[AsburyPark] Re: FBI's Monmouth County Corruption Targets

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
Thanks for posting this.  When I look at this list, I thinkwho is
currently serving AP at the moment that will be on this list 2 years
from now?  There is noone that would surprise me.  

Somehow, public servants have to be held to SERVICE more often.  
The Center for Civic Responsibility is a group working on that. 
Fostering a culture of service.  That is what it is supposed to be. 
Not self serving.  My limited experience with AP gov is rather
disappointing, they don't get it.  While I understand dealing with
citizens can be a pain in the ass, that is what you are there for. 
Most up there seem genuinely annoyed by citizens.  

And trying to get documents...OY!  

A government that cares for democracy would have every transcript free
and available on PDF for all to see, not to mention meetings broadcast
on public access and the web.

An attempt to get a transcript some time ago sent me to a service that
sent me back to the city and then a we will get back to you  no
deal.  never heard from anyone.  It was as if they had no idea how to
get info to citizens.  the Board of ed, same thing.  We shouldn't have
to fill our paperwork to see what tax dollars are paying for.



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Big Drug Bust

2007-11-02 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
In a message dated 11/2/2007 10:28:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  OCEAN TOWNSHIP †Police arrested two men after a motor vehicle stop  at
 the Asbury Park Circle, authorities said.
 

They sit  there like sentinels and make even me nervous.


Yeah, what is it with that AP Circle and Rt 66.   Profiling?



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[AsburyPark] Bruce vs. Clear Channel: Radio Nowhere

2007-11-02 Thread MarioAPNJ



 
_This really is  Radio Nowhere_ 
(http://mediamatters.org/items/200710310005?f=h_popular) 
Media Matters for  America - Washington,DC,USA
Clear Channel is a yet another  right-wing, jingoistic media company, and 
Bruce has made his and the  record's anti-Bush, pro-free speech political 
message 
...
_See all stories on this topic_ 
(http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://mediamatters.org/items/200710310005?f=h_popular)
   
_Is  Clear Channel Communications Giving Their Listeners the Finger  ..._ 
(http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/music/15866/is-clear-channel-communicat
ions-giving-their-listeners-the-finger-again/) 
The Moderate Voice -  USA
The reason, according to Fox News, is that Clear Channel  doesn't want cuts 
from the singles-rich album diluting all of the  Springsteen oldies that are ...
_See all stories on this topic_ 
(http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://themoderatevoice.com/entertainment/music/15866/is-clear-channel-communications
-giving-their-listeners-the-finger-again/)   
_Clear  Channel: We Didn't Ban The Boss_ 
(http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=139856pt=todaysnews) 
Streaming Magazine - West Palm Beach,FL,USA
...  2007: Since a Fox News report cited sources saying Clear Channel had  
ordered its Classic Rock stations not to play tracks from Bruce  Springsteen's 
new ...
_See all stories on this topic_ 
(http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=139856pt=todaysnews)
   
_Springsteen  vs. Clear Channel_ 
(http://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/centralpa/index.ssf/2007/11/springsteen_vs_clear_channel.html)
 
The  Patriot-News - PennLive.com - Harrisburg,PA,USA
Stir gently and you  have yourself a holier-than-thou cocktail about Clear 
Channel supposedly  banning Bruce Springsteen from its stations because he's 
too 
 ...
_See all stories on this topic_ 
(http://news.google.com/news?hl=enncl=http://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/centralpa/index.ssf/2007/11/springsteen_vs_clea
r_channel.html)  



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[AsburyPark] Re: Big Drug Bust

2007-11-02 Thread oakdorf


 
 They sit there like sentinels and make even me nervous.


same here. Everyday, all day. 
Guarding the gate. 
Just like Interlaken and Allenhurst. 



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: FBI's Monmouth County Corruption Targets

2007-11-02 Thread 2fine4u
Isn't it funny?  The group, well some, who are sitting in charge,
complained about the group, now serving time!  Same thing!  Couldn't
get any documents and this group?  Worse!  No improvement and they
refer you elsewhere, only to wind up, where you started!  Didn't know
the school board is doing the same thing!  Just look at Washington! 
The Vice President held secret energy meetings, with OUR tax dollars
and has yet, to release any details about it!  So the SECRETS, start
at the top, just like a stinking fish!  Just an observation!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for posting this.  When I look at this list, I thinkwho is
 currently serving AP at the moment that will be on this list 2 years
 from now?  There is noone that would surprise me.  
 
