[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
You and I both know, that Jesus is the reason for the Season! It's what you, I and so many others celebrate. Let's remember that Jesus, the Nazarean, was Jewish, first and his followers, became Christians, be they Roman, Armenian, Coptic or Othodox Catholics, then you have your Luthurans, Presbyterians, Baptists, Episcapalians and any other Christian Faiths, that don't see themselves, as Papists. I had a menorah, until last year, when I gave it and the candles, to a Jewish boy, that works with my daughter, who was delighted, to receive it. It was from Israel. I just wish I had seen his face! It sits at his work station and he is teaching my daughter about the faith. Back in the 90's I came upon a street fair on 12th St., near Washington Square, bought a ton of beautiful things, the 2nd weekend in May, which I gave as Xmas gifts, that year, '96. This kindly old Jewish man, took me into the 12th Street Temple. We corresponded by mail and telephone, until he passed away. See, I see the beauty in everything. I will never forget his kindness. He found, that my name is Sharon Grace; both Hebrew and took to me. I still have his letters. Mario calls me Amazing Grace and I like that, just fine. Just celebrate whatever it is you like. I celebrate all 3, Christmas, Hannukah and Kwanzaa! Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa, to All of You! God Bless! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Dan is right. AP should celebrate Hannukah. And I'd have no problem with that. However, to celebrate Christmas but ditch the name, that's a very different thing than not celebrating it at all. That's a deliberate insult. It's no oversight either. They made a conscious decision to change the name. Imagine the outrage if AP changed the name of another holiday. If we didn't acknowledge Kwanzaa by its name, Hannukah by its name, Gay Pride day by its name, I'd complain with those groups. I don't know why the favor isn't returned. I know I can't do anything about it either. Like I said, probably more than a few private snickers at my expense because it does upset me. Next AP retailer to go broke without my $3,000.00 won't be snickering that day, and neither will I. But I might bring it up to Gilmour. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Director of Good Times, Tom Gilmor said in one of his email blasts that beach bages would be for sale for hoiliday gifts. Not sure what ever happened to that. Maybe the same person who controls the city website also dropped the ball on this. No, they are on sale at public works through Dec 21. Tom also said in today's email blast to Don your gay apparel Isn't that de rigueur already [:D]
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Director of Good Times, Tom Gilmor... He's on my crap list. Got this long email from him today about all the Decemember Holiday events in AP, that was laced with quotes from Christmas songs, even using the word Merry, but he took great pains to make sure nowhere in the whole email was the word Christmas recorded. The same email invites me to a Kwanzaa celebration. I got a separte emial from the AP Chamner of (no)Commerce inviting me to Holiday celebrations. I sent back an email that simply asked What holiday are you speaking of? The response came back one word: Christmas. I then inquired why the event isn't called a Christmas celebration and why does no add say that? I still await a response. Don't need one. That the privately admit the holiday is Christmas but publically won't say it, I know that it is a conscious effort to strike the name. I know all that is meaningless to many here, but it hurts my feelings. Nothing I can do about it either. Except of course the $3,000.00 I drop on Christmas presents every year - well not one penny of my Christian American dollars went to Asbury this year just because of this issue. It won't next year either so long as Gilmour and AP make a conscious effort to insult me. As I'm sure they find if funny that I complain about it but can do nothing about it, but I note there is nothing they can do about my droppoing $3,000 originally intended for AP in stores like Wal-Mart, Costco and Target. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's on my crap list. Got this long email from him today about all the Decemember Holiday events in AP, that was laced with quotes from Christmas songs, even using the word Merry, but he took great pains to make sure nowhere in the whole email was the word Christmas recorded. The same email invites me to a Kwanzaa celebration. Does your business send cards that say Merry Christmas or Happy Holiday to clients? I know mine say the latter as does everyone I get. And I am careful that there are no religious symbols in the cards design. But then again, most of my clients are Jews so if I had to put Happy Hannukah I would.
