[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-29 Thread Jack Pitzer
It's one thing to defend something you believe in. What you are doing is 
something entirely 
different. You judge and attack people. And whenever possible, you attacks 
include 
proclaiming that it's all liberals fault and blah blah blah.
What you lack is the ability to be objective, and you also refuse to admit that 
there's 
something wrong with America.
Guess what? This country is a mess right now, and it doesn't look like it's 
going to become 
any better anytime soon, if ever.
I thought of a metaphor this morning that makes me think of you.
In a way, I think the way people drive on the GSP and NJ Turnpike is a little 
glimpse into 
what conservatives have done to America. What do I mean?
Well, conservatives don't want people to be governed. They want America to be a 
free for 
all, where people govern themselves. And on NJ highways, we currently have 
practically no 
enforcement of speed limits, and people drive like crap. They tailgate. They 
are angry. 
They act entitled, as if going 90 mph is their right. This morning, I briefly 
went into the left 
lane, going 80, to get around a text messaging person that was a menace on the 
road. 
And what happens next? Some old guy in an SUV comes up behind me going probably 
90 
mph and starts tailgating. He wants me out of his way, despite the fact that 
there isn't an 
opening for a few more cars. He gives me the finger. He does everything except 
run me 
off the road. Finally, I get into the right lane and this guy floors it past 
me, and gives me a 
look that basically said I want to beat the shit out of you and away he went. 
He had a W 
bumper sticker. I guess he was also upset about my Obama sticker.
So what do I mean by all this?
Here in NJ, our roadways are a mess with out of control drivers who think they 
are entitled 
to their shitty, selfish driving. And here in America, our country is a mess 
because for the 
past 8 years, our president has been asleep at the wheel, and our citizens are 
becoming 
more and more selfish, self centered and disconnected with the meaning of being 
part of a 
once great country. We need government to keep us in line, because just like 
our out of 
control highways, unless there's somebody out there to keep us under control, 
we'll make 
a mess out of everything, because we'll take advantage of the system.
Now the mess that America has become is dragging the rest of the world down 
with it.
And behind the scenes, we have people like you...more interested in your own 
agenda 
then the bigger picture.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote:

 Well when ever you put the country down you will hear from me. You are 
 describing 
yourself. You still haven't told me who it is that is holdin you down. I 
already know it 
yourself.
 If you don't get an education it is no ones fault but your own and the 
 parents of 
dropouts. You don't understand what keeping your eyes on the prize even means. 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@...
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:01:34 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
 
 
 Mario,
 I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
 resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
 Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
 bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
 having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
 Klansman/separatist /bigoted/ segregationists/ skinhead, that make all
 citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
 ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
 of this beloved City.
 
 --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote:
 
  Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were
 never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a
 terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave
 speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE
 STUFF!
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ...
  To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
  
  
  Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
  you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
  segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
  formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
  that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
  yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ states
  rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call
  myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!
  
  --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ...
 wrote:
  
   Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really
  have to get out

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-29 Thread Mike Hemeon
I don't blame all Liberals for anything. I blame liberals for being extremely 
naive and never, ever, ever taking responsiblity for anything! We are where we 
are because Clinton, Barney Frank, and Dodd relaxed the requirements allowing 
anyone to get a mortgage. But the blame goes to Bush how is that? Well he could 
have changed it but then he would be holding someone down!

The same goes with all forms of credit. Why is it nobody is responsible for 
their own actions???  Everyone is a victim. Have you heard anyone say well I 
didn't really read the contract? NOPE! SOMEONE ELSES FAULT NOT MINE!
The American dream is within everyone's reach. You KNOW that is not true. You 
have to make it happen yourself. 

Obama is the first black president and there are people on this list that think 
things are going to change. I don't know about you, but I have always lived 
with a white president and not a friggen one of them did anything for me!

When people make remarks about this country for no reason based upon some 
reverse-red neck philiosphy I won't stand for it. I am damned tired of hearing 
this country is a fascist country that holds people down. Really, really tired 
of hearing it.  If you won't get off you ass an get an education and then have 
the nuts to blame the government or white people I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT! When 
I ask how immigrants, with an education, come into this country and do better 
than those born here there is no explanation. Just rants. Why? 