 Somehow, public servants have to be held to SERVICE more often.  
 The Center for Civic Responsibility is a group working on that. 
 Fostering a culture of service.  That is what it is supposed to be. 
 Not self serving.  My limited experience with AP gov is rather
 disappointing, they don't get it.  While I understand dealing with
 citizens can be a pain in the ass, that is what you are there for. 
 Most up there seem genuinely annoyed by citizens.  
 
 And trying to get documents...OY!  
 
 A government that cares for democracy would have every transcript free
 and available on PDF for all to see, not to mention meetings broadcast
 on public access and the web.
 
 An attempt to get a transcript some time ago sent me to a service that
 sent me back to the city and then a we will get back to you  no
 deal.  never heard from anyone.  It was as if they had no idea how to
 get info to citizens.  the Board of ed, same thing.  We shouldn't have
 to fill our paperwork to see what tax dollars are paying for.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Big Drug Bust

2007-11-02 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -but here you go. Ocean Twp police got 2 from AP:
 
 OCEAN TOWNSHIP †Police arrested two men after a motor vehicle stop at
 the Asbury Park Circle, authorities said.
 

They sit there like sentinels and make even me nervous.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: All the Venom in the State spewed in Monmouth County???

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
These chicks are making me ashamed of my gender.  I wish I had a
little of their ambition though.  How do people work that hard?  One
of the funniest things is to look at the legislation that Beck has put
forward.  So much of it is such nonsense (i didn't look at karcher's
yet).  



 
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[AsburyPark] a political rant

2007-11-02 Thread Traderdube
Is anybody else sick to death of the complete and utter bullshit being 
heaped upon America this election season?

Here along the Jersey shore the assembly and senate have become 
increasingly ugly. For instance, we have two woman running for senator.
For all intents and purposes they are both extraordinary candidates. 
Very sharp, hard working, and ethical woman. I really can't decide who 
to vote for
so I have made a point of reading up on them and trying to catch their 
debates on ye olde boob toob. For those of you who don't know, NJ sets 
the standard for political corruption. Along with corruption, we in 
Monmouth County are now facing the closure of Fort Monmouth.

The closure of Fort Monmouth, 90 years old this year. The main defensive 
and offensive facility to protect NY harbor, Fort Monmouth was 
instrumental in our winning WWII. Radar and  the walkie Talkie were both 
developed  at the fort. In fact, after the war, Bell Labs emerged  from 
fort personnel and our phone system was developed by these  electronic 
engineers.  When the BRAC Commission voted to  close the fort, CECOM, 
the communications team at the the fort , were working on  a means of  
detonating roadside bombs so that our soldiers in Iraq wouldn't die from 
these incessant roadside bombings. Evidently, due to a  multitude of 
reasons, one which was simply a reaction to the loss of jobs and the 
impending decision to move to wherever they decide to relocate the fort. 
Well, it's 2+ years after the decision and it has come out that the 750 
million dollars needed to close the fort is more like 1.5 billion. This 
is not a slight error on a calculator. This is outright corruption at 
the highest level. The 2 leaders of the BRAC Commission both had ties in 
Maryland where a large chunk of the forts mission is supposed to 
relocate to.

So, you would think that 2 state senate candidates would be hot to trot 
over this issue. No way, instead the girls are sniping at one another 
over traffic tickets and other seemingly mindless BS that means nothing. 
One of the candidates has already spent 4 million dollars on her 
campaign, most it toward mud slinging ads at her opponent.

How about last weeks Democratic debate and the furor over Hillary. Here 
is a headline from today's NY Times:
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Prostates and Prejudices
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Rudy Giuliani has a habit of saying things that are demonstrably untrue. 
And the American people have a right to know that.

Now, no matter what side of the political spectrum you are on, it is 
plain as daylight that you could take out Rudy and insert Hillary.
To think that these two are the front runners to succeed our president 
is mind boggling. That these two can not utter the truth no matter what 
is maddening.
They will say whatever they have to in order to win the presidency. But 
that is not the issue. The issue is that nobody seems to care. Let 'em 
lie, let 'em cheat, let 'em steal.
It's as if that has become the American Way. In the wake of  Bush and 
Clinton, somebody needs to rise above this bullshit that is suffocating 
The American Way of Life.

The 2 key issues facing our nation are terrorism and corruption. The war 
being waged by the DOD against terrorism is so rife with corruption that 
America stands no chance on winning either battle. That not one 
candidate, from the locals to the nationals is standing up to this 
challenge is evidence that we are in deep shit, er, make that deep 
bullshit.





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Clear Channel Bruce Springsteen's Latest

2007-11-02 Thread Mike Hemeon
Let's face it the country is runing low on money so
they sell licenses. There have been a couple of cases
recently where a group of citizens had hired a lawyer
and petitioned the FCC to block license renewal based
on the fact that the station in their area wasn't
serving the public. Since the FCC does not, well isn't
supposed to, concern itself with content teh licenses
were renewed.

