[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Asbury seems insanely dysfunctional to me right now. That last APP article that Jack posted tipped me over the edge. WTF is up with this place? Is there anyone competent in charge? I just wish I could understand it. I feel like I have a responsibility to try to, but it just doesn't seem worth it sometimes. === Welcome you have been initiated as many others have been after getting below the surface into the meat of the matter. It certainly is a job trying to keep up with things and sorting the wheat from the chaff. I highly recommend that you read the group archives from the beginning for insight and entertainment. Not that it is a scholarly piece of work but rather as a social record of the participants and real-time events as they unfolded in recent history. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1 History A learning or knowing by inquiry; the knowledge of facts and events, so obtained; hence, a formal statement of such information; a narrative; a description; a written record; as, the history of a patient's case; the history of a legislative bill. A systematic, written account of events, particularly of those affecting a nation, institution, science, or art, and usually connected with a philosophical explanation of their causes; a true story... Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Geez, Gabbi, does everything have to be psycho-analyzed so deeply? My wife isn't a Republican nor does she involve herself with politics. The joke was like any other - on the surface - not a deep political analysis. If you are a local, no wait even if you aren't, and you've read about AP, you know there have been many starts and stops to redevelopment. Like the place is cursed (many jokes have been made about the C-8 site being cursed). So she used irony. The folks running the global market obiously didn't meet in Geneva or somewhere and whisper, Asbury Park is making a comeback - tank the whole world economy! That's what makes it a joke. By the way - the last time AP tried this redevelopment was in the late 80's - the whole American economy tanked in the middle of it, causeing Carabetta to go bankrupt. You are old enough to recall it. That too makes the joke work. I can't believe I had to spend this much time explaining a simple joke to you, while you play Freud and try to find the meaning of life in it. You really are a killjoy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never should have typed it. i was responding to tommy's wifes joke, which i didn't read as a joke. i didn't get it, still don't. but it sounded to me like the whole world is against asbury park and that is the reason for its struggle. not asbury park. the world, the riots, the economy. now the fault is MM. not ap decision makers. so, if asbury were a person (apparently a pretty dysfunctional one) the reason for its dysfunction is the global economy, MM etc, not AP itself. which sounds to me like something an addict would say. it just sounded like someone placing the responsibility for ap's insane drama on everything else but itself. something republicans criticize individuals for all the time. sorry if it offended anyone. Asbury seems insanely dysfunctional to me right now. That last APP article that Jack posted tipped me over the edge. WTF is up with this place? Is there anyone competent in charge? I just wish I could understand it. I feel like I have a responsibility to try to, but it just doesn't seem worth it sometimes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: I didn't understand a word, you said! I just realized, that I don't understand street talk or I'm just naive! Come again? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price Your statement would suggest exactly the opposite of what the article suggests. So what, AP is a scamming drug addict? Nice metaphor - not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Parking: Pro and Con ( some Nostalgia)
For me, the most persuasive comments about parking (on both sides of the issue) are below, following my opining. I grew up hearing over and over again that a major reason for the demise of small town shopping centers was the free and ample parking available at the then-new outdoor malls. I think that received wisdom is now called a meme. And then came the even newer enclosed malls, now referred to by some as Mauls and air-conditioned hell. Nostalgia: Fond memories of being taken by the hand as a kid, especially at Christmas time, to Bloomfield Center, downtown Nutley and Belleville; and Newark where Bamberger's Thanksgiving/Christmas Parade was predominantly Bam's employees before it was gobbled up by Macy's Inc. No promotions for movies, schlock TV, twink idols, or kitschy Disney. Red and Green lighted decorations were draped across our main streets with abandon, and no one worried that some drivers might confuse them with the traffic lights. Sigh. When all that disappeared in NJ, my preference was NYC where you could still brave the elements and experience what remained of the Grand Old Department Stores like B. Altman's where long-time clerks knew their merchandise. (City sidewalks, busy sidewalks, In the air there's a feeling of Christmas, And on every street corner you hear Silver bells, silver