It is ONLY conservatives that spent more than they could afford and live beyond 
their means not Democrats. Get with it will you.

I only see the big picture and entitlements are not the way to proceed on this. 
Nor is bailing everyone and everything out. 

The country is where it is now because everyone had a good old time the past 10 
to 20 years spending money they didn't have. So the solution is bail them out, 
give them more credit so they can do it again and get further in debt. Do you 
think that will work?  We will eventually become a secondary country to 
countries like China and India that value education, save money, still have 
family values, and have the hunger to succeed that this country lost decades 
ago. These people don't bring mommy and daddy with them for college and job 
interviews. 

Over the next year you will increasingly see the quality of life in this 
country diminish. I am already seeing it. You will see the selections in every 
type of store decrease to almost the point where all they will sell is 
necessities similar to the way things were in the 60's. 

You will see this in your lifetime and what happens in Asbury Park will be the 
least of your worries.








From: Jack Pitzer hing...@yahoo.com
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:34:24 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!


It's one thing to defend something you believe in. What you are doing is 
something entirely 
different. You judge and attack people. And whenever possible, you attacks 
include 
proclaiming that it's all liberals fault and blah blah blah.
What you lack is the ability to be objective, and you also refuse to admit that 
there's 
something wrong with America.
Guess what? This country is a mess right now, and it doesn't look like it's 
going to become 
any better anytime soon, if ever.
I thought of a metaphor this morning that makes me think of you.
In a way, I think the way people drive on the GSP and NJ Turnpike is a little 
glimpse into 
what conservatives have done to America. What do I mean?
Well, conservatives don't want people to be governed. They want America to be a 
free for 
all, where people govern themselves. And on NJ highways, we currently have 
practically no 
enforcement of speed limits, and people drive like crap. They tailgate. They 
are angry. 
They act entitled, as if going 90 mph is their right. This morning, I briefly 
went into the left 
lane, going 80, to get around a text messaging person that was a menace on the 
road. 
And what happens next? Some old guy in an SUV comes up behind me going probably 
90 
mph and starts tailgating. He wants me out of his way, despite the fact that 
there isn't an 
opening for a few more cars. He gives me the finger. He does everything except 
run me 
off the road. Finally, I get into the right lane and this guy floors it past 
me, and gives me a 
look that basically said I want to beat the shit out of you and away he went. 
He had a W 
bumper sticker. I guess he was also upset about my Obama sticker.
So what do I mean by all this?
Here in NJ, our roadways are a mess with out of control drivers who think they 
are entitled 
to their shitty, selfish driving. And here in America, our country is a mess 
because for the 
past 8 years, our president has been asleep at the wheel, and our citizens are 
becoming 
more and more selfish, self centered and disconnected with the meaning of being 
part of a 
once great country. We

[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-29 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... 
wrote:



well you might come across rough, but:

1. Front page of today's press, ...more schools adding mandarian 
chineese... to the foreign language as an option 

So much for spanish. Read the article. 

2. As for what's in stores...they still are/were offering NO INTEREST 
for 6, 12 or 18 months on those giant tvs

3. As for the quality of stuff in stores-many articles about the next 
downgrade in the quality of clothing etc that is offered.

alot of people buy a lot of junk they really just don't need. That 
includes alot of the extra food and drinks, cigs, etc.






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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-29 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 12/29/2008 9:34:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
hing...@yahoo.com writes:

It's one  thing to defend something you believe in. What you are doing is 
something  entirely 
different. ...refuse to admit that there's something wrong...with  America
Guess what? This country is a mess right now, then the bigger  picture.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon  tvnetdude2...@... wrote:

 Well when ever you put the  country down you will hear from me. 
 

 
I confidently trust that the American people will prove  themselves...too 
wise not to detect the false pride or the dangerous ambitions  or the selfish 
schemes which so often hide themselves under that deceptive cry  of mock 
patriotism: Our country, right or wrong! They will not fail to  recognize 
that our 
dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of  this and coming 
generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the  watchword of 
true patriotism
 
Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put  right.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-29 Thread MarioAPNJ
I forgot to include the source:Republican Carl Schurz,  who also said,  
 
The man who in times of popular excitement boldly and unflinchingly  resists 
hot-tempered clamor...and thus exposes himself to the opprobrious  imputation 
of a lack of patriotism or of courage...is at least as good a patriot  as the 
hero of the most daring feat of arms, and a far better one than those  who, 
with an ostentatious pretense of superior patriotism, cry for war before it  is 
needed, especially if then they let others do the fighting.
 