To comment on why Clear Channel plays old music rather
than music by old people. If the music you play is
older than 25 years old you don't have to pay music
licensing fees. If they were inclined to play music by
old people they would have pay for it. 



--- 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 See what I mean?  How can media be free, when the
 owners DICTATE,
 what will, or will NOT be aired?  Who OWNS the
 media?  WE don't! 
 Clear Channel should be reported and
 sanctioned/fined/license
 suspended or revoked!  This is how the communists
 control their media!
  I thought that we had a democracy!  Call me a
 liberal, but I believe
 in FREE speech and airwaves that aren't TAINTED with
 ones' OWN
 political leanings!  Bruce is an American with free
 will and free
 speech!  This is a violation of free and unhampered
 speech!
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Sources claim that Clear Channel has sent an edict
 to its classic rock
  stations not to play tracks from Magic. But it's
 OK to play old
  Springsteen tracks such as Dancing in the Dark,
 Born to Run and
  Born in the USA.
  
  From:  Click here: Radio Boycotts Bruce
 Springsteen's Latest -
  Entertainment on The Huffington Post
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/30/radio-boycotts-bruce-spri_n_70\
  369.html
  Another take:Click here: Ageism?: Clear
 Channel More Interested In
  Playing Old Music Than Music By Old People
 

http://idolator.com/tunes/ageism%3F/clear-channel-more-interested-in-pl\
 
 aying-old-music-than-music-by-old-people-316765.php
  
    Related:
   Plaintiffs from 23
  different regions across the United States who
 purchased tickets to live
  rock concerts from Clear Channel or one of its
 subsidiaries filed class
  action suits. Plaintiffs attended live rock
 concerts promoted by
  Defendants such as Madonna, Bruce Springsteen,
 Eric Clapton, Billy Joel,
  Elvis Costello and The Who.   Click here: Clear
 Channel Must Face the
  Music as Judge Certifies Class Action for
 Concert-Goers
 

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/AQTU29123102007\
  -1.htm
 
 
 
 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove for Downsizers

2007-11-02 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 11/1/2007 2:58:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oh god  I love that man. [Carlin]
Then you'll probably appreciate Henry Rollins, on IFC usually 11 PM  Fridays 
(but 2nite at 11:10)  Unfortunately competes with Bill Maher, but  if you're 
affluenza enough grin with DVR, that shouldn't be a  problem.
 
Opening monologues can't be quite a rant.  Cool guy.  Known to  respond to 
emails personally.
 
 
_Click here: The Henry  Rollins Show_ (http://www.ifctv.com/series?aId=18032) 
 

 
 
The Henry Rollins Show takes an uncensored approach to talk show  
programming with a voice that strikes a brilliant balance of humor, angst, art  
and 
intellect.
 
 

 



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[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove for Downsizers

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
I love Rollins...saw him at the paramount a few years back.  Don't
have a TV though



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread evosap
I had yummy yummy food there in the beginning of the summer,  nice
ppl, spent a ridiculous amount of time at the beach bar...friday night
of road trip there was one of the funnest nights of my life even
though the bartender and i were the only ones dancing (made me
concerned for the hip health of AP)...changed the chef toward the end
of the summer (he was apparently a little rough though his diver
scallops and pear salad i could eat every day) haven't eaten there
since...no reason other than budget.  they are a little tense. 
restaurants are so personal, they are like people they have moods,
cycles you gotta take em as they are or not go.  the outside eating
area still smells like the homeless people who lived there...i kinda
miss that little group, but they didn't leave behind fresh air..



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, joy norton cujosmom2@ wrote:
 
 
 
  Is it just me or was this other people's experience
  too?
 
 
 I don't know anything about anything, but the right way to do it:
 
 1. The first floor is a beach cafe-  burgers, shakes, fries pizza 
 etc - for families and priced that way with a bump for location. 
 
 2. Floor 2 - do they upscale route and banquets meetings then paty the 
 whole place after 9pm.
 
 Keep the $15 burgers at Pier House or Avenue.
 
 Even McD's wants $6.00 for some real meat.


The place started out good, service got a little spotty. It was packed
all summer. I think they may be loosing interest since it is run by
Gary Mottola's brother-in-law who has restaurants in Philly. They did
it to get it up and running. The place is being actively shopped to be
rented.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread arhythmick

I was originally very excited about the prospect of this
restaurant...good food, casual atmosphere, great location.  I was even
there on opening night.  But recently there has been a tail off in
appeal... limited menu selections (even with their new chef ) gets a bit
boring and $100 dinners and $60 lunches for my family has got me
thinking that those paninis 2 doors down are looking pretty
appetizing...