bells As the shoppers rush home with their treasures, Hear the snow crunch) But I digress. That was Then, This is Now. So, I'm still weighing the strong points below. As a footnote, I still remember admiring the ad hoc entrepreneurship by Oceanport's property owners near Monmouth Race Track. You could park on their lawns, even flower beds, for a few bucks more or less, depending on how close they were to the main gate. I started to calculate how many cars would fit on my property on my Street of Dreams in Asbury Park. In a message dated 11/17/2008 12:10:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Give people every reason to come to AP. We aren't popular enough yet to start challenging their decision to come with parking meters. In a message dated 11/17/2008 3:20:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I learned a long time ago NEVER to be the lowest bidder. What are you saying about yourself? In a message dated 11/17/2008 11:44:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Let People Pay for parking. a) they pay for food. b) they pay for drinks. c) they tip d) they have a good time e) they feel safe, or they wouldn't come f) they feel they have value for their money **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Some fun from 1935
In Asbury Park, Heavyweight Champion Max Baer, rehearsing for a radio skit while training for his June 13 fight with James J. Braddock, contrived to shoot himself in the chest with a revolver loaded with a blank cartridge. He was hospitalized for powder burns. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Design Center
The new Design Center on Cookman Ave is having their opening gala this Saturday. The invitation arrived this week. Asbury needs to capitalize on the new batch of people who will be discovering or rediscovering Asbury again. I bet they would pay for parking. the ultra modern glass, steel and concrete building houses three floors of state of the art design showrooms, and a design workshop, including conference areas throughout the building allowing designers, architects and specifiers to work with their clients in a truly unique environment. The facility includes an extensive library of over 7,000 fabrics, custom cabinetry displays, fine area rugs, astonishing architectural lighting displays, and an extensive product resource library for virtually every type of interior design project. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs
hmmm... The New York Times Printer Friendly Format Sponsored By November 18, 2008 Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA SAN DIEGO Over the last two years, some of this city's darkest secrets have been dragged into the light city officials with conflicts of interest and hidden pay raises, affordable housing that was not affordable, misleading crime statistics. Investigations ensued. The chiefs of two redevelopment agencies were forced out. One of them faces criminal charges. Yet the main revelations came not from any of San Diego's television and radio stations or its dominant newspaper, The San Diego Union-Tribune, but from a handful of young journalists at a nonprofit Web site run out of a converted military base far from downtown's glass towers a site that did not exist four years ago. As America's newspapers shrink and shed staff, and broadcast news outlets sink in the ratings, a new kind of Web-based news operation has arisen in several cities, forcing the papers to follow the stories they uncover. Here it is VoiceofSanDiego.org, offering a brand of serious, original reporting by professional journalists the province of the traditional media, but at a much lower cost of doing business. Since it began in 2005, similar operations have cropped up in New Haven, the Twin Cities, Seattle, St. Louis and Chicago. More are on the way. Their news coverage and hard-digging investigative reporting stand out in an Internet landscape long dominated by partisan commentary, gossip, vitriol and citizen journalism posted by unpaid amateurs. The fledgling movement has reached a sufficient critical mass, its founders think, so they plan to form an association, angling for national advertising and foundation grants that they could not compete for singly. And hardly a week goes by without a call from journalists around the country seeking advice about starting their own online news outlets. Voice is doing really significant work, driving the agenda on redevelopment and some other areas, putting local politicians and businesses on the hot seat, said Dean Nelson, director of the journalism program at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego. I have them come into my classes, and I introduce them as, `This is the future of journalism.' That is a subject of hot debate among people who closely follow the newspaper industry. Publishing online means operating at half the cost of a comparable printed paper, but online advertising is not robust enough to sustain a newsroom. And so financially, VoiceofSan Diego and its peers mimic public broadcasting, not newspapers. They are nonprofit corporations supported by foundations, wealthy donors, audience contributions and a little advertising. New nonprofits without a specific geographic focus also have sprung up to fill other niches, like