[AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just lately?  Firing up is pointless unless you can shed some light
 and 
 offer plausible solutions.
  
 When you had the bully pulpit of a local column, did you shed any 
light?
  
 In the years you wrote for triCityNews, I remember reading (after
popping a  
 Zantac) each week lots of your firing up:
 liberals against candy canes and commencement speakers; challenging
the  
 patriotism of disabled veteran Max Cleland; red-baiting; Kwanzaa;
spitting  at 
 anyone who said happy holidays; Nostalgia Nazis; inflammatory
comments  
 implying assassination threats; rantings against the Press and
Pallone; that  
 sophomoric term dummycrats;  and a host of other wedge issues.
  
 And in that short-lived Coaster column: something about NOW and 
feminists; 
 and something about Obama, because he's black

You forgot the April 2005 issue where I was in his headline and tarred
and feathered as a carpetbagger.






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[AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-06 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You forgot the April 2005 issue where I was in his headline and 
tarred
 and feathered as a carpetbagger.


Not only had you spoke at council meetings about AP, but you wrote 
in the paper and were giving radio interviews, all about that years 
Asbury Park election.

That certainly made a public response to your political claims 
expected.

You also personalized a great deal about people in what you were 
saying.

That prompted me to personalize about you, which I not only 
regretted, but emailed you twice to apologize for that protion of it.

I don't know if you apologized to the folks you personalized about.





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-06 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/6/2008 8:20:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You  forgot the April 2005 issue where I was in his headline and tarred
and  feathered as a carpetbagger.
 

 
Mea maxima culpa.   Too many Outrages to list (Outrage against  the 
Clearwater Festival here, Outrage and Belittlement for those who  objected to 
Vick's 
dogfighting, et al.).  Apparently like the mercurial  Mercutio's curse,  a 
Plague on all our houses. So you're in good  company.
 
But I do remember when you called into Maureen's radio program to ask him a  
question (which he dodged with, I know him. He doesn't like me.)
 
Today, carpetbaggers can have a positive connotation: Many carpetbaggers  
were involved in corrupt financial schemes, but others helped rebuild the  
economy in the South and participated in educational and social reform.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
 
 
 Not only had you spoke at council meetings about AP, but you wrote 
 in the paper and were giving radio interviews, all about that years 
 Asbury Park election.
 
 That certainly made a public response to your political claims 
 expected.
 
 You also personalized a great deal about people in what you were 
 saying.


But I never lied or took words out of context as you did.
 
 That prompted me to personalize about you, which I not only 
 regretted, but emailed you twice to apologize for that protion of it.
 

And I forgave you.

 I don't know if you apologized to the folks you personalized about.


There never was a need to apologize for telling the truth. In the
interim I cut them 20 tons of slack.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-05 Thread justifiedright
Oh thanks for reminding me...

Has Frank Pallone brought that money he promised to the West Side 
Community Center 2 Martin Luther King Birthday's ago?

Did he ever return your email about that Asbury quote?

No on both counts.

Oh I was so wrong to hold him accountable for broken promises to 
Asbury Park.

However will I live with myself that I exposed the lies of Frank 
Pallone?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 12/5/2008 4:05:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Segregation is the issue that's firing me up lately. 
  
 
  
 Just lately?  Firing up is pointless unless you can shed some 
light  and 
 offer plausible solutions.
  
 When you had the bully pulpit of a local column, did you shed any  
light?
  
 In the years you wrote for triCityNews, I remember reading (after 
popping a  
 Zantac) each week lots of your firing up:
 liberals against candy canes and commencement speakers; 
challenging the  
 patriotism of disabled veteran Max Cleland; red-baiting; Kwanzaa; 
spitting  at 
 anyone who said happy holidays; Nostalgia Nazis; inflammatory 
comments  
 implying assassination threats; rantings against the Press and 
Pallone; that  
 sophomoric term dummycrats;  and a host of other wedge issues.
  
 And in that short-lived Coaster column: something about NOW and  
feminists; 
 and something about Obama, because he's black
  
 Mostly, nothing about Asbury Park's real problems nor cool-headed  
 suggestions to solve them:  Fire and heat, no light.
  
 I'll admit I don't know how to solve the de facto segregation 
remaining in  
 parts of this city now.  
  
 But I remember being frustrated and pissed off years ago as I 
watched the  
 exploiters move in to fill the vacuum left by white flight:  
absentee  and slum 
 landlords; poorly staffed and mismanaged urine-smelling homes for  
those 
 dumped here by the state or county; and corrupt officials.
  
 Were you fired up then?
  
 Fortunately, we've turned the corner on those problems:  most of 
the  
 exploiters were driven out and replaced by more earnest types 
moving in.   But I 
 don't know if any of those new residents came from Howell.
  
 Chill.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-05 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/5/2008 9:11:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oh  thanks for reminding me...Has Frank Pallone brought that money he 
promised to  the West Side 
Community Center 2 Martin Luther King Birthday's ago?
Did  he ever return your email about that Asbury quote?

No on both  counts.

Oh I was so wrong to hold him accountable for broken promises  to 
Asbury Park.

However will I live with myself that I exposed the  lies of Frank 
Pallone?
 

 
Yeah, you'll have to live with the fact that for all your exposure of his  
lies (and the quote you invented), the voters ignored you,  apparently  felt 
you had no credibility:
 
Monmouth County
Republican Zimmer beat Lautenberg by 18,282 votes in the senate race
McCain beat Obama by 12,037  votes
 
But in District 6 (mixed countries), Democrat Pallone won an eleventh term  
by beating McLeod by 82,037 votes.
 
You gotta work on that credibility thing.
 
I can live with his not returning my email; I won't be petty.
 
Or maybe I was:  I ignored all of Pallone's calls for campaign  donations and 
volunteering.
All my campaign money and networking went to Obama.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Firing Up for an Outrage of the Week

2008-12-05 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 12/5/2008 9:11:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Oh  thanks for reminding me...Has Frank Pallone brought that money he 
 promised to  the West Side 
 Community Center 2 Martin Luther King Birthday's ago?
 Did  he ever return your email about that Asbury quote?


Asbury and money just don't mix.

First, you need a accountability.

Then a real plan and what to with the money so there is a return
that can be measured.

Giving money for the hell of it or for a photo opp is a waste.

Like holding the developers to a missed pr target date. You can't yell
at someone if you can't yell at yourself first.

Give me money - I have an idea...





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