[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting
This is what I asked... '...State policies encourage Open Government - thats a fact, not theories of 'boogeymen'. What exactly was the fear (in your mind or the committee's) to having the public witness your deliberations? Since the public was excluded from 'sitting-in' how does that instill confidence in the process? Were minutes taken? Are they available? Why do you think keeping the public out as observers was in the best interests of Asbury Park? Was something confidential discussed? Did you have to sign a confidentiality agreement?...' And your answer is --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: When you look up condescending in the dictionary it has your photo. You spoke as if only you knew things. Duany, Clarke, etc. There were some good things to think about proffered by folks. It was an initial airing of comments. We are looking forward to more. Well - that clears things up, thank you for such a reasoned and relevant response. Werner PS - Yes I am being condescending and sarcastic how about real answers to real questions ? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Duany, Clark, etc..
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: When you look up condescending in the dictionary it has your photo. You spoke as if only you knew things. Duany, Clarke, etc. There were some good things to think about proffered by folks. It was an initial airing of comments. We are looking forward to more. The fact is - I do have experience that is unique and unmatched. Through my research of Asbury Park and decades of public service as both a volunteer and as a City Official. My meetings and discussions with 'Duany, Clark, etc..' gave me a unique insight to the crafting of the Redevelopment Plan. You may not like that, you may be intimidated by that - I dont know - why such an aversion to learning things? I know you were not at those meetings - Neither was anyone else on your committee. In my background as a researcher/scientist - knowledge is respected and sought out. Quality and attention to detail to achieve the best results called for cooperation in spite of personality quirks or eccentricities. Its very unfortunate that those values are lacking in Asbury Park. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: I would love to attend these sort of things, but my employment/mom duties generally prohibit me from doing so. Can you please give more of an overview of what was discussed generally? What are they planning? In general, the proposal involves changes to allowed building heights and types of uses throughout the redevelopment area. Additionally - several specific issues were addressed... the Bradley Cove Townhome project, allowing the Stone Pony to be demolished, and closure of a portion of Cookman Ave, among others. It is my understanding that the proposal will be posted on the City Website. I have the documents if anyone wants them before that. Comments are being accepted by mail and email. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting
Demolish the Stone Pony so they can build it back in the same spot just with a new building? Bc why would they ever want to just demolish one of the best attractions in Asbury??? When I say why I like Asbury, going to see a show at the Pony is usually one of the first positive I list! The townhomes by North Beach? Yes- that is another winning idea! (sarcasm) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: I would love to attend these sort of things, but my employment/mom duties generally prohibit me from doing so. Can you please give more of an overview of what was discussed generally? What are they planning? In general, the proposal involves changes to allowed building heights and types of uses throughout the redevelopment area. Additionally - several specific issues were addressed... the Bradley Cove Townhome project, allowing the Stone Pony to be demolished, and closure of a portion of Cookman Ave, among others. It is my understanding that the proposal will be posted on the City Website. I have the documents if anyone wants them before that. Comments are being accepted by mail and email. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Do you hear what I hear?
Last night between 930 and 10:00 pm I heard a series of... M80s (fireworks)? Gunshots? I though first it was fireworks but then it stopped. If it was gunshots, it was 8-10 of them and I couldn't tell where they were coming from. I don't know what gunshots really sound like well enough to distinguish them from fireworks... Did anyone else hear that??? Nothing on APP yet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting
No - the implication is that the Pony would not be at that location at all - it would be relocated. And the Townhome project is recommended to be killed in favor of a park. There was an attempt to make the meeting a rally against the Townhomes. You should read the proposal. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: Demolish the Stone Pony so they can build it back in the same spot just with a new building? Bc why would they ever want to just demolish one of the best attractions in Asbury??? When I say why I like Asbury, going to see a show at the Pony is usually one of the first positive I list! The townhomes by North Beach? Yes- that is another winning idea! (sarcasm) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: I would love to attend these sort of things, but my employment/mom duties generally prohibit me from doing so. Can you please give more of an overview of what was discussed generally? What are they planning? In general, the proposal involves changes to allowed building heights and types of uses throughout the redevelopment area. Additionally - several specific issues were addressed... the Bradley Cove Townhome project, allowing the Stone Pony to be demolished, and closure of a portion of Cookman Ave, among others. It is my understanding that the proposal will be posted on the City Website. I have the documents if anyone wants them before that. Comments are being accepted by mail and email. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Do you hear what I hear?