ProPublica, devoted to investigative journalism, and the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, which looks into problems around the world. A similar group, the Center for Investigative Reporting, dates back three decades. But some experts question whether a large part of the news business can survive on what is essentially charity, and whether it is wise to lean too heavily on the whims of a few moneyed benefactors. These are some of the big questions about the future of the business, said Robert H. Giles, curator of the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard. Nonprofit news online has to be explored and experimented with, but it has to overcome the hurdle of proving it can support a big news staff. Even the most well-funded of these sites are a far cry in resources from a city newspaper. The people who run the local news sites see themselves as one future among many, and they have a complex relationship with traditional media. The say that the deterioration of those media has created an opening for new sources of news, as well as a surplus of unemployed journalists for them to hire. No one here welcomes the decline of newspapers, said Andrew Donohue, one of two executive editors at VoiceofSanDiego. We can't be the main news source for this city, not for the foreseeable future. We only have 11 people. Those people are almost all young, some of them refugees from older media. The executive editors, Mr. Donohue, 30, and Scott Lewis, 32, each had a few years of experience at small papers before abandoning newsprint. So far, their audience is tiny, about 18,000 monthly unique visitors, according to Quantcast, a media measurement service. The biggest of the new nonprofit news sites, MinnPost in the Twin Cities and the St. Louis Beacon, can top 200,000 visitors in a month, but even that is a fraction of the Internet readership for the local newspapers. VoiceofSanDiego's site looks much like any newspaper's, frequently updated with breaking news and organized around broad topics: government and politics, housing, economics, the environment, schools and science. It has few graphics, but plenty of
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Tommy...i admit i didn't get the joke. and as far as psychoanalyzing...we've all got psyches and they pretty much drive all of our actions. and they are endlessly fascinating. like, why does tommy take everything so personal and yet claim to never personalize? you referred to me as mary magdalene twice. to lots of people you essentially called me a whore. i don't give a shit, but you would. that's interesting. and BTW in psycho babble its called projection. you are a perfect study of it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, Gabbi, does everything have to be psycho-analyzed so deeply? My wife isn't a Republican nor does she involve herself with politics. The joke was like any other - on the surface - not a deep political analysis. If you are a local, no wait even if you aren't, and you've read about AP, you know there have been many starts and stops to redevelopment. Like the place is cursed (many jokes have been made about the C-8 site being cursed). So she used irony. The folks running the global market obiously didn't meet in Geneva or somewhere and whisper, Asbury Park is making a comeback - tank the whole world economy! That's what makes it a joke. By the way - the last time AP tried this redevelopment was in the late 80's - the whole American economy tanked in the middle of it, causeing Carabetta to go bankrupt. You are old enough to recall it. That too makes the joke work. I can't believe I had to spend this much time explaining a simple joke to you, while you play Freud and try to find the meaning of life in it. You really are a killjoy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: i never should have typed it. i was responding to tommy's wifes joke, which i didn't read as a joke. i didn't get it, still don't. but it sounded to me like the whole world is against asbury park and that is the reason for its struggle. not asbury park. the world, the riots, the economy. now the fault is MM. not ap decision makers. so, if asbury were a person (apparently a pretty dysfunctional one) the reason for its dysfunction is the global economy, MM etc, not AP itself. which sounds to me like something an addict would say. it just sounded like someone placing the responsibility for ap's insane drama on everything else but itself. something republicans criticize individuals for all the time. sorry if it offended anyone. Asbury seems insanely dysfunctional to me right now. That last APP article that Jack posted tipped me over the edge. WTF is up with this place? Is there anyone competent in charge? I just wish I could understand it. I feel like I have a responsibility to try to, but it just doesn't seem worth it sometimes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: I didn't understand a word, you said! I just realized, that I don't understand street talk or I'm just naive! Come again? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price Your statement would suggest exactly the opposite of what the article suggests. So what, AP is a scamming drug addict? Nice metaphor - not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Mary M wasn't a prostitute. I'm not going to argue religion with you either. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy...i admit i didn't get the joke. and as far as psychoanalyzing...we've all got psyches and they pretty much drive all of our actions. and they are endlessly fascinating. like, why does tommy take everything so personal and yet claim to never personalize? you referred to me as mary magdalene twice. to lots of people you essentially called me a whore. i don't give a shit, but you would. that's interesting. and BTW in psycho babble its called projection. you are a perfect study of it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Geez, Gabbi, does everything have to be psycho-analyzed so deeply? My wife isn't a Republican nor does she involve herself with politics. The joke was like any other - on the surface - not a deep political analysis. If you are a local, no wait even if you aren't, and you've read about AP, you know there have been many starts and stops to redevelopment. Like the place is cursed (many jokes have been made about the C-8 site being cursed). So she used irony. The folks running the global market obiously didn't meet in Geneva or somewhere and whisper, Asbury Park is making a comeback - tank the whole world economy! That's what makes it a joke. By the way - the last time AP tried this redevelopment was in the late 80's - the whole American economy tanked in the middle of it, causeing Carabetta to go bankrupt. You are old enough to recall it. That too makes the joke work. I can't believe I had to spend this much time explaining a simple joke to you, while you play Freud and try to find the meaning of life in it. You really are a killjoy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: i never should have typed it. i was responding to tommy's wifes joke, which i didn't read as a joke. i didn't get it, still don't. but it sounded to me like the whole world is against asbury park and that is the reason for its struggle. not asbury park. the world, the riots, the economy. now the fault is MM. not ap decision makers. so, if asbury were a person (apparently a pretty dysfunctional one) the reason for its dysfunction is the global economy, MM etc, not AP itself. which sounds to me like something an addict would say. it just sounded like someone placing the responsibility for ap's insane drama on everything else but itself. something republicans criticize individuals for all the time. sorry if it offended anyone. Asbury seems insanely dysfunctional to me right now. That last APP article that Jack posted tipped me over the edge. WTF is up with this place? Is there anyone competent in charge? I just wish I could understand it. I feel like I have a responsibility to try to, but it just doesn't seem worth it sometimes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: I didn't understand a word, you said! I just realized, that I don't understand street talk or I'm just naive! Come again? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price Your statement would suggest exactly the opposite of what the article suggests. So what, AP is a scamming drug addict? Nice metaphor - not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs
I actually posted this before i read the whole thing...please read...here are two excerpts the first made me think of ap in particular. and lets be real, nancy shield is NO journalist. neither is carol gorga williams. we live in a community with lots of cash flying around and zero oversight, zero news coverage. Voice is doing really significant work, driving the agenda on redevelopment and some other areas, putting local politicians and businesses on the hot seat, said Dean Nelson, director of the journalism program at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego. I have them come into my classes, and I introduce them as, `This is the future of journalism.' Information is now a public service as much as it's a commodity, he said. It should be thought of the same way as education, health care. It's one of the things you need to operate a civil society, and the market isn't doing it very well. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm... The New York Times Printer Friendly Format Sponsored By November 18, 2008 Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA SAN DIEGO Over the last two years, some of this city's darkest secrets have been dragged into the light city officials with conflicts of interest and hidden pay raises, affordable housing that was not affordable, misleading crime statistics. Investigations ensued. The chiefs of two redevelopment agencies were forced out. One of them faces criminal charges. Yet the main revelations came not from any of San Diego's television and radio stations or its dominant newspaper, The San Diego Union-Tribune, but from a handful of young journalists at a nonprofit Web site run out of a converted military base far from downtown's glass towers a site that did not exist four years ago. As America's newspapers shrink and shed staff, and broadcast news outlets sink in the ratings, a new kind of Web-based news operation has arisen in several cities, forcing the papers to follow the stories they uncover. Here it is VoiceofSanDiego.org, offering a brand of serious, original