– Carl Schurz, About Patriotism,  Harper’s Weekly, April 16, 1898
 
 
In a message dated 12/30/2008 1:16:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
marioa...@aol.com writes:

I  confidently trust that the American people will prove  themselves...too  
wise not to detect the false pride or the dangerous ambitions  or the  
selfish 
schemes which so often hide themselves under that deceptive  cry  of mock 
patriotism: Our country, right or wrong! They will not  fail to  recognize 
that our 
dignity, our free institutions and the  peace and welfare of  this and coming 
generations of Americans will  be secure only as we cling to the  watchword 
of 
true  patriotism

Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be  put  right.

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[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-28 Thread sharon_b283
Mario,
I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
bigoted rantings!  To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
Klansman/separatist/bigoted/segregationists/skinhead, that make all
citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
of this beloved City.




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote:

 Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were
never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a
terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave
speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE
STUFF!
 
 
 
 
 From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@...
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
 
 
 Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
 you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
 segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
 formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
 that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
 yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ states
 rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call
 myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!
 
 --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ...
wrote:
 
  Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really
 have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
  If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
 charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
  
  The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
 speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
 you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that way?
 Probably not. Not politically correct!
  These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
  
  Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
 talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
  
  
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: Mario MarioAPNJ@ ..
  To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
  
  
  In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
  tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with
reality or
  pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to
reality
  and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40
years
  ago. They are not nor will they ever be again. 
   = = =
  Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' Scottish
  black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that
things are
  not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your sentiments
  was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments such as
  these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English
  and can complete a
  sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe Bush
  should have
  selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented
  the US much
  betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross
  paths with the
  people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will
  see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of whining
  about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks
  are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way
ticket
  is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that most of
  the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the ideals we've
  always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us. 
   = 
   _ _
  From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com
  To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts
  
  More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining
  misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well.
  
  All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month
  before
  he died:
  
  My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what
  was
  missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. ...
  
  Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and
Trent
  Lott to Ken Mehlman.
  
  I guess they all finally realized that Luke added
  
  to Men of Good Will to
  
  And on Earth, Peace
  
  In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-28 Thread Jersey Shore John
To me Conservative means PUTTING EVERYTHING ON PLASTIC AND MAKING  
OTHER PEOPLE PAY THE BILL WHEN IT COMES DUE. Nice work, if you can  
get it.

http://tinyurl.com/7xjl5c

Oh, yeah, that and fraud, visions of monarchy, and a reckless  
disregard for separation of powers.

Closeted homosexual activity in airport bathrooms is on the list  
somewhere, too.


On Dec 28, 2008, at 9:01 AM, sharon_b283 wrote:

 Mario,
 I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
 resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
 Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
 bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
 having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
 Klansman/separatist/bigoted/segregationists/skinhead, that make all
 citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
 ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
 of this beloved City.

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@...  
 wrote:
 
  Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were
 never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a
 terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave
 speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE
 STUFF!
 
 
 
  
  From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@...
  To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
 
 
  Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
  you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
  segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
  formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
  that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
  yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/  
 states
  rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I  
 call
  myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!
 
  --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ...
 wrote:
  
   Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You  
 really
  have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
   If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
  charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
  
   The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
  speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
  you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that  
 way?
  Probably not. Not politically correct!
   These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
  
   Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
  talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
  
  
  
  
  
    _ _ __
   From: Mario MarioAPNJ@ ..
   To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
   Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
  
  
   In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with
 reality or
   pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to
 reality
   and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40
 years
   ago. They are not nor will they ever be again.
    = = =
   Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol'  
 Scottish
   black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that
 things are
   not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your  
 sentiments
   was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments  
 such as
   these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak  
 English
   and can complete a
   sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe  
 Bush
   should have
   selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have  
 represented
   the US much
   betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your  
 families, cross
   paths with the
   people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing  
 you will
   see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of  
 whining
   about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about?  
 Blacks
   are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way
 ticket
   is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that  
 most of
   the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the  
 ideals we've
   always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us.
    = 
    _ _
   From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com
   To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
   Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM
   Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts
  
   More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining
   misanthropes posting here, always

[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-28 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... wrote:

 Mario,
 I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
 resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
 Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
 bigoted rantings!  To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
 having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
 Klansman/separatist/bigoted/segregationists/skinhead, that make all
 citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
 ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
 of this beloved City.


