[AsburyPark] Re: Little League

2007-12-16 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
   Although I do not speak for the Board, there have been so many
 phony arguments and monkey wrenches thrown into this issue that it is
 sickening.  The state monitor also does not speak for the board,
 although he has veto power over what the board does, acording to
 Commssioner Lucille Davy.  But first THE BOARD HAS TO DO IT!  He does
 not have the power of prior restraint.  He is in essence the viceroy
 of the Commissioner of Education and ultimately the governor, but
 until the BOE is removed we are still the elected officials here. 
 

Frank I'll get off me soapbox now D'Alessandro

 you are not on a soapbox you are one of the few, making any sense of 
this issue, keep  up the heat, turn it up a notch, wake up the other 
knuckleheads, what happened to the idea of petitions being presented at 
the next bd. meeting? 



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Little League

2007-12-16 Thread Allan Peterson
Sound to me the Board is the problem.  As you mentioned here the Board has to 
take the first step.  Rather than placing blame maybe this is where they can 
start.  Why is the state official here to begin with?  Possibly from over 
spending, poor results etc.  Again with all the money this school system takes 
in, why are these kids playing in such poor conditions?  I am not pointing out 
any one person, and sadly they continue to get elected.  But I believe if the 
residents were paying for the schools via property taxes, there would be change 
due to discontent.  Since the state is funding, I guess that is why they are 
here.


- Original Message 
From: asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:48:52 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Little League

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ ...
wrote:

 It is amazing to me that something that seems to have always been so 
 broadly supported by the people of this city (who usually never agree 
 on anything) is being scuttled by an attorney and a monitor who don't 
 live here. Aren't there so much more important issues that the 
 school board attorney and monitor should be focused on - like the 
 fact that we are still paying Dr. Lewis or the fact that the school 
 performance needs tremendous improvements? That's what the monitor 
 was brought in to fix - not this. Are the real problems just too 
 hard? Is that why the monitor has chosen to focus here instead - to 
 justify their existence without having to tackle the real and hard 
 issues? 
 
 This is just another bad joke on the people of Asbury Park. We can 
 never seem to help ourselves, but clearly those who are supposed to 
 help from outside can't or won't either. Stopping the Little League 
 isn't helping anyone.
 

Do I have your permission to read your statement at the BOE
meeting next Wednesday? Anyone else also who would like their
statement of support for the Little League read into the record, I
would be happy to do so. 

Although I do not speak for the Board, there have been so many
phony arguments and monkey wrenches thrown into this issue that it is
sickening. The state monitor also does not speak for the board,
although he has veto power over what the board does, acording to
Commssioner Lucille Davy. But first THE BOARD HAS TO DO IT! He does
not have the power of prior restraint. He is in essence the viceroy
of the Commissioner of Education and ultimately the governor, but
until the BOE is removed we are still the elected officials here. 

What this man is doing is disenfranchising the voters of Asbury
Park, and in his zeal, to put it charitably, he is reaching back
even to the bond issue of 1997, which promised a refurbished little
league field where it is now as part of the two million dollars voted
on by the citizens of Asbury Park. He is indeed a miracle man who is
not only bringing together people who have not been able to work
together for years, but is changing the past as well. The people of
Asbury Park voted for the Little League Field to be there, and that's
where it should remain. 

We do indeed need a first class facility as well at the
Intermediate School. These kids have been playing on a disgusting
moonscape there, much to the shame of the BOE and the people
responsible for maintaining that field. But do not let the state
monitor/viceroy/ czar confuse the issue. Do not let the perfect be the
enemy of the good. In time we can and must have decent facilities at
both sites. But now it's the long-suffering Little League's turn to
get the improvements at the present field that they have worked so
hard to pay for and work towards. 

A man who has been here five minutes, forces us to pay him a
ridiculous amount of money ($600 a day plus expenses five days a week,
52 weeks a year, all while he continues to pull down a hefty pension)
to put forth edicts like some potentate out of Zanadu could better
spend his time and our money helping to solve problems that are really
problems; and we have enough of those to keep anyone busy for a
lifetime. 

Frank I'll get off me soapbox now D'Alessandro





  

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[AsburyPark] Re: Little League

2007-12-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But I believe if the residents were paying for the schools via
property taxes, there would be change due to discontent.  Since the
state is funding, I guess that is why they are here.
 


That's what I've been saying.

The whole city has more history.

They DO need a city historian.

Acity corruption historian.

It's already well documented.

Amazing with all the money pissed away, you cant have a couple patches
of grass to play ball on. I'll buy the grass seed. 

YOu know what, in addition to what's been raised for THIS project -
whyh should it have to be raised at all? Why should it be? It should
be funded from the BOE, the the city. Grass seed, sprinklers, clay and
lime.

How much was stolen in years past on the variuos stadium projects? How
much?

It's pretty nice you get people to donate big chunks of $ to do
something that the state already paid for.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...

2007-12-16 Thread 2fine4u
Isn't it ironic?  Tom was terriffic, back when the Mets were Amazin',
the Yankees had Mister October, Reggie Jackson and other superstars,
who were wiry, rather than buffed up!  I met Daryl Strawberry, while
I was at a luncheon, last year and he's still wiry, can probably still
hit a bat, has a winning personality, gave me his autograph, because I
gave him words of encouragement and told him to get his act
together, because I believed in him, as do so many others!  I gave him
my Mama speech, the kind, older Black elders, are prone to do, when
they love someone.

I loved Thurmon Munson, tragically killed and I loved it, when
Baseball was just a game, my boys played over in Neptune, in the Pony
Leagues at the SAME ballfields, on Jumping Brook Road and Old Corlies
ave.  They looked like 2 little bobble-heads, in their uniforms!  I
began getting my tan in March, when the season opened.  My youngest
son, played Babe Ruth, until he entered Glassboro, now Rowan.  I now
follow Legion Baseball and was at the All-Star Game at Monmouth
University, back in the summer.  I was thrilled to be amongst kids
from Monmouth County playing against Ocean County.  Not caring who
won, but the sportsmanship being taught that day.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote:
 
  It also seems to me, that they beat the hell out of Barry Bonds, 
 while
  overlooking Andy Pettit, the Rocket, who injected his, into his
  buttocks  and others.  
 
 You are correct Sharon.  Clemens in particular should be treated 
 exactly as Bonds.  Bonds is the most dominant post world war II 
 hitter, ditto for Clemens as pitcher.
 
 Both would have made it to the HOF without juice.  Both has that 
 tell tall sign of juicing by having their numbers get better in 
 their late 30's and early 40's.  Both are blowing the hell out of 
 everyone else's records, unfairly.
 
 The Olympic governing body does it right - they stripped Marion 
 Jones.  If baseball were as pure then Bonds, Clemens, Pettitte. 
 Tejada, etc.  would all have their rings and records stripped.
 
 Hitters and Pitchers?  Hammerin' Hank and Tom Terrific are still my 
 heroes.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: As if life weren't depressing enough...

2007-12-16 Thread oakdorf
--- 

To Seaver and his #41

I went to a couple opening days with Seaver pitching.

It wss almost an automatic W.

For his combined career - Seaver's record on opening day was 7-2.





 
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[AsburyPark] So with all due respect, what part of that didn't you understand

2007-12-16 Thread Mario

Media Vote Tuesday. Polarizing Journalists. Racial Politics.

Friday's program repeats tonight at 7 on 13.


Massing of the Media
So if the F-C-C is here wanting to know if residents are being well
served? The answer is no. If local talent is being covered? The answer
is no. If community issues are being treated sensitively? The answer is
no. If minority groups are getting the coverage and the input they need?
The answer is no, the answer is no. 

So with all due respect, I ask you, what part of that didn't you
understand?

Watch http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12142007/watch2.html  Transcript
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12142007/transcript2.html

Ronald Walters
The director of the African American Leadership Center at the University
of Maryland on how race is playing out in the campaign.
Watch http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12142007/watch3.html  Transcript
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12142007/transcript3.html

Keith Olbermann answer Questions:

When you a sportscaster you never took sides between the teams on the
field. But a lot of people think you've taken sides now with the
progressive or liberal story. Should journalists take sides when
everybody else is polarized? You don't just give the scores. You have
some strong things to say about politics. You've started a new feature
that goes beyond just skepticism. You're doing it every night.

How does Mr. Olbermann differentiate his ad hominem attacks from those
we see on the other side?
Watch http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12142007/watch.html  Transcript
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12142007/transcript1.html

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/archives/index.html
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/archives/index.html



Re: [AsburyPark] So with all due respect, what part of that didn't you understand

2007-12-16 Thread Mike Hemeon
Kevin Martin, Chair of the FCC is proposing to re-regulate radio and TV. So 
what that means is more of that canned public service and religious programming 
on Sunday mornings when no one is listening the way it was in the good old 
days. That didn't provide anything you described either.
   
  Another proposal they plan on bringing back is Minority Tax Certificates. If 
you sell a broadcast facility to a minority group you get a certificate, as a 
seller, that will reduce your capital gains obligation to the IRS. They did 
away with these during deregulation.
   


Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Media Vote Tuesday. Polarizing Journalists. Racial Politics.
  Friday's program repeats tonight at 7 on 13.
  
Massing of the Media 
So if the F-C-C is here wanting to know if residents are being well served? 
The answer is no. If local talent is being covered? The answer is no. If 
community issues are being treated sensitively? The answer is no. If minority 
groups are getting the coverage and the input they need? The answer is no, the 
answer is no. 
  So with all due respect, I ask you, what part of that didn't you understand?
  Watch Transcript 

Ronald Walters
The director of the African American Leadership Center at the University of 
Maryland on how race is playing out in the campaign. 
Watch Transcript 
  Keith Olbermann answer Questions:
  When you a sportscaster you never took sides between the teams on the field. 
But a lot of people think you've taken sides now with the progressive or 
liberal story. Should journalists take sides when everybody else is polarized? 
You don't just give the scores. You have some strong things to say about 
politics. You've started a new feature that goes beyond just skepticism. You're 
doing it every night. 
  How does Mr. Olbermann differentiate his ad hominem attacks from those we 
see on the other side? 
Watch Transcript 
  http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/archives/index.html
  

 

   
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Re: [AsburyPark] So with all due respect, what part of that didn't you under...

2007-12-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
In a message dated 12/16/2007 7:50:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kevin  Martin, Chair of the FCC is proposing to re-regulate radio and TV.  


According to all news outlets I seen, Martin is calling for a vote on  
Tuesday which would further deregulate   -- allowing  for newspaper/broadcast 
cross-ownership which would allow a few  companies to swallow up more local 
media 
in hundreds of cities and towns.  (Yahoo)



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