[AsburyPark] Re: This weekend's pictures

2008-07-26 Thread New Beetoap
This is what I dont get. Why does everyone (almost everyone) measure 
things by 'its better then it was' when there are obvious problems 
with whats being done?

Seems that anything is accepted and saying that its bad or could be 
better gets you flagged as not going along with the project. I didnt 
see how bad it was so am looking at things as what they are not 
what they were.

Guess thats the problem with being in Asbury a long time you lose 
sight of what good work and design are supposed to look like. Very 
strange considering the minority opinion, if paid attention to, would 
make Asbury much better.


 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 like i said 50/50 so far... theyre better than what was there, but 
 the architecture is very very subpar. i appreciate the shops and 
 stores much more than the buildings. and the 5th ave pavilions 
 appearance saddens me.






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[AsburyPark] Re: This weekend's pictures

2008-07-26 Thread New Beetoap
From what I have seen in other places the common thread is that they 
are developers, not good neighbors. The best developments are when 
the local community keeps a tight leash (control) on whats being done.

There have been many comments here about accountability and process. 
Its quite a long mess in the making from what I gather in reading the 
old posts.

I was not prepared to be so disappointed when finally visiting. I 
thought everything was done and done well after all these years. I 
still dont understand how some can say its only been a year or so. 
The record here says otherwise.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's not forget that point that MM chose not to be good neighbors 
to the Empress with 
 the 1st Ave pavilion also. They've pretty much destroyed the view 
of all the ocean side 
 rooms now. This could've been totally avoided if they chose to 
build up one of the other 
 pavilions in the same way, such as the one they are needlessly 
occupying.





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[AsburyPark] Re: A/Cs other Storage on Bandshell

2008-07-26 Thread njshoregirlap
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not yet:  Next week, so I'm shutting down most of the email I get.
 Will only have use of my left hand, afterward!  Going to the bathroom
 will be awkward! :-)  That's what they make baby wipes for!  Should
 I buy some Depends?  Showers only and I use a whirlpool!  Normally I
 shampoo my hair daily, so I'll be a little sour, unless I dip my head
 under a running faucet.  I'll improvise!
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal restore881FM@ wrote:
 
  Sharon -
  Didn't you have the hand surgery?
  I didn't email you back, because you sent that email out.
  How are you?
  Maureen
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ 
  wrote:
  
   You must mean City Council/City Fathers, as there are NO women on 
  the
   Council, now.  What are we, chopped liver?  This group has been
   watch-dogging the City for years, not just day before yesterday!  
  I've
   seen/read several old subjects from newbies crop up in the last 
  few
   days, like yeah, right, been there, done that already, twice!  Sorry
   you missed the band shell comments, Maureen.  I could see the AC's
   from the driveway of the Empress, when Glenn was here, for the July
   4th weekend.
   
   I didn't appreciate seeing the Boardwalk and Beach being used as 
  some
   sort of exclusive venue for ANY group!  The language was repulsive
   on the movie portion.  We're all adult here, so it wasn't anything I
   hadn't heard before, so I won't go prude on you.
   
   Funny what you can get in this town, if you're a favored group! 
   Just an observation, so no flames please!
  

Sharon, good luck with your recovery from hand surgery. While I
haven't had that sort of problem, I'm hobbling through the summer on
one foot. I'm having a series of foot surgeries, one foot at a time,
so my movement is restricted---can't enjoy the beach as much as I'd
like, so if you see a lady with one blue surgical shoe...that's me! Ha
Ha.  Good luck with your recovery!!!




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[AsburyPark] Re: This weekend's pictures

2008-07-26 Thread njshoregirlap
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap
 wonderwomanator@ wrote:
 
  Thanks for the support sandpiper! Just to clarify, I mentioned the
  more urban examples of container shops to show contrast, which you
  understood!  I read another post by a member who couldn't take a photo
  next to Madame Marie's due to the godawful container smack up against
  the side of Madam Marie's.  Let's respect what we have and give
  careful consideration when adding structures to the streetscape!
  A little architectural integrity PLEASE!!!
 
 ===
 
 You're barking up the wrong tree, pissing in the wind, etc, etc
 
 I've been at this for decades, Asbury Park is seriously dysfunctional
 and the simplest of obvious things are impossible.
 