reporting by professional journalists the province of the traditional media, but at a much lower cost of doing business. Since it began in 2005, similar operations have cropped up in New Haven, the Twin Cities, Seattle, St. Louis and Chicago. More are on the way. Their news coverage and hard-digging investigative reporting stand out in an Internet landscape long dominated by partisan commentary, gossip, vitriol and citizen journalism posted by unpaid amateurs. The fledgling movement has reached a sufficient critical mass, its founders think, so they plan to form an association, angling for national advertising and foundation grants that they could not compete for singly. And hardly a week goes by without a call from journalists around the country seeking advice about starting their own online news outlets. Voice is doing really significant work, driving the agenda on redevelopment and some other areas, putting local politicians and businesses on the hot seat, said Dean Nelson, director of the journalism program at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego. I have them come into my classes, and I introduce them as, `This is the future of journalism.' That is a subject of hot debate among people who closely follow the newspaper industry. Publishing online means operating at half the cost of a comparable printed paper, but online advertising is not robust enough to sustain a newsroom. And so financially, VoiceofSan Diego and its peers mimic public broadcasting, not newspapers. They are nonprofit corporations supported by foundations, wealthy donors, audience contributions and a little advertising. New nonprofits without a specific geographic focus also have sprung up to fill other niches, like ProPublica, devoted to investigative journalism, and the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, which looks into problems around the world. A similar group, the Center for Investigative Reporting, dates back three decades. But some experts question whether a large part of the news business can survive on what is essentially charity, and whether it is wise to lean too heavily on the whims of a few moneyed benefactors. These are some of the big questions about the future of the business, said Robert H. Giles, curator of the Nieman Foundation for Journalism at Harvard. Nonprofit news online has to be explored and experimented with, but it has to overcome the hurdle of proving it can support a big news staff. Even the most well-funded of these sites are a far cry in resources from a city newspaper. The people who run the local news sites see themselves as one future among many, and they have a complex relationship with traditional media. The say that the deterioration of those media has created an opening for new sources of news, as well as a surplus of
[AsburyPark] Re: Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of those independent news sites are well funded special interest run. But, that's the ease of publication / low cost of entry and ability to instantly draw people to your thoughts with good pr and a few more $. Give asburyradio a $1m budget and I bet Maureen would love you or other aspiring journalists and historians etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] We need an AP version....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20081117/bs_bw/0847b4109090693045 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs
In a message dated 11/18/2008 10:58:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lots of those independent news sites are well funded special interest run. But, that's the ease of publication / low cost of entry and ability to instantly draw people to your thoughts with good pr and a few more $. = The IFC channel begins airing its six episode Media Project tonight: http://www.ifc.com/on-ifc/mediaproject/episodes This series brings a fresh, unapologetic perspective on a variety of issues affecting accurate, balanced reporting from leading news outlets. Six half-hour episodes premiere Tuesday, November 18 at 8:00 PM ET. The average American spends 70 percent of their waking day consuming, or exposed to, some form of media, but goes on autopilot when it comes to thinking about the message behind the media, said Evan Shapiro, president of IFC. This series gives viewers a first-hand look at why we should think twice about everything we see, read and hear, and spotlights the importance of being informed, critical media consumers. Uncovering the harmful impact poor news reporting has on people's perceptions of what's going on in the world around them, this series examines alternative viewpoints on mainstream news reports. Each episode looks far beneath the surface of news coverage to expose what is really driving the news media's agendaFeature interviews throughout the series include Tucker Carlson, Valerie Plame and Dan Rather. (I may have to hold my nose for Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson.) ;-) In a message dated 11/18/2008 10:58:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Give asburyradio a $1m budget and I bet Maureen would love you or other aspiring journalists and historians etc. = There's a worthy cause. Start passing the hat. **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] We need an AP version....
