[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Acquitted

2007-11-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, kerry butch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just received a call that John Hamiliton was acquitted. Can anyone
verify this? I can't help thinking that he was the most vocal oponent
of the waterfront redevekopment plan and was taken down prior to the
adoption of the plan.

He was charged years after the plan was adopted. While I think nothing
happens in a vacuum, I do not see conspiracies everywhere.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Acquitted

2007-11-20 Thread justifiedright
Kerry that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ever floated on this board.

If John is aquitted, then I suspect it is exactly as I called it the 
day he was arrested - he appeared to have been entrapped.  I saw a 
prosecutor from the US attorney's office practically brag about it on 
News 9 (and I called John and alerted him to it).

When the Operation Bid Rig defendants went down, John was such a stand 
out.  Most of the rest were Northern Monmouth Republicans who all knew 
one another and all took actual cash (although as time went by, more 
Monmouth Democrats were arrested).  

John had nothing to do with them and took no cash.  Steffer, it 
appeared, was sent out to look for trouble, and seems to have 
fabricated the trouble himself with John.  That's the gravaman of 
entrapment.

The timing of the trial is excellent for an aquittal.  Not just 
because people have big hearts at Thanksgiving - they are also busy.

To find someone guilty, a jury has to go through the jury charge 
meticulously and make plenty of positve findings.  That takes time.  
For a Not Guilty they don't, so fast verdicts usually means good news 
for a defendant.

The jury got the case at 10:30.  If they are done already, it looks 
good for John.

I hope he wins.

  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, kerry butch kerrymbutch@ wrote:
 
  Just received a call that John Hamiliton was acquitted. Can anyone
 verify this? I can't help thinking that he was the most vocal oponent
 of the waterfront redevekopment plan and was taken down prior to 
the
 adoption of the plan.
 
 He was charged years after the plan was adopted. While I think 
nothing
 happens in a vacuum, I do not see conspiracies everywhere.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Acquitted

2007-11-20 Thread kerrymbutch
John Hamilton was charged with conspiracy. Tommy,what's your take on 
why they entrapped John? 

Kerry



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Acquitted

2007-11-20 Thread justifiedright
Kerry there is no motive. There is no why this happened to John 
Hamilton.  You are still stuck on the idea that someone with an 
ulterior motive was tryng to get to him.

Sometimes good police work goes too far, despite the best of 
intentions.  That's what happened here.  Bid Rig was a huge county-
wide operation that started in 1999.  Hamilton was not an intentional 
target of anyone (except Steffer).

I was very uncomfortable reading about how the FBI sent Duke Steffer 
out to do the investigation himself about who might be willing to take 
a bribe and who might not be.  That just sounds like a license for 
Steffer to set people up.

Considering that Steffer is a lying, cheating felon, certainly I 
believe that guy could go too far.  I think he did with John.

In fact, in political circles around Monmouth, there are many people 
right now privately telling stories how Steffer tried to initiate 
contact with them, or even hand them money, but fortunatly, they 
turned him down.

I don't blame John.  One Sunday I was sitting on my couch watching 
football, and two strangers knocked on my door.  The said they were 
doing a driveway down the street, and offered to seal mine with the 
leftover materials for $80.00.  I let them.

That's probably all that happened with John. Unfortunatly for him, the 
guy at his door was Steffer.









--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, kerrymbutch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 John Hamilton was charged with conspiracy. Tommy,what's your take on 
 why they entrapped John? 
 
 Kerry





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Hamilton Acquitted

2007-11-20 Thread oakdorf

 I don't blame John.  One Sunday I was sitting on my couch watching 
 football, and two strangers knocked on my door.  The said they were 
 doing a driveway down the street, and offered to seal mine with the 
 leftover materials for $80.00.  I let them.

Five years ago, I got my driveway paved as well. Same thing. the left 
over from the house next door. My quoted price was around $1200 for a 
aveg 10 x 125'. To do it right, they had to grade the damn thing. 
Considering it was a common drive with my neighbor and the way I took 
care of it after every rain (scopping up the dirt at the bottom), I 
coudn't go wrong. When they were done (they had to get more tar - as 
there wasnt enough leftover  they wanted to charge me double.





 
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