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, joy norton cujosmom2@ wrote:
  
 
 
   Is it just me or was this other people's experience
   too?
 
 
  I don't know anything about anything, but the right way to do it:
 
  1. The first floor is a beach cafe- burgers, shakes, fries pizza
  etc - for families and priced that way with a bump for location.
 
  2. Floor 2 - do they upscale route and banquets meetings then paty
the
  whole place after 9pm.
 
  Keep the $15 burgers at Pier House or Avenue.
 
  Even McD's wants $6.00 for some real meat.
 

 The place started out good, service got a little spotty. It was packed
 all summer. I think they may be loosing interest since it is run by
 Gary Mottola's brother-in-law who has restaurants in Philly. They did
 it to get it up and running. The place is being actively shopped to be
 rented.






 
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[AsburyPark] Handy Website for NJ Voter Information

2007-11-02 Thread Mario
Analyses for all of Tuesday's ballot questions at
http://www.njvoterinfo.org/ http://www.njvoterinfo.org/  For example: 
Regarding PUBLIC QUESTION # 1DEDICATES ANNUAL REVENUE OF ...
Do you approve the amendment of Article VII,Background:...The sales
tax increased from 6 to 7 cents in July of ...
Reasons to vote yes:
· Property taxes are very high relative to other taxes in New Jersey.
This dedication is a step
toward providing relief to property tax payers.
· Dedication of tax revenue prevents it from being used for general
spending and insures its
availability for the intended purpose. A constitutional dedication can
only be changed by
the voters.
Reasons to vote no:
· Constitutionally dedicating taxes reduces the flexibility of the
state to direct revenues to
changing priorities.
· The one penny increase in the sales tax passed in 2006 was to
provide additional money to
help balance the budget. Dedicating this increase leaves the state
budget under funded
which will force budget cuts or borrowing to fund programs not defined
for use by the
property tax relief fund.
=For me, the above format
provides the most useful tool  for decision-making.  Also
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/roster.asp
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/roster.asp  where you can see how
legislators voted either by bill or by subject.


[AsburyPark] Another Twist on BAD Lighting.

2007-11-02 Thread wernerapnj
Noticed tonight that the small signs along the Ocean Ave sidewalk of
ConHall have been lit up.

I mean LIT UP to the point of being a distraction and diminishing the
natural beauty of the building.

I had hoped that good sense would prevail and the simple incandescent
 lamps in the archways would be the defining feature on the front of
ConHall. A beautiful series of arches and columns.

It is not to be. Another example of TOO MUCH light for no legitimate
purpose that erodes the intrinsic beauty of Asbury Park. Not to
mention a National historic Site.

Really sad that attention to such a simple detail can not be found in
the acts of those charged with caring for our beachfront.

Werner




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The place started out good, service got a little spotty. It was packed
 all summer. I think they may be loosing interest since it is run by
 Gary Mottola's brother-in-law who has restaurants in Philly. They did
 it to get it up and running. The place is being actively shopped to be
 rented.
===

Another smoke and mirrors tactic - When, WHEN will this City wake up
and realize it has been taken advantage of?

Werner




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Another Twist on BAD Lighting.

2007-11-02 Thread charlie
 I havn't posted on the board in a long time, weeks, if not longer.  Nice 
job on pointing that out Werner.  I noticed what you spoke of a few days ago.  
For anyone who's not sure what's being spoke of; the square wood framed display 
cases that read Paramount have been lit up.  Lit up to the point where their 
brighter then a flood light!  I think the bulbs have always been inside the 
boxes but were never turned on?  Not sure.. 
   I like the idea of lighting them up, however the lights currently being 
used are too bright.  As bright as they are, they don't even light up what 
needs to be scene!  It's a blinding light around the perimeter of the box.
   
  Charlie

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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Salt Water Cafe - is it just me?

2007-11-02 Thread charlie
 I've never been to the Salt Water Cafe, so I can't speak too much about 
it.  However from the first day it opened it was obvious it was a completely 
different type of place.   It wasn't a bad place in my mind, it still isn't.  I 
just don't think it's what most people invisioned being in that location...  
I'm sure once the rest of the high end condos and townhouses are built up it 
will fit right in... ha.  You have to figure, it does make sence, an upscale 
looking place like SWC has to cater to the needs of these new owners to some 
extent.  
  I don't like the direction the boardwalk is going in right now.  I like 
all the new stores and food places that opened in the SWC building but they 
don't give the right look for what the AP boardwalk was.  or sopose to be.  
Something as simple as the awings over each new store gives off an upscale 
look.  Something you would not find on a Jersey Shore boardwalk.  Maybe it's 
just my artistic eye that picks up on these things.  I don't know.  The awnings 
look nice, nothings wrong with them.  But when you start seeing them 
everywhere, it starts to give off an entirly different look  A look that 
doesn't even look like your on the boaredwalk.