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
As I'm sure they find if funny that I complain about it but can do nothing about it, but I note there is nothing they can do about my droppoing $3,000 originally intended for AP in stores like Wal- Mart, Costco and Target. Damn, I'm trying to get my desk cleared off. Curious, that $3k you're dropping - COULD any of those items be purchased at shops in AP? If so, are they MORE expensive that then box stores? didn't we go through this the past couple HOLIDAY SEASONS. Celebrate as you wish. Blame it on the lawyers. Happy Hanukkah. Next year, I'll deliver the Latakes and my moms brisket. Yum. I'm even luckier. My wife is a nice Catholic girl. I always tell everyone, I wish I video of the priest's face when my mother-in-law broke the news that I was Jewish... he got over it. Merry Christmas. My kids always thought I screwed up the Christmas lights becuase I didn't have them as a kid. I think we're on year 2 of no lights or tree. The menorah, whcih never got lit either, is back on the shelf. Happy N Year. What'd you buy? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . But then again, most of my clients are Jews so if I had to put Happy Hannukah I would. Dan is right. AP should celebrate Hannukah. Well, at least a guess based on tax records. That's why the Italians always want a Jewish accountant or attorney. ): Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the Italians always want a Jewish accountant or attorney. Nail on the head. My father would not even talk to an attorney if he wasn't Jewish. But how about the poor jewish cop, fireman or santitation guy? Everyone thinks he's a failure. Old stereotypes. Goyum, goyum, gone. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious, that $3k you're dropping - COULD any of those items be purchased at shops in AP? Lots of it. Celebrate as you wish. Ditto - but why then the conscious decision to strike the name when they admit in private email that Christmas is really the holiday? That's insulting to me. Blame it on the lawyers. You must mean ACLU lawyers. They don't scare me. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
Well, maybe Asbury will change that like Walmart did. Last year or the year before they refused to say Christmas, this year it is a part of the slogan. - Original Message From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 2:30:33 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote: The Director of Good Times, Tom Gilmor... He's on my crap list. Got this long email from him today about all the Decemember Holiday events in AP, that was laced with quotes from Christmas songs, even using the word Merry, but he took great pains to make sure nowhere in the whole email was the word Christmas recorded. The same email invites me to a Kwanzaa celebration. I got a separte emial from the AP Chamner of (no)Commerce inviting me to Holiday celebrations. I sent back an email that simply asked What holiday are you speaking of? The response came back one word: Christmas. I then inquired why the event isn't called a Christmas celebration and why does no add say that? I still await a response. Don't need one. That the privately admit the holiday is Christmas but publically won't say it, I know that it is a conscious effort to strike the name. I know all that is meaningless to many here, but it hurts my feelings. Nothing I can do about it either. Except of course the $3,000.00 I drop on Christmas presents every year - well not one penny of my Christian American dollars went to Asbury this year just because of this issue. It won't next year either so long as Gilmour and AP make a conscious effort to insult me. As I'm sure they find if funny that I complain about it but can do nothing about it, but I note there is nothing they can do about my droppoing $3,000 originally intended for AP in stores like Wal-Mart, Costco and Target. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto - but why then the conscious decision to strike the name when they admit in private email that Christmas is really the holiday? That's insulting to me. Why? You want the Christ put back in Christmas? We've passed that rest stop along time ago. Let's just admit that it has become a reason to spend money and goodwill. If eliminating some of its dubious religious origins from it allow more to join in that goodwill, then that's good. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But how about the poor jewish cop, fireman or santitation guy? Everyone thinks he's a failure. Add to that the one trying to sell $800,000+ condos in AP instead of focusing on commercial stuff. You think my mother didn't call me the other day? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Great Stocking Stuffer - AP should market this too
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan is right. AP should celebrate Hannukah. And I'd have no problem with that. However, to celebrate Christmas but ditch the name, that's a very different thing than not celebrating it at all. That's a deliberate insult. It's no oversight either. They made a conscious decision to change the name. Imagine the outrage if AP changed the name of another holiday. If we didn't acknowledge Kwanzaa by its name, Hannukah by its name, Gay Pride day by its name, I'd complain with those groups. I don't know why the favor isn't returned. I know I can't do anything about it either. Like I said, probably more than a few private snickers at my expense because it does upset me. Next AP retailer to go broke without my $3,000.00 won't be snickering that day, and neither will I. But I might bring it up to Gilmour. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