Peace on Earth and Good Will to Men. No apology necessary. Impressive
military service in your family. Ignore the bitter and hate-filled
bastard.





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-28 Thread Mike Hemeon
You aren't talking about me asshole. Do you even have a credit card?





From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@earthlink.net
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:17:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!


To me Conservative means PUTTING EVERYTHING ON PLASTIC AND MAKING 
OTHER PEOPLE PAY THE BILL WHEN IT COMES DUE. Nice work, if you can 
get it.

http://tinyurl. com/7xjl5c

Oh, yeah, that and fraud, visions of monarchy, and a reckless 
disregard for separation of powers.

Closeted homosexual activity in airport bathrooms is on the list 
somewhere, too.

On Dec 28, 2008, at 9:01 AM, sharon_b283 wrote:

 Mario,
 I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
 resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
 Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
 bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
 having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
 Klansman/separatist /bigoted/ segregationists/ skinhead, that make all
 citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
 ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
 of this beloved City.

 --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... 
 wrote:
 
  Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were
 never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a
 terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave
 speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE
 STUFF!
 
 
 
   _ _ __
  From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ...
  To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
 
 
  Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
  you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
  segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
  formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
  that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
  yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ 
 states
  rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I 
 call
  myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!
 
  --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ...
 wrote:
  
   Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You 
 really
  have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
   If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
  charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
  
   The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
  speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
  you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that 
 way?
  Probably not. Not politically correct!
   These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
  
   Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
  talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
  
  
  
  
  
    _ _ __
   From: Mario MarioAPNJ@ ..
   To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
   Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
   Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
  
  
   In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
   tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with
 reality or
   pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to
 reality
   and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40
 years
   ago. They are not nor will they ever be again.
    = = =
   Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' 
 Scottish
   black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that
 things are
   not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your 
 sentiments
   was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments 
 such as
   these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak 
 English
   and can complete a
   sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe 
 Bush
   should have
   selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have 
 represented
   the US much
   betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your 
 families, cross
   paths with the
   people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing 
 you will
   see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of 
 whining
   about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? 
 Blacks
   are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way
 ticket
   is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that 
 most of
   the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the 
 ideals we've
   always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us.
    = 
    _ _
   From: marioa

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-28 Thread Mike Hemeon
Well when ever you put the country down you will hear from me. You are 
describing yourself. You still haven't told me who it is that is holdin you 
down. I already know it yourself.
If you don't get an education it is no ones fault but your own and the parents 
of dropouts. You don't understand what keeping your eyes on the prize 
even means. 





From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@yahoo.com
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:01:34 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!


Mario,
I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this
resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury
Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such
bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for
having become the subject of an apparent wannabe
Klansman/separatist /bigoted/ segregationists/ skinhead, that make all
citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to
ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not
of this beloved City.

--- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote:

 Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were
never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a
terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave
speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE
STUFF!
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ...
 To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
 
 
 Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
 you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
 segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
 formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
 that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
 yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ states
 rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call
 myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!
 
 --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ...
wrote:
 
  Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really
 have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
  If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
 charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
  
  The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
 speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
 you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that way?
 Probably not. Not politically correct!
  These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
  
  Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
 talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
  
  
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: Mario MarioAPNJ@ ..
  To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
  
  
  In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
  tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with
reality or
  pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to
reality
  and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40
years
  ago. They are not nor will they ever be again. 
   = = =
  Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' Scottish
  black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that
things are
  not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your sentiments
  was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments such as
  these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English
  and can complete a
  sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe Bush
  should have
  selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented
  the US much
  betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross
  paths with the
  people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will
  see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of whining
  about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks
  are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way
ticket
  is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that most of
  the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the ideals we've
  always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us. 
   = 
   _ _
  From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com
  To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM
  Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts
  
  More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining
  misanthropes posting here

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-27 Thread Mike Hemeon
Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were never a 
slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a terrific calypso 
dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave speech I can't listen to 
that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE STUFF!




