[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
I have noticed over the years that almost everyone who retires in Asbury Park has 30 years of accumulated sick time. Imagine not using any sick time for 30 years. Asbury Park could probably make millions publishing a book on how to maintain a healthy workforce! **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed over the years that almost everyone who retires in Asbury Park has 30 years of accumulated sick time. Imagine not using any sick time for 30 years. Asbury Park could probably make millions publishing a book on how to maintain a healthy workforce! LOL! Very funny Teddy! I wonder what the union contracts say about what is or isn't a sick day. What if I come in at nine, and leave sick at 10:30? Did I use a sick day? Don't anyone guess at or transpose what happends at your job as the answer. You are going to have to see the contract the City made with Union. Wonder if we are allowed to see those? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
In a message dated 11/16/2008 1:32:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have noticed over the years that almost everyone who retires in Asbury Park has 30 years of accumulated sick time. Imagine not using any sick time for 30 years. Asbury Park could probably make millions publishing a book on how to maintain a healthy workforce! I know of (and helped negotiate a few) carefully drawn contracts where payment at retirement is limited to half of accumulated sick days up to a maximum of X ( around $15,000). To prevent abuse by some who do use their sick days, those contracts also require documentation from a licensed physician whenever more than X days (usually two) are taken consecutively. **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
Outsourcing sucks! Look at the Federal government outsourcing troop support to Black Water, paying them better, arming them better, etc., so the Troops are target practice for Al-Quaida! No, outsourcing is the reason this country is in debt up to it's neck! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a departmental flowchart Soem very good articles about some communities are outsourcing functions - while may appear to be more costly upfront,not so as the contracted employee has been trained and certified in more then one function. As an example, code enforcement or electrical inspector might also do plumbing inspection etc. And I strongly believe tax collections should be done at the county and ideally state level. To me, it's one of most straight fucntions that could be done and a higher/regional level. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all depends. The war is one thing. There are good and outsourcing companies and companies that KNOW how to do it on a project basis. It helps hide expenses, allows for (intentionally or not) discrimination etc. But if a company has a need to be fulfilled outsourcing the work could be the best way to get something done in a short period without having to have one or 10 people looking at the job admiring their work for th next 20 years. Since you were at ATT as an employee you had a gret opportunity to see it all. I was there for 4 years as a contract employee. when you're a contractor, i many cases you're self employeed - no benefits, unless you went through a consulting house who may or may not pay the bennys. SO when you really are sick, you don'yt get paid unless you were able to bill anyway. Took a vacation - u really have to learn to enjoy it, because you lay there thinking I can be doing nothing at work and be getting paid So for consultants, lawyers, real estate agents, writers, plumbers etc anyone who is self employed - it's a challenge to understand the state system. The biggest challenge AP and the state has is how are you going to address the growing problem. In this case, it looks like 2.5 times from 07 to 08. But we don't know the details. Ok, everyone prepare you're own home/personal budget and let's all look each other's over... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the Files Section and look for AP.Budget. $FOUR Million in accumulated sick time. Time to start the use it lor lose it if you can or limit amount of carry. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go to the Files Section and look for AP.Budget. $FOUR Million in accumulated sick time. Time to start the use it lor lose it if you can or limit amount of carry. You beat me to it. Just finished going over the budget but that was the first thing that caught my eye. Another is that for certain categories salaries and wages are shown as relatively nominal but then there are several hundreds of thousands of dollars for other expenses. What are those? Also, appears to me that you MAY have a lot of duplicate functions. You have code compliance and then you have construction official categories. Then you have zoning, land use administration, etc. It would appear to me that you would put them and all other related functions under one department (How about REAL PROPERTY) and the have separate functions within the department. They would share resources and support staff in some instances. I suspect this can be done with other functions as well. What's the difference between Economic Development and COmmunity Development? Again, why not ONE department with different functions sharing support staff and resources. Until something like that is done it will be impossible to know exactly how many people you need for each function and where you can cut redundancy. Jim Keady - how about we get a complete list of EVERY city employee by department and function. You can keep their names private but how about a body count for each department with their title and function. That includes EVERYBODY? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
Thank you Tommy and Cassandra. If anyone has any idea to put this in a format that is accessible to non wonks, that would be great. I can do simple data entry. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the Files Section and look for AP.Budget. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Tommy and Cassandra. If anyone has any idea to put this in a format that is accessible to non wonks, that would be great. I can do simple data entry. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go to the Files Section and look for AP.Budget. I am sure the supporting schedules are in excel already and then put into this format. The budget and all supporting schedules (line by line) should be available on the website. But we cannot even keep that updated. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
How about a departmental flowchart Soem very good articles about some communities are outsourcing functions - while may appear to be more costly upfront,not so as the contracted employee has been trained and certified in more then one function. As an example, code enforcement or electrical inspector might also do plumbing inspection etc. And I strongly believe tax collections should be done at the county and ideally state level. To me, it's one of most straight fucntions that could be done and a higher/regional level. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