I heard them south of 8th, east of main. however, i did not hear police activity afterwards reggie On Sep 18, 2011, at 8:23 AM, fancypaaantz wrote: Last night between 930 and 10:00 pm I heard a series of... M80s (fireworks)? Gunshots? I though first it was fireworks but then it stopped. If it was gunshots, it was 8-10 of them and I couldn't tell where they were coming from. I don't know what gunshots really sound like well enough to distinguish them from fireworks... Did anyone else hear that??? Nothing on APP yet. resolve to sing daily in 2011 http://www.yogabasin.com reg...@yogabasin.com bar: 732.481.4110 mobile: 917.657.4364 im: yoginilingu...@aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day?
for awhile there, wasn't it reversed and there were no fees or they were substantially lowered? I don't remember the specifics (or I never knew) of the case or what year it was. I'd love to reach up on it. In New York City, all the beaches are free (and there *are* beaches at Coney Island and Brighton Beach, among others) that people swim in and boardwalks walked on. Of course, I am a fan of the Asbury Park and surrounding area's beaches and boardwalk. Cathryn. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: you are not alone but that was a long ago fought court battle --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@ wrote: There are no lifeguards on most SC beaches. The few beaches that do have lifeguards are state parks so they require an admission fee. My thought on this has always been that it's great to have the lifeguards and charge a fee, but that residents of that county (or at least that town) should not have to pay. JMHO, Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Iannucci Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:36 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Beach Fees after Labor Day? I don't need the boardwalk (and its overpriced overhyped restaurants) to enjoy the beach,� nor do I need a lifeguard as I am qualified myself. Which leads me to my next question, and maybe I am beating a dead horse here--why does New Jersey continue to put up with beach fees? No other state in the entire country charges for beaches unless they are part of a state park. And every state I know provides lifeguards, beach maintenance, etc. as part of their state budget. In the most densely populated state in the country, there is no excuse for this except poor budgeting. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Do you hear what I hear?
I did not hear any sirens either I am in the same area as you. Let's hope it was fireworks. I debated whether to call the police but I didn't know what I heard or where they were coming from... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Regine Flimlin regineflimlin@... wrote: I heard them south of 8th, east of main. however, i did not hear police activity afterwards reggie On Sep 18, 2011, at 8:23 AM, fancypaaantz wrote: Last night between 930 and 10:00 pm I heard a series of... M80s (fireworks)? Gunshots? I though first it was fireworks but then it stopped. If it was gunshots, it was 8-10 of them and I couldn't tell where they were coming from. I don't know what gunshots really sound like well enough to distinguish them from fireworks... Did anyone else hear that??? Nothing on APP yet. resolve to sing daily in 2011 http://www.yogabasin.com reggie@... bar: 732.481.4110 mobile: 917.657.4364 im: yoginilinguini@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Committee Meeting
The issue, in my opinion is that an outdoor concert venue is incompatible with residential use. Thus, I believe you have to choose one over the other. Yes there is soundproofing etc, but intense entertainment uses are incompatible with residences. I dont think you can have residences in the ocean blocks along with intense entertainment uses. You have to choose. The Stone Pony can stay (the building and be incorporated in a larger development but I think that if you want to develop residences on that block then the outdoor performance stage has to go to the demolished Casino site. How great it would be to have something like the Jones Beach theatre on that site. I only do this for a living. Dont let folks twist what the committee was trying to do. It would have been counterproductive to have public in before hand. Even at the meeting the other night folks were complaining and discussing issues that had nothing to do with what was within the purview or consideration of the committee. Those trying twist have sour grapes. Been here decades and let their properties fall into disrepair and complain about others that try to make improvements. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: Demolish the Stone Pony so they can build it back in the same spot just with a new building? Bc why would they ever want to just demolish one of the best attractions in Asbury??? When I say why I like Asbury, going to see a show at the Pony is usually one of the first positive I list! The townhomes by North Beach? Yes- that is another winning idea! (sarcasm) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: I would love to attend these sort of things, but my employment/mom duties generally prohibit me from doing so. Can you please give more of an overview of what was discussed generally? What are they planning? In general, the proposal involves changes to allowed building heights and types of uses throughout the redevelopment area. Additionally - several specific issues were addressed... the Bradley Cove Townhome project, allowing the Stone Pony to be demolished, and closure of a portion of Cookman Ave, among others. It is my understanding that the proposal will be posted on the City Website. I have the documents if anyone wants them before that. Comments are being accepted by mail and email. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Do you hear what I hear?
I didn't hear anything and I'm round the corner from both of you, I'm going to tell myself it was fireworks as that will help me sleep better. On Sunday, September 18, 2011, fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@yahoo.com wrote: I did not hear any sirens either I am in the same area as you. Let's hope it was fireworks. I debated whether to call the police but I didn't know what I heard or where they were coming from... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Regine Flimlin regineflimlin@... wrote: I heard them south of 8th, east of main. however, i did not hear police activity afterwards reggie On Sep 18, 2011, at 8:23 AM, fancypaaantz wrote: Last night between 930 and 10:00 pm I heard a series of... M80s (fireworks)? Gunshots? I though first it was fireworks but then it stopped. If it was gunshots, it was 8-10 of them and I couldn't tell where they were coming from. I don't know what gunshots really sound like well enough to distinguish them from fireworks... Did anyone else hear that??? Nothing on APP yet. resolve to sing daily in 2011 http://www.yogabasin.com reggie@... bar: 732.481.4110 tel:732.481.4110 mobile: 917.657.4364 tel:917.657.4364 im: yoginilinguini@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