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[AsburyPark] New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.

2007-11-02 Thread charlie
 There are new large scale planters around the Paramoun entrance 
and along Ocean ave across from CH.  Their huge, and look good in my 
eye.  Check them out!  I posted a pic in the file section for anyone 
who hasn't seen them yet.

charlie



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: a political rant - with my slant!

2007-11-02 Thread Kevin Brown
If I was as strange as some think, I would start building a space 
ship and selected 2 of every kind of animal, 2 of every kind of plant 
and two breeding females (human of course) and learning how to 
seperate my fingers in a vulcan symbol and saying to New 
Jerseans; Live long and prosper... then I would push the button 
and off into space we would go...  of course i would leave my collar 
on the steps of the State House as a sign of my repulse!



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anybody else sick to death of the complete and utter bullshit 
being 
 heaped upon America this election season?
 
 Here along the Jersey shore the assembly and senate have become 
 increasingly ugly. For instance, we have two woman running for 
senator.
 For all intents and purposes they are both extraordinary 
candidates. 
 Very sharp, hard working, and ethical woman. I really can't decide 
who 
 to vote for
 so I have made a point of reading up on them and trying to catch 
their 
 debates on ye olde boob toob. For those of you who don't know, NJ 
sets 
 the standard for political corruption. Along with corruption, we in 
 Monmouth County are now facing the closure of Fort Monmouth.
 
 The closure of Fort Monmouth, 90 years old this year. The main 
defensive 
 and offensive facility to protect NY harbor, Fort Monmouth was 
 instrumental in our winning WWII. Radar and  the walkie Talkie were 
both 
 developed  at the fort. In fact, after the war, Bell Labs emerged  
from 
 fort personnel and our phone system was developed by these  
electronic 
 engineers.  When the BRAC Commission voted to  close the fort, 
CECOM, 
 the communications team at the the fort , were working on  a means 
of  
 detonating roadside bombs so that our soldiers in Iraq wouldn't die 
from 
 these incessant roadside bombings. Evidently, due to a  multitude 
of 
 reasons, one which was simply a reaction to the loss of jobs and 
the 
 impending decision to move to wherever they decide to relocate the 
fort. 
 Well, it's 2+ years after the decision and it has come out that the 
750 
 million dollars needed to close the fort is more like 1.5 billion. 
This 
 is not a slight error on a calculator. This is outright corruption 
at 
 the highest level. The 2 leaders of the BRAC Commission both had 
ties in 
 Maryland where a large chunk of the forts mission is supposed to 
 relocate to.
 
 So, you would think that 2 state senate candidates would be hot to 
trot 
 over this issue. No way, instead the girls are sniping at one 
another 
 over traffic tickets and other seemingly mindless BS that means 
nothing. 
 One of the candidates has already spent 4 million dollars on her 
 campaign, most it toward mud slinging ads at her opponent.
 
 How about last weeks Democratic debate and the furor over Hillary. 
Here 
 is a headline from today's NY Times:
 OP-ED COLUMNIST
 Prostates and Prejudices
 By PAUL KRUGMAN
 Rudy Giuliani has a habit of saying things that are demonstrably 
untrue. 
 And the American people have a right to know that.
 
 Now, no matter what side of the political spectrum you are on, it 
is 
 plain as daylight that you could take out Rudy and insert Hillary.
 To think that these two are the front runners to succeed our 
president 
 is mind boggling. That these two can not utter the truth no matter 
what 
 is maddening.
 They will say whatever they have to in order to win the presidency. 
But 
 that is not the issue. The issue is that nobody seems to care. 
Let 'em 
 lie, let 'em cheat, let 'em steal.
 It's as if that has become the American Way. In the wake of  Bush 
and 
 Clinton, somebody needs to rise above this bullshit that is 
suffocating 
 The American Way of Life.
 
 The 2 key issues facing our nation are terrorism and corruption. 
The war 
 being waged by the DOD against terrorism is so rife with corruption 
that 
 America stands no chance on winning either battle. That not one 
 candidate, from the locals to the nationals is standing up to this 
 challenge is evidence that we are in deep shit, er, make that deep 
 bullshit.





 
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