Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time

2006-04-08 Thread Allan Peterson



Ed Johnson made a post on the other Asbury board stating that the C-8 date is not final. Hmmm sounds a bit funny to me. Maybe Metro is now worried about this lawsuit?dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dan, hire Jimmy AAron and maybe you could win. Yes, I hear the judges and him were all brought in by the same person. But I wouldn't have him if he paid me.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time

2006-04-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 

Ed Johnson is just playing it safe. 
It's costing Metro Homes alot of money in interest, I doubt very much 
they are scared of a lawsuit, they have millions of dollars already 
invested. I know they have a contact with the demo company for the 
29th.The city should throw a big party with a parade and fireworks.





Ed Johnson made a post on the other Asbury board stating that the C-8 
date is not final.  Hmmm  sounds a bit funny to me.  Maybe Metro is 
now worried about this lawsuit?
 
 dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In 
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
 
  
  Dan, hire Jimmy AAron and maybe you could win.
  
 Yes, I hear the judges and him were all brought in by the same 
person. 
 But I wouldn't have him if he paid me.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time

2006-04-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... I know they have a contact with the demo company for the 
 29th.The city should throw a big party with a parade and fireworks.
 

What is there to be parading about??

The public was promised certain performence, that if the existing 
frame had to come down the site would be limited to the design 
controls of the Plan. No higher than 8 stories

The public was lied to, The Council played a three-card-monte with 
the PLANs no one seems to care. The press is playing this up to be a 
great event, that the huge eyesore is going away. That point may hold 
water, however...

Do they mention that the New building will be twice as big, topping 
out at 16 an 12 stories compared to the single 10 floor tower being 
demolished. Do they mention hat the City received nothing in return 
for the increased building size.

Condo, Condos, everywhere as far as the eye can see... That is hardly 
the restoration or rebirth of Asbury Park. The City is being badly 
remodeled by leaders who have lost control, or never really had 
control of redevelopment.

Even the recent praise for committing to restoration of the 
beachfront buildings is rediculous. It should have been well under 
way by years already.

What a sad place this is where the vast majority have no clue as to 
the realities of this redevelopment and then praise any action taken 
however contrary to the public good and due process.

Werner 






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time

2006-04-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
 
 
Stop crying Werner, didn't you say you wanted more height? You anti 
re-developement guys can have a party too.
 Do you have a permit for those bricks your storing in your back yard 
from 4th. Ave? How many did you take so far 1000, 2000?





... I know they have a contact with the demo company for the 
  29th.The city should throw a big party with a parade and 
fireworks.
  
 
 What is there to be parading about??
 
 The public was promised certain performence, that if the existing 
 frame had to come down the site would be limited to the design 
 controls of the Plan. No higher than 8 stories
 
 The public was lied to, The Council played a three-card-monte with 
 the PLANs no one seems to care. The press is playing this up to be 
a 
 great event, that the huge eyesore is going away. That point may 
hold 
 water, however...
 
 Do they mention that the New building will be twice as big, 
topping 
 out at 16 an 12 stories compared to the single 10 floor tower being 
 demolished. Do they mention hat the City received nothing in return 
 for the increased building size.
 
 Condo, Condos, everywhere as far as the eye can see... That is 
hardly 
 the restoration or rebirth of Asbury Park. The City is being badly 
 remodeled by leaders who have lost control, or never really had 
 control of redevelopment.
 
 Even the recent praise for committing to restoration of the 
 beachfront buildings is rediculous. It should have been well under 
 way by years already.
 
 What a sad place this is where the vast majority have no clue as to 
 the realities of this redevelopment and then praise any action 
taken 
 however contrary to the public good and due process.
 
 Werner







 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time

2006-04-08 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Stop crying Werner, didn't you say you wanted more height? You anti 
 re-developement guys can have a party too.
  Do you have a permit for those bricks your storing in your back yard 
 from 4th. Ave? How many did you take so far 1000, 2000?

How ingorant of you to assert that I or anyone else is 'anti-
redvelopment How do you make that conclusion?

What I have been asking for is to remove the residential density from 
the core area of the oceanfront (between 1st Ave, 5th Ave, Kingsley, 
Ocean). And relocate that density (#of units) to north of the BC Hotel.

That would free up the core of the oceanfront for rezoning back to 
traditional tourism, entertainment, etc, uses. That would  create the 
critical mass of similar uses needed to assure the success of ConHall, 
Pavs, Casino, etc.

Kindly explain how advocating for better land use and City Planning 
is anti-redevelopment. 

Werner

(Mind your own bricks, they were taken with permission and will become 
my driveway.)






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time

2006-04-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Dan, hire Jimmy AAron and maybe you could win.
 
Yes, I hear the judges and him were all brought in by the same person. 
But I wouldn't have him if he paid me.






 
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