In a message dated 11/18/2008 11:52:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20081117/bs_bw/0847b4109090693045_ (http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20081117/bs_bw/0847b4109090693045) == An AP version? No thanks. With a Hollywood clientele, Lewis is the glitziest member of the speculator class that swarmed the market during the boom, figuring it could make a fast buck on any property. The rapid-fire purchases of speculators helped spur housing to unsustainable heights **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: We need an AP version....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == An AP version? No thanks. With a Hollywood clientele, Lewis is the glitziest member of the speculator class that swarmed the market during the boom, figuring it could make a fast buck on any property. The rapid-fire purchases of speculators helped spur housing to unsustainable heights But it happened here... without alot of glamor. I think I read 2005 showed 425,000 speculator purchased homes, last year 40,000. I'm sure those nunmbers are far, far off but does show the guts of the problem. It belongs with all the other get rich shows. I'd call it the Hard work show. It's where you and you're partner (friend (boy/girl), spouse, signifigant other etc...) buy an old house for yourself and learn how to paint and everything else YOURSELF. Where there are no product placements or ads...where you sleep in the kitchen because you have no bedroom floor or ceiling and you don't have the money to finish... where you get stuck on a ladder 20 feet up cause or scared to death with a hammer in your hand... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: We need an AP version....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there's guru Suze Orman. The docu Maxed Out implies that she's got a deal with Fair Isaac Corp. (FICO). Her critics claim she touts FICO scores because of that--despite those scores being unreliable. I dunno. They stepped in the correct pile and actaully believe in what they say or their writers give them... and so do the people who watch them or buy their books. Step one in getting rich Never BUY a get rich book. Go to the library or bookstore and read it. How rich were these get rich advisors or personal wealth advisors BEFORE they started talk taking people's money? Cramer earned money, then made tons more with partnerships, then: 8/21/2007 Thanks to his daily CNBC show Mad Money, Jim Cramer has become the chief cheerleader for the bull market, or what was the bull market until a few weeks ago. Last spring, he was giddily exhorting the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU) toward 15,000, with no troubles in sight. Earlier this month (NOTE @), as the Dow tumbled in the direction of 13,000, he had an on-air meltdown, complete with screaming, sobs and predictions of financial doom -- maybe the AP Yahoo group should go live on cable Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
You two are off the hook! Seems as though this subject is regurgitating again! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Then we need to send our City Mgr. to a NY seminar on how they do that up there. They charge a lot for parking. In NY we know that parking is NEVER free. There is ALWAYS a cost for parking. The city has costs to maintain the streets. Certainly that could be eaten if they could charge more tax to the BW pavilions because they are attracting so many people (to spend money) by free parking. But MM wants to have its cake and eat it too. AP had free parking for years. Few came. We charge for parking and droves show up (except for a few cheapskate lawyers). Go figure. Charge for parking. Less parking becomes available. You have to move here so you can walk to beach instead. We allowed magic to happen to multiply the number of liquor licenses in AP so they could make money. Let us have the parking or pay us to keep it free. And sign a redeveloper's agreement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Dysfunctional? Not just to you, dear. To ALL of us, who love her! I think you are a very intelligent and thoughtful poster, really! You add to the discussion and are genuinely interested in what goes on here. Sorry if I was harsh! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never should have typed it. i was responding to tommy's wifes joke, which i didn't read as a joke. i didn't get it, still don't. but it sounded to me like the whole world is against asbury park and that is the reason for its struggle. not asbury park. the world, the riots, the economy. now the fault is MM. not ap decision makers. so, if asbury were a person (apparently a pretty dysfunctional one) the reason for its dysfunction is the global economy, MM etc, not AP itself. which sounds to me like something an addict would say. it just sounded like someone placing the responsibility for ap's insane drama on everything else but itself. something republicans criticize individuals for all the time. sorry if it offended anyone. Asbury seems insanely dysfunctional to me right now. That last APP article that Jack posted tipped me over the edge. WTF is up with this place? Is there anyone competent in charge? I just wish I could understand it. I feel like I have a responsibility to try to, but it just doesn't seem worth it sometimes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: I didn't understand a word, you said! I just realized, that I don't understand street talk or I'm just naive! Come again? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price Your statement would suggest exactly the opposite of what the article suggests. So what, AP is a scamming drug addict? Nice metaphor - not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
First link said Page Not Found and the other is not the one. Maybe it was a brochure! I could have sworn it was Madison Marquettes Web page. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Werner, not so long ago, I remember a post where there was a link to MM's website showing a fantasy architectural drawing, of what was to come including a fantasy ferris wheel, as though the Palace had morphed onto the boardwalk. try this one: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/palace/palace.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/18/2008 10:12:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mary M wasn't a prostitute. = Are you sure you're Right? Lots of wiggle room remains among the scholars. _CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: St. Mary Magdalen_ (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09761a.htm) Officially Mary of Magdala is not a prostitute. Her story follows the story of the adulteress who is also named Mary in the Bible. Church fathers have done little to clarify the issue but have emphatically stated that Mary of Magdala and the prostitute Mary are not the same. It is what people add to the story over the ages. Like most people confusing Milton's version of Adam and Eve with that in the Bible. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