From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@yahoo.com
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!


Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by
segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you,
that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider
yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ states
rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call
myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!

--- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote:

 Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really
have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
 If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
 
 The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that way?
Probably not. Not politically correct!
 These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
 
 Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
 
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Mario marioa...@. ..
 To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
 
 
 In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with reality or
 pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to reality
 and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40 years
 ago. They are not nor will they ever be again. 
  = = =
 Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' Scottish
 black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that things are
 not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your sentiments
 was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments such as
 these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English
 and can complete a
 sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe Bush
 should have
 selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented
 the US much
 betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross
 paths with the
 people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will
 see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of whining
 about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks
 are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket
 is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that most of
 the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the ideals we've
 always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us. 
  = 
  _ _
 From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com
 To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts
 
 More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining
 misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well.
 
 All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month
 before
 he died:
 
 My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what
 was
 missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. ...
 
 Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and Trent
 Lott to Ken Mehlman.
 
 I guess they all finally realized that Luke added
 
 to Men of Good Will to
 
 And on Earth, Peace
 
 In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes:
 
 The unions are the reason Obama is in office you will see how much he
 throws
 thbeir way when he is in office. Don't expect any change he has all
 insiders
 in his administration. He will be a little lighter in the wallet Blago
 got
 caught selling his Senate seat no cut for him.
 
 There was always a lot of crime by those left behind becauee they are
 owed,
 they are entitled. This is true even when the economy is good. Haven't
 read
 anything on this board about those that were left behind that were
 mugging
 people in AP during the black out. The greedy were stung by Madoff. He
 will be
 sorry the people he crossed will kill him.
 
 You don't like Condi Rice because

[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!

2008-12-22 Thread sharon_b283
Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and
you'll know why riots happened!  450 years of slavery, coupled by
segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the
formula.  Apparently, you never studied history!  I guarantee you,
that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do!  If you consider
yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/states
rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal!  I call
myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote:

 Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really
have to get out of AP more this is not the real world.
 If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and
charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't.
 
 The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks
speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way
you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that way?
Probably not. Not politically correct!
 These aren't ESL students we are talking about here.
 
 Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you
talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Mario marioa...@...
 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
 
 
 In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with reality or
 pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to reality
 and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40 years
 ago. They are not nor will they ever be again. 
  = = =
 Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' Scottish
 black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that things are
 not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your sentiments
 was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments such as
 these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English
 and can complete a
 sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe Bush
 should have
 selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented
 the US much
 betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross
 paths with the
 people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will
 see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of whining
 about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks
 are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket
 is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that most of
 the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the ideals we've
 always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us. 
  = 
  _ _
 From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com
 To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM
 Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts
 
 More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining
 misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well.
 
 All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month
 before
 he died:
 
 My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what
 was
 missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. ...
 
 Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and Trent
 Lott to Ken Mehlman.
 
 I guess they all finally realized that Luke added
 
 to Men of Good Will to
 
 And on Earth, Peace
 
 In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes:
 
 The unions are the reason Obama is in office you will see how much he
 throws
 thbeir way when he is in office. Don't expect any change he has all
 insiders
 in his administration. He will be a little lighter in the wallet Blago
 got
 caught selling his Senate seat no cut for him.
 
 There was always a lot of crime by those left behind becauee they are
 owed,
 they are entitled. This is true even when the economy is good. Haven't
 read
 anything on this board about those that were left behind that were
 mugging
 people in AP during the black out. The greedy were stung by Madoff. He
 will be
 sorry the people he crossed will kill him.
 
 You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete
 a
 sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in there. The same is true
 of
 Colin Powell neither of which you can hold a candle. Maybe Bush should
 have
 selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented
 the US much
 better. Maybe Jesse Jackson Jr could have bought the seat like he tried
 to
 do in Chicago.
 
 Yes indeed people elected Obama because of his vast experience after all
 he
 was a communite