 Werner

Werner, I respect your experience, and perserverence in the face of
strong opposition.  I know quite well that I'm pissing in the wind,
but some things just stick out so blatantly that even a tired old
warrior like myself can't contain herself and has to put her 2 cents
in.  I know I'm basically preaching to a small choir, but there are a
few newbies who may be converted.  I get irritated when I read all the
everything is wonderful posts, when some of these posters don't know
the history of the architecture of AP.  Sure, it is great that there
is foot traffic on the boards, and life is coming back to a dead
space.  But at what price.  Europeans value their architectural
history.  There were real opportunities for funding from the National
Trust for Historic Preservation, etc which could have played a large
role in preserving and restoring the remaining structures of old
Asbury grandeur, but it was not to be.  All that can be done now is
try to reach out to new people and attempt to open their eyes and
hearts..  Alas, the powers that be will do what they will as they
always have.  And those of us will spit in the wind and hope the wind
changes direction when we do spit!! LOL




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[AsburyPark] Re: This weekend's pictures

2008-07-26 Thread Jack Pitzer
I've said many times that the look that should've been brought back was the 
look that can 
be found on the inside covers of Helen Pikes book, from a time period when 
there was a 
foot traffic jam on the boardwalk just like the traffic jams I encounter every 
morning on 
my way to work.
I will always say it looks better then it has in the past few decades.
I realize they aren't done.
But, we aren't talking about building a whole city.
It's taken in incredibly long time to get anything done here, and given that 
amount of 
time, it should've finally been done right.
Shipping containers and mall like architecture is wrong for our boardwalk in my 
opinion.
I've tried to look at it from every different angle, and for me, it's easy to 
see the difference 
between it looks better and what would've been the right way to do it.
The right way would've been historical preservation.
Instead, history was wiped out and now we have a new starting point, and I 
don't like it.
I'm happy that others do, because I know my opinion places me in the minority.
I'll stick with being in that minority.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap
 wonderwomanator@ wrote:
 
  
 
 the boardwalk buildings are not done. Blanks space on stucco,
 railings, storefronts etc etc etc.
 
 Was a crubmbling 3rd ave pav anything? Never was. Just an ugly
 building - like a dserted strip mall. It replaced a wooden structure
 years ago which may have looked nicer.
 
 The bandshell building. yes, there should be a bandshell there. The
 units on top - granted they added units to handle the heat from the
 pottery and glass blowing place. But having worked in an old
 restaraunt there years and years ago-  there was exhaust fans on the
 roof before - and ac unit etc. somehow it worked.
 
 They haven't finished.
 
 Does it look better then before?
 
 
 Was the structure of the 5th ave building saved?
 
 Take a drive into NYC and see how historic buildings are being adapted
  for today.
 
 No one ever answers - what period of time in AP should be recreated?
 Was it the boardwalk of 1950, 1920 - or the boardwalk of the future. 
 
 Is stucco overdone? Could new brick have been used? how about fake
 cedar siding? how about more glass?
 
 Yes, be thankful somneone took charge of CH and did waht has been
 done. Even in it's prime, you really didn't want a shop in CH because
 beach goers wouldn't go in there. Mainly did biz for events. Today,
 it's used as a center. They pulled it off.
 
 And yes, it's been about 7 months of real activity. 
 
 Old timer or not - it's clean and actually shows sing of improvement
 for lack of a better word. Is it perfect architecture? No.
 
 Go to the boardwalks of AC, Wildwood, Seaside and Point. If you want,
 I'll arrange an 18 tourwe'll play pinball, wack a mole, I'll show
 you how to win on the wheel, cheat at skeeball, eat pizza, steaks
 sanwhiches, waffles and ice cream, porkroll ride a himalays and more.
 Maybe we'll wind up in a casino.
 
 s







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[AsburyPark] Bennett Concert made $62, 436 for Boys Girls Club

2008-07-26 Thread radio881gal
Please take a look at at www.asburyradio.com for more details on this. 
Also, What a Difference Three Days Makes on Kinglsey Ave. We're talkin' 
sidewalks cleaned up big time!
Thanks for checking it out!
Maureen





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[AsburyPark] KETEL ONE AFTER DARK SATURDAY NIGHTS

2008-07-26 Thread Michael W. Brim
The Harrison Restaurant and Bar is featuring

KETEL ONE AFTER DARK SATURDAY NIGHTS and
an exhibit of historical landmarks of Asbury Park,
which have been demolished, is on display!

10PM -- On

Great Music, Great Lighting, Great People!!

$4.00 KETEL ONE Vodka cocktails

$7.00 KETEL ONE Vodka martinis

EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT IN JULY = KETEL ONE

Come and see Lisa and David on Saturday

716 Cookman Avenue, Asbury Park NJ

732-774-2200

THE HARRISSION

AFTER WORK

AFTER DINNER

AFTER DARK


Michael W. Brim
321 Sunset Ave. 5F
Asbury Park NJ 07712
Cell: 732-996-8160



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