuppa of the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office. Anyone with information is asked to call police at (732) 502-5770 or the city's tip line at (800) 799-8280. Copyright © 2007 Asbury Park Press. All rights reserved. Users of this site agree to the _Terms of Service_ (http://www.app.com/terms/) and _Privacy Policy/Your California Privacy Rights_ (http://www.app.com/privacy/) (Terms updated March 2007) Site design by _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) / _Contact us_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=CONTACTUS) NEWS AND INFORMATION WITH A UNIQUE TWIST The Brown Report on the Electric News weeknights a 7 est._www.electricnews.com_ (http://www.electricnews.com/) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Re: Old School
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote: What would help with these shootings is some good OLD SCHOOL a Smack on the Ass the Old Fashion Way.A good talking to.Family to be able to sit down to a Dinner to talk about things.Support them in the Schools more. White teacher taught lesson in racial double standard Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 05/17/07 Story Chat Post Comment In a new twist in American race relations, a federal court has ruled that a white teacher in a predominantly black school was subjected to a racially hostile workplace. The case concerned Elizabeth Kandrac, who was routinely verbally abused by black students at Brentwood Middle School in North Charleston, S.C.. Their slurs make shock jock Don Imus look like a church deacon. Nevertheless, despite frequent complaints, school officials did nothing to intervene on Kandrac's behalf, arguing that the racially charged profanity was simply part of the students' culture. If Kandrac couldn't handle cursing, school officials told her, she was in the wrong school. Kandrac finally filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and subsequently brought a lawsuit against the Charleston County School District, the school's principal and an associate superintendent. Last fall, jurors found that the school was a racially hostile environment to teach in and that the school district retaliated against Kandrac for complaining about it. The defendants sought a new trial, but U.S. District Judge David C. Norton recently affirmed the verdict. However, he did not support the jury's findings of $307,500 in damages for lost income and emotional distress. Although Kandrac clearly suffered she was suspended from her job shortly after a story about her EEOC complaint appeared in the local newspaper, and her contract was not renewed her case didn't meet evidentiary requirements for damages. The judge said a new trial would have to determine damages, but the school district and Kandrac settled for $200,000. While the dollars-and-cents issue may have been of paramount importance to school and district officials and would have lent heft to the verdict the more compelling issue for students, parents and society is the idea that a particular group of people can be allowed to behave in a grossly uncivil and threatening way by virtue of their racial culture. The key legal question was whether a school could be held responsible for students' behavior. In this case, the black children of Brentwood had been given a pass for their behavior because vulgar language was considered normal for their culture. Defense attorney Alice Paylor told jurors that the kids heard this same language at home and there was no magic pill to make them behave. Paylor is probably right about that, though a magic paddle might have worked wonders. Back in the day, if a student talked the way these did, he or she would have received a well-deserved thwack, been suspended and sent home to face the wrath of his or her father. That process likely would have put a swift end to the tribal tyranny now often tolerated in the service of self-esteem. Let's be clear: What these children called this teacher is beyond reprehensible and could only be construed as hostile and threatening. Other white teachers and students corroborated Kandrac's account, including a male war veteran who testified he would rather return to Vietnam than to Brentwood. Kandrac's attorney, Larry Kobrovsky, argued that the repeated use of white made these slurs racist in nature. But school officials insisted that because black students were equally abusive to other blacks, the language wasn't inherently racist. Here's what we know without question: If majority white students had used similar language toward black students and teachers, the case would have been plastered on the front page of The New York Times until heads rolled. A black Kandrac would have a million-dollar book deal, a movie contract and hundreds of interviews to juggle. Her oppressors and those who passively facilitated her abuse would have been pilloried by the media their faces all over the evening news while the reverends Al and Jesse organized protests. But a white Kandrac who faced a daily barrage of insults, who had books and desks thrown at her and her bicycle tires punctured was treated like an incompetent wimp. She was just a lousy teacher out for money, the defense attorney said. Though Kandrac lost her job, the real losers are the children deprived of an education by the actions of a tyrannical few. And the worst racists are those teachers and administrators who denied these empowered brats the expectation of civilized behavior. May the rest of America now be emboldened to act decisively in